The Isle Concept Analysis | Acrocanthosaurus
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Hello everyone, and welcome to another The Isle Concept Analysis! This is a series I will be making for the following weeks where I explore and analyse all the dinosaur concepts that the devs have been releasing since 2020. Today we are going to discuss the Acrocanthosaurus.
Hope you all enjoy the video :)
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
Original 0:26
Asset 1:49
Concept 3:25
Speculation 5:36
Outro 7:20
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I wonder if maybe The Isle Acrocanthosaurus will be more like a Smilodon rather than a modern day Big Cat. It’ll wrestle it’s prey to the ground and once comfortable it’ll clamp it’s jaw on the throat, and once it’s bite is secure they’ll rip backward, using their specialized teeth to rend flesh and rip its victims throat out.
Ouch..
Would be VERY neat, but I Think Acro would be using it to sort of Fishhook it's prey. It's not gunna get super big things with those claws, as unfortunately it didn't have the range of motion to swing its claws OUTWARDS too much. I think Acro however will have VERY High Damage, and now that I mention it, perhaps Spino as well.
I've always had a theory, that Dinosaurs with narrow skull structures had a higher than predicted bite force. Crocodiles and Alligators while having a long skull, have incredible power in those Jaws, thanks to the monstrous muscles that power them. I'm not saying "Acro had a better bite than T-Rex" but there's a possibility that the Carcharodontosaurids and Spinosaurids have a much greater bite force than we think. It all comes down to finding Muscle attachment points, pretty much
Its like a land deino , but instead of grabbing things tenontosaurus size , its things twice its size
Deino should easily be able to grab and drown things almost twice it’s size, too.
@@nikolasdemoulin8093 you serious? That would be unbalanced as heck
@@dinohappen1249 a single stego taking out 3 deinos at once is unbalanced
@@Avoithic 3 deinos losing to one stego is a skill issue. I have seen many videos where people did it with 2 deinos
@@nikolasdemoulin8093 aw hell na. That means deino would be able to grab literally anything and everything to drown it. Thatd be hella unbalanced 🤣
I think acro is very well suited for a role like this, you yourself mentioned that like a bison, acro had very large spines on its back wich were used for keeping the muscular structure in tact, and since those spines go all the way to the animals head, its safe to assume it had a very strong neck and by extension a strong bite.
It could have also acted like a wolf in a pack grabbing and bleeding while also draining stamina but also suffocate if able to get a neck grab
i think a stamina leeching/draining grapple would be cool for acro and enable it to hunt larger prey, i'm just hoping cama and trike are just there for illustration purposes and not a hint at it's balancing.
I agree
It could be possible that a solo acro could take on a Cama or trike but I'd say it be more rare and the acro would have to get the jump on like a suprise attack on either one of em a group of acros in other hand might be able to do it.
Look at how malnourished the cama is. So we can assume a healthy cama will be able to defend itself.
@@brady851 u think the cama was sick? Bc it looked malnourished?
Considering this game’s track record at how it views herbivores…
Sure, they’ve had their times as strongest picks, but those often got nerfed. Granted, some of those were deserved.
But if it was a carnivore? It’ll either get nerfed or, the oft result, get a pass.
Acro is a bleeder but the good clamping to large prey is actually something it is pretty efficient at with its spine but also the structure of its jaw.
I think in the concept art they were trying to show acro will be a damage base or brawler giga
Keep in mind that acro's niche actually fits it pretty well because it's buteforce is in the 17,000 Newton range not too strong but definitely enough to close windpipes
Here's what would work for acro if you ask me.
A sauropod-hunter based apex that is resistant to venom but vulnerable to bleeders. It could also have a chokehold niche similar to big cats, pitbulls, and gila monsters, where it can grapple another player's limbs, body, and throat to suffocate them slowly. They could be vulnerable as a solo predator, especially to smaller predators like utah raptor but are formidable in small groups of 4-5. As said before, it could focus on sauropods like camarasaurus, diplodocus, and apatosaurus, and possibly even ceratopsians.
I really think a chill apex would be really neat, only having to eat large amounts every once in awhile, they can add whatever they want as long as it's not confined to it's ability like Utah is.
(Also is that monster hunter music I smell?)
Another amazing concept analysis. The way you look at them really makes me come Back every time.
I was do excited for this video, once is aw the concept I KNEW you would follow shortly, definitely hit the nail with this one loved it👍🏽
I’d like to point out the fear stricken face the Utahs have whilst on the acros back, it makes me think that he can actually reach them
Awesome video. Hope acro gets what he truly deserves after years of neglet.
