Spirit Airlines Caught Using Tape on Plane
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2023
- Seeing people post stuff on TikTok is always interesting to hear what they say, but a radio talk show called me up to talk about it while I was on a layover.
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I like how she explained "THIS WHY I DON FLY SPIRIT" from a passenger seat of a Spirit flight.
Social media fail 😂
Literally brain delay. Why not google first? lmao
Lmao 🤣….Facts
To be fair to her, I took her to mean "this is why I don't fly Spirit [if I can avoid it]". There are companies I don't like to do business with, but there's times you have to. Business travel booked by her employer, traveling with somebody else who made the reservations over her objections, her flight got cancelled and got shifted to Spirit, only flight that worked for her schedule wise, didn't want to do it but for budget reasons had to, ...
Don' eeern werry boudit.
Honestly, kudos to the radio hosts who didn't spin the "Flying scary" narrative for cheap sensationalism like media often do, but rather decided to contact someone who knows this stuff
Very good point, didn't think of it that way at first.
I wish more media would do that. Rather than just repeating circular journalism shit, actually ask an expert's opinion.
Great job, Kelsey. I'm a A&P mechanic with 40 years of transport category aircraft experience 15 of those years was spent performing composite structure maintenance. The fan cowl in question is fabricated with numerous layers of carbon fiber fabric and aluminum honeycomb to provide additional strength and to reduce weight. For all of its advantages, composite structures are susceptible to damage from water. Every effort is made to prevent this from occurring. The edges of composite panels are the most likely points of entry for water and when damage to the surface protection (multiple layers of special primers and topcoats) becomes damaged or eroded, action must be taken to prevent the ingress of water. The aircraft manufacturer's structural maintenance manuals provide temporary and permanent repairs for this type of maintenance. Fear not. The repair being applied through the use of "speed tape" is 100% legitimate and can only be employed if the damage is minor and meets strict criteria. "Speed tape" provides safe and effective (temporary) relief of minor composite damage and must be permanently repaired within a certain period of time. Keep up the good work Kelsey and "keep the blue side up". 😉
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Preventing ingress water to the composite materials below makes a lot of sense. Appreciate you spending time to explain that. How do you determine if the crack is too deep and speed tape might not be a temporary option anymore?
Yep, can confirm. The leading edges of the composite wings on the DA40 I fly take a beating in the Florida rainstorms.
Thank you for this explanation!
And as an Aerospace Engineer also with 4 decades in the Industry, that's one valid explanation. There's also the reason Speed Tape is applied, it can be to fill a "gap" (our Engineering Requirements have "tolerances" for forward/aft facing mismatch as well as gap width). Speed Tape is NOT "structural" ... it's just to avoid "drag".
My daughter is a professional radio broadcaster who frequently does on-air interviews with celebrities. As an interviewee (?) you far outshine 99% of them. Great job!
Kelsey is an expert not because he flies 747s but because he will say, I don't know. An expert tells what he knows, but more importantly, what he doesn't. Kelsey is my favorite airplane channel.
mentour pilot is my favorite.
He's good, but not Petter-good 😅
True. I don't completely trust anyone who pretends to to know absolutely everything about a particular subject, even if it is their profession.
So many people prefer to bullshit, rather than just say 'don't know ' or 'not sure'.
I am actually considered an expert on certain equipment i work on. But i never say that. Because i don't feel like an expert.
Do i know that particular equipment very well, yes. But in my mind an expert should be able to answer ANY question about that gear, and i know i cannot do that.
So any time a person claims to be an "expert" on a subject, i question it. Because, as you said, a true expert usually will not claim to be an expert.
Check out Blancolirio. He usually focuses on aircraft incidents and explaining reports when they come in. He also covers California weather and wildfires. He’s got some great interviews with CalFire.
But I love the way Kesley explains the little things about flying that an average person wouldn’t really know or understand.
I worked for SWA for 20 years and couldn’t even tell you how many times I’ve seen a mechanic put speed tape on my plane! Great video Kelsey! 💕
I’m glad I have never seen this. It would make me nervous to.
@@Kaykavoosi8 I completely understand that! I felt the same way the first time I saw mechanics using it on my plane, but I learned about it and realized how strong, durable, and it can be used for so many things! Lowe’s needs to sell this tape! You’d love it! 😬
@@kristinreynolds577 for 800 bucks a roll you can have your own
Lol speed tape as opposed to duct tape?
@@juliemanarin4127 They aren't the same thing thing. "Speed tape" is aluminum tape similar to what is actually used for taping duct work joints. So it's way more expensive.
Kelsey is 100% correct. I've worked with mechanics who put speed tape on our corporate jets for temporary, very minor repairs. It was always done using specific & approved directions, and with full involvement by operations folks. It's not common, but it's also very safe.
It is common
@@shannonjurgens3667 A common practice, yes, that’s true. I only meant that most aircraft aren’t flying around with speed tape. There were specified limits before a full repair had to be done. It’s all done legally, properly & safely.
