Munich vs Berlin as a Foreigner?
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I decided to head to Berlin and Munich for a special video, either wondered why foreigners decided to move to Berlin over Munich well this one was amazingly good. Over 13 countries.
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I was dying when he said that 🤣
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Well, in such a politically correct and censored country as Germany, you really need to think twice before you put the words into your mouth... Berlin or Munich, it doesn't matter. Both cities have no freedom of speech at all!!
@@Nieczynny What's your source on that, have you been there?
@@SNWWRNNGOh, he will just moan that he is not allowed to deny the Holocaust.
@n-Australia If your idea of free speech is that no one questions your words, then yes, that is actually quite unusual in Germany. But that has nothing to do with limiting free speech. To be precise, that _is_ free speech.
A small town just outside of Munich, my personal slice of heaven. I will die in these hills.
Grew up south of Munich but I couldn’t afford living there anymore.
Wunderbar, wo lebst du denn? sich persönlich lebe westlich von München in einer ca. 40.000~ Stadt und brauche nach München nur maximal 1 Stunde. So lebt es sich perfekt mMn. München ist zu teuer zum leben aber für alle möglichen Veranstaltungen und Bildung/Arbeit nach München reinzufahren ist angenehm genug. Berlin ist leider eine sehr hässliche (Haupt-)stadt. Überall Müll.
Which town if I may ask?
@@kevzartwork3715 Landshut is one, 40 minutes by train
i wouldnt say that just outside of munich fits for landshut @@theprovost
It’s really difficult to talk about ONE Berlin. The thing about Berlin is that the city differs so much from district to district, it sometimes feels like you‘re moving to a different country, but you‘ve just travelled 5km east or west. It has some of the fanciest areas in all Germany, but also some of the most run-down, some of them right in the center of the city (Hello Alexanderplatz). The thing that gave Berlin the edge was the low cost of apartments until recently. Unfortunately, that‘s all gone now as Berlin is 2nd most expensive city for renters, after Munich. So, I guess in a way, Berlin is getting a bit like Munich, which not everyone is in love with.
We need high rent...or the whole city will turn into a large primitiv ghetto...and people make ghettos.....verschmiert und verschlampt. Calling it being free..
why is Berlin even getting so expensive since salaries in Munich are still far better?
what about the cost living (other than rent prices) between the two cities? i've heard people saying that berlin is more of an affordable place to live for students (: thanks
Berlin ist ein beschissenes Loch.
@@obuyWw Prices are pretty much unified across the country when it comes to groceries and retail. The only differences I've ever noticed are sales prices dipping a bit lower in some regions than in others, like bananas being 0.90€ instead of 0.99€. Totally negligible. Eating out is a good bit cheaper in Berlin. Activities might be as well, but as a student you'll get discounts everywhere, so it's probably not a big deal.
Don't underestimate how ridiculously hard it is to find a place to live, though. Even if your budget is good and you lower your standards to the minimum, it's not going to be fun. Supply and demand are way out of whack. That's why I'd suggest also having a look at smaller and less popular towns with a university. Typical concerns like being conservative, small-minded, possibly xenophobic etc. don't play as much of a role in uni towns since they attract lots of young people.
I'm from Munich and have visited Berlin a few times and both cities have their pros and cons.
Berlin seems great if you are young and like extreme partying, especially if you are into recreational drugs other than beer and weed.
It's also great if you want to have a very alternative lifestyle or want to be in some kind of "scene".
Also, while it got more expensive in recent years, it's on average still cheaper than Munich.
Munich is great if you want a more relaxed lifestyle, hanging around in beergardens, cafés or parks.
It's also an extremely safe city. And it's a great hub for hiking and traveling in the beautiful alpine region and northern Italy.
Architecturally and appearance wise I like Munich more but I might be biased, both cities have beautiful and not-so-beautiful parts.
Both are rich in history, have great art galleries and awesome museums. Both cities have great job opportunities, too.
You can chill in a park in Berlin and be a free-thinking artist in Munich. Hell, Freddy Mercury lived here for 6 years.
Also both cities have a large international community so it's no problem in either of them to find friends if you are from abroad.
Something that slips beyond the tourist radar is the fact that most of Berlin is actually quiet and boring. Exploring Mitte, Friedrichshain, Kreuzberg etc. obviously makes for a more engaging trip than strolling around some random sleepy neighbourhood, so it's to be expected, but I do wish people didn't generalise the entire city based on that. The only place I encounter weed(s) with any regularity round where I live is in the forest, and I'm barely outside the Ring.
People spend around 32% of their income on rent in both cities, by the way. The same likely applies to prices for goods and services. So living in Berlin isn't actually "cheaper" in any sense that matters.
tell about party scene man.....
Both cities have their pros and cons.
I am Bavarian and I still love Berlin not least bc my daughter lives there.
And the third city I love is Hamburg - yet another completely different cup of tea. 😉
Germany is diverse ! And that's not a bad thing at all !!
Have you visited any villages ?
@@yourtruebrit Grew up in a tiny Bavarian village and have been to hundreds all over Germany since then. Now I live mostly near Ulm which you know quite well. :))
It is bad if you want to feel at home in your own country, but this world doesn't give a fuck about that just money and a better life for everybody while we lose our land and a normal price to get a house and make children.
As a German, Fuck this this world.
I used to live in South Germany (Stuttgart) now in North and I love it here so much more! 🤍
I have been to a lot of places in germany and i personally think the north german people are the nicest people in germany. Just very pleasant to be around and chill people.