Interesting to note that the triceratops in the concept art is lying down, implying that it was sleeping, or more likely, recovering stamina. The acro may not be able to choke out something like a triceratops if both animals are healthy, but taking advantage of a tired animal may allow acro to kill things this large and otherwise dangerous with its ability via punishing poor stamina management.
The balance here is that it's not a quick death, and it would effectively immobilise both animals, leaving the acro itself vulnerable for a herd member to rush to the trike's aid before suffocation. My guess is that it's a powerful move, but only used in opportunistic situations, similar to carno's ram ability.
Dondi described it as a "Choking pin", but I'm hoping that doesn't imply that acro will be throwing things like trike into the dirt. It's a chunky animal and should be using its weight, but only actually 'pinning' below a certain threshold.
I like it but I want it to be a bleeder/brawler like a mid point between rex and giga. Having to use bleed to kill some Dino’s and raw damage to kill other Dino’s
i think acro could be interesting by inflicting bleed that lasts much much longer than any other bleed or maybe make the bleed impossible to heal standing or crouched. making it a true persistence/ambush predator. maybe slow speed (faster than opposing apexs of course) and medium stamina as a means to balance that out with the ability to see blood much easier. this would make it weaker to "hardened" herbivores. just thought that would make it more individualistic when compared to rex or spino n such
Great video!
I still dont get how can 5-6 ton acro with teeth not suited for armored prey take down a 8-11 ton trike
it would be fun if acro bite worked like hyspi jump for example the more u hold on the bite button the bigger the bite will be also it could open its mouth wide like the thylacine
Acro is honestly my fav new dino in evrima. Of course new is used loosely but I like that it finally seems to have a place. Its more laid back style and banger design makes it so appealing to me. I hate apexes as much as the next guy, but acro actually challenges a very specific group of players and I think it has some good potential as long as it doesn't beat up midtiers or get chased down by apexss.
It doesn't have a "banger design" it's obese and disgusting. It's a baffling downgrade considering the old design was actually really good and accurate.
@@troythedeconstructionist1382 boohoo
@@julianbaluda7382 Cope harder. It looks uninspired and hideous.
Acrocanthosaurus concept is pretty generic, but one thing I like another new acro is the model looks pretty banger, but Legacy will always be my favorite
Overall another pretty awesome The Isle Analysis,hope you have a great day
justice for more herbivores!
Literally producing better content than the Isle dev team, thanks for keeping the dream alive.
I love the concept arts that the devs have been making but I love my herbis and I haven't seen a new herbi concept in ages
fr the rooster needs more herbs
in my opinion i think he should be the high-mid teir apex avoider that he is in legacy, but give him some decent stam and trot speed, let his bite be nasty, like the hyena of the apexes and then give him some kind of poison + bleed + decay mechanic, not the same posion like dilo and troodon but you know? also that wide bite really made me consdier him more like how a snake does a wide bite, and or something similar to Indominus Rex from JP/JW series
Good video
Nice, Monster hunter music in the background
Honestly, they are so many other dinosaurs they could've given this to. Acro is meant to be a bleeder. I get they didn't want it to overlap with giga, but I guess this is what's gonna happen when your roster is way too big.
Too many games want their playables to be unique, when many Dinosaurs overlapped into niches. Aside from size and prey, Giga and Acro were nearly the same animal. A specialized Carcharodontosaurid that could take on Sauropods.
An IDEAL Acro to me, is a High Health, SPEEDING BULLET of A bleeding Apex. Acro could have a special Mechanic for a Version of Allo Grapple. It wouldn't last forever, but apply a slight stacking Debuffs to bleeding targets, to slow them down. This means that Acros can use this On Sauropods to bring them to a halt, and prevent Sauropod players from putting themselves in a better environment to defend themselves.
Ooo pokke theme good choice
Oh nice
I feel that the whole suffication playstyle would have been showed better with different dinos rather than trike an cama. At least for the cama just have another acro in the back holding it down, and replace the trike with a pachyrhino. Wouldn't be a bad introduction to pachyrhino either considering it makes sense for pachyrhinos to sometimes fall victim to a single acro. It isn't like para where it isn't even trying to fight back against an allo half it's size.
Acro's concept art definetely falls victim to poor thinking and wacky matchups. The roster creep makes me wonder how the hell brontosaurus, diplodocus, and camarasaurus are gonna play. Brontosaurus may be the bulkier of the trio, with diplo being the ground feeder, more social one, cama being in the middle. But, they're all so damn similar still. If I had to choose one it would be brontosaurus just because it isnt just a shant copy like diplo and cama.
