Thank you for the video. Just a couple of things for your viewers, research the exact generator and know your a/c unit. For example, there are other videos where someone can't run diddly on a 3400 watt propane generator, and another one where someone runs a 15K btu with a Firman 3300 watt without any soft start stuff added to the a/c. I think one of the best resources for gen set comparison is Long Long Honeymoon, where they seem to be able to run their 13.5K btu a/c and other appliances pretty well with the 3,000 watt category. Something to keep in mind with the dual 2000 watt generators, is you will be doing routine maintenance on two generators instead of one. So if you are like me and you'd rather go to the dentist than perform yearly lawn mower engine maintenance, then maybe two generators will take the "recreation" out of Recreational Vehicle.
All great points & 100% accurate. I hoped to give people a solid generalized base of knowledge they could use to grow on, but this is awesome advanced info for those looking to know a little more. I asked our service team what's one thing they wish they could get more customers to understand. The overwhelming consensus was "I wish people would take more personal responsibility in learning and knowing their own camper. It would do them so many favors and save them a lot of money."
Of course, the maintenance flip side is that two are unlikely to fail simultaneously, so when something goes wrong you can still run everything but AC, so that may balance it out.
Great info. I also wondered about the size of the fuel tank on the smaller 2k generator vs a larger 3500 or 4k. Runtime between fill ups is also a consideration when boondocking.
You can only run one (sometimes 2) but a micro start (soft start) on your AC up to 15K and you can get by on a 50# 2K generator. I’ve done this for several years, it will run my microwave and coffee pot at the same time. I got to old to heft any of the 3K plus gen sets.
We opted for 2 smaller generators because I don't want to have to lift a large generator in and out of the back of our truck at a dog show. I'd much rather deal with two small ones.
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What brand and size do I get? I m just buying a 23 ft. 5000 bound. For ac/ heat and hot water heater, 1 TV, fridge? What would be ur choice and where do I get it and how much.? Lol this is my first at camping. Well I'm gonna live in it
Every time I think of something I need to understand to prepare for my trailer, I search to see if you have anything on it, and yep here you are again!!! Cheers
We have used the czcams.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
Great video as always Josh A few points to add. In some states (like NY) our state camp grounds have generator hours which typically are 9-11am 4-7pm. So if you plan on doing lots of state camping in this case running the AC in the summer becomes a challenge so keep that in mind as well when buying a generator. We have a small 2200 unit to keep everything topped off but with limited hours cooling may be challenging if you have a big unit depending on your campground. So point here is before buying one is figure out what type of camping you will be doing. I know people that only go to full hookups, I also know people like myself that do all state camping no hookups and then there are folks that go on land and camp with no restrictions. Just a few things to keep in mind so you don't end up spending lots of money on something you can only use at specific times. Depending on the type of camping spending the money on a battery bank or extra batteries with a solar panel might be better. Really depends on the user. Just wanted to share some thoughts on stuff I know I didn't think about when buying mine. Happy camping
Very good video, I have a Firman 3300. It has 3000 running watts and when starting up our 13k btu a/c the idle does max out and then settles. You are so right in that aspect and a e-z start for my a/c would be helpfull. I can run a/c and refrigerator on electric but wouldn't try no other appliances. Love the video and thank you for sharing. Happy camping😊
Great information, I and my wife have been watching you for a few months now as we save and decided on what we want in a small couples camper for our small family. You constantly speak about the starter packs in your walk through videos that you guys (include?) With each new purchase. I have seen the informative videos you have done on the recommend items such as surge protector, water pressure valve, water hose, ect. But I haven't seen anything about a full starter pack and everything that may or may not be included with it. Thanks for the great information, videos and honesty.
All new RV pricing at our facility includes: * 1 or 2 batteries depending on the size/needs of the RV * Propane tank purge & Fill * Cleaning inside and out * Showing you how to work the camper * Water Pressure limiter * Electric Surge Protector (30 or 50 amp as required) * 30 to 15amp reducers (and 50amp if appropriate for the RV) * basic water/sewer hose & tank treatments All the essentials you and the trailer *definitely* need to get started. Beyond that each person's "need" varies as a matter of camping style and preference. We make sure you have the basics covered.
We have a 36' toy hauler with two 15btu AC units and a built in 5500 Onan. We live in Arizona and even summer dry camping will work comfortably with both ac/units. However, the Generator eats lots of gas. For winter dry camping when we don't need A/C, we have three work arounds so as not to use the "big" Onan. First is a roof mounted 160 Solar unit to keep our two 6volt golf cart batteries topped off if we have sun. Second is a 3000 watt inverter which will allow a for some late night TV and early morning coffee from battery power, with no generator use. Finally we have a small, 1250 watt WEN Generator. While the Yamaha and Honda generators are great, they are expensive. The little 1250 watt WEN is small, light, quiet and sips gas. It will run a coffee pot or our tv and keep our batteries topped off. Best of all they are about $300 and ours has worked flawlessly for about 400 hours so far.
Excellent video. RE: AC and portable generators I’d add if your gen has econo-throttle feature that allows the engine to throttle back when there is no load, turn that off when running the AC. It takes the engine up to a second to rev up when a load is detected, and ac compressors do not like voltage droop. Also if your gen struggles with the AC, make sure the fridge is on LP mode and not auto, and temporarily shut off the breaker for the RV’s converter/charger. Turn it back on later when it cools off to charge the batteries if needed. The converter can pull a couple hundred watts depending on battery state. Personally I use an RV to go ATVing, trip to the coast, and other activities and I’m gone during the day. If it’s 112f out in the desert, I’d be up in the high mountains or at the coast where it’s cooler. Even if I go where there is a power hookup, I don’t want to have to sit in the RV hiding from the heat
I use the harbor freight 3200 running,4000 peak to run my air conditioner, tv, charger for phones, and tablet and it does just fine. I also have a 100' extension cord, 8 gauge wire, with the 30 amp plugs so I can put the generator in an area that absorbs the sound.
Hello, thank you for the great video and great information. My situation is a little bit different as I own a much older "canned ham" style camper which currently has a 5000btu window A/C unit in it. I would like to upgrade to a 8000btu as the 5000btu can struggle to keep the small camper cool if we're in direct sunlight. I was looking at some of the smaller generators because I don't feel like I need a huge amount of power. My camper is 14ft and pretty much just runs lights, 2 mini fridges and of course the A/C. I'm a single parent and am working with a budget so I need something economical and price friendly. I have used my dads 5500 watt generator to go boondocking, but as you said it's more trouble loading it in and out and storing it than it's worth. I to also usually run some string light around the outside of the camper at night when the A/C isn't having to work as hard. Would for example the ryobi 1800 watt running 2300watt start up inverter generator work for my needs, or should I save a little more and jump up to a 3400watt inverter generator? Any information from anyone would be of great help. Besides the afore - mentioned electronics we sometimes use a small 24"tv and blu-ray player, and phone chargers. Most of our time is spent outdoors fishing or that sort of thing. Also I wanted to mention I don't have any pumps for water or anything like that. None of that stuff is hooked up in my camper, it's very primitive.