@@MrBroken030 Where exactly? I'm looking for new places to move to :D
Welcome to the north! I once lived for a while in Baden-Württemberg too (deep in swabia). I must admit, I was happy, when I was back in the north.
I am way more happier in the south
I hope someday I can live in Berchtesgaden
Munich actually has a higher percentage of foreigners compared to Berlin.
I feel like the difference is that Berlin has these hubs and Munich is more decentralised when it comes to areas where foreigners live
In a way it’s two different cities faced with the same reality imposed upon them externally, namely globalisation. One tries to fight it and fails, at least partially and what you end up with is greater segregation. The other embraces it as part of its international outlook, but also fails to prevent cultural segregation. As open and multicultural as Berlin is in some areas, greatly segregated areas remain, both in terms of very rich and conservative native areas and majority immigrant neighbourhoods. So both strategies have brought advantages and disadvantages, but what’s clear is that neither is perfect and neither has been able to fight reality, if you will.
I’m also not arguing there’s nothing a country can do or could have done to restrict or reduce the impact of globalisation or migration specifically, but there’s only so much a city can do. The munich vs berlin comparison is a very interesting example of this. I’m reminded of my home town of many years Zurich, which also is much more multicultural than people think, but heavily ethnically and culturally segregated by zip code.
And that's how it should be.
That's how people get to know each other better and there's a smaller chance of conflict.
may i ask for the source regarding the % of foreigners?
Lmao, had to Google it and it's really true.
Also different immigrants. Munich is mainly balkans and a few others while in berlin it's much more global. Also foreigners in munich are much better integrated so a lot of the time u don't notice someone is a foreigner, which is why people think Munich doesn't have that much of them
I'm always amazed at the video quality of this channel. I don't know if it's the editing, direction, camera quality or a bit of everything, but man, such beautiful shots!
Aww thanks man. yeah I used to work in adverts in Germany. Editing can take days :)
anyone saw the huge sneak peak at the end!, yes we did collaborate in Berlin!
All these people are so friendly and express their opinions well
Aw Danke 🥰
*and* they're doing it in English which for many is a second or third language. I can only wish my German was as good as their English!
I lived in Berlin for a while and worked with Berliners, Bavarians and people from Cologne in all three cities. I think Berlin is a special place in Germany and honestly, I think I was very lucky that was the first place I went to in Germany. I find Köln more similar to Berlin than Munich, seems quite young and open minded, easy going as well, at least in my circles. I really like the whole north of Germany, feels more sincere and natural to me. I really like the look of Bavaria, but I never felt very welcomed there, always felt it’s quite judging. Considering I’m white men with similar posh attitude as Bavarians I can’t imagine how weird must Bavaria feel to people of color for example.
Trust me, Bavarians discriminate against everyone equally bad, even other Germans that arent from Bavaria lol
it isn't about race, but about class. if you look rich but are black, the posh society will still rather welcome you than a white hippster student.
@@NoctLightCloud yeah whch explains perfectly how hypocritical munich is. its just a place where the people are as "normal" as possible to not to say boring and simple minded...
So Many Wonderful people from Across the Globe. Thankyou for making this video.
I really like your channel man.. good job :) I gained some insights into the cultural differences between Munich and Berlin
I must say the girls from France Germany Greece Turkey almost have an American twinged accents! No typical German and French accents.. what a change from the previous generation
Globalisation in a nutshell, really. American pop culture really has shaped a whole generation around the world, for better and for worse. Mind you, selection bias always applies. Generally speaking, countries have always been divided into two camps, those willing and privileged enough to travel a lot / move abroad and those who stay at home, out of choice or necessity. Globalisation vastly increased the number of people able to do so, but the divide, which is as much cultural and political as it is economic is still there, in fact it has just got greater. And resulting in that, you have very internationally minded people with great language skills and the “rest” with strong roots in local traditions. I think your average french or spanish person, in my experience, does speak English better now than 50 years ago, but the divide still exists and what you’re seeing here are only those out of the “international camp”.
They've been watching a lot of English language CZcams videos. The previous generations of French and German people got their American pop culture as tv-series and movies dubbed in French or German.
Whats called globalization is in fact americanization. (cit. Henry Kissinger)
The power of American influence. A film made in USA goes over the whole globe instantly...they are careful here ti let things in to keep it pure....very clever
@@dagmarvandoren9364purist Americans lmao no
Munich has my heart, for sure. I love love love that it's so *clean*. You could eat off of most sidewalks. It's just classy af.
Indeed. Germany's Disney-Land.
As much as i love Berlin i will never get past the general apathy and unfriendliness. Anytime i get a smile it feels like a miracle.
Do you have any stories of it? 😊
yes, better enjoy the fake smile and fake friendliness of Bavarians.
@@ferrarizzi1219 that's called being polite and you should actually appretiate the effort people make to not ruin your mood.
@@blnnnni guess different people value different things
Oh more than i can count, for example i have a neighbour living beneath me that i'm always bumping into on the apartment stairs. I had always smiled and said hi but she practically ignored me every time and looked at me with a dead stare. It's so weird, i actually go out of my way to ignore her now. Other neighbours always give a small smile or say something but not her. For me that small amount of effort to be polite goes a long way. @@yourtruebrit
I freaking love the end of this video. The handshakes, the ambiguous national hymn music, the laughs, the politeness, the smiles. Great video sir, you were polite, welcoming, and let people speak their minds.