Don't comment on things you know nothing about.
@@lindacaldwell6251 gate keeping YT comments lmao goodluck with that, if I were you I would use my energy on something else
My husband is an aircraft maintenance mechanic. He once fixed my phone casing with speed tape 😅
We once boarded a flight where some mechanics were just finishing up putting some speed tape on. He chuckled when ppl in front of us were also freaking out about the plane being fixed with tape haha
You said one of the most important things nervous flyers forget. Pilots don’t want to die either, so if they didn’t feel safe they wouldn’t take off!
Another point we aircraft engineers fly too .
Pilots get pressured by airlines regularly to do stuff they are note completely comfortable with. Look at the air crash investigations. Also you assume that the pilot knows this is happening.
@@crabby7668 of course the pilot knows that they are taping up a crack. And yes there are human factors involved in aviation crashes and accidents. But it's still far far safer, and the margins of error are far greater, than the Uber ride to and from the airport.
yeah but pilots are nuts. nuts I tells you. nuts
@@MeppyMan you know that the pilot knows in every case exactly how? Do all airlines run their maintenance records past you personally? Just because it is supposed to be that way, does not mean it is that way.
I would agree that aviation, in the west and certain other areas of the world, is highly regulated and the safest form of transport, but that doesn't count for everywhere. You know that some airlines have been banned from European skies because their maintenance was not deemed to be up to scratch. You do know their was a scandal in the US where cheapo knockoff aircraft parts found their way into the inventories of many airlines. So as you see just because something is mandated does not mean it happens.
I was merely commenting on the trite observation that the pilot doesn't want to die, so everything must be hunky dory with the plane. That is to imply that most of the pilots that died in action warned to die, which will most certainly not be the case. I am pointing out that it isn't always up to the pilot despite all of his/her good intentions.
Why you bring uber into the mix is beyond me. They are a prime example of doing it on the cheap with no thought for the possible consequences.
Many years ago the US Air Force used this tape on their jets. As a joke, my brother taped my Xmas gift in this stuff. Not just one layer but several. I was a creative kid but it took me about a week to get the gift unwrapped. This was about 60 years ago.
This tape sure is tough.
I wonder if you can buy it and how much does it cost?
@@Kaykavoosi8 Quick google search tells me 212€ for 33 meters. Definitly way more expensive than your average scotch roll
@@machintrucGamingwhen the wrapping is more expensive than the gift...
was there a box cutter inside?
And I thought wrapping a tiny gift in a roll of shrink wrap was bad… my game needs a level up.
My father was a Navy pilot and “duct tape” was always called 1000 mile an hour tape, because it won’t come off until the plane reaches 1000 miles an hour. It is used all the time to fix small cracks and erosions on leading edges of panels.
That's right.
That crack looked 6 inches wide, I bet it took 10 rolls.
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What @timothyward7737 said
Its called Speed Tape for a reason. Its incredibly sticky and once applied, the tape gets edge sealant. Usually, speed tape protects composite materials from moisture and water intrusion, temporarily. I’ve used it a thousand times, don’t be scared to fly. . .
that's what I though even as non aviation guy: it was to protect some part from water
My understanding is that the adhesion increases under pressure load.
I’ve used it on military planes
I thought it was called Speed Tape coz it makes the plane go faster!! 😂
whats its thermal characteristics at -40C ?????????????? still sticky????? I dont think so (it looked like aluminium tape)
I worked on planes in the Navy for twenty years and we used speed tape all over the place. Not just for cracks, but to cover screws so they can’t fall out and get sucked into the engine.
I do something similar, but using another technique. I take a screw driver and tighten the screws.
@@jeschinstad Vibration is a thing. Without some type of thread locker or covering like speed tape, some screws/bolts will eventually work themselves free no matter how much you tighten them.
@@StephenBeaudet: It was a joke.
@@jeschinstad My bad. Hard to infer sometimes in text. Take my LOL as an apology! 🤣
@@StephenBeaudet: No problem. I was about to anwer your last comment with "that's why screw drivers are reusable", but I let it go. :)
Great video. I’m a 30 year airline mechanic. It’s used to prevent water or other fluids from entering minor damage. Sometimes the aircraft manuals tell us to do this and sometimes our engineers tell us to use it. It always has either a certain number of take offs and landings or hours of flight or days before the part must be repaired. It’s strong over small areas only in withstanding air flow and small holes or cracks. 3M product. And as you said speedtape is it’s name.
Just for reference, speed tape aka 3M Aluminum Foil Tape is roughly 8 to 10 times as expensive as 3M duct tape.
I figured it out right away. Howard Hughes had the rivets top smoothed off for better aerodynamics!
Being from Maplewood MN, the main 3M headquarters they certainly know their adhesive products. They Ole timers would say they worked at "Da Mining!" 😃
Me too. It looks like he's deferring an eroded or torn seal. They probably found it on walk around and so everybody is already boarding before they wrote it up, thus we get to put tape on the plane while everybody is watching. I've certainly done it.