Thank you for your video. Your insights into RVs help me to take more direct courses into maintenance and getting the most out of my RV. Just finished watching the video about RV refrigerators. I have a Sportsman dual fuel generator 7500 (LP and gas). I know it's a hoss of a generator, but I believe it to be user friendly and will power anything I need it for.
@@JoshtheRVNerd When we bought our used RV the fridge didn't last long. we bought a residential fridge and installed it. Wished now we'd bought a electric/LP fridge. Your video on the different types of fridges made me consider a 12vdc fridge. Maybe we can afford one soon.
A couple of points I didn't hear you mention. First, a 2000w generator likely only provides 1600 "running" watts. Second, for every 1000' of elevation, you lose 3.5% of potential output. Lastly, another hidden big draw is your Charge Convertor that charges your house batteries when connected to shore power or a generator. Also, getting a Micro-Air "Easy Start" allows you to run 13,500 and even 15k BTU AC units with simply one Honda 2000 at around 3,000' elevation. I installed them on both my trailers and ran my AC for about 30 minutes with no problem. I did turn off my Charge Controller, however.
Awesome video. The wife and went with a pair of 2000w inverter Champion generators. We went that way because we had the 4000w open frame/construction generator and it was loud and very heavy. We also came across some Campground do not allow those type because of the noise pollution they put out.
I was thinking about buying and connecting two 2500 generator/inverters but was concerned about the noise. I know that one alone is 54 Db but I don't how much louder adding a second would be. What has been your experience? Thanks
One 2,000 watt generator (Harbor Freight-Predator) is great for Led lights, fans, pumps, & recharging devices. I live in the northeast & our campgrounds generally have trees for shade. I’ve only used my air conditioner once in the 3 years I’ve had it....everything else we use propane.
Nice helpful video. Can you or one your Yamaha U guys show some generators and possibly do a noise test? I see videos of people talking about sizes and noise but don’t see many videos demonstrating it. 2k vs 3k vs 4K vs built in 5k, etc...
just got an EU 3000is honda inverter/gen and going to install the microair easy start for our AC on our Revel Sprinter and I am doing a trifuel conversion on the generator.
I was thinking about getting an inverter, instead of a generator because I have batteries anyway, but now I don't need to have gas cans as well. In your years of doing this, which is better for long term camping (2 weeks plus).
More Sound Advice. Thank you for your honestly, 30 AMP isn't really 30 AMP. We were work Camping in Yellowstone when an heavy April snow storm took down the AC power. The neighbors furnace failed them, so our 30 amp generator powered his electric heater and our entire 5th wheel equipped with a small electric heater. All was well until my wife started the Micro Wave. (mid-summer one of the stores lost power for 2 days and our little generator saved all of the ice cream in their 120acV freezer. We were rewarded with Drumsticks)
Josh one thing if people are using a generator to power there camper is not start the ac at 70 degrees start it at 85 degrees then gradually go colder just like fans even the hot water tank start the water temp at a lower temp then gradually raise it cause some generators don't have a ground fault circuit interrupter or a voltage regulator and causing the generator circuit breaker to fail prematurely and cause a fire
Thank you Josh for all your great videos. I just take a look at this one because i'm waiting for a new F-150 with 2kw generator onboard. I was asking myself if it will be enough to power the 13.5 ac in my travel trailer. If i run all other things on propane do you think it'll do the job.
Harbor freight predator 3500 inverter generator runs my 2019 micro Minnie. I can have 15k btu ac on, all lights on, TV, fridge on and no issues. I’m sure I could do the microwave but I never use it. I bought the 2 yr warranty about $850+ tax, but I have 20 hours on it no issues so far
You should also mention that people should not use construction generators at campsite. People get them because they are cheap and have high wattage, but they are super loud and ruin the camping experience for everyone in the area. Some campsites and parks also ban these generators and have certain noise standards as to what models are allowed.
*EXCELLENT POINT!* You shouldn't use those not just for noise reasons, but the fact that they don't provide clean, even power to the RV and run a very real risk of basically frying stuff. Inverter generators are the only way to go.
@@JoshtheRVNerd - Not entirely accurate. Champion's open frame generators provide very clean, very even power. Yes, they are also incredibly noisy, But- if you get an auxiliary muffler (and, if you can, an external housing), then you can get the noise down to that of- or less than- the average inverter unit, often for a fraction of what you'd spend on some of the more expensive inverters. I've run a setup like that for several years- and, yes, every once in a while, someone will complain- but those are the people who complain about Any generator.
I have both kinds of Predator generators. One is stable on my own site. I still couldn't take the noise. I made a dog house type insulated box w removable lid for service. Awww, the relief!!!!!!!!!!
I have a Predator 3500 Inverter generator to power my Coachmen Apex Nano 208BHS travel trailer. It works great, but I need to be sure not to run the AC and microwave at the same time.
Josh I know this is a older vid but it's a "golden oldie" How do you recommend using a portable gen when it's raining outside? The whole idea of water and electric still scares the bajeebers out of me ;) Do you let them out to run in wet weather? In the back end of a pick-up with a camper shell back door up (for travel trailers) okay? What about for a 5th wheel? Thanks Buddy!!!! You the best!!!!!!
Im getting a Bluetti AC200 it has 1700WH for Solar and 2000 Inverter and the best part it can be run inside the trailer with no noise weighs maybe 58lbs
Josh based on your coverage of Travel Trailers, which ones in your opinion would be best just from a boon docking perspective (i.e. from the electrical side) as most have same water tank size. Thank You.
How big a trailer are we talking? Cougars have done a good job at increasing tank sizes, but so has Apex. Eagles can have huge fresh/grey/black ratings As always, there's no "here's the best" answer to this stuff. That's why we carry so many brands. Chat with our team and let us know what you're seeking ot accomplish & we can zero in on some options. Something like a wolf pack has 100gal fresh usually. I think there's more opportunities here than perhaps you realized.
Thanks for a video, I have a question, I have 2019 coleman rv 2850,, I want to know the Nature generator elite solar system 3,600 watts, I can use for refrigerator, TV and lights? ,, thanks from Puerto Rico
Hey Josh, TY soooo much for this video! My hubby & I (in 4 years) will be retiring & are starting to look into the nitty gritty of RVing. We'll be Snowbirds, driving from Nova Scotia to boondock in beautiful Arizona. That's the plan for now, anyway. haha! (Possibly on our coast too in Florida). *The thing is....that a/c is gonna be a thing I imagine we'll need for that. :) -I know the price will be different in Canada, but can you tell me how much the dual 2000's are and approx. the lifespan of them? That would be the only thing we feel we'd need a generator for....and maybe some coffee and maybe not evan all at once. haha....likely Quarzite has a coffee shop somewhere too. lol...But yes, the a/c is of prime importance as is this incredibly helpful, useful video. TY again!