Just an interesting thing: Before 1945, or even more so before 1918, the images of both cities and the regions they were in (Prussia and Bavaria) were quite reversed. Back then, Bavaria and Munich were the more relaxed places and Berlin/Prussia was the conservative "law and order" area. Berlin still has not really recovered from the post-war chaos and Bavaria upgraded itself economically after 1945, in part with the help of companies and people that fled the soviet zone of occupation (like Audi/Horch or Siemens).
Very interesting point.
Die Vertriebenen, vor allem sie Sudeten waren ebenfalls essentiell für Bayerns Aufstieg
"Fled" is a nice euphemism.
In many cases the Bavarian Government lured those companies over with tax-benefits and other goodies.
And now they complain that Berlin is poor and needs to be subsidized.
@@lagrange777able Berlin ist als Stadt schon lange an Unterhaltszahlungen gewohnt. Vor allem seitdem sie geteilt war und westliche Teile eine Exklave der BRD war und der östliche Teil das Schaufenster in den Kommunismus für den Westen. Daher erhielten beide Seiten hohe Zuwendungen. Da man die Stadt wieder zur Hauptstadt machen wollte, hat das auch nach der Wiedervereinigung nicht aufgehört.
Die Bayern zahlen mittlerweile über 1,5 Milliarden pro Jahr direkt nach Berlin. Die Summen, die Bayern an den Bund zahlen muss sind viel schneller angestiegen als unsere eigenen Steuereinnahmen. (Und ja Bayern hat auch einige Zeit Zahlungen vom Bund erhalten, doch sind die Dimensionen, selbst inflationsbereinigt, mittlerweile völlig andere.)
Wir haben immer weniger Geld für uns selber. Jahr für Jahr. Das ist was wir nicht akzeptieren. Vor allem weil sich viele Dinge nicht zu verbessern scheinen. Der Berliner Flughafen, das Pergamonmuseum, die Oper, das neue Kanzleramt. Alles ist unglaublich teuer und wird im Endeffekt vom Steuerzahler getragen. Ein Cousin von mir studiert in Berlin. Kunstgeschichte, momentan arbeitslos. Seine Freundin, obwohl vollkommen ausgebildet, arbeitet auch nicht, weil sie noch keine Lust dazu hätte. In München wäre so etwas schlichtweg undenkbar, sogar unmöglich.
Der Kindergarten ist in Berlin kostenlos, in München kostet das pro Kind bis zu 12.000€ für drei Jahre. München hat horrende Mietpreise, die auch die Steuern generieren, die dann nach Berlin oder andere Gebiete Deutschlands fließen, nie aber in den sozialen Wohnungsbau oder Ähnliches hier in Bayern.
Außerdem war die Arbeitslosigkeit über Jahre gewaltig in Berlin und das hat nicht nur damit zu tun, daß ein paar Firmen am Anfang des 20. Jahrhunderts nach Bayern gezogen sind. Als ob das für den Aufstieg zur Wirtschaftsmacht ausreichen kann. Selbst der Berliner Bürgermeister regte sich vor 15 Jahren darüber auf, dass in Berlin niemand arbeiten will. (In Bayern ist die Arbeitslosigkeit seit Jahren unter 5%, teilweiee sogar unter 3%.)
Der wirtschaftliche Aufstieg von Bayern hat außerdem viel mehr Dimensionen als ein paar Firmen. Die Sudeten waren hervorragend ausgebildet und bereicherten die hiesige Wirtschaft (es war aber auch eine gewaltige Herausforderung diesen Menschen Wohnraum zu schaffen und zu integrieren), man erkannte früh das wirtschaftliche Potenzial von Tourismus (vor allem bei der Umstrukturierung von Oberfranken) und lockte so fremde Währungen ins Land, man investierte in hervorragende Universitäten, man verhalf der Chemieindustrie und der Automobilindustrie hier Fuß zu fassen, auch in der Nachkriegszeit und der Zeit nach 1972, in der viel Schwerindustrie gestorben ist. Man wurde zu einem bedeutenden Standort für Finanzen und IT und man half der Unterhaltungsindustrie.
Berlin beging derweil einige Fehler. Von der problematischen Situation einiger Vororte, die bekannt für allerlei Kriminalität sind, bis hin zu verpassten wirtschaftlichen Chancen, Korruption bei Großprojekten und zu geringen Maßnahmen gegen all diese Probleme.
Wirtschaftlich macht Berlin zwar durchaus Fortschritte mittlerweile, doch aus irgendeinem Grund macht sich das nie dann bemerkbar, wenn es um die Höhe der Ausgleichszahlungen geht. Außerdem ist die Stadt immer noch Schauplatz von erschreckenden Zuständen hinsichtlich Kriminalität.
Und dann kommen immer wieder diese abfälligen Kommentare uns gegenüber. Das alles provoziert uns.
@@lagrange777able der Ort an dem die NSDAP gegründet wurde hat auch noch am meisten nach dem Krieg profitiert, ich kann jeden verstehen der etwas kritisch aufs schöne Bayern schaut.
Grew up near Cologne, lived in Hamburg for a long time. Both Berlin and Munich are two very weird and non-German places to me :D
Nur weil die Bayern nicht magst. Der Rest der Welt denkt e dass die deitsche Kultur so wie in Bayern isch
Are there any German cities in Germany?
