Asuka R# Starter Guide Review/Impressions/Early Analysis (Guilty Gear Strive)
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
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The final character of Guilty Gear Strive Season 2 is Asuka! Arc System Works dropped an overview of his special moves shortly after dropping the reveal trailer and initial match previews. This time I did things a little differently - I am commenting on each portion individually.
Original Video - • Guilty Gear -Strive- S...
0:00 - intro
1:03 - Mana (ASW description)
1:31 - Mana (My comments)
1:54 - Chant (ASW description)
3:08 - Chant (My comments)
4:21 - Spell (ASW description)
5:35 - Spell (My comments)
6:46 - Bookmarks (ASW description)
7:12 - Bookmarks (My comments)
8:03 - Recover Mana (ASW description)
8:27 - Recover Mana (My comments)
9:04 - Change Test Case (ASW description)
10:09 - Change Test Case (My comments)
13:18 - High Compression Submicron Particle Sphere (ASW description)
13:41 - High Compression Submicron Particle Sphere (My comments)
14:46 - Bookmark Full Order (ASW Description)
15:31 - Bookmark Full Order (My Comments)
16:57 - Closing Thoughts
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(Reason: You do think to slowly)
I take it back is not the speed is the tone been to flat.
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I love the idea of Asuka needing actual bookmarks to find his spells, like he just doesn't know where any of these spells are and his entire combat system entirely relies on his bookmarks not falling out mid-combat.
Like, imagine he drops his book and all the bookmarks fall out and he just stops fighting because he has to check the glossary whenever he wants to cast a spell.
FULL BORDER
AKA *WTF is it?!*
XD
Future patch notes for Asuka are gonna be 5 pages long just covering spells
I will live knowing that I will never even try to learn this guy but instead watch and live vicariously off of someone who’s dedicated enough to master this character
Yeah I'm not trying to play a RPG In a fighting game 😂
@@xcreenplay7264 Finally, my time has come
gotta learn him to beat him
Ah a watcher huh?
@@granddaddy_funk some say a voyeur!
I appreciate that his inputs seem simple with the cancel inputs, so you can apply all that mental stack to card counting
15:38 it's not the DLC characters, it's all the characters from the Backyard. Ramlethal, Elphelt and Jack'O are essentially "3d fighting game", "First person shooter" and "Realtime strategy". That Man is definitely Magic : The Gathering with 3 decks, haha!
He got the Modern, Standard, and Commander deck
@@Skaypegote 15:02 IN RESPONSE--
Elphelt doesn't play anything like a first person shooter what are you talking about
@@NeoBoneGirl that's what the inspiration was, obviously a fighting game character is not going to play like a first person shooter and i don't need to explain why.
I get that with Elphelt and JackO but not quite sure I see how ramlethal fits a 3D fighter
I love how fast you get these out every time while still having interesting to say
Yeah mf is on the grind in the most optimal way it’s crazy
tch...
Stayed up until 4 am but it was worth hahaha, thanks
@@LordKnightfgc that’s when the real interesting thoughts start though!
One interesting thing of note is that he’ll only ever have one spell card for his ice-spire dp and that it’ll always be part of test case one. Definitely something you should keep in mind when playing as or against him.
the three decks seems to be (1) safe allround/defense, (2) midrange offensive, and (3) FUCK IT WE D-D-D-D-DUEL
Surely he has a 5p..
Ice Spire is restricted in vintage format. you can only have one in your deck
@@feryparera6748 No true Asuka player will remember he has buttons besides "spit all the shit you can" and "recharge your spit"
@@feryparera6748 6P or 5P?
My nigga I need a bachelors to play this character. But Asuka def looks fun
What I love about this kit, and whats not uncommon in ArcSys games either, is that it sounds like one of those movesets you'd read by a 14 year old just putting all the 'cool ideas' that come to mind onto a notepad doc. The kind where you read it and go "yeah this is way too overly complicated, would never work, and probably take too many resources to even make." Then here comes ArcSys and goes "yo, xX_DanteFan2001 has some sick ideas; lets make it work"
I think the only difference between orb super P and K is P is affected by the gravity and speed up staves, and K isn't.
From what they said, there isn't anything else about those.
you could set up a staff to condition an opponent into expecting the trajectory of Punch Orb in relation to the speed-up/magnet staff in order to snipe them with the Kick version
Or use the Kick orb while a speed staff is up in order to retain an aspect of pressure rather than have it hit or whiff due to speed
Thats what it seems like but also when he used the super the second time he did it faster so it could be that he just fired it off before the gravity could kick in
Could probably set up crazy chip damage situations with the super and gravity staff, depending on how long it lasts
@@KingNothing1st yea im already seeing what i think might be a good chip dmg set up, with the gravity staff and you throw out those muilti 5 block projectiles a super and maybe a few other projectiles if they all start swirling around the staff you can run and jump into the center of it and then teleport swap places with the opponent and completely cuck them lmao
@@HurleyMan-6895 if they're in block stun the left right won't matter too much other than being an easy side swap, probably easier to go for an overhead/low mix.