Apologies - I'm not back by gens often and don't have a good feel for how much they run. I think some may be bumped to 2200's now but the same basic idea of being able to operate in tandem applies
You may find by adding a soft start kit you can get by with that existing generator just fine. Usually it's just the startup spike that requires a bigger gen. Smaller gens will RUN a large air just fine -- they just can't always start them without help
I run my 15k AC unit with a Generac 3000 power surge generator. Running watts are 2400 with the 3000 being the surge. After the initial start up surge the generator revs down and runs the AC with no problem for hours. Granted I have to turn off the AC to run say the microwave or the coffee pot but in general I can run everything else with the AC on. In the cooler months I take my Generac iQ2000 generator for running everything I need including the coffee pot.
Does a 4500 starting watts and 3700 running watts a good buy? I am looking at a Westinghouse 4500 for my horse trailer. I have 13,500 watt A/C, not on a thermostat, coffee pot in the morning, and tv. I sometimes use my microwave too. I run frig off of gas and my water heater is gas.
I apologize for asking a question on a two year old video but it looks like a lot of the "rv" inverter generators use what looks like 30 amp twist lock. This isn't what the power cable is from my rv. Do they make adapters or dog bones for this? As always thank you so much for these videos I love them!
I have a Pulsar 4000/3200 watt inverter generator that will run the AC with no problems. This unit is charging my batteries (20kwh) right now. I really like this machine. And i got a decent deal on it.
I know a fellow who assumed that, because his AC used 1800 watts, getting a 2000 watt generator was a good idea. Apparently he was unaware of how much gas you use when you max out your generator's power all the time (after all, he also liked to have lights on, the stereo, that sort of thing), and how short the gen set's lifespan is when you run it on max all the time. In time, he burned his generator out...
What's funny is depending on how old your camper is it likely already has a soft start built in. MOST RVs did for decades. Only recently did the A/C builders start removing them to bring costs down. Now suddenly they're being put back in like it's new technology.
Haylett RV like you said tho I run the fridge on propane and couldn’t use any other high amp appliance while running the air but the little Honda 2200 gets the job done without issue and that huge cause it’s so light and portable. And with the propane conversion I don’t have to worry about gas. It’s awesome
My plan: 2000 watt hybrid inverter with generator support, 300 AH ( or more ) lithium battery, a 2000 watt quiet generator. When I head out more full time, three 200 watt solar panels on the roof.
In regards to some of the larger private bunkhouse travel trailers, would it be possible to install something like an integrated Onan? I'm sure someone somewhere has done it but I would love to hear your thoughts on the practicality of it. Along those lines, I have always been curious as to why generators are are included on most class A's and C's and many fifth wheels but not on travel trailers.
The answer to "why do they do [anything]" is because "that's what sells most of the time." Though it may be useful to you or common in your region the vast overwhelming majority of trailer owners do not need a generator. It's thousands of extra dollars of expense for which they'd receive no significant benefit. That's why there's no allowance for it in the mainstream market. It's more common on toy haulers and RVs built with off-grid and boon dock friendly intentions. You find those features on motorhomes mostly due to the expectations of motorhome buyers as well as the larger budget on motorized models. You don't "feel" the cost of the generator near as obviously as you would on a trailer that is far, far less expensive.
I have a 5th wheel 2 AC units would wonder if 2 3k invertor generators would do the trick to use the camper for normal use, also is there a suck parallel kit with a 50 amp outlet to plug the shoreline into? Thanks for any and all info and help.
Hi Josh, Great Video, I have an Imagine 22MLE, 15K BTU A/C, 12V fridge, & the TV. I am looking at the Champion 4000 201050 (Dual Fuel) RV ready (30A RV plug) portable invertor generator. I will add the soft start kit to the A/C. Should the champion handle the load????
I bought a Caterpillar 1.5MW 2 which weighs 47.000 lbs. Do you think me and my wife could lift this onto a trailer? I will be using a 2008 Yugo for towing, will this be a problem?
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bought a Cooleman Rubicon 1200RK. has a 5000 btu ac and 1800 wat electric fireplace/ heater. what size generator do you suggest? is there a propane generator available?
Is it difficult to retrofit a motor home Onan generator to a travel trailer? My brother has one out of his totaled MH and says I can have it if I want it.
I can't even begin to answer this without more specific information. You need to try to get information locally from someone who can actually see the physical units in question.
josh #r.v.nered] am going to get a genratior for my r.v. )] dry wight little over 3,000 ([ i got a ford 150 truck ]) and am thinkn to mount it to the 6 foot bed in middle ] does that make sence??) were would i buy cover ] what genarater ([ powerwise ]) would you recamend buying ]) thanks for all your help and wisdom to the r.v nation ] 👏👏]
I have a 2016 Jayco Eagle 318RETS 50 amp trailer it has two air conditioners units installed I probably won't be using both units at the same time when boon docking but I would like to at least use one as well as maybe the coffee pot or Microwave without shutting off the air conditioner just to use the say coffee pot or Microwave then turn the unit back on. What portable generator would you recommend to get? without shutting down the air conditioner. Thank you
Probably something in the 3500 minimum range, though 4000+ (or combos totaling 4,000+) would likely be more assured depending on the exact power draw of some appliances.
You really know what you’re talking about, and I need help, I just purchased a Bushwacker teardrop trailer 20 2210 HD, and I’m looking for the smallest quietest generator that I can use mainly if I run the air conditioning and while I’m running the heater apparently the fan I was told can drain the system all these electrical things are new to me I don’t understand it do you have a recommendation basically I go deep in the back country with my dog and will camp and hike for about a week and I don’t want to kill the battery again this is all foreign to me and I don’t know what to get or what to do I’m also looking for some type of portable hot water heater instant heater that I can take exterior shower I do have a water tank on the trailer it’s over I think 24 gallons so I have enough water any advice would be great I really appreciate your thorough video that was awesome it’s taught me a lot but I still have a long ways to go to learn👍👍👍
Apologies I don’t really have a good grasp of exactly which generators can power which units but I know there’s only run a side air conditioner. You may try to visit a place that has a few test demo generators on hand and bring your RV to see what might work. I would be surprised if you need it much more than a 2000.
Josh, you need to do some research on a product called MicroAir Easy start. It is NOT a cheap hard start capacitor. It is a computer controlled device that actually learns the startup load that an AC unit requires, then calculates and applies the power as needed during the initial load. It allows for a 2500 watt generator to start up a13.5k btu AC, AND a 15k btu, with ease. It is easy to install, and is the perfect solution.
There are a *lot* of solutions to things like this. My goal with this video was to help people build a basic understanding of things they could grow upon.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would not recommend a hard start kit only because they don't *always* solve the start up problem. Hard start kits don't reduce the start up voltage - they reduce the time of the start up, which sometimes helps if you get lucky with the right compressor + generator combo. Richard's suggestion of a soft-start kit is almost a sure thing. It's just much more expensive but hands down the best solution. MicroAir is a great vendor, IMHO.