Most cities in my Bundesland seem to be non-German. They are predominantly Arabic with scattered German looking parts like an Altstadt or so.
@@Vanilleviruslmao😂. Reading such comments as a German is funny 😂. Stop reading right-wing doomerists pls. Your brain will be better for it
@@Vanillevirusmy Croatian colleague asked the same thing
As Viennese I visit Munich when I want to travel but feel at home, cities like Hamburg or Berlin are just travel destinations. Every time I was in Berlin I had to deal with some kind of violence - the worst was a man being stabbed :( Last time I was so upset that I was shaking and just aimlessly walking around and then I saw the Bavarian flag in front of me - a "Biergarten" in Berlin. Sitting there I could calm down, see the sun and hear the birds again. I didnt leave until it was time to get to my train. I dont think I will return for another visit to Berlin, its not meant to be.
Das ist bestürzend und bedauerlich!
Hoffentlich geht's trotzdem soweit gut.
Ich lebe seit 1989 in Berlin, -West damals, und habe auch schon so einiges durchgemacht.
Solche Erfahrungen haben einen eigenen Wert...
@@praeceptorIch bin Berliner, Jahrgang '82. Ich habe auch schon so einiges mitbekommen und selbst erlebt. Es lässt sich leider nicht vermeiden, besonders wenn man viel in der Stadt unterwegs ist. Ich kann diesen Erfahrungen keinen Wert beimessen.
als ich im Dezember in Wien war, haben sich und zwei neben mir in der Bim zu prügeln begonnen (Haltestelle Reumannplatz💀). Hab auch erst mal ein wenig gebraucht, um mich zu beruhigen. Fazit: Es kann in jeder Großstadt was passieren. LG aus Graz
Awesome Chanel . I saw you came to my city in St Albans UK
I know those are personal experiences, but most of them are based on stereotypes they've heard.
Berlin is usually pretty quiet and relaxed most of the time. If you're always in Prenzlauer Berg or Friedrichshain, then yes, of course, it's loud and crazy.
On the other hand, Munich isn't as conservative as some people say. Just because Berlin is known for its party scene and drugs doesn't mean Munich is too conservative. Munich has a rich history in the queer community. Freddy Mercury lived in Munich for a long time. In the Glockenbach or University districts, there are numerous queer communities, bars, and clubs for great nightlife.
While the Bavarian Government is conservative, the city itself is influenced by left-leaning parties.
Another interesting fact is that Munich is actually more diverse than Berlin. There are more people with different backgrounds and ethnicities living in Munich. Munich is also home to major companies like Siemens AG, Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, BMW, Airbus, MAN, Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. So, in terms of job opportunities, Munich is more appealing than other cities.
Berlin is a fantastic and vibrant city. I love it there too. But that doesn't mean you can't find relaxation there. Most of Berlin is pretty quiet and has a mix of people. It's mainly the downtown districts that are very youthful and lively.
Munich and Berlin are indeed different but share more similarities than many people realize.
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As a German from Frankfurt, I would much rather live in Berlin than Munich. Cause I think like the lives of people in Munich are way to ordered/strict. While Berlin is more open to new things. Also as that one dude sad people from Munich are indead snobs who think they are "somewhat better" than the rest of the country.
Well, Frankfurt/Main is much closer to Berlin when it comes to its vibes. It's similar international and its "Mainhattan"-style helps in this regard.
Munich's "poshines" were always a mix of Bavarian snobbism based on their Freistaat-Status in Germany (similar to how Saxonians are behaving nowadays).
Sure, if you're going only by stereotypes.
Munich is a big village ! Berlin is a world City !
LOL
Thank you very much ! Great video, funny and interesting !
Of course Berlin is very international, but so is Munich too. And in their very special way they are German because Germany, German culture, German history is quite diverse.
Visiting those two cities you can get a good impression of how different it can feel to be in different parts of Germany. But then there are still many places which are different from both, Berlin and Munich.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quite true, even moving around Germany can make you feel the odd man out. And the small regional differences sometimes cause more misunderstanding/trouble than the outright differences ;)
Haha this gave me a good laugh. I lived in Munich for 10 years and have only visited Berlin. And its all true! Munich very much shaped me as a person.
I‘m surprised how many people you find who speak such good English. And I also love the ending with the music and handshake. 🏴
Auslander in Munich. Yes, have good German vibe, but so many places to visit, park to play around, beergarten and awesome beer, good friendly people, safe anytime, clean, in time , nearby places within and outside Germany to roam around. Cons- expensive compared to other European cities.
I love these videos. You do a great job putting these folks at ease and really getting them to give their true feelings on a place. I live in the USA, but Munich is my favorite city in the world... hoping to maybe partially retire there in a few years. Love the handshakes at the end also. Well done!
The perception of rudeness is not fixed and can differ based on personal experiences and beliefs. What you consider "rude" is a subjective concept.
Nah man, if you get told to f**k off for orderly and normal conduct, that IS objectively rude. F Berlin.
I guess I should visit both more often. It will be 10 years this year since I last was in Berlin and even more since I last was in Munich (but just around the main station really). What I heard it's like Berlin presents like the modern side of Germany and Munich the more traditional side. I live in Frankfurt/Main. Here it's more the business side. It's also very international, but not as open as Berlin I think. Harder to meet people.
Funnily enough, Frankfurt and Munich are actually the most international cities when it comes to percentages, even higher than Berlin
@@anna.k2864 Offenbach has the highest percentage of foreigners in Germany. Stuttgart, Mannheim and Heilbronn, were I was born, all have a higher percentage of foreigners.