Being able to stall in the air with bookmark might lead to some interesting mix ups too, depending on how fast he can act out of it
Aerial lows are back baby, get fucking mixed.
5:57 unlike arbiter sign he can use chant in the air meaning he can throw out aerial lows, which we actually saw him do in the gameplay video
Yes, this character with good play will have many unblockable set ups, i fear the person that puts in the time to main and figure out these set ups
@@HurleyMan-6895 The only real way he'd have unblockable setups is if he uses the low-high spells with RC, so that'd cost meter. It's not going to be as easy as it sounds.
@@ItsukiKuroPrisuner12K96 i didnt say it would be easy but he will most def have them, high/low projectiles, teleport and enemy swap ports, delayed timing and gravity well alterations, the possibilities are near endless
This is the coolest character in strive by a large margin i cant wait to actually grind a character now
do you need to buy characters like in sfv?
@@ryanryan4223 ya he is the final character of the season 2 pass
Grind a character? Why u say it like that
Test case fitting into different three different archtypes is so smart. It's a great way to guard against overwhelming the player. He's almost a stance character, it's really cool.
Although he looks super complicated, I like how you can still probably start out by just spamming spells/managing resources and slowly get a feel for the "flow" of different sequences of spells and the feeling of the different decks
Characters having multiple ways to alter their frame data at the end of blockstrings is such a breath of fresh air, since we don't have many jump-cancellable normals. Testament does that reasonably well with partial charge Grave Reaper, and I think I might like this one a lot more.
The one annoying thing compared to other item characters will be getting used to the spell button changing wildly with card position all the time. It's a very different dynamic, and each deck of cards will have it's own flow (although some of the spells are shared between all decks).
Something to note about the decks is they all have the 3 basic projectile spells in them, meaning youll likely always have access at some point to a basic fireball. Because of this think that deck 2 will end up being the most well rounded, since it allows you to be more aggressive while still having said basic projectiles
Yes .
Case1 had fire balls alike generally around 5 usage but lack utility result in very straightforward zoner pressure.
Case2 has most card around 3 , very even and excel in offence mix up .
Case3 do werid things 😂
Kept in mind the "sample404" card has ability to copy card from other deck , theoretically 3 DP round could happens once in a blue moon
They did talk about the K version of the super, the only difference between them is that the P version is affected by the Staffs efects, while the K version is not and only goes straight.
I think they did mention what the k super does though. It is unaffected by the staff cards that alter the properties of your projectiles so that you don't have to worry about them messing up a combo.
Can't wait for Asuka mains to flip flop from "this character works too hard i die just for trying to use my shit" to "look at this sick ToD i got by stacking my deck" constantly in week 1
Great video as always LK ☺
I noticed in the vs Pot footage that he destroys a cube with far S. and I think he destroys a staff too. If this works with all normals, Asuka may struggle in some match ups where characters can keep hitboxes up.
My first guesses for "this is going to be completely degenerate" are the spell that sucks in projectiles for oki and the spell that produces 2 waves of cubes. Due to the interactions with his resource, I'm also curious how canceling into the recover/redraw cards is going to play out. Imagining him just dumping a full mana bar with discount spells, redrawing with another spell, then dumping another one.
Pullin' up to the function with the Ancestral Recall on 50% tension
I really hope that we get more characters like this, all the dlc have been cool but this is the first time I’m so impressed with the how they took a high concept into a streamlined functioning character. Can’t wait to try him!
asuka is so sick. i want to come back to strive just for this
I like how the symbols for his test cases are all phases of the moon: a waxing/waning crescent, waxing/waning gibbous, and full moon
I think technically both the crescent and gibbous are waning but considering the order 1-3 they are probably meant to be waxing building up to the full moon
I feel like the high mental stack of playing this character combined with having to keep an eye on his meters might make it easier to mix him
I think hitting the orbs and his staff’ll actually be a pretty important thing for counter-play and knowing when to get a projectile off the screen and how to go about getting rid of the staff and everything. They showed it in the gameplay and it seems pretty neat.
I could also be completely wrong but idk, thought it was pretty neat
In a game like strive, this movelist size including spells is huge compared to other characters. In tekken, this is still a small movelist with most characters having 80-100 moves. Then a character like Xiayou or Hworang exists that have even more moves and they are tricky. Those characters can be awful to fight because of how much knowledge checking they can do. But in this game, having to only know like 30 spells isn’t that actually as bad as I first thought it would be.
This character looks hype as hell but I would have to play the game so much more than I currently do to really play him... But I'm considering making it happen. The fantasy of popping the bookmark reload super and making lightning speed synergy evaluations calls to me.