I always love how Kelsey can come up with super relatable analogy on the spot!
I think Kelsey would also be a very good teacher. He gives great illustrations and explanations
after watching Kelsey for a few years on here I met him this winter in Miami. we were at neighboring gates him heading to medellín Columbia and we were heading to honduras. I recognized him immediately and told my wife who he was. her always suspicious of me being wrong went and asked him if his name was Kelsey, and of course I was right and we talked for a few minutes while he was uploading his latest video. was just cool to bump into him. really down to earth cool guy.
So you were "right" for once. :-)
There is a principal when considering our relationship with our significant others, or other people who have an influence in our lives for that matter...
"Would I rather be "right" or would I rather be "comfortable"
Cool! But does he blink? Was he in uniform?
@@DrHarryT It doesn’t sound like a “for once” situation, but rather her being concerned about him being wring *this time* and maybe making someone uncomfortable, though generally people aren’t uncomfortable being asked if they’re so-and-so and it’s left at that if the answer is No.
@@Anna_Xor Probably not. If he was uploading a video, he wasn’t flying.
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Sometimes he deadheads & commutes in uniform.
Nice job answering their questions. As you pointed out: the pilots are going to be on that flight too, and if they weren't satisfied with the plane's airworthiness, they wouldn't fly it.
My girlfriend was on a flight which was initially delayed after the Captain got a warning light while they were preparing to push back. He had an engineer check and it seemed like the issue was resolved. However, while rolling down the runway he rejected take-off as the warning light had come on again, so after another delay an engineer came and checked it again and once again reassured the pilots that it was a fault relating to the indicator, that there was no issue with the system it was supposed to be warning about.
Once again they attempted take-off, but rejected for the same reason and at that point the Captain advised the passengers that, while the engineers had reassured him that there was nothing wrong except the indicator light, he was not prepared to fly this plane today. They returned to the gate and my (much relieved, as she'd already wanted to get off after the first announcement about getting the engineer to check the warning light) girlfriend and the other passengers were disembarked and put up in a hotel overnight while the airline made other arrangements.
That’s great! For whatever reason, I was under the impression that pilots wouldn’t have control over whether or not they can choose to fly a (potentially) unsafe plane because the plane company might fire them for missing a flight and costing them money. I’m glad to see that was just a strange misconception on my part.
It's definitely cheaper for the airline to miss a flight, put the full compliment of passengers up for a night in suitable accommodations, and effect whatever necessary repairs to an aircraft than for said airline to face legal action due to negligence in forcing a pilot to fly a potentially unsafe aircraft, and/or legal action resulting from however many deaths because their bird crashed due to aforementioned negligence. Even if it was really just an indicator fault, airlines are well aware it's best to err on the side of caution with such things, even if their motivation is strictly financial
@@crewdawg2008also planes are expensive as hell, airlines generally really don't want them crashing
@@tlaroche38 I did overlook the actual cost of the aircraft in that, didn't I? Well yes, that too lol
That’s a great captain, honestly.
Kelsey, no matter what you do, don't change your process, methods, or production style. Love your videos. I don't know any 747 pilots to talk with about the industry, but I kinda do now with you; even though it's a one-way ticket. Keep it up!
More people need to hire you for aviation expert perspectives!
Specially Hollywood
Yeah movies, cmon hollywood
In other airline news, Northern Canadian carrier, Canadian North has announced the retirement of the Boeing 737-200 after 41 years of service in the far north region of Canada 😎
3M has a group dedicated to aircraft manufacturing. I don't know if they make this particular tape, but they do provide solutions for bonding components together. Their commercial products are engineered at a high level and are made to work in some very demanding applications. The perception that your plane might be held together by "tape" scares a lot of people because most people aren't engineers, but you'd be surprised at where tape is used to aid manufacturing.
We've used it to aid aerodynamics for Drag Racing... When you've covered the car in logos to "sell the real estate" in order to fund the operation, a $200 roll of tape seems like a small investment for sealing the little spaces between cowlings and body shell or to completely cover the joints for the fenders... Every little place you can turn turbulence into laminar flow COUNTS when races and titles swap on a couple thousandths of a second...
I'd recommend doing the research for a supplier for anyone involved in setting speed records... whether you're running jet-boats or classic cars... Aircraft ain't the only thing that suffer when aerodynamics take a dip! When you've essentially poured a million dollars into a ride, you don't want it wasted for being "too cheap" to put the GOOD tape on there!
Haha... ;o)
When the right tape, with the right glue composition is matched with the right material... Daym, it holds like you'd think it was welded. Had 2 pcs of 3mm polycarbonate thin bars, looked a bit like rulers from school. Put a weird clear gummy feeling 3M tape between rulers, pressed together for 1 minute, left it to "cure" for 5 mins more and then I'd bend and eventually break the poly carbonate, took alot of effort, without the patch of sticky tape giving up it's grip. That 3M tape is used in some aircraft constructions, as a permanent installation.