TBH, mangels Äppler gibts eigentlich keinen Grund da hinzufahren (war früher familiär sehr oft in Berlin, und wg Job mehrmals in München).
Berlin and Munich are the only two German cities I have been to but I have to say I much preferred Berlin. Berlin feels more open, especially in the centre. Munich also felt a lot more expensive in comparison. I'm sure if you have a fair bit of money to spare you could really enjoy Munich but on a regular income it isn't the most inviting place. Aesthetically Munich is very pretty, I will give it that, it looks better than Berlin.
Well, most (young) people ignore that Berlin, as the country's capital, and bc of retaliation reasons too, was the main target of bombardment in WWII. Therefore Munich, which was out of reach for the Allied forces for the majority of that War looks more "historic" than nowadays Berlin.
@@agn855 Munich was similarly destroyed, it was just rebuilt in the same historic fashion. Stuttgart, where I'm from, was also destroyed but was not rebuilt historically and as a result has IMO a relatively ugly city center.
Man, I would love to hang out with the guys from Netherlands. They seem quite energetic and chill.
Great video! 😂
Thanks man :)
The handshake and the hymn at the end are so cool hahaha, I saw myself singing my patriotic heart out "Einigkeit und Pressefreiheit für das deutsche Vaterland........"
Thanks so much :)
Pressefreiheit?? haha
Never been to Berlin, but I have always come back to Bavaria for holidays. Even though over the years, I have lived in BW, Hesse, NRW, I would still prefer to retreat to Bavaria than Berlin.
the blue lighting on that guy's dark skin tone looks so cool
I am glad you noticed that small detail we saw 😅😂
Munich is a bit more bearable in the winter. Even though the weather is not much better it is more south and you can ski and it has more snow as oppose to dark, grey, rainy Berlin. Summer, Berlin is a bit better because of the beaches, near Ocean and mostly not to hot.
I only ever met two people from Berlin who preferred Munich over Berlin. A workaholic gay couple.
I live in munich. Every time I get off the train in Berlin I think about not touching anything. It's not as clean as Munich. After 2 days I got used to it. But the first time is always a shock. Always.
Munich is fancy and tourist oriented...says a person from prenzlberg...
🤣🤣🤣
There are a lot of people from Munich in Berlin, but a Berliner in Munich seems rare .....
You got the cross upside down fool. Sacral offense.
@@ivobaren1 Hail Satan
See you in hell 😁
As German I'm proud that our capital is one of the craziest creative places in Europe and enjoyed my time spent there but in Munich you live a more laid back life and don't get your energy drained all day.
Maybe this is also just my older self speaking. Wtf!
Should include Cologne and Hamburg to have Full House :D
Ok on the to do list :)
Please do this in Hamburg as well! 😄
Stuttgart and Frankfurt are officially mad at you.
@@timokohler6631 nah Frankfurt isn't a big loss imo.
and frankfurt. so we can compare the big 5 in germany
Are you planning to compare some more places, e.g.: Hamburg (seafarers) or Frankfurt (Main; finance)...?
11:09 “Babarians are a bit snob”: sometimes pronunciation does matter 😂
As much as i'm a Northerner i would never call Bavarians "Babarians".
Actually Bavaria as the rest of the South is the only "non-barbarian" part of Germany as the Romans ended up along the Limes from Danube to Frankfurt and Trier. They never made it to the place where Berlin is situated and yes, there is some kind of cultural gap routhly along that line.
Another comment from me about München: Sport/Mountains/Biergärten (real ones - with your own Picknick basket …), …
13:15 cg look kommi "A small town just outside of Munich, my personal slice of heaven. I will die in these hills" unter den Kommis die Stadt Landshut
Now we need Bonn vs Berlin
Omg! The ending with easy german!! As an Auslanderin i feel myself more comfortable in Berlin (i have seen the other cities too but they were too german for me). As it offers more cultures and opportunities and you also meet more people who have been/are going through the same shit as you. So my choice is definitely Berlin!
PLEASE ALSO MAKE A COMPARISON FOR MUNICH AND KOLN!
Berlin is nor comparable to anything else in Germany. Munich is Bavaria, Hamburg is nordic culture, Cologne is quiet similar to Amsterdam. But Berlin is just a melting pot of people and history. Looks quiet messed up but unique anyway 😉
Munich isn't very representative for Bavaria just like Stuttgart isn't very representative for Swabia.
For Bavaria I would recommend Regensburg, Landshut, Freilassing, Ingolstadt, Traunstein, Passau, Freising, Weilheim, ... the ones coming to my mind right now.
For Swabia I would recommend Ludwigsburg, Schwäbisch Gmünd, Schwäbisch Hall, Ulm, Esslingen, Göppingen, Tübingen, Reutlingen, Biberach, Ravensburg, Wangen, Heidenheim, Aalen, Crailsheim, ... (spontaneous random selection).
For Badenia (Baden) my recommendation would be eg. Karlsruhe, Mannheim, Heidelberg, Offenburg, Freiburg, Lörrach, Gernsbach, Triberg, Titisee-Neustadt, Furtwangen, Donaueschingen, Villingen, Konstanz. Mind that Karlsruhe and Mannheim are quite special cities. Both have been founded as resindence cities for Granddukes of Baden in the Barock era. They were planned cities in which the streets are following a particular geometry: in Mannheim the streets in the centre are delimiting square areas with buildings; in Karlsruhe a number of streets start at the residential palace emerging radially while a few streets are following a semicircle or cut across some of the radial streets.