Starter guide is the longest by far, out of all the characters... and they basically at some point said: Fuck you we aren't explaining all the spells go look it up in game.
i can feel my brain expanding every second of asuka gameplay that i watch
One thing I find interesting is that people will be able to do "card counting" with his spells.
For example, if you're using test case 3, and you only used teleport once, you can tell how likely you are to get teleport spell based on the number of spells you have left in the test case.
Chance for teleport = Number of unused teleports in test case / Number of spells left in the test case.
Hopefuly the decks/spell strength is varied enough so he swaps midround instead of just "pick the deck with the most of X card and fish"
For the supers I think they show both. The P super is a cube and is affected by other spells (like all his other cubes) and the K version is a sphere and it just shoots forward and ignores the staff.
The person that puts the time into this character will be godly, i already know this guy is going to have multiple unblockable set ups with high low and left right mixes
sin died so we could get that man. totally worth.
also they really showed asuka desperately drawing for a reversal with the super lmao
You're going to be feeling like an untouchable master wizard, the universe at your fingertips, and then sol, leo or nago are going to punch you in the face and steal your lunch money.
I am legitimately considering changing my top row buttons to P/K/S/HS in preparation for Asuka so that his gauges on screen better match what buttons I need to press, and also a little bit because my current layout is maybe a little too special, and it would make the FD/6P OS easier.
He looks insane and so much fun, but I also know that I'm terrible at learning deep technical characters, so I'm wondering if this could help me in the long run once I develop the new muscle memory.
In the long run? No. Becuase in the long run you should be able to build muscle memory for whatever your button lay out is. I think making your top row how you suggested would only hurt you.
I believe in the version of you that can remember bookmarks to buttons on your preffered layout
yeah changing control layout past the early stages of learning a game is rarely worth the opportunity cost
You go in with that mindset and it's already over for you lol
@@jayhit4212 I think the thing is that I'm rethinking what actually is my preferred layout, and why that might not be the one I'm currently using. It's not the first time I'm switching it out either, so I'm not that adverse to the process of overwriting old muscle memory. My current layout is purely based on what is easiest ergonomically, but I'm just considering the possibility of P/K/S/HS feeling comfortable enough while having the upside of making more sense for my hands and connecting them to what I'm reading on the screen. I wouldn't change it for Asuka alone as he would only be my secondary, so it would be in service of what layout would I want to stick with going forward, and using learning Asuka as the inspiration for that.
@@Duskia I think you're assuming a lot about my mindset and bringing an arrogant attitude when all I'm doing is thinking out loud about something in hopes of getting feedback or a potential discussion from the community.
I dunno if this jumped to mind for anyone else, but the more I saw how Change Test Case works, I was thinking a lot of the moon system from Actress Again, and how it can (potentially) change the playstyle and pace of the match,. I'm sure there's probably gonna be a build that is better than the other two, but even so, this is probably one of the most interesting characters that Arcsys has put out in a while, if not for this season. I'm very excited to play them and see what people can do with Asuka.
I love how he has a unique direction cancel, I just wonder if you have to use it after the first cast because I highly doubt they'd let us cancel into another cancel
It seems like you can do a chant into a chant cancel and rapid fire all your spells and maybe during the animation you can do bookmark cancel to keep refilling, most likely you wont be able to do chant into bookmark into chant cancel, think of it like chant and chant cancel being the same in that after any chant you can do a bookmark or mana refill cancel but once you do bookmark cancel or mana refill cancel you will have to do a regular qcf chant in order to keep goin, so in theory you can always have your slots full with good play, if he can just chain together whatever cancels he wants this character with be nuts and similar to happy chaos
@@HurleyMan-6895 no yeah I saw that you can chant 4 times back to back, but what I don't think you can do is chant, into mana, into draw
@@nkirmath8621 yea most likely, my guess is that once you use a mana, bookmark, or change case cancel thats the end of the chain, but in a scary future it also seems like those animations can be cancelled with a qcf chant. Tbh both are still scary possibilities lol
@@HurleyMan-6895 I'm thinking that after chants, you'll want to draw, then charge mana with a manual cancel
@@nkirmath8621 probably charging mana will be more important than drawing since you dont want to run out of mana to keep your defense up, im not entirely sure but maybe after a case change your slot will automatically be filled if there isnt something there
Pretty sure the K version of the projectile super is just unaffected by spells, you see a cube version that gets sucked in to the staff and a sphere version that goes straight forward and ignores staff
Im thinking of getting strive, the only arc system game i played was dbfz, would the change be difficult or relativity easy?
Finally a character that i can play the Japanese Yu-Gi-Oh OST with and it'll be hype ever single time. I'm definitely hitting fools with Passionate Duelist every single time.
the kick version of the super is spherical and not affected by other ability
The fact that chant is air ok means he can likely do a low from midair
His 6H seems pretty good. Pretty fast overhead, long range, launches, and special cancellable.
