I just bought a machine like this called the total shop on marketplace. I can’t wait to use it. This video made it seem so easy to change the tools it’s going to be a big help!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Just picked up a late 70s-early 80s Shopsmith MKV and know absolutely nothing about woodworking. I love how whimsical this video feels and look forward to future videos!
My Dad bought a new Shopsmith in 1956. It is the machine I used as I learned woodworking in my younger years. When Dad passed I got the machine. I put new bearings in the headstock and motor in 2017. Since the newer base machines are the same as when the mark 5 was first introduced , all the table upgrades ( and associated safety upgrades) are available through Shopsmith or on the second hand market. If you have a small workshop this machine was made with you in mind. By the way, if you don’t have the owners manual it is still available through Shopsmith. It shows proper setup and alignment. It will be the best $30.00 investment you can make on this machine.
My goal is to retrofit the headstock to a power pro and upgrade the table, carrage, and other upgrades. Its why I started a gofundme. I have aligned it as best I can thanks to a shopsmith video on youtube.
@@thebeggarswoodshop8756 You will like the PowerPro. I got one over a year ago. As you already know the alignment is key to accuracy. I did a lot of work on the 500 tables but I must admit the new table system is nice. Good luck with your plans for the machine.
When my uncle passed away in the late '90's I got his Mark 5 (along with all his Shopsmith manuals!)... I was primarily interested in the lathe application to make my own instrument tuning pegs (Persian setar, kemancheh etc) but I mostly have used the drill press application as a horizontal drill press ... I haven't tried the table saw or even the lathe applications yet 😆 I know I'm under utilising it but frankly power tools with blades scare the b-jesus out of me!!
@@thebeggarswoodshop8756 Don't beg people. Find some simple projects you can make with it as is and sell it. Put that money towards up grading. If I was you I would search marketplace for a complete 510 it has a better motor and if made after I think 88 it has the better quill in it as well. Catch one for $400 once in a blue moon $650-$800 often. they often have a bandsaw or jointer or more included some that have a lot you can go as much as $1200. Then for tooling keep that one and cut it down to be a mark 4 or a power station for tooling. Or part it out. And yes my green restored on shown on lumber jocks I often use the table saw blade exposed. I put a cross cut sled on it and it works great, No kick backs as for the bottom I just do not adjust my tables while running. You would have to try pretty hard to get a hand in it anyway. check out my green restored machine just like yours $125 with paint and new bearings I have about 200 in it. Those way tubes normally clean up pretty good and if not you can buy a set on ebay cheap. Plus shopsmtih is still around too.. www.lumberjocks.com/threads/my-vintage-shopsmith-markv.154418/
I just received one of these from a friend who passed away and I'd never seen one before. This was really helpful to show how to switch between the tools. Thanks!
I enjoyed your video. Using the longer 5/16 wrench and practicing with your machine you can cut a lot of time on the switches. By having the accessories closer and doing dry runs on set up one can even knock off more time . Love my shop smith tools.
I also have a 1954 mark 5 greenie, it's an awesome machine. I'd recommend picking up a lower saw guard for the table saw, and a nova chuck for the lathe. You can also pick up a shaper head, molding head, use it as a router or a drum sander...the bandsaw is awesome, the 48" belt sander is awesome, the jointer is OK, I've never used my biscuit joiner or the scroll saw. This machine is a beast.