@@MichaelBurggraf-gm8vl Sounds strange but Schwäbisch Hall is not swabian.
@@christofabt8958Thank you for that hint. I'm not completely surprised by that. However reading the Wikipedia article was revealing a very interesting history to me.
@@MichaelBurggraf-gm8vl Baden =/= Kurpfalz
You started it.
Now you have to compare Hamburg and Cologne.
Ok let’s do it :)
@@yourtruebrit👍👍👍👍
@@yourtruebrit Köln and Düsseldorf (be aware of death threats)
How to be hated in Germany 😂😅
@@yourtruebritOrder an Altbier in Cologne, or a Kölsch in Düsseldorf!😂
@5:53 MAN!! 😂
I could barely understand anyone in Bavaria. The Dutch couple said it well, It sounds like they are concealing their voice down a man hole. Nothing is distinct and crisp. When I hear Berliners, I get every last word.
I love Berlin, been there 4x. But watching this video I feel like visiting other cities in Germany.
yeah both are great cities :)
I think there great places to party in Münich too, you just need to have the right people to show you where these places are, most especially when your a foreigner. And Münich is near to beautiful places, so it's the best of both worlds haha
Gibt es denn in den 16 Ländern nur 2 Städte? Wie wär es mal mit Erfurt, Saarbrücken oder Husum?
So study in Munich, work in Berlin?
Would like to hear answers by working people (people over 30), they should be measuring their environments a bit differently carrying more responsibility and being more active part designing their own society. It would be interesting to know if their degrees converted to jobs easily or have they moved around a lot. How opened and responsive is the local government etc. You know, the stuff that actually changes your streets.
If you do such a video, you should include the north (Hamburg) and the west (Cologne) - because there are not just too kinds of German culture
It’s planned 😊
I don't know the differences. It's big cities, so too stressful to me as a "Landei" from Ruhrpott :D
Ruhrpott zusammengenommen ist ne "Stadt" um die 45 Millionen Einwohner.
Nicht wirklich klein.
Many Bavarians don't like not looking someone in the eye when shaking hands. This was noticed at the end of the video. Many Bavarians find this rude.
"Mia san mia" that says everything 🙂
Living in Munich now for most of my life (grown uo in a small town in "BaWü")
1. ""Mia san mia" There seem to be two sorts of this: An arrogant one and a very relaxed ("live and let live") version of it
2. Munich is culturally sort of extra-teritorial to Bavaria (for the better and worse)
I really felt when they said that people actually think Munich = Germany because it’s so true. I was raised in NRW (Duisburg, Gelsenkirchen, Krefeld…) and it’s like Berlin, it has the industrial vibe everywhere and is full of people all around the world. When people on the internet speak about Germany they’re actually speaking about Munich (punctuality, Oktoberfest, Mountains, rich people, clean city…). The area were I grew up is unpunctual (trains never arrive and if they do its +45 minutes delay), it’s flat land, we don’t have Oktoberfest (its more like Ramadan), people are often very poor with a very high unemployment rate and the cities are very dirty, full of trash. I still like those cities (specially Duisburg) because of my memories as a kid but I don’t want people to mix them up with all those “german” stereotypes out there.
Maybe what you mean with Munich= Germany you mean Munich= stereo type. But doesn’t that mean that Munich ≠ Germany then?
You accidently played the national anthem of Liechtenstein at the end!
The best about munich is the daytrips to the alps. The best thing about berlin is the numerous daytrips within the city
Grew up in Munich, moved to Berlin for 8 years. Now I live in the countryside close to the Netherlands. Both cities degraded over the past decades and the original culture got lost because the native people can’t afford to live there anymore.
🇵🇹👍🏻💚❤️Berlin, wunderbar 🇩🇪
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We Munich people say: The only good thing about Berlin is the fast train connection to Munich ;)
Not the art maybe ?
@@yourtruebrit no, we have art too 😄
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We in Berlin say the only good thing about Munich is the short train ride to the Alps
Lol. As a Berliner, what would I go to Munich for? Snob watching? Experiencing tons of drunk af assholes in lederhosen at Oktoberfest? Paying my ass off for anyting I wanna do there? There's so much to choose from!
It's funny to hear foreign people living in Munich saying that Berlin is very international, when Munich is as international as Berlin is.
yeah right! It's all about perception I guess. Maybe this could be a sign that foreigners in Munich have blended in to the German lifestyle, while Berlin foreigners do like to stand out more?
Vor 40 Jahren war München noch ein Dorf, doch nachdem die Dackel mit Anhang von uns gegangen sind, und sich Kuckucksuhren nur noch bedingt verkaufen ließen, hat auch der letzte CSU'ler kappiert das am Computer kein Vorbeikommen ist. Von da an gings bergauf. Und wärs ohne Ausländer gegangen, hätten die Münchner bei einem Volksbegehren beide Arme hochgerissen. Ging aber nicht. Und nur deshalb.