Here are portable generator safety rules: this safety information is only for anyone who use a portable gas generator and for those who are planning on getting a portable gas generator. This is just a reminder for everyone’s safety. All generator safety rules should be followed carefully. This advice is just to make sure that everyone is aware of all the warnings and it’s just to remind people to be careful using portable generators. Generators can be dangerous if not used carefully. Every year, hundreds of people die or get injured when using portable generators due to carbon monoxide poisoning and electrocution. Make sure you are using your generator carefully and keeping others safe as well. There is something very serious that everyone should always be aware of when using generators. Some people do run their generator indoors which is not safe and that increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning which can cause death of family and you. Some people run their generator in wet conditions which can electrocute them. Please remember that you should never run your generator indoors. Remember that carbon monoxide is an odorless and colorless gas that you cannot see or smell. Carbon monoxide is a silent killer. Keep that in mind. Make sure your generator is 15-20 feet away from your house and away from doors, windows, and vents. Never use your generator in your porch too. Having a carbon monoxide detector is very important against generator safety. Some people also allow children to go near the portable generator which could pose risks. We need to keep an eye on our children making sure that they are not near the portable generator so they won’t get electrocuted or burned by the generator which is dangerous. A locking enclosure also keeps kids safe. A generator shed might look like a tempting place to explore, or take cover during a game of hide and seek, but a generator is a dangerous piece of equipment that can cause injury. It says on the manual that we should also keep children away at all times from the portable generator to avoid injuries. Please do not allow a child or unqualified people to operate the portable generator. It is important to keep your children safe especially little ones. The portable generator can be hot during an operation. Just because some manuals missed what should be listed doesn’t mean it’s safe to do. Always follow the generator safety rules when using portable generators. Generators pose electrical risks. If you need to use your generator during wet weather, you need a generator tent to protect your generator from getting wet. Don’t let your generator get wet. Keep your generator dry and before using your generator, please make sure your hands and your generator is dry. Do not wear loose clothing when operating the generator. Everything that is said on the generator’s operating manual should not be ignored. Never smoke cigarettes near the generator. Please keep flammable things away from the generator. Never overload your generator too. Your generator can catch fire. Never ever try to plug a generator cord into a wall outlet to avoid back feeding. Back feeding your generator is dangerous. Always turn on your generator first before plugging in appliances and shut off the appliances before turning your generator off. Use a heavy duty cord for your generator and the cord should not be worn out. All the instructions should be followed carefully. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. It can cause fire if fuel spills while your generator is hot. You should turn off your generator and let it cool off before refueling it. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important. This is only a reminder for everyone’s safety of using generators. Make sure your generator is properly grounded. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the safety rules. czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. Hope this helps. Thank you.
Dealers don't build the RVs & no such option typically exists from the MFGs. The majority of people are not in need of the component, but we can easily add a soft start to a customer's A/C unit as needed.
Josh I realize that but you would think Coleman and the other Mfgs would build it into their units at the factory as the cost is pretty small and for you dealers it would make a great selling feature.
@@bobmakowski7627 You don't realize that's actually how things were for about 40+ years. In the past several seasons A/C builders stopped including the soft start capacitor in their designs to price cut one another. It was never the MFG who did/didn't include the feature in their A/C systems. Suddenly A/C brands began to offer "Soft Start A/C Systems" like it's new technology when in reality it's just marketing applied to the reintroduction of a basic component.
Question... Instead of using two 2,000 watt generators, is it possible to parallel-connect a 2,000 watt unit with a 3,000 watt unit (creating 5,000 total watts) Will that work ???
Without having a better idea of how/where/what/how often I wouldn't even begin to know how to answer your question. It's a highly specific thing you're requesting here so we need specific information. I've seen RV generators with thousands of hours on them by the way. Take care of the generator and it will take care of you.
I'm getting a '23 Super Duty to carry my Artic Fox Truck Camper. I ordered the truck with a 2K Pro Power Onboard. Will that generator start and run the 11K BTU Air Conditioner that comes on the AF?
What you have today is the all new inverter which is a rectifier to convert the AC to DC and thus you have a " Generator ". If you have only AC, then you have an " Alternator ".
I think that inverter is the key word. If you ever use a UPS (uninterruptible power supply) for a computer to generate 120v AC from batteries when the power fails that is half the situation. The small gas engine spins a generator producing DC. This is fed to an inverter circuit that produces AC from a transistor oscillator and transformer circuit. This is more efficient and allows for a smaller engine so it’s quieter. It’s also a lot more complicated. It’s lighter than a large conventional alternator.
Probably either tandem 2000's (or 2200's as i think they are now) or a single 3500+. Best advisory is to get your trailer somewhere that has generators to test real quick
I mean.. you could move up here! lol A little colder perhaps, but we don't get 6,000% humidity either Warning: We do lack Publix here which is the categorically superior shopping experience * Walk In * Order Custom Baked Potato * Go Shopping * Collect Potato on the way out * Potato Cools on the Drive Home * Devour Potato once home * Nap
I'm guessing you boondock more exclusively? I think you're the first person to ask me about a 2nd generator actually.. I have no brand to which I'm super specific or passionate about when it comes to generators. It really is a matter of what you want to do with it and what systems your RV needs I know that's not really helpful but without the frame of reference it's hard to know what to suggest
Thank you for the video. Just a couple of things for your viewers, research the exact generator and know your a/c unit. For example, there are other videos where someone can't run diddly on a 3400 watt propane generator, and another one where someone runs a 15K btu with a Firman 3300 watt without any soft start stuff added to the a/c. I think one of the best resources for gen set comparison is Long Long Honeymoon, where they seem to be able to run their 13.5K btu a/c and other appliances pretty well with the 3,000 watt category.
Something to keep in mind with the dual 2000 watt generators, is you will be doing routine maintenance on two generators instead of one. So if you are like me and you'd rather go to the dentist than perform yearly lawn mower engine maintenance, then maybe two generators will take the "recreation" out of Recreational Vehicle.
All great points & 100% accurate. I hoped to give people a solid generalized base of knowledge they could use to grow on, but this is awesome advanced info for those looking to know a little more.
I asked our service team what's one thing they wish they could get more customers to understand. The overwhelming consensus was "I wish people would take more personal responsibility in learning and knowing their own camper. It would do them so many favors and save them a lot of money."
Of course, the maintenance flip side is that two are unlikely to fail simultaneously, so when something goes wrong you can still run everything but AC, so that may balance it out.
Great info. I also wondered about the size of the fuel tank on the smaller 2k generator vs a larger 3500 or 4k. Runtime between fill ups is also a consideration when boondocking.
You can only run one (sometimes 2) but a micro start (soft start) on your AC up to 15K and you can get by on a 50# 2K generator. I’ve done this for several years, it will run my microwave and coffee pot at the same time. I got to old to heft any of the 3K plus gen sets.
We opted for 2 smaller generators because I don't want to have to lift a large generator in and out of the back of our truck at a dog show. I'd much rather deal with two small ones.