I inherited a Mark 2. I have no idea how to use it. It has a sanding disk on it now. I had no idea it did so much! So….. I also inherited a lathe - big one, and drill press - a big one, band saws, radial arm saw and everything in between. This is rather exciting! Now I just need a big workshop! Thanks for sharing! You gave me hope in this machine. Now I just have to find out what the pieces look like close up. I have so many saws! I’m glad these machines do more than cut! I need my hands and fingers! LOL
Not often I hear about a Mark 2. Who knows, you might find a place to fit everything in a smaller space than you predict and still have room to get full range of operation
Years ago I bought a Shopsmith from a neighbor across the street. He bought it new in 1952 of thereabouts. He was now too old and frail to do woodworking. I set it up in my basement. I figured one tool would do the work of several in my very limited space. The Shopsmith had no safety features at all and was really under-powered. The table saw blade was 8 inches, not 10, yet it performed admirably within its limitations. I especially liked the lathe, athough it was difficult to change the speed. Same true for the drill press. Eventually I sold the machine to another neighbor and I have no idea what happened to it from there. My point is that I would certainly consider a modern Shopsmith if I were buying. However, I have moved several times since, and I have even less space than before. Guess I'll have to take up another hobby! -- Bill in Colorado
as stated look at what thy call a mark 4. But Don't buy it new. Find a good used mark5 510 or 510. Huge work tables. Also I think in the 70's they went from a 3/4 hp motor to the 1 -1/8hp now still used to day. Except the power pro's that use a electronic DVR motor. Basically a giant stepper motor able to turn out 2hp on 220v or 1.5hp on 110v You can cut about 18-20 inches off the tubes and shorten it. It does take length off of the lathe but if you are not buying for a spindle long turning it is steel I nice lathe for bowls and other small or short Items. I picked up one just like this one made in 1980 for $125 in bad shape torn all apart. So I put new bearing in it and painted it to a color in my opinion I think they all should of had done. hunter green and almond white. Link to shop smith #1 I purchased, Then I bought another made in 84 that I took the legs off and hung on the wall as a permanent drill press over head router. Then my 3rd is the 510 model with the large table set up and they all came with different options, S I have multiple s of some. But I have the bandsaw, the jointer, 3 sets of lathe chisels, Mortis tenon kit to drill square holes and a lot more. my last find was a power station with another jointer for a smoking deal of $75 BUCKS!!! All of these and I have spent less than $1500 on the entire collection. So if you going to buy check out marketplace or craigslist. I have seen really nice 510 models start as low as $400 and 3 times nicer than this guys. Buy them from the mid 90s and up the added an extra bearing in the quill making them even better. I love my machines and the folks that talk shit on them do not own them and if they did they do not understand proper set up of the machine or operation. They fact the table saw blade does not tip and you have to the table to make a bevel cut is a deal breaker for many. But I do not find it un safe. You can buy new guards and dust collection shoots and any part you want for cheap on Ebay. Also if you decide it is not for you then sell t on Ebay Piece by piece and you will triple or more your money. Ebay people love to pick them up cheep and and part them out all the time. Most parts are better the newer they get but the way it is made any newer parts can upgrade the machine. But check out my 500 on Lumber jocks. They can all be made to look as good. I am going to do my 510 this winter. www.lumberjocks.com/threads/my-vintage-shopsmith-markv.154418/
Hey all great vid. Here’s the but. Check and double check all tightening points and alignments. The 5 does not have all the idiot safety stuffs. However with common sense and not trying to change between tools in 30 secs. Be smart be safe and good projects to you.
Thanks for these great videos! I have a Mark 500 (I think) with jigsaw SPT. I can't seem to line up the headstock with the shaft of the SPT. I have the straight mounting tubes for the SPT and not the eccentric one. ANY ideas would be appreciated.
The straight mounting tubes have always been a problem. You could get up and down but not left and right. I recomend finding some excentric tubes. I know the mother ship (what many of us call shopsmith.com) doesn't sell tubes for the older jigsaw model. Contact Scott over at mygrowthring and he could recomend the right equivalent to get.
It's usually done by the company that sells the blade. The Forrest Woodworker 2 gets shipped back to the company. Most people keep 2 on hand so one can be shipped. Most blades just aren't worth sharpening unless you spend upwards of 200 dollars on the blade. Sharpens costs about 50 dollars as well.
A 10er has different specs that I'm not familiar with. At first glance of things, I would say no. However they did try something like that with the Mark 2. If you can find out more on some of the specs of things it would be worth trying.
I also have a 10er that actually came with the house I bought. The previous owner used the blueprints in the original manual to make the base and it works great. I would rather have the mark V type base though. Please update the post if you were able to make it work. Thanks
I own a 10er and 500 and both were sold without guards. All old machines ran without guards and many with exposed belts and pully, like my 1940s southbend metal lathe. You most certainly can run them without 'utter death' occurring but make one stupid mistake and then its gonna be a very bad day. Its amazing but most carpenters I know wedge the guard open on their circular saws. They would remove them entirely but need to be able to pull the wedge when OSHA shows up on the job site. The guard actually makes the saw more dangerous for certain operations like plunge or chop sawing as you have to manually hold it open to expose the blade. At some point you have to exercise common sense and caution. Like keeping boom boxes off the job site. Its a job site, not a disco tech for the love of God. They cripple you by taking awaying your hearing which is dangerous on so many levels. Unfortunately the safety devices sometines promote ignorance, a lack of caution and general disrespect of the job site. That said, I think safty upgrades are in general an improvement but basics, (like dont hang your 12" beard or hippy hair into a rotating tool space), are more important. The best safty on a gun is between your ears. 😂
I have since received the shopsmith one when my upgrades were purchased. However I wonder how many seconds in certain changeovers would really be shaved off with the upgraded versions. But, every second counts.