As someone from Hamburg, I feel so much more at home when I am in Munich than when I visit Berlin. Berlin is fast-paced, chaotic, international, multicultural, quite loud and dirty, basically a hedonistic shithole. Munich has tradition, pride, order and beauty, life is in balance there. The Bavarian mentality, Germanys southern charm, plays a big role too. I still cant decide which one is better, the delicious cuisine or the lovely Munich girls.
there are actually two views on that. one is that Hamburg and Munich are like the a bit wealthier 'nice big cities' which compete vs. the big weird/interesting/edgy Berlin. But historically and structurally Hamburg is rather similar to Berlin (nowadays maybe like between Berlin and Munich). The reason is that in the end of the day also Berlin was part of the Hanseatic League (back then like Amsterdam less important than cities like Luebeck (kind of capital of the Hanse) Bremen, Hamburg, Rostick, Danzig/Gdsansk etc ... but you have similar Northern Coast like 'red bridge' style buildings than for instance in Middle and Southern Germany. Also many structures of the Prussian times are more similar between Hamburg and Berlin. Apart from that, Berlin as old imperial city and main spot of the late 19. and 20. century got more influence from all over the world and mixes in between (like much more even ancient Greek, Italian, and other styles). The Brandenburg Gate is for instance most interesting not due to that what most ppl think (sign of unicitation etc.) but that it was like in Athens/Greece created as a 2500 years old main gate to the different Akcopolis (High city), the one in Athens is just the most famous but Greece had many. It was a way to create cities). If you stand in front of the Brandenburg Gate you are basically standing at a 2500 years old ancient Greek gate of the most famous time of Greece - the one of Pericles. And thats also exactly why the Brandenburg Gate looks like it looks and its size. And its the best replica/example you have worldwide for such a gate, because only 3 are left (2 in Greece) and in Berlin (which took the old ones as rolemodel as is a quite accurate replica) which is kind of the best 'reconstruction'.
For all people not coming from germany. Thats Munich/Bavaria. We are THE best. Berlin AND all the rest of germany is shithole. Only Bavaria is good.I laugh everytime when bavarian say Berlin is hedonistic. Read what you write. Who is hedonistic? Bayaria the heaven of the world!!!😂 It's soooo boring! Bavaria could be nicer, if a lot of there would be more open for the rest of germany. We are ONE country.
Im from hamburg and i think berlin has way more common with hamburg than munich. Hamburg got very chaotic and loud areas too but also got the charm and class areas. Berlin is just bigger
Oh yeah, you can live a balanced life in Munich. If you're rich, that is. Munich is for people born with a golden spoon in their mouths. Berlin is for everybody.
Berlin also has the best parties in the world - what does Munich have in comparison? Seeing the same drunk ass toxic assholes at Oktoberfest that go to Ballermann every year? Munich isn't even in the same ballpark. It feels like it's a city run by boring ass boomers, for boring ass boomers.
@@publicminx Of note Berlin was kicked out of the Hanseatic League because they allowed nobles to take up residence there. They chose their path and since have gone to hell.
Since i am from the Southwest i am 100% team Munich!
Bavaria is very similar to my culture and Berlin is...let's keep it like that😅
do the same, but frankfurt vs offenbach
Offenbach? Isn't that fairly small?
@@boxsterman77offenbach is right next to frankfurt and the relationship of thouse 2 cities is very special.
@@nikomangelmann6054 oh I know it well. I lived in Worms and when traveling to Frankfurt I would go through this beautiful, but kleine Dorf. When encountering comparisons between two things, I’m just more accustomed to seeing peers on somewhat equivalent footing compared. Mainz, or Wiesbaden even compared to Frankfurt, the financial capitol of Germany makes more sense.
Munich for ever ❤
As a Pakistani I fully support love and respect France Germany and it's beautiful people from Pakistan 🙂. Best regards from Pakistan 🙂.
Theyre right about Munich but the state of Bavaria is by far the least German state in the country, Munich is however way more Germanized.
as a born Bavarian (Landshut area) who lived in Berlin for 3+ years .. :
München is very expensive but also it is about as Bavarian as Berlin is German. München is clearly the more functional city. Berlin is great if you don't care about "status" but are obsessed with "appearance" and if you want to chase everything about toxic and exciting about American culture (drugs, orgies, welfare, fetish clubs, drugs, never learn German beyond "mit Karte", and drugs). Berlin is where German people who don't want to live in Germany but don't want to bother with actually immigrating to a different country move and it's where foreigners who don't want to actually move to Germany but don't want to live in their home countries live. München is where you go to get a degree, make a ton of money, and flush all of it down the toilet paying rent. München offers such a better quality of life, at a high price, but Berlin is insanely fun and the question is not "if" it will drive you crazy, rather "when". I didn't like Berlin anymore but I wanted to still be able to make and save enough money and München would never allow that:
so I moved to Vienna 🤣 (+7 years!)
Why Vienna ? 😅
@@yourtruebritweil Bayern das bessere Deutschland ist und Österreich ist das bessere Bayern
@@yourtruebrit Vienna has everything great about Munich with a much more affordable and even higher quality of life
@@JonVonD but I thought salaries in Vienna were worse compared with Munich or, actually, all of Southern Germany. I agree with you that Vienna is indeed a really nice city.
Too accurate
i want to visit Berlin for long time.But i was in Munich its very clean city i like it..But in none of this cities i would actualy live..At the moment i am living in small city in Germany 30k people and i am just relaxed here..I come from big city 500k people and i get tired of car noises drugs and rocken roll :) For young people who like fun i would say visit Berlin.For Educated people who like to feel safe and try achive something i would say visit Munich..As i tourist i would say i want to go to Berlin :)
Munich’s where it’s at. Wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else
NO, MUNICH (I have family there) is different from the rest of Germany, not Berlin and that is a fact, I have lived in Berlin (7 years), Hamburg (2 years), Leipzig (3), Halle (14 years) and Frankfurt a. M. (2 years) ... now I live in Jena ... so I can say that with certainty.