It can cost $300 a roll, too.
Spent the last 15 years as a flight test engineer, Liaison/MRB Aircraft repair engineer, and aircraft manufacturing engineer. The cheap 3M Type 434 or 436 is only about $1,000 a roll. In high temp areas, I’ve dispo’d Type 433 at about $4,500 a roll. In service, and depending on the type of repair, you’re usually looking at 10 days before a permanent repair shall be performed. And while you’re using speed tape as a temp repair, you’re required to inspect the tape application prior to every flight. In flight test, it’s used a lot to create a “fairing” around external Instrumentation wiring, moisture and aerodynamic barriers around temporary installations (cameras, sensors, microphones), and used in lieu of aero sealing when you need to dispatch on a tight timeframe. Even seen it used to prototype surface profiles around areas that produce “aero tones” and feed that info/shape back to the design folks for part redesigns.
Sadly, it just feels like the aluminized tape around your dryer ducts. :-/
On the subject of 3M, how about their double sided tape that holds on skyscraper window panels. Literally just double sided tape to the best of my knowledge(relatively speaking obv it's chemical compound will be different from the average)
Kelsey is so right about using the tape to reduce aerodynamic drag. Saw plenty of times in the Army around helos where the tape was used to cover damage to the aircraft skin until proper aluminum patches could be installed. We called it "100-mile an hour tape." Tear a piece off the roll, slap it over the hole or gash, and voila.....good to go!
What a brilliant episode. Viewers get to know a little more of not only the airline industry, but also some of the behind the scenes of radio interviews, like it was probably never shown to the public before.
Thank you Kelsey. I have watched your channel for a few years now and always look forward to your videos. I know it's a lot of work for you but I want you to know you are really appreciated..
Dude this is his job which he's payed for and he has alot more money than you so don't be silly keep your money 😅
@@anonymous-ts6bm let the man do what he wants with his money
@@d0fishaviationboth of y’all cut it out or imma get involved
Kelsey, I think the best part was when you said it's not like they're wrapping it up like a Christmas gift!
This was great! You told us you wanted to step outside the bounds of your structured video comfort zones... it's awesome to see it happen!
Kelsey you are so reassuring and hilarious too! You're an absolute gem. ❤
I love how your answer to "what WOULD be concerning to see out the window" wasn't just "everyone running away."
In the Navy we called it 100 MPH tape. The most I ever seen used was to cover a bird strike hole on the leading edge of the wing. I was stationed at VA-174 DET El Centro, CA and the class student pilots with two instructors were from Cecile Field FL for three weeks at a time, with a week between classes. On the last flight of the last day of training flights, one of the jets took a bird strike in the leading edge. The Next morning the A-7s headed back to Cecile Field. We taped up the hole in the leading edge with 100 MPH tape and gave the roll of tape to the pilot telling him if the hole opened up he needed to land and tape it back up and to reapply tape at each of the fuel stops. The tape was applied from the top of the leading edge to the bottom with several inches going beyond the hole and several layers thick.
It can handle far more than 100mph! :D
Yea it is called 1000 mile per hour tape.
bet that was expensive lol (not relatively speaking of course lol)
I’ve been an AMT for over 35 years. Working corporate specific AMT/Flight Engineer for over 20 years. This is a great video! Really enjoy your channel, Kelsey! 👍🏼😊
Love these interviews. Dude you have a great career. Props to you and sharing your journey! Be safe!
Turbo props!?
Back during my college days, I was a Ramp Supervisor for Southwest Airlines at KRNO.
We called that speed tape "500mph. Tape."
Nothing to worry about! It's used everyday worldwide!
Dad worked for United Airlines Ramp, 35 yrs, they called it "700mph tape". Does that mean United flies faster than Southwest?? Made myself laugh... haha!
Seems the further I read, the faster the speed tape gets. Lol
I'm guessing by the area that tape is on the pylon, they were missing a fastener. This is probably on a 120 day deferral and they reinspect the tape on a regular basis. It is an approved temporary repair in the AMM. I'm not defending Spirit but they don't do anything that is not legit as far as maintenance. Actually they pay their Mechanics quite well. Edit: Speed tape can be purchased at Aircraft Spruce.
When she asked if she could buy it I immediately wondered if aircraft spruce carried it😅. Although if you can find it somewhere else it's usually cheaper.
As a aircraft mechanic of 28 years I love seeing the shocked looks of passengers while applying speed tape.
FYI it's never used to hold the plane together, it's usually used when we've removed a panel and don't have time to let the aerodynamic sealant cure and prevent water entry or where carbon fibre is exposed and need to get back to base for a permanent repair.
Aircraft safety is in no way compromised.