I have the same model along with a mark 7 but mine came with the upper and lower guards.. available Upper from Shopsmith…Upper #513522.$4.95 lower #514358…$139.51.. pricey but worthwhile
you need to get yourself what Scott from "MyGrowthRings" calls the Shopsmith tool box. Another viewer referred to this too, a long handles 5/32 allen wrench...nice video. If you (Beggars Workshop) need guards for your unit, contact me. jim
I do indeed need the tool box. Ever since I started with making walking sticks I've had to work with what little(tools and money) I've had. Origins of my channel name compliment that. As for guards I do thank you for the offer. I need to upgrade to the 510/520 tables that comes with the better guards.
I just bought a machine like this called the total shop on marketplace. I can’t wait to use it. This video made it seem so easy to change the tools it’s going to be a big help!
Look up the history of the total shop, you will be surprised what you find.
@@thebeggarswoodshop8756 Thank you. I can’t wait to make some stuff!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Just picked up a late 70s-early 80s Shopsmith MKV and know absolutely nothing about woodworking. I love how whimsical this video feels and look forward to future videos!
My Dad bought a new Shopsmith in 1956. It is the machine I used as I learned woodworking in my younger years. When Dad passed I got the machine. I put new bearings in the headstock and motor in 2017. Since the newer base machines are the same as when the mark 5 was first introduced , all the table upgrades ( and associated safety upgrades) are available through Shopsmith or on the second hand market. If you have a small workshop this machine was made with you in mind. By the way, if you don’t have the owners manual it is still available through Shopsmith. It shows proper setup and alignment. It will be the best $30.00 investment you can make on this machine.
My goal is to retrofit the headstock to a power pro and upgrade the table, carrage, and other upgrades. Its why I started a gofundme. I have aligned it as best I can thanks to a shopsmith video on youtube.
@@thebeggarswoodshop8756 You will like the PowerPro. I got one over a year ago. As you already know the alignment is key to accuracy. I did a lot of work on the 500 tables but I must admit the new table system is nice. Good luck with your plans for the machine.
When my uncle passed away in the late '90's I got his Mark 5 (along with all his Shopsmith manuals!)... I was primarily interested in the lathe application to make my own instrument tuning pegs (Persian setar, kemancheh etc) but I mostly have used the drill press application as a horizontal drill press ... I haven't tried the table saw or even the lathe applications yet 😆 I know I'm under utilising it but frankly power tools with blades scare the b-jesus out of me!!
@@thebeggarswoodshop8756 Don't beg people. Find some simple projects you can make with it as is and sell it. Put that money towards up grading. If I was you I would search marketplace for a complete 510 it has a better motor and if made after I think 88 it has the better quill in it as well. Catch one for $400 once in a blue moon $650-$800 often. they often have a bandsaw or jointer or more included some that have a lot you can go as much as $1200. Then for tooling keep that one and cut it down to be a mark 4 or a power station for tooling. Or part it out. And yes my green restored on shown on lumber jocks I often use the table saw blade exposed. I put a cross cut sled on it and it works great, No kick backs as for the bottom I just do not adjust my tables while running. You would have to try pretty hard to get a hand in it anyway. check out my green restored machine just like yours $125 with paint and new bearings I have about 200 in it. Those way tubes normally clean up pretty good and if not you can buy a set on ebay cheap. Plus shopsmtih is still around too..
www.lumberjocks.com/threads/my-vintage-shopsmith-markv.154418/
I just received one of these from a friend who passed away and I'd never seen one before. This was really helpful to show how to switch between the tools. Thanks!
I am so glad I found this channel. I'm inheriting a Mark V from my father-in-law and am a fledgling wood worker. Thank You!