I think the architecture is not so much Austrias influence on Munich then russias influence on Berlin :D
Munich is like a fusion of Chicago and Boston
Berlin is like a fusion of NewYork and Detroit. 😅
Munich is more for older posh people.
I wonder what it was like to learn German
Both citys arent that great. Berlin is so run down it isnt even funny anymore. "In the Past Berlin was poor but sexy today its just poor". Munich on the other hand is so rich you almost feel bad. It seems like the people there just work and sleep. Also but thats maybe something personal I think people from bavaria always think they are something better.
Because we are 😉
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Grew up in Munich and been to Berlin a few times. Imo Munich is the better city to live in here are the reasons why:
Munich is safer, greener, cleaner, smells better and more relaxed over all. The average building in Munich is more beautiful than an average building in Berlin imo. Berlin has more homeless people, more drug addicts, both relatively speaking to the population. Berlin is huge because during WW2 Nazi leadership thought that the capital of a country has to be huge so they aggregated multiple districts into one meaning there isn't a clear cut city center. It's distributed. Some may like that, some may not. I don't. In Munich many things are relatively close together and getting around is very easy with public transport. Nightlife is one area where Berlin wins in terms of size but Munich has a really nice Nightlife as well. It's not as big and not as "legendary" but still.. Lot of clubs.. Some famous like Rote Sonne. Raves have grown a lot in popularity in the last few years and it has never been easier to get recreational drugs. Berlin is more "creative" tho and theres definetly a lot more "alternative" people in Berlin. Politically Berlin is pretty very left leaning, much more so than Munich. My cousin goes to University in Berlin and she told stories about how many Drug addicts there and how weird many people are. She was asked if she was sure that she is indeed a woman. Like if she wasn't confused about her gender and such.. To each their own. Berlin is very international yes but so is Munich. Many big companies are present in Munich and Munich is growing very fast. Its the most expensive city in Germany for a reason. Munich is close to Italy and Austria which means relatively easy access to beaches, mountains and very good food. For work and long term family raising Berlin is straight up inferior imo and during college.. well you choose what you want. I love Munich and it's a very beautiful city with very few downsides. One possible downside is that quite a few people in Munich are pretty snobby and there is a "elitist" thinking in many places. The difference in amount of dirt between Berlin and Munich can not be overstated tho. Besides the goverment district I would always prefer Munich. Berlin is good for a week or maybe a few weekends for Partying. Thats about it imo. Also Munich has the Isar and Englischer Garten which both very clean and very nice to relax in. Can even go swimming in Munich in the Summer.
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Munich lacks trees in a lot of areas. There need to be trees in the streets.
Never thought about that. Also in Berlin. at least at some places. you can shop after 8 pm and on Sundays.
Cologne!
Friendly, gregarious people, yes, but the city itself is utterly forgettable with the exception of the cathedral.
Why do you play the national anthem of Liechtenstein?
I love these street surveys of foreigners talking about german cities ^^
Thanks so much, yeah this Berlin and Munich
@@yourtruebritye i was able to figure that out 😅
It's like everywhere else. People are more relaxed in the north than in the south.
Yes you are right. Greetings from Korea.
You usually hear it the other way around. But it depends how you define it I guess.
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You either love or hate Berlin...it has its rough charme...as stated already by Frederic the Great "der alte Fritz" = "jedem Tierchen sein Plaisierchen" = "everybody should live as liked" 😅😎
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yeah its true, I agree that Berlin is great for partying and more edgy life. But if you love the countryside then yeah the south 100% :)
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As stated by all of those people in your video = Germany is very different from federal state to federal state...why is it like thst?
Well, one could say, that todays federal states are the ancient territories of the biggest ancient Germanic tribes (apart from Saxony = that got its name due to in those days usual wedding politics), therefor the quite different dialects, mentalities etc 😁
You need to visit all 16 capitals of the 16 federal states 😅
Greetings from Bremen 👋
I agree, Bremen is a wonderful city. do you live in the centre or outside?@@saba1030
@@yourtruebritI love the northern countryside, experiencing the rough elements in the winter and the idyllic rolling hills, lakes and beaches in the summer! Great for all types of outdoor activities. I've been to many many beautiful places in almost all federal states (never been to Saarland) and I loved it there, but I don't want to leave Schleswig-Holstein. The change between extreme storm and bright sunshine within minutes is what I love. People who come here to have beach holidays might disagree, but I don't mind.
As a guy from Munich, yes I agree, we are complete snobs lol
I think you need to interview some older people, and get their perspectives
Good idea :)
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If they would knew politics of germany, some would change there opinions on Bavaria and munic
Conservative politics work. Look at the state of Bavaria and look at the state of Berlin (left winged politics). Wherever leftist govern, the place will deteriorate.
Prefer Munich over Berlin..
Munich has the most good thinks Berlin has... just less weird and less crime.
The people in both cities who divide people outside of this cities are...
- Left-wingers (real ones) with big dreams in Berlin
- conservatives (no, not N@zis... they are far closer to the democrats than the republicans in the US) with big money in Munich
This guys in Munich are (or can be) arrogant because they have money... this guys in Berlin are (or can be) arrogant because they an opinion.
Have you lived anywhere else in Germany ? :)