Love this game so much
Suffocator would have better fitted something like a tarbosaurus or zhuchengtyrannus. Also when trike concept art, bronto, styraco, pachyrhino, brachio concept arts we are only getting carnivore ones
Neither of those animals are in the game… so
@@nikolasdemoulin8093 could've easily replaced acro
@@nikolasdemoulin8093 switch Alberto and Acro?
Tarbo been would have been more suited for jaw locking a new mechanic they could’ve added if it was in the game
I don’t agree on the fact a single Acro shouldn’t be able to fight a cama or trike. Leopards barely break 200lbs, and that’s the biggest males. Yet they regularly hunt and kill single handedly, African buffalo. Which are on average 1,400lbs. Ferrets take out hares up to 7lbs heavier than themselves.
Predators tend to be behaviorally evolved to best take down their preferred prey. Whether that be a stork being super precise and able to grab tiny fish, or whether it’s a 350lb tiger taking out a 1,200lb water buffalo. So Acro being like a leopard and grabbing an otherwise much larger animals throat to suffocate them seems very realistic to me.
I don't know where you read about leopards hunting African buffalo, but they do not. At most they would hunt an unprotected calf.
Also, I think it is worth mentioning that comparing modern day animals - mammals especially - to dinosaurs is not the greatest idea, especially when they also had two entirely different niches. Hares are made for running, and while I'm not saying they can't fight back, I think it's safe to say a trike - a slow apex herbivore built to hold it's ground against attackers, would stand more chance against an acro than a hare against a ferret.
And from a gameplay pov, the idea of Acro suffocating larger creatures may sound quite fun, but gameplay wise it would be very frustrating to die to what's essentially a land deino. Though, it looks like the Camara and trike were weakened, so maybe it won't be as bad as it sounds.
It was a wildabeest. the videos still on CZcams of one male leopard killing two full grown wildabeest in a row (Which I was referencing, but wrongly thought it was a buffalo) My bad. Still a 600lb animal vs a 200lb (if huge) animal. Average leopards 150 lbs.
And comparing modern animals to prehistoric animals is not only valid, it’s the only way to know how life interacted in the past.. The same laws of nature apply today as they did back then. 99.9% of the data we have in regards to how dinosaurs would’ve behaved comes from looking at modern animals, both dinosaurs (birds) and mammals as well as reptiles.
Life hasn’t changed very much, contrary to the popular belief that the past was totally alien and unrelated to today and you couldn’t recognize it. This isn’t true, it would’ve been very unique, but also Very familiar. The animals filling the niches and roles have changed, but not the niches themselves nor the behaviors needed to successfully survive in them. There’s a reason animals evolve to have similar body plans when in similar niches.
Animals and behavior can change slightly with varying sizes, obviously. It’s not a 1:1 transfer of a weasel vs a hare with a T-Rex vs a sauropod. But those are simply examples.
But I still fully believe an Acro could grab and shred the throat of a cama. In no way is this sone crazy goofy Harry Potter fantasy scenario where you have to try desperately to suspend disbelief.
In fact that’s almost certainly what the Acro actually did. The high neural spines would almost certainly have been for very strong clumps of muscle which would’ve been very useful in subduing large prey.
Whether real acros actually did this or not isn’t the real point, though. This isn’t 100% historically accurate Dinosaur sim. Otherwise we wouldn’t even have all these animals cohabitating together when most were separated by like 20-80 million years time.
The point I am making is sound. Smaller carnivores regularly kill and eat much larger herbivores. Whether it’s Nile crocodiles drowning a water Buffalo, an orca killing a blue whale calf, a black widow spider catching a moth etc..,
It’s such a common Occurrence in nature.
I appreciate the pokke village music
Acro is Awsome, I really believe it should be made to be more of an apex than anything else
dude... a carcharodontosaurid killing a Triceratops just by it bite... that´is absolutely insane xd its pretty rare
One idea is that Acro need to be clean because the dirtier their teeth a the less bleed the cause
Strugglin down a camara and a trike, i dont know but it looks a bit to op for me, like think about it for a second, camara in the isle is 12tons, trike8.3tons, if a acro can get both of these apex herbivores down like this, it will bring a big balance problem to the game. Acro getting buffed to a point where it can solo apex herbis, or the trike and camara gets nerfed down to much....