Speed tape is used to cover damaged paint jobs on composite structures, or to cover newly applied aerodynamic sealant which hasn't fully cured yet.
The video shows a tape-up of the top part of the translating-sleeve on the inboard thrust reverser. The sleeve is made from carbon fibre. With a damaged paint job there is a chance of water ingress, which when it freezes at higher altitudes, could cause delamination of the carbon fiber layers, so tape is applied until the sleeve can be repainted. The tape inspected daily and re-applied if damaged.
-Aircraft mechanic
I love it when people don’t understand what’s going on! Not only does Kelsey get content but we get something to laugh at! And thank goodness for that 0:48
wait wait wait you can hold an airliner together with just tape can that happen?🤣
It was free!
Several friends sent me this video. I told them it’s just speed tape, settle down. I personally don’t think I’d fly Spirit just based off their schedules and the ala cart pricing for everything. No shame to folks who fly Spirit. Great video Kelsey, awesome you did a radio interview and filmed it for us! You are def our aviation expert ❤
y the time they’re done nickel-and-diming you, you’ll pay more than other airlines. So low-cost is a fallacy. People like Spirit because they take pride in the crap treatment, as if it makes them a member of a club, which is sad.
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Ah yes, the American Capitalism Special. "Look at this great price!"
But after about 8 layers of fees it's about the same as everything else.
@@seventh-hydra exactly. I priced a flight on Frontier out of curiosity to see if I’d actually save money. Nope. After all the extras, it was about the same as one of the legacy carriers. I just stick to Delta.
spirit is FANTASTIC. Flew them exclusively for 2 years n business in FL. SO MUCH LESS EXPEnSIVE. LEarn the system and you save a fortune. The planes are new, the crew is super professional, the ground crew is the best -- AND -- they give very generous flight vouchers (in DOLLARS) if you volunteer on an overbooking. One time my wife got $1000 on one overnight to save them an overbooking. That is a lot of round trips to FLorida at less than $150 each.
That's just so cool Kelsey! Love seeing the behind the scenes and it seems like they were some cool people! Thanks for the content per usual.
I've been subscribed for years and this is the first time I've left a comment (I'm usually very critical) but I have to admit that this was a VERY COOL video; the content was quite original and I couldn't help but smile through some of the commentary. Very well done, thank you.
That is the kind of thing that puts a lot of stress on people particularly with a fear of flying. I think it actually shows a kind of intelligence in people who are flying and do get scared like that! Considering the engineering involved in flying, it IS complex! But usually, if you have someone explain things to them, they calm right down. I have actually told people to watch you Kelsey to get over a fear of flight. Because hearing ordinary explanations on things makes them feel a lot more secure, and I barely know anything and I often have to say "I don't know" or "I'm not sure, so try this you tube channel" :)
I agree! I was a nervous flyer, but after lots of listening to Kelsey and Mentour Pilot, my whole mindset has completely changed. I used to think that if anything went wrong on a flight, you were basically doomed and it was a miracle if the plane didn't crash. I know now that if something goes wrong, 1. chances are the plane can continue flying and land safely regardless, and 2. the pilots have checklists and good ideas of what may have gone wrong and how to fix it.
@@MountainCry I know SOME things about flying and had at one point done flying myself, so I get friends and relatives asking me stuff. But I know enough to know I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH. Kelsey does it as his livelihood, and knows quite a lot more. So, I recommend people to come here. Like he tells it, pilots are not in the habit of taking off in a plane that they think is not going to perform well! They want to land safely just as much!
Charlotte: Absolutely. Especially when you consider that for almost everything, cost matters a LOT, and the lowest bidder is often getting the job. So being cautious re quality, where it matters IS showing a certain level of intelligence.
In the end, for pretty much everything, it comes down to probabilities. Something bad could happen, but is it really likely enough to go bonkers over?
That lesson should work well for anti-vaxxers, but when rationality goes out the window (re considering probabilities), then logic doesn't work for such thinking.
@@rogergeyer9851 Everything in aviation is meant to be fail safe. If one thing fails, there should be a back up to get people to safety. So, for a real accident, more than one thing must go wrong. However, the amount of flights that happen all day long makes that low probability more of a reality. And no matter how well engineered the redundancies, flying is still quite a feat. I fully understand why people panic.
This was great! Thank you for sharing!
I imagine that the speed tape is more about aerodynamics than like structural support. Mostly preventing the airflow from causing the sides of the crack to flap around.
This was great seeing both sides of the interview. Thanks Kelsey!
What a fun video! Cool idea editing the two sides together. Radio is such a fun medium with often much more timely content by accessing experts or others with local knowledge of an issue over the phone. Trippy to hear yourself on delay when it’s recorded.
I would have said there are certain minor maintenance issues that allow you to defer the repairs for a set period of time until you are able to get it into your maintenance facility. Otherwise they would have to find a new aircraft and possibly crew to take over the leg while the other aircraft waits for maintenance. Awesome to see you are a resource for various shows! ❤
They do borrow parts from other planes in a pinch called cannibalizing as long as the part fits and works. It's a common practice. Acceptable.