Welcome
I have that exact machine. 1954, still going strong.
I enjoyed your video. Using the longer 5/16 wrench and practicing with your machine you can cut a lot of time on the switches. By having the accessories closer and doing dry runs on set up one can even knock off more time . Love my shop smith tools.
I also have a 1954 mark 5 greenie, it's an awesome machine. I'd recommend picking up a lower saw guard for the table saw, and a nova chuck for the lathe. You can also pick up a shaper head, molding head, use it as a router or a drum sander...the bandsaw is awesome, the 48" belt sander is awesome, the jointer is OK, I've never used my biscuit joiner or the scroll saw. This machine is a beast.
some of those are on my to get list. Stay tuned to the channel, some upgrades are coming
I inherited a Mark 2. I have no idea how to use it. It has a sanding disk on it now. I had no idea it did so much! So….. I also inherited a lathe - big one, and drill press - a big one, band saws, radial arm saw and everything in between. This is rather exciting! Now I just need a big workshop! Thanks for sharing! You gave me hope in this machine. Now I just have to find out what the pieces look like close up. I have so many saws! I’m glad these machines do more than cut! I need my hands and fingers! LOL
Not often I hear about a Mark 2. Who knows, you might find a place to fit everything in a smaller space than you predict and still have room to get full range of operation
10-ER here, I use long shank allen keys for the
collets
I was just given one of these today. Looks like an impressively flexible tool!!
You will enjoy
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing. Take care and God Bless.
Thanks good video I acquired one just like it a few months back haven't had time to play with it but now I have an idea of how it functions
Ray, you are in for a world of fun.
Dude, you need moulding around your door! The Shopsmith will make perfect corners. 😎
It's on the to do list
I love my dad‘s old Mark 5, though I prefer using his old Craftsman table saw with the larger base for sawing.
They do make a lower guard and upper guard for the rable saw so they will be as safe as anyother table saw.
True. And the newer ones are better than the previous generation.
I have my father's 1966 Mark V!!!!!
Needs a drive belt.
Thank you, good job
Years ago I bought a Shopsmith from a neighbor across the street. He bought it new in 1952 of thereabouts. He was now too old and frail to do woodworking. I set it up in my basement. I figured one tool would do the work of several in my very limited space. The Shopsmith had no safety features at all and was really under-powered. The table saw blade was 8 inches, not 10, yet it performed admirably within its limitations. I especially liked the lathe, athough it was difficult to change the speed. Same true for the drill press. Eventually I sold the machine to another neighbor and I have no idea what happened to it from there.
My point is that I would certainly consider a modern Shopsmith if I were buying. However, I have moved several times since, and I have even less space than before. Guess I'll have to take up another hobby! -- Bill in Colorado
have you looked at shorties/a Mark 4? Helps to fit in limited spaces.
as stated look at what thy call a mark 4. But Don't buy it new. Find a good used mark5 510 or 510. Huge work tables. Also I think in the 70's they went from a 3/4 hp motor to the 1 -1/8hp now still used to day. Except the power pro's that use a electronic DVR motor. Basically a giant stepper motor able to turn out 2hp on 220v or 1.5hp on 110v You can cut about 18-20 inches off the tubes and shorten it. It does take length off of the lathe but if you are not buying for a spindle long turning it is steel I nice lathe for bowls and other small or short Items. I picked up one just like this one made in 1980 for $125 in bad shape torn all apart. So I put new bearing in it and painted it to a color in my opinion I think they all should of had done. hunter green and almond white.
Link to shop smith #1 I purchased, Then I bought another made in 84 that I took the legs off and hung on the wall as a permanent drill press over head router. Then my 3rd is the 510 model with the large table set up and they all came with different options, S I have multiple s of some. But I have the bandsaw, the jointer, 3 sets of lathe chisels, Mortis tenon kit to drill square holes and a lot more. my last find was a power station with another jointer for a smoking deal of $75 BUCKS!!! All of these and I have spent less than $1500 on the entire collection. So if you going to buy check out marketplace or craigslist. I have seen really nice 510 models start as low as $400 and 3 times nicer than this guys. Buy them from the mid 90s and up the added an extra bearing in the quill making them even better. I love my machines and the folks that talk shit on them do not own them and if they did they do not understand proper set up of the machine or operation. They fact the table saw blade does not tip and you have to the table to make a bevel cut is a deal breaker for many. But I do not find it un safe. You can buy new guards and dust collection shoots and any part you want for cheap on Ebay. Also if you decide it is not for you then sell t on Ebay Piece by piece and you will triple or more your money. Ebay people love to pick them up cheep and and part them out all the time. Most parts are better the newer they get but the way it is made any newer parts can upgrade the machine.