to me it seems like this open mouth is an atack that u hold ur button until u get a chance to grab the utha
Probably It will have over average bleed even if it isn't shown in the concept
I still want them to add Carcharodontosaurus, its just a little taller than giga and does more bleed but it would better out-stam
I think acro is taking up rexes spot, it is a very heavy set carcharodontosaurid, telling us that it might take down prey with power instead of bleed or persistence
WAIT ACRO GOT CONCEPT? I swear if they messed my boy up
Update: They fucked it
Ironic, an acro in legacy is one of the few dinos Utahs tend to have a hard time with(bite hit box reaches more backwards and with a tight turn its glitch hit box is insanely hard to dodge) yet here it is seemingly having issues against said species. I'm surprised though considering with how much of a chonk acro is that they didn't give it more art showing what all that chonk is for unless its throat clamp is going to then have the acro use its weight to push it down. The unusually wide acro mouth open could be a 3 call as in legacy its mouth opened wide as hell with the 3 call.
Maybe the issue is that some dinosaurs CANT exist alongside each other cause of niche overlap, Giga and Acro are good examples. If either does anything other than bleed focus, it’s inaccurate, but if they both do bleed, then it’s overused in the game by apexes.
The Thicc Boi
We'll either never see Acro in Evrima or it won't be for another 7 years. It honestly surprises me people take the time to analyze what dinos might be like, knowing how incompetent the developers are.
your final question only has one obvious answer for me and thats yes i love acro especially now that hes chonk and having him use that weight to grapple and bring down large prey then snap the neck i love it although i thought he would have something similar i always thought the devs wouldnt do something like that
An intimidation system would be cool, like if something way larger than you 3 calls at you there could be inverse controls for a second or to for like a “ohfuckiwanttogetawayfromthat”
love everything about it but its model, they could've said it was literally any other larger catch and I would've believed them
I discovered your channel recently, are you Portuguese by any chance? Your accent looks very Portuguese
I think the acro will be a wrestler and fight big herbivores
I feel like it somewhat stole rexes niche in the rex concept you see it using its weight to pin and knock over dinos but still an interesting concept overall.
I just realized they are making another Dino that Utah won't even be able to eat completely and will just kos it like carno
As much as I love the concept arts I can’t feel optimistic about them releasing at all
Just for Ur info acro is NOT a carcharadontosaur anymore it used to be but now it's a class of its own btw
The fucking
Huh
When did that happen
What makes acrocanthosaurus not a carcharodontosaur?
I know that this may be far fetched but Jesus, what if it just snapped that rapscallion on its’ side
I’m happy acros coming in
How is the clenching mechanic even gonna work. It’s either going to be very buggy or very unfun to play against
Yea the art is cool but when its gonna come?
From concept to playable, the average is around 2-3 years
Has the isle devs quit and only the concept art designers are left?
what if the grapel does bleed or the extra large bite does bleed
I sure hope that acro will look in game just like that. The original concept art looks so much worse. In its original concept art it has a way shorter tale and an overall fatter body which makes it look ugly. Meanwhile Acro in this concept art actually looks cool.
Why is it always so loud when you make the "s" sound
this is a very nesh gimig that will be very, VERY easy to fuck up. and we need more herbi concepts
Isn't update 6 supposed to come out this month? Also, no. Birds don't clean croc teeth that's a myth. Crocodiles (and all crocodilomorphs) loose teeth and grow them back infinity.
Shifty is gonna feel like an idiot lol
It's not a myth. It happens.
@@EcoHuron no. The relationship you're thinking of is the Egyptian plover bird. Any photo you can find is photoshopped, the only video of it ever happening was a fake crocodile with bird feed placed between the teeth/around the mouth, and they hasn't ever been an genuinely scientifically recorded account of it happening. Not to mention the two species mentioned rarely over lap in rages and the fact that all the crocodiles ever shown (in doctored images) are in the species in the sizes that they'd be actively hunting them for food. You can't find a genuine video of plovers cleaning croc teeth but I can give you handfuls of videos where crocs actively hunt and kill them even when resting on land.
No real photos
Only video is obviously fake
Never recorded scientifically
Not real unfortunately.
@@attichen4749 huh.. seems like a pretty mainstream misconception. Interesting. I think regardless if its realistic or not it could be an interesting and immersive thing to witness.
@@EcoHuron oh no doubt! My issue is just finding what they could reasonably do considering they should just loose teeth by hunting and eating.
@@attichen4749 I'm sure the developers have some kind of idea for it anyways. Maybe just some buffs? Not sure.