Really funny video! A great explanation of what was going on. You would think, however, that they would do this before passengers got on the plane so there wouldn't be a mass panic 🙂
Thanks for this, Kelsey. Fun insight into things.
Kelsey - I was in your shoes hundreds of times when I was a NASA PAO and did interviews for radio stations all around the world, I was there during Shuttle and early Space Station…so I got a lot of weird questions from folks who didn’t understand what can and cannot be done in zero G. Once I did an interview for a radio station in Columbia and all my comments were translated. I was very serious but after translating the radio hosts laughed, so who knows what was lost or gained in that interview.
Then I had network TV news producers in New York who would ask me what time something was scheduled to happen on orbit. I would say like “8 a.m. Central Standard Time” and they’d ask “What time is that Eastern?” Probably should have used GMT or Mission Elapsed Time to really throw them off.
Good job on that one.
Great job, Kelsey! Love how you are one of the few people out there, making sure to counter lies with truth. Keep it up, we're loving your vids.❤
Great fun watching you keep the calms with all the buzz of the video and the three in the studio and jingles and everything: You kept it simple and clear. My favorite: "If they wrap the whole plane with speed tape, then be concerned", just imagining this made me crack! Thanks for putting it together and share it!
This is the exact experience that you also can get with TV interviews, podcast interviews, they're pretty much all the same. The only difference with TV is that you have to obviously make sure that that your "set" actually looks presentable and you look like you're ready for TV.
Loved this video, great vibes lol
OK, be honest everyone, who among you would not be frozen in stage fright trying to figure out what to say where Kelsey put himself. That takes some deep raw courage.
If you know your subject inside and out you can talk about forever. As I always say; If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it enough...! This goes for anything in life.
Sequoia: Or experience, or knowing the subject matter.
I used to HATE public speaking, etc. And sales. And then when I was 18 to 19 I worked my first software job (about 45 years ago, when computers were NOT ubiquitous or cheap), and then when I attended a conference where they demoed my product in front of a couple hundred or so people in the industry, I found I didn't mind talking about it at ALL to potential clients.
After all, having written it, I knew far more about it than anyone else (including the salespeople). And I was proud of the work, believed in the product's capabilities, and didn't mind honestly discussing it, things we might well add in future months, etc.
So in the right context or experience, it doesn't take "courage" at all, IMO. But not everyone likes it or is good at it -- that's for sure.
We used aviation tape a few times in rotor land (Bush/Mountain flying), one time a pilot punched a hole in one of the lower plexiglass nose screens landing in a confined area (hit a tree stump), worked well until he got back to base and had it replaced, handy stuff to have for a temporary fix in none critical areas of the machine, great interview Kelsey thanks for the share. :)
Always great to have you on and get your perspective!!
Enjoyable segment Kelsey. Thanks for sharing.
Kelsey I appreciate you emphasizing perspective that can be used universally but not attacking her. "Pilots ain't risking their lives either" "every airline has the same safety requirements" is universal and that'll stick in folks minds if they see whatever the next thing is they don't understand like speed tape. Well done, and well done by the hosts too, that was a great interview all around.
If the tape can save a flight instead of waiting for the part for a few days & grounding the plane until it comes its cool. The leading edge might need to be completely replaced and they don't always have one lying around. So tape will suffice.
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I love how modest you are. The face you made, when Morton said you knew what you were talking about (7:52). 😂🤣
Just a great fun vid. I enjoyed this so much. Great to see some of the other side of piloting life. Thanks Kelsey.
Hi Kelsey, Love the channel!! As a Licensed Aircraft Engineer and Regulatory Airworthiness Surveyor, I cannot tell you the number of times I have used speed tape, and yes it is to aid the aerodynamics and protect, It is so sticky to protect against aerodynamic effectss and air loads. The tape comes in three different thicknesses and strengths , the heavier types being with a backing paper. The tape itself costs an absolute fortune and can only really be supplied by aviation approved suppliers. Keep up the good work.
As an aircraft mechanic, I have used lots of speed tape.
And speed. And tape.
Loved that eyebrow lift at 7:53! Hahahaha Thanks for a great video Kelsey.
thanx for sharing that with us Kelsey... that was so much fun... ur funny af. and def the cutest 1st officer 😍
Love your video's. GA pilot here and love to learn some of the things your teaching us at your level.
This was so fun!!! you should get on some aviation podcasts, it seems like you have fun with this type of content - only if you want to though it's the year of Kelsey🎉
Kelsey, it was fun to see you in this format. You rocked it!
Very nicely done interview - I adore Kelsey!❤
😂😂 love this kind of video 😂 you’re the best
I hope the skies are treating you well. Great content as always.
the sky doesn't give a damn... it's air....