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
Not if it’s the proper type of generator to provide power to an RV
What brand and size do I get? I m just buying a 23 ft. 5000 bound. For ac/ heat and hot water heater, 1 TV, fridge? What would be ur choice and where do I get it and how much.? Lol this is my first at camping. Well I'm gonna live in it
Every time I think of something I need to understand to prepare for my trailer, I search to see if you have anything on it, and yep here you are again!!! Cheers
We have used the czcams.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
Yeah in a pinch if the power goes out it's nice to have one on hand
Great video as always Josh A few points to add. In some states (like NY) our state camp grounds have generator hours which typically are 9-11am 4-7pm. So if you plan on doing lots of state camping in this case running the AC in the summer becomes a challenge so keep that in mind as well when buying a generator. We have a small 2200 unit to keep everything topped off but with limited hours cooling may be challenging if you have a big unit depending on your campground. So point here is before buying one is figure out what type of camping you will be doing. I know people that only go to full hookups, I also know people like myself that do all state camping no hookups and then there are folks that go on land and camp with no restrictions. Just a few things to keep in mind so you don't end up spending lots of money on something you can only use at specific times. Depending on the type of camping spending the money on a battery bank or extra batteries with a solar panel might be better. Really depends on the user. Just wanted to share some thoughts on stuff I know I didn't think about when buying mine. Happy camping
Great feedback. TY for contributing
Very good video, I have a Firman 3300. It has 3000 running watts and when starting up our 13k btu a/c the idle does max out and then settles. You are so right in that aspect and a e-z start for my a/c would be helpfull. I can run a/c and refrigerator on electric but wouldn't try no other appliances. Love the video and thank you for sharing. Happy camping😊
Owner feedback like this is always the best! Thanks so much for sharing for everyone!
Great information, I and my wife have been watching you for a few months now as we save and decided on what we want in a small couples camper for our small family. You constantly speak about the starter packs in your walk through videos that you guys (include?) With each new purchase. I have seen the informative videos you have done on the recommend items such as surge protector, water pressure valve, water hose, ect. But I haven't seen anything about a full starter pack and everything that may or may not be included with it. Thanks for the great information, videos and honesty.
All new RV pricing at our facility includes:
* 1 or 2 batteries depending on the size/needs of the RV
* Propane tank purge & Fill
* Cleaning inside and out
* Showing you how to work the camper
* Water Pressure limiter
* Electric Surge Protector (30 or 50 amp as required)
* 30 to 15amp reducers (and 50amp if appropriate for the RV)
* basic water/sewer hose & tank treatments
All the essentials you and the trailer *definitely* need to get started. Beyond that each person's "need" varies as a matter of camping style and preference. We make sure you have the basics covered.
I run two 3500 watt Predators with a 50 amp parallel kit to run both my a/c. It an option for the big 50 amp rigs.
Great video. One thing to mention is a inverter generator is much more quite than a regular generator and a little more money but worth it
We have a 36' toy hauler with two 15btu AC units and a built in 5500 Onan. We live in Arizona and even summer dry camping will work comfortably with both ac/units. However, the Generator eats lots of gas. For winter dry camping when we don't need A/C, we have three work arounds so as not to use the "big" Onan. First is a roof mounted 160 Solar unit to keep our two 6volt golf cart batteries topped off if we have sun. Second is a 3000 watt inverter which will allow a for some late night TV and early morning coffee from battery power, with no generator use. Finally we have a small, 1250 watt WEN Generator. While the Yamaha and Honda generators are great, they are expensive. The little 1250 watt WEN is small, light, quiet and sips gas. It will run a coffee pot or our tv and keep our batteries topped off. Best of all they are about $300 and ours has worked flawlessly for about 400 hours so far.
Bill Pahl I use a 2K Wen with a micro start on the AC. It sounds like you have a nice setup.
Excellent video. RE: AC and portable generators I’d add if your gen has econo-throttle feature that allows the engine to throttle back when there is no load, turn that off when running the AC. It takes the engine up to a second to rev up when a load is detected, and ac compressors do not like voltage droop.
Also if your gen struggles with the AC, make sure the fridge is on LP mode and not auto, and temporarily shut off the breaker for the RV’s converter/charger. Turn it back on later when it cools off to charge the batteries if needed.
The converter can pull a couple hundred watts depending on battery state.
Personally I use an RV to go ATVing, trip to the coast, and other activities and I’m gone during the day. If it’s 112f out in the desert, I’d be up in the high mountains or at the coast where it’s cooler. Even if I go where there is a power hookup, I don’t want to have to sit in the RV hiding from the heat
I have a Champion 3500 watt dual-fuel inverter generator running a 15000 BTU Dometic air conditioner with a hard start installed and it works great.
Champion makes some of the best generators of them all- totally dependable, with even the most basic (or no) maintenance.
I use the harbor freight 3200 running,4000 peak to run my air conditioner, tv, charger for phones, and tablet and it does just fine. I also have a 100' extension cord, 8 gauge wire, with the 30 amp plugs so I can put the generator in an area that absorbs the sound.
Hello, thank you for the great video and great information. My situation is a little bit different as I own a much older "canned ham" style camper which currently has a 5000btu window A/C unit in it. I would like to upgrade to a 8000btu as the 5000btu can struggle to keep the small camper cool if we're in direct sunlight. I was looking at some of the smaller generators because I don't feel like I need a huge amount of power. My camper is 14ft and pretty much just runs lights, 2 mini fridges and of course the A/C. I'm a single parent and am working with a budget so I need something economical and price friendly. I have used my dads 5500 watt generator to go boondocking, but as you said it's more trouble loading it in and out and storing it than it's worth. I to also usually run some string light around the outside of the camper at night when the A/C isn't having to work as hard. Would for example the ryobi 1800 watt running 2300watt start up inverter generator work for my needs, or should I save a little more and jump up to a 3400watt inverter generator? Any information from anyone would be of great help. Besides the afore - mentioned electronics we sometimes use a small 24"tv and blu-ray player, and phone chargers. Most of our time is spent outdoors fishing or that sort of thing. Also I wanted to mention I don't have any pumps for water or anything like that. None of that stuff is hooked up in my camper, it's very primitive.
Great video and also also a great comment by Mr. Greg Hall.
Josh, once again You've made a complicated subject like generators so easy to understand. Thanks
I try! Ty
Thanks Josh. I have waited a long time for someone to talk about this.
Video is now a bit dated but generally holds up
Thank you for your video. Your insights into RVs help me to take more direct courses into maintenance and getting the most out of my RV. Just finished watching the video about RV refrigerators.
I have a Sportsman dual fuel generator 7500 (LP and gas). I know it's a hoss of a generator, but I believe it to be user friendly and will power anything I need it for.
Does it provide clean power? “Sine wave” output?
Some generators will wreck a trailer’s elec systems
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I haven't put a tester to it. I wouldn't know how to test for that. It powers my RV without any struggle.
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When we bought our used RV the fridge didn't last long. we bought a residential fridge and installed it. Wished now we'd bought a electric/LP fridge.
Your video on the different types of fridges made me consider a 12vdc fridge. Maybe we can afford one soon.
Josh, how about a little instructional vid on generators and how to use them in wet lousy weather for travel trailers and fifth wheels.