But check out my 500 on Lumber jocks. They can all be made to look as good. I am going to do my 510 this winter.
www.lumberjocks.com/threads/my-vintage-shopsmith-markv.154418/
@@jvmiller1995 best of luck in your endeavors
Hey all great vid. Here’s the but. Check and double check all tightening points and alignments. The 5 does not have all the idiot safety stuffs. However with common sense and not trying to change between tools in 30 secs. Be smart be safe and good projects to you.
Excellent
Nice Video. You can shave many seconds of of your switch ups by using a t-handle allen wrench.
I've gotten my hands on one since recording the video
Thanks for these great videos! I have a Mark 500 (I think) with jigsaw SPT. I can't seem to line up the headstock with the shaft of the SPT. I have the straight mounting tubes for the SPT and not the eccentric one. ANY ideas would be appreciated.
The straight mounting tubes have always been a problem. You could get up and down but not left and right. I recomend finding some excentric tubes. I know the mother ship (what many of us call shopsmith.com) doesn't sell tubes for the older jigsaw model. Contact Scott over at mygrowthring and he could recomend the right equivalent to get.
Thank you
Can anyone tell me where to get the table saw blade sharpened? I cannot find one in my area, So Cal.
Contact Shopsmith to see if they still sharpen their blades
It's usually done by the company that sells the blade. The Forrest Woodworker 2 gets shipped back to the company. Most people keep 2 on hand so one can be shipped. Most blades just aren't worth sharpening unless you spend upwards of 200 dollars on the blade. Sharpens costs about 50 dollars as well.
Can you transfer a 10er model over to that base?
A 10er has different specs that I'm not familiar with. At first glance of things, I would say no. However they did try something like that with the Mark 2. If you can find out more on some of the specs of things it would be worth trying.
I also have a 10er that actually came with the house I bought. The previous owner used the blueprints in the original manual to make the base and it works great. I would rather have the mark V type base though. Please update the post if you were able to make it work. Thanks
I own a 10er and 500 and both were sold without guards. All old machines ran without guards and many with exposed belts and pully, like my 1940s southbend metal lathe.
You most certainly can run them without 'utter death' occurring but make one stupid mistake and then its gonna be a very bad day.
Its amazing but most carpenters I know wedge the guard open on their circular saws. They would remove them entirely but need to be able to pull the wedge when OSHA shows up on the job site.
The guard actually makes the saw more dangerous for certain operations like plunge or chop sawing as you have to manually hold it open to expose the blade.
At some point you have to exercise common sense and caution. Like keeping boom boxes off the job site.
Its a job site, not a disco tech for the love of God. They cripple you by taking awaying your hearing which is dangerous on so many levels. Unfortunately the safety devices sometines promote ignorance, a lack of caution and general disrespect of the job site.
That said, I think safty upgrades are in general an improvement but basics, (like dont hang your 12" beard or hippy hair into a rotating tool space), are more important.
The best safty on a gun is between your ears. 😂
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You could shave several seconds off your time by using a long hex key of the right size instead of fiddling with opening a folding hex key set.
I have since received the shopsmith one when my upgrades were purchased. However I wonder how many seconds in certain changeovers would really be shaved off with the upgraded versions. But, every second counts.
I have the same model along with a mark 7 but mine came with the upper and lower guards.. available Upper from Shopsmith…Upper #513522.$4.95 lower #514358…$139.51.. pricey but worthwhile
Saw guards will come when I upgrade the table saw
you need to get yourself what Scott from "MyGrowthRings" calls the Shopsmith tool box. Another viewer referred to this too, a long handles 5/32 allen wrench...nice video. If you (Beggars Workshop) need guards for your unit, contact me. jim
I do indeed need the tool box. Ever since I started with making walking sticks I've had to work with what little(tools and money) I've had. Origins of my channel name compliment that. As for guards I do thank you for the offer. I need to upgrade to the 510/520 tables that comes with the better guards.