Great! You both know a lot and communicate the relevant data in an interesting abd easy to understand manner 😊
I was laughing so hard there, thanks Kelsey, just what I needed this morning!
It's been done before. And it worked. One really sketchy story was a SAA pilot who was very good, he went and fetched a broken 747 somewhere in Africa and flew it to Johannesburg to fix it. That's all I know about it unfortunately. He also landed a 747 at Rand airport.
Speed tape on helicopters to keep the sand out. Old trick, very useful in the desert.
As usual, an excellent explanation by Kelsey. Thanks for letting everyone know what that really was. I've used it to patch up my RV-7A to prevent water penetration (haha I said "penetration"...) into the wing roots.
Great interview! Thanks, Kelsey!
Great job, Kelsey! That was nice and informative. Thanks a bunch!
Like Sabine Schmitz's Nurburgring challenge on Top Gear, when she couldn't get a Ford transit around the track fast enough she tried increase it's aerodynamics by taping up all the seem in the body. It's not "holding" anything together, but reducing drag.
In Argentina in the 90's I was on a 737 on the ground - the Pilot and a mechanic had a heated argument about the engine while we were all on the plane. The Pilot stormed on to the plane locked the brakes and went to 100% power on the engine in question then stormed down to the mechanic and continued the argument - we took off after that and lived to tell the tale - it's a bit uncomfortable to witness work on the plane prior to take off.
Would you rather them wait until afterward? Or just do it out of sight so you can deny work was done? I promise you, it’s not a big deal, and it mean the airline is paying enough attention.
I flew with an Argentine airline once. That was enough.
I have an Argentine custom guitar. It blows the doors off any other guitar and probably off a 737 too.
@@Brommear back in the 90’s a friend worked in the travel office of the World Bank. Part of her job was to use ALL the facilities that World Bank employees would use when traveling (airlines, hotels, restaurants etc). Her first trip into the Soviet Union required her to fly into a NATO country, then fly Aeroflot into the USSR - when she got onto her first Aeroflot flight inside the USSR, and saw goats and chickens being loaded in the cabin along with the hand luggage her opening note was “Charter a flight!”
It reassures me to see it. Something was noticed and they're taking care of it before we take off.
Loved watching you in the Hot Seat! I Laughed so hard. Thanks for making my day!!
You are one cool cat Mr. Kelsey! Your channel has been my favorite channel for a while! Keep it up, we love the content!
Maple oatmeal, check. Entitled cat on my lap, check. Notification that Kelsey has a new vlog up, check! Thanks for another fun vlog, Kelsey! Have a great week everyone! Oh and for $769.10 you can buy a roll of 1" by 60 yrds of speed tape. Just looked it up..🤣
Think you found a case of 1" rolls, the price I saw for a single roll is about $25.
The age old fear of speed tape...
This was fun to watch! Thanks, Kelsey... I hope you'll do this again at some point!
Thanks for sharing it with us ! It was so fun seeing it from both ends ! Love the great content 💯🫶🏼
Good explanation. I think if I saw them putting some thing that looks like tape on the wing, and I was about to get on that plane I probably wouldn’t have gotten on the plane.😂 but now that I know what it is, I’m all good. Thanks again, Kelsey.
The reason why they don't sell speed tape on Home Depot I'd wager it's because it has a price tag with at least 3 digits
anything that's aviation or medical requires at least one zero to be added to the price that it would retail for it it were an everyday item.
Great vid, Kelsey. Thx for sharing the fun.
It's cool to see behind the scenes. Thanks for sharing this.
That looked like fun. I was surprised you didn't mention the crew walk-arounds to dispell any myths about the pilots not knowing about damage etc.
Great episode!
How is the pilot going to see the upper surfaces, on a 747 or other large airliner, on a walk around? There is only a limited amount that they can see from ground level. So while important, it doesn't cover everything. Aircrash investigations have cited many accidents caused by issues that were not spotted on the walk around for some reason or another.
@@crabby7668 you seem to be fixated by air accidents. I watch those shows while flying... commercial aviation is ridiculously safe.
@@MeppyMan I am not fixated, merely learning from the past, which you would do well to emulate. Flying in the west and certain other areas of the world is the safest form of transport, I would agree, , but that doesn't necessarily apply to everywhere on the planet.
So you claim to watch aircrash disasters while you are flying, which if true, would tend to suggest you are a strange one at best. Do you learn anything from the investigations, or do you just enjoy seeing planes crash and burn?
@@crabby7668 surely this much is obvious, and you just said yourself it's important, that's why they do it, even for a 747.
All I was saying is that it would have been an interesting, and reassuring thing to touch on in the radio interview. Just as he has done in many of his videos.
You come across as being a bit pedantic.
@@TalkieToaster. what is obvious, and to whom is it obvious? The physical checks are obviously worthwhile as they contribute to the safety of the flight. What I would question is the assumption that it can be pushed as an assurance of safety to passengers. If any rational person thinks that the pilot inspects less than 50% of the Structure (important though those inspected parts may be) then without knowing what other measures are taken, they may not be assured at all. In fact they maybe wondering if the pilot is BS them.