Thanks for the simple explanation. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks man. great video
You make this so simple, the same with the vid on batteries! And I’m an electrician ! Thank you!
High praise. TY Chuck :)
Great advice. This answered a lot of questions I had.
Glad it was helpful! If you haven't, then be sure to sub-up and stay up to date on stuff as we roll content out!
A couple of points I didn't hear you mention. First, a 2000w generator likely only provides 1600 "running" watts. Second, for every 1000' of elevation, you lose 3.5% of potential output. Lastly, another hidden big draw is your Charge Convertor that charges your house batteries when connected to shore power or a generator. Also, getting a Micro-Air "Easy Start" allows you to run 13,500 and even 15k BTU AC units with simply one Honda 2000 at around 3,000' elevation. I installed them on both my trailers and ran my AC for about 30 minutes with no problem. I did turn off my Charge Controller, however.
Awesome video. The wife and went with a pair of 2000w inverter Champion generators. We went that way because we had the 4000w open frame/construction generator and it was loud and very heavy. We also came across some Campground do not allow those type because of the noise pollution they put out.
I was thinking about buying and connecting two 2500 generator/inverters but was concerned about the noise. I know that one alone is 54 Db but I don't how much louder adding a second would be. What has been your experience? Thanks
Josh, Thank you for these videos. You are very knowledgeable! Love your info!
One 2,000 watt generator (Harbor Freight-Predator) is great for Led lights, fans, pumps, & recharging devices. I live in the northeast & our campgrounds generally have trees for shade. I’ve only used my air conditioner once in the 3 years I’ve had it....everything else we use propane.
Thanks for sharing!
Great break down! Two 2k watt Honda generators should do it! Thanks! 💯❗✊😄
Nice helpful video. Can you or one your Yamaha U guys show some generators and possibly do a noise test? I see videos of people talking about sizes and noise but don’t see many videos demonstrating it. 2k vs 3k vs 4K vs built in 5k, etc...
I'm looking at the Westinghouse igen df 4500. I have a 50 amp rv but only ever use one ac.
just got an EU 3000is honda inverter/gen and going to install the microair easy start for our AC on our Revel Sprinter and I am doing a trifuel conversion on the generator.
Sounds awesome! Have fun!
I was thinking about getting an inverter, instead of a generator because I have batteries anyway, but now I don't need to have gas cans as well. In your years of doing this, which is better for long term camping (2 weeks plus).
More Sound Advice. Thank you for your honestly, 30 AMP isn't really 30 AMP. We were work Camping in Yellowstone when an heavy April snow storm took down the AC power. The neighbors furnace failed them, so our 30 amp generator powered his electric heater and our entire 5th wheel equipped with a small electric heater. All was well until my wife started the Micro Wave. (mid-summer one of the stores lost power for 2 days and our little generator saved all of the ice cream in their 120acV freezer. We were rewarded with Drumsticks)
Josh one thing if people are using a generator to power there camper is not start the ac at 70 degrees start it at 85 degrees then gradually go colder just like fans even the hot water tank start the water temp at a lower temp then gradually raise it cause some generators don't have a ground fault circuit interrupter or a voltage regulator and causing the generator circuit breaker to fail prematurely and cause a fire
Thank you Josh for all your great videos. I just take a look at this one because i'm waiting for a new F-150 with 2kw generator onboard. I was asking myself if it will be enough to power the 13.5 ac in my travel trailer. If i run all other things on propane do you think it'll do the job.
A 2kw gen usually needs to be paired with soft start A/C units
But with a soft start & possibly a power saver air unit I think you'd be good
Harbor freight predator 3500 inverter generator runs my 2019 micro Minnie. I can have 15k btu ac on, all lights on, TV, fridge on and no issues. I’m sure I could do the microwave but I never use it. I bought the 2 yr warranty about $850+ tax, but I have 20 hours on it no issues so far
Those predators are pound for pound about the best offering out there I think
From Aussie great info .... well presented .. and not music to talk over ... liked
The easy start AC unit module is pretty much a capacitor that will take the blunt of the start rather than the generator or even park power.
You should also mention that people should not use construction generators at campsite. People get them because they are cheap and have high wattage, but they are super loud and ruin the camping experience for everyone in the area. Some campsites and parks also ban these generators and have certain noise standards as to what models are allowed.
*EXCELLENT POINT!* You shouldn't use those not just for noise reasons, but the fact that they don't provide clean, even power to the RV and run a very real risk of basically frying stuff. Inverter generators are the only way to go.
@@JoshtheRVNerd - Not entirely accurate. Champion's open frame generators provide very clean, very even power. Yes, they are also incredibly noisy, But- if you get an auxiliary muffler (and, if you can, an external housing), then you can get the noise down to that of- or less than- the average inverter unit, often for a fraction of what you'd spend on some of the more expensive inverters. I've run a setup like that for several years- and, yes, every once in a while, someone will complain- but those are the people who complain about Any generator.
Some people think that any generator at all ruins their camping experience. To each their own
I have both kinds of Predator generators. One is stable on my own site. I still couldn't take the noise. I made a dog house type insulated box w removable lid for service. Awww, the relief!!!!!!!!!!
I have a Predator 3500 Inverter generator to power my Coachmen Apex Nano 208BHS travel trailer. It works great, but I need to be sure not to run the AC and microwave at the same time.
Josh I know this is a older vid but it's a "golden oldie" How do you recommend using a portable gen when it's raining outside? The whole idea of water and electric still scares the bajeebers out of me ;) Do you let them out to run in wet weather? In the back end of a pick-up with a camper shell back door up (for travel trailers) okay? What about for a 5th wheel? Thanks Buddy!!!! You the best!!!!!!
I understand the fear. It depends on the generator. Some are made to run in all weather. Some are not.
Best video I have seen for RV generator info for those of us how need simple terms. 😂
It's slightly outdated now but a lot of the same principles still apply
Im getting a Bluetti AC200 it has 1700WH for Solar and 2000 Inverter and the best part it can be run inside the trailer with no noise weighs maybe 58lbs
Josh based on your coverage of Travel Trailers, which ones in your opinion would be best just from a boon docking perspective (i.e. from the electrical side) as most have same water tank size. Thank You.
How big a trailer are we talking? Cougars have done a good job at increasing tank sizes, but so has Apex. Eagles can have huge fresh/grey/black ratings
As always, there's no "here's the best" answer to this stuff. That's why we carry so many brands. Chat with our team and let us know what you're seeking ot accomplish & we can zero in on some options.
Something like a wolf pack has 100gal fresh usually. I think there's more opportunities here than perhaps you realized.
Thanks for a video, I have a question, I have 2019 coleman rv 2850,, I want to know the Nature generator elite solar system 3,600 watts, I can use for refrigerator, TV and lights? ,, thanks from Puerto Rico
Hey Josh, TY soooo much for this video! My hubby & I (in 4 years) will be retiring & are starting to look into the nitty gritty of RVing. We'll be Snowbirds, driving from Nova Scotia to boondock in beautiful Arizona. That's the plan for now, anyway. haha! (Possibly on our coast too in Florida). *The thing is....that a/c is gonna be a thing I imagine we'll need for that. :) -I know the price will be different in Canada, but can you tell me how much the dual 2000's are and approx. the lifespan of them? That would be the only thing we feel we'd need a generator for....and maybe some coffee and maybe not evan all at once. haha....likely Quarzite has a coffee shop somewhere too. lol...But yes, the a/c is of prime importance as is this incredibly helpful, useful video. TY again!
Apologies - I'm not back by gens often and don't have a good feel for how much they run. I think some may be bumped to 2200's now but the same basic idea of being able to operate in tandem applies
Hey josh ... I have an eu 2000 . Was thinking about buying bigger to run A/C .. great video..
You may find by adding a soft start kit you can get by with that existing generator just fine. Usually it's just the startup spike that requires a bigger gen. Smaller gens will RUN a large air just fine -- they just can't always start them without help
Haylett RV Reviews, News, & More O .... okay start kit for my eu ?? And what kit ?
I run my 15k AC unit with a Generac 3000 power surge generator. Running watts are 2400 with the 3000 being the surge. After the initial start up surge the generator revs down and runs the AC with no problem for hours. Granted I have to turn off the AC to run say the microwave or the coffee pot but in general I can run everything else with the AC on. In the cooler months I take my Generac iQ2000 generator for running everything I need including the coffee pot.
this is great. ty
Is a 3750 running watt generator good foe 1500 watt heater and 65 inch smart tv and dish box and two lights and older fridge with no problems.
Very good info. Answered my question in plain english. Thanks! Bravo!
Glad it was helpful!
Does a 4500 starting watts and 3700 running watts a good buy? I am looking at a Westinghouse 4500 for my horse trailer. I have 13,500 watt A/C, not on a thermostat, coffee pot in the morning, and tv. I sometimes use my microwave too. I run frig off of gas and my water heater is gas.
I apologize for asking a question on a two year old video but it looks like a lot of the "rv" inverter generators use what looks like 30 amp twist lock. This isn't what the power cable is from my rv. Do they make adapters or dog bones for this? As always thank you so much for these videos I love them!
No apologies needed! There’s an entire world of adapters out there including the one you need
This was exactly what I was looking for.. great info thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Pulsar 4000/3200 watt inverter generator that will run the AC with no problems. This unit is charging my batteries (20kwh) right now. I really like this machine. And i got a decent deal on it.
sounds nice!
I know a fellow who assumed that, because his AC used 1800 watts, getting a 2000 watt generator was a good idea. Apparently he was unaware of how much gas you use when you max out your generator's power all the time (after all, he also liked to have lights on, the stereo, that sort of thing), and how short the gen set's lifespan is when you run it on max all the time. In time, he burned his generator out...
Great feedback from a real world example!
my honda 2200i runs my 13,500 ac just fine. no issues and without the soft start.
What's funny is depending on how old your camper is it likely already has a soft start built in. MOST RVs did for decades. Only recently did the A/C builders start removing them to bring costs down.
Now suddenly they're being put back in like it's new technology.
Haylett RV like you said tho I run the fridge on propane and couldn’t use any other high amp appliance while running the air but the little Honda 2200 gets the job done without issue and that huge cause it’s so light and portable. And with the propane conversion I don’t have to worry about gas. It’s awesome
My plan: 2000 watt hybrid inverter with generator support, 300 AH ( or more ) lithium battery, a 2000 watt quiet generator. When I head out more full time, three 200 watt solar panels on the roof.
In regards to some of the larger private bunkhouse travel trailers, would it be possible to install something like an integrated Onan? I'm sure someone somewhere has done it but I would love to hear your thoughts on the practicality of it.
Along those lines, I have always been curious as to why generators are are included on most class A's and C's and many fifth wheels but not on travel trailers.
The answer to "why do they do [anything]" is because "that's what sells most of the time." Though it may be useful to you or common in your region the vast overwhelming majority of trailer owners do not need a generator. It's thousands of extra dollars of expense for which they'd receive no significant benefit. That's why there's no allowance for it in the mainstream market.
It's more common on toy haulers and RVs built with off-grid and boon dock friendly intentions.
You find those features on motorhomes mostly due to the expectations of motorhome buyers as well as the larger budget on motorized models. You don't "feel" the cost of the generator near as obviously as you would on a trailer that is far, far less expensive.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks as always for the reply.
I have a 5th wheel 2 AC units would wonder if 2 3k invertor generators would do the trick to use the camper for normal use, also is there a suck parallel kit with a 50 amp outlet to plug the shoreline into? Thanks for any and all info and help.
We'd need to know more about your specific hardware in question. One of our parts team could assist perhaps
Thank you for the great information
Right on with 2 2000 parallel
Hi Josh, Great Video, I have an Imagine 22MLE, 15K BTU A/C, 12V fridge, & the TV. I am looking at the Champion 4000 201050 (Dual Fuel) RV ready (30A RV plug) portable invertor generator. I will add the soft start kit to the A/C. Should the champion handle the load????
Probably but I’m not well educated on generators. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t work out
I bought a Caterpillar 1.5MW 2 which weighs 47.000 lbs. Do you think me and my wife could lift this onto a trailer? I will be using a 2008 Yugo for towing, will this be a problem?
are dual fuel generators (gas/propane) worth the extra cost? especially for something like a Geo Pro or a smaller Mini Lite?
You're paying for the convenience. The value of the extra cost is justified via personal preference.
Dude, your keyboard is insane. 🤣
Takes the pressure off my wrists. I have years upon years of time logged sitting at keyboards. Little things like ergonomic mice/keyboards/wrist strap have allowed me to avoid things like surgery
I run 13.5 with a soft start with a single Honda 2200.
No need to lug around a 3000 or bigger generator.
bought a Cooleman Rubicon 1200RK. has a 5000 btu ac and 1800 wat electric fireplace/ heater. what size generator do you suggest? is there a propane generator available?
The 5500 watt is the way to go, plus you can start it from inside.
Great informational video. I just learned a lot about which generator I might need. Thank You.
Could you recommend a trailer rack that could accommodate a generator.
Our parts team at 800-256-5196 is best equipped to assist you with this one. Thanks for watching!!
A very good explanation, well done!
TY
Is it difficult to retrofit a motor home Onan generator to a travel trailer? My brother has one out of his totaled MH and says I can have it if I want it.
I can't even begin to answer this without more specific information. You need to try to get information locally from someone who can actually see the physical units in question.
Can I use the television with a 2K generator? Thanks for the tip...
Shouldn't be an issue
josh #r.v.nered] am going to get a genratior for my r.v. )] dry wight little over 3,000 ([ i got a ford 150 truck ]) and am thinkn to mount it to the 6 foot bed in middle ] does that make sence??) were would i buy cover ] what genarater ([ powerwise ]) would you recamend buying ]) thanks for all your help and wisdom to the r.v nation ] 👏👏]
not 100% following you here. Try giving our parts team a call and perhaps they can help you. Phone chatting might be more clear.