The same goes for the phrase "the pilot doesn't want to die" as an assurance of safety. It might be true and it might resonate at first contact, but can easy be unpicked with basic logic. Did all the pilots, or anyone else for that matter, want to die in any previous accident? It is highly likely that they didn't. So how did they die given that the safety assurance is that they don't want to die? They may have even used the same phrase in the past. But they died anuway, so what is that assurance worth?
So while these statements may be assurance for those who take everything at face value, it may well be less so for those who think a bit more about it. Therefore I would think that assurances about safety need to be much more robust and much less easy to deconstruct, if they are to be useful and not potentially detrimental.
Check lists may be considered pedantic, but they exist explicitly to ensure pilots are pedantic about their procedures. Sometimes pedantry is necessary, particularly when it comes to safety.
This is a problem that presents itself any time there are people doing specialized work around laypersons. When I was an Emergency Medical Technician there were situations that require you to cut clothes off of a person like a trauma call or cardiac arrest where you need to apply the defibrillator to the skin on the chest. A bystander may be thinking "why are they cutting this persons clothes off?" with no knowledge of the purpose or protocol behind the action. That said though I believe in the concept of 'question everything'. It's a learning opportunity.
I was always under the impression, if medical is cutting clothing off someone. you walk away and pray
"Question" as in "research", is a good thing. "Question" as in "doubt" is not so good. Assume things that you don't understand is a recipe for disaster.
awesome job.. you are a natural.. relaxed, professional yet funny too... the reason I subscribe... wishing you the best!
Great work, like your videos. I just came through SCL on Thursday as a passenger - funny to think that was probably close in time to you being in that area.
This one really hit home for me!!! Back in the mid-eighties, I was flying my weekly return flight from Bradley Field in Windsor Locks, CT to OHare. It was snowing so they were deicing the plane and I was watching them from my window seat. The truck backed right into the trailing edge of the flaps and put a large V shaped divot in it. Enough to shake the plane and alert everyone that something had happened. The pilots inspected the damage, ran the flaps up and down a few times and then out came the speed tape!!! I watched them drying off the area with rags and a torch and covering the area with MANY pieces of tape. I'd guess the dent was a foot deep. The pilot then came on the speaker and explained the problem, giving anyone who wanted to get off and take another flight tomorrow the opportunity to do that. They had to get back to Chicago for repairs since that was the United hub. I figured, like you said, they didn't want to die anymore than I did. I had already survived two planes with engines out, trying to land in Indianapolis in a tornado, landing on the wrong runway in Zurich, and landing on a taxiway in OHare with Joe's Flying Service (twin engine Cessna), so what the hell!!!
Omg you either fly too much, or pick the wrong planes xD
@@Taka.1011 😋 a million miles between United and Delta. Too damn much. 😜😜🥴🥴
You can get speed tape from 3M. It’s literally just aluminum tape, it’s not that expensive.
$500 a roll is cheap?
@@robertheinkel6225 the high temp 2 inch stuff sure, but there are plenty of tapes for less than $60 a roll. It only has to survive 1 or 2 flights at most. That being said there is a certain kind that HAS to be used on commercial aircraft. The woman in the video simply asked about buying some, she didn’t say high temp aviation grade.
Great channel Kelsey! Keep up the good work.
Super cool! You come across so well in interviews. Swooning 🥰
Congrats on the 1 million subscribers, Kelsey. Are you going to carry the gold plaque around with you so you can set it up behind you for your videos?
K. is gold, he doesn't the plack.
Here's one for you Kelsey. :) My first flight on a 747 was around 1972 and cost ten dollars, the whole idea was to show off the brand new 747. We took off from Miami International and flew out over the Everglades for a while at very low altitude, it was he shakiest ride ever.
Years later I flew on a 747 in China. It was the oldest commercial plane I'd ever been on. The windows were so old and scratched you couldn't see out of them. There's no first class in China so the stewardess worked out of what used to be the first class section with no curtain to block our view.
The rugs on the floors were loose and so dirty the ridges sticking up were worn clean through. The best part was the bathroom. I think there may have been a sink, but the "toilet" was a piece of plywood covering up where ever the poop went. They had covered the plywood with Formica and there were tiny nails holding it down all around where the toilet seat usually is. The air conditioning seemed to be intermittent so they passed out those little Chinese paper fans to help keep us cool. Ah, the good old days. :)
Love the Hospital Gown Jams!! Lol love ya Kels!!!!
I haven't paid attention to this before but I just noticed you had 1.05M subs ! Last I noticed you were at 950k subs!
I subscribed to you before you had 500K subs & that wasn't that long ago - and I'm glad such progress happened to such a sincerely likeable and watchable content creator! Congratulations!!!!!