How many watts does a 13MBH 120V A/C unit need?
I have a 2016 Jayco Eagle 318RETS 50 amp trailer it has two air conditioners units installed I probably won't be using both units at the same time when boon docking but I would like to at least use one as well as maybe the coffee pot or Microwave without shutting off the air conditioner just to use the say coffee pot or Microwave then turn the unit back on. What portable generator would you recommend to get? without shutting down the air conditioner. Thank you
Probably something in the 3500 minimum range, though 4000+ (or combos totaling 4,000+) would likely be more assured depending on the exact power draw of some appliances.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you very much, greatly appreciated, Your videos are very informative that's how I found your you tube channel.
You really know what you’re talking about, and I need help, I just purchased a Bushwacker teardrop trailer 20 2210 HD, and I’m looking for the smallest quietest generator that I can use mainly if I run the air conditioning and while I’m running the heater apparently the fan I was told can drain the system all these electrical things are new to me I don’t understand it do you have a recommendation basically I go deep in the back country with my dog and will camp and hike for about a week and I don’t want to kill the battery again this is all foreign to me and I don’t know what to get or what to do I’m also looking for some type of portable hot water heater instant heater that I can take exterior shower I do have a water tank on the trailer it’s over I think 24 gallons so I have enough water any advice would be great I really appreciate your thorough video that was awesome it’s taught me a lot but I still have a long ways to go to learn👍👍👍
Apologies I don’t really have a good grasp of exactly which generators can power which units but I know there’s only run a side air conditioner. You may try to visit a place that has a few test demo generators on hand and bring your RV to see what might work. I would be surprised if you need it much more than a 2000.
Will a 1000w inverter generator be enough for just keeping my 2 group 24 batteries charged?
Probably. Again, I'm not a super generator specialist.
Josh, you need to do some research on a product called MicroAir Easy start. It is NOT a cheap hard start capacitor. It is a computer controlled device that actually learns the startup load that an AC unit requires, then calculates and applies the power as needed during the initial load. It allows for a 2500 watt generator to start up a13.5k btu AC, AND a 15k btu, with ease. It is easy to install, and is the perfect solution.
There are a *lot* of solutions to things like this. My goal with this video was to help people build a basic understanding of things they could grow upon.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would not recommend a hard start kit only because they don't *always* solve the start up problem. Hard start kits don't reduce the start up voltage - they reduce the time of the start up, which sometimes helps if you get lucky with the right compressor + generator combo. Richard's suggestion of a soft-start kit is almost a sure thing. It's just much more expensive but hands down the best solution. MicroAir is a great vendor, IMHO.
Awesome advice 👍 learning alot
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Ac for 377 northpoint probably getting from you. Got 2 jackery for java etc.big large hairy dog. 6500 okay?
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Install the softstart for your AC's....Works wonders
Especially if a smaller generator size is desired. Definitely worth it
With a 4500 could I run my residential refrigerator and a 15k air conditioner ?
*Probably.* There are variances between generators, A/C units, and Fridges that make it difficult to answer that with 100% confidence.
Josh why dont dealers put soft start or something similar on Air Conditioners when they build them. To reduce the power needed by the generator.
Dealers don't build the RVs & no such option typically exists from the MFGs. The majority of people are not in need of the component, but we can easily add a soft start to a customer's A/C unit as needed.
Josh I realize that but you would think Coleman and the other Mfgs would build it into their units at the factory as the cost is pretty small and for you dealers it would make a great selling feature.
@@bobmakowski7627 You don't realize that's actually how things were for about 40+ years. In the past several seasons A/C builders stopped including the soft start capacitor in their designs to price cut one another. It was never the MFG who did/didn't include the feature in their A/C systems.
Suddenly A/C brands began to offer "Soft Start A/C Systems" like it's new technology when in reality it's just marketing applied to the reintroduction of a basic component.
Question...
Instead of using two 2,000 watt generators, is it possible to parallel-connect a 2,000 watt unit with a 3,000 watt unit (creating 5,000 total watts)
Will that work ???
No sir
Yes it will, if you get the right generators that support that feature. I think the Westinghouse generators let you do that.
Josh I want a backup generator for my motor home so as not to put all the hours on the one in my motor home what's the best cheapest
Without having a better idea of how/where/what/how often I wouldn't even begin to know how to answer your question. It's a highly specific thing you're requesting here so we need specific information.
I've seen RV generators with thousands of hours on them by the way. Take care of the generator and it will take care of you.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank You Josh, That gives me a peace of mind since we are first time RVR'S
Can you connect 2 3000 generators like you talked about 2, 2000's
What allows you to connect them is a parallel kit specific to the 2000 models. There may be a 3k parallel kit, but I'm not aware of one.
thanks mate 👍 just what i needed to hear 👌
Video's a _bit_ out of date now, but still fairly applicable
Again, good advice well said.
Thanks again!
I'm getting a '23 Super Duty to carry my Artic Fox Truck Camper. I ordered the truck with a 2K Pro Power Onboard. Will that generator start and run the 11K BTU Air Conditioner that comes on the AF?
Apologies Greg - I don't know units and power draws down to individual specificity
Well my 8550\6250 generator Ron my 50 amp 38 feet RV??
What you have today is the all new inverter which is a rectifier to convert the AC to DC and thus you have a
" Generator ". If you have only AC, then you have an " Alternator ".
I think that inverter is the key word. If you ever use a UPS (uninterruptible power supply) for a computer to generate 120v AC from batteries when the power fails that is half the situation. The small gas engine spins a generator producing DC. This is fed to an inverter circuit that produces AC from a transistor oscillator and transformer circuit. This is more efficient and allows for a smaller engine so it’s quieter. It’s also a lot more complicated. It’s lighter than a large conventional alternator.
I have a Laredo (2018) 225mk, it is wired for 50Amp, but has one 15000 btu ac. What would you recommend?
Probably either tandem 2000's (or 2200's as i think they are now) or a single 3500+. Best advisory is to get your trailer somewhere that has generators to test real quick
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks.
Thx for the great info.
Can you parallel 3 2000 watt generators?
Theoretically it would be possible, though I don't think any such wishbone kit exists.
I wish you lived 3000 miles closer to north west Georgia.
I mean.. you could move up here! lol
A little colder perhaps, but we don't get 6,000% humidity either
Warning: We do lack Publix here which is the categorically superior shopping experience
* Walk In
* Order Custom Baked Potato
* Go Shopping
* Collect Potato on the way out
* Potato Cools on the Drive Home
* Devour Potato once home
* Nap
I have an onboard 4000w onan. I was pondering buying a backup generator but not sure if needed to. Any suggestions please?
I'm guessing you boondock more exclusively?
I think you're the first person to ask me about a 2nd generator actually..
I have no brand to which I'm super specific or passionate about when it comes to generators. It really is a matter of what you want to do with it and what systems your RV needs
I know that's not really helpful but without the frame of reference it's hard to know what to suggest
Thank you this was help full
Excellent information.
Glad you think so