Im probably wrong here but on his particle super it looks like the only difference between the punch and kick version is that the kick version does not interact with his other spells, in the demonstration you see that he uses the gravity staff both times but only one of them gets pulled in, take it with a grain of salt that this could be false because the second time it looks like he just uses the super faster so it could be that the projectile just traveled across the screen before the gravity staff could fully kick in
There’s so much to think about and look at he’s not my kind of character but he seems cool and fun
The first thing I've noticed with the three decks is the distribution of the low and overhead projectile. Deck 1 has 1 of each, Deck 2 has 3 of each, and Deck 3 has none. Deck 3 does have 4 of the 'two-wave of cubes' projectiles and 4 teleports. So Week 1 Asuka might just wanna dip into Test Case 3 to get those since they're the most obviously useful spells for doing grimy shit.
I do notice that Deck 1 curiously only has 1 of an ice looking projectile which makes me curious if it's something strong like a invincible projectile.
At 15:05 we see him going through bandit bringer with it so it's probably a dp
I think Test Case 2 will end up being the one that is the strongest.
You're basically playing for Exodia, because if you can stock the low and the overhead, you've got a pseudo unblockable, because any string can immediately go into a low > high or high > low and give you a combo.
Continually impressed by how ASW can design a character as complex as this while making everything pretty clear and intuitive as far as mechanics go for both the player and the opponent. I only hope that one of his cases isn't so much stronger than the others that it dominates usage time.
I'm kinda concerned about the viability of deck one. The demonstration was showing Pot of all people wiping out the cubes with F.S and 2H of all things. The three hit cube will probably beat me since it's a three hitter.
Another concern is whether these projectiles even count as projectiles if the properties are weird.
Also curious about how his mana drains are calculated and whether it's hit based or damage based.
Will lustshaker drain all the mana because it's bajillion hits? or will Potbuster's damage be the massive mana drainer due to the damage?
I'm never switching off the haha funny deck
So basically get knockdown in test case two and then use S super to grab both overhead and low for meaty mix. Brother, this is gonna be a fun character.
I really hope one of his victory quotes is “It seems the deck was stacked against you.”
15:01 "Where's the F'n OUT?!"
XD
So if I'm getting this right, it's kind of like three UMVC3 Phoenix Wrights in one character but he's a zoner instead?
He has 26* unique spells (there are 6 versions of the staff that i counted individually, if you dont then only 20) which are alot but since most spells overlap testcases its a little less complicated than it looks
how do you count 9 versions of the staff when the cheat sheet literally says there’s only 6, and each test case has 2 different staves that aren’t including in the others
Looking at the cheat sheet I only see 6 different staves with 2 in each test case. Am I just missing the the other 3?
@@spike4124 I heard LK say 9 the phantom and it messed my count up
I'm pretty sure the only different between the P Super and the K Super is whether or not the staffs change their movement. The K version should just always go straight, while the P gets sucked in.
Thats what i think too based on what they show cause he used the gravity staff both time but also he did fire off the second example faster than the first so it could be that the projectile just traveled across the screen before the grabity actually kicked in
Bro, what are your plans know that SF6 releases?
are you gonna keep being a GGS main channel.
Channel update video?
At the end they show potemkin hit spells and destroy them and even cancel off it, im a little worried about the viability of zoning with it lol, i hope its strong Ive been looking forward to a projectile throwing character
U mean themstament?
personally.. i can't wait to gravity staff + super okizeme set up tbh.
Looks like you can actually chain with one of them into more conversions. It's a weird juggle but it can be converted. Also the double wave can go into 50/50 mix ups with teleport. That is if you can teleport in front of them or in place as you can teleport in rear. He can some interesting mechanics on his projectiles. So if someone actually wants to spend time with him. They can find some good stuff. I know fgc players can be smart. There are a lot of scientists in fgc that can figure out some crazy conversions and trick with this dude. Can't wait to see what they come up with.
The weird juggle state was at 3:08. It is after the triple green cube. But it is also after he was sent into the air first in the order placed. May be other juggles that can do it. But also notice that the cubes were able to slow down on that spot for him to land on the bottom cube to juggle further. It was 2 blue cubes into the triple green cube. But also has taken out staff.
Edit: Sorry for the long comment. Just excited and also learning and writing as I watch. The staff does it! So this dude is a technical character and may be a skill ceiling type of character. I am so down for him. Secondary is replaced by this dude. There are great conversions with staff. Thanks for the video.
Edit 2: This character will probably be one of those characters that will need the most attention to master and will always be finding new stuff from time to time. It's not a pick up and go character to use at an extremely high and technically skilled level. There is so much. The amount of possibilities and combinations. It's seriously is a lot to take in and stuff.
They did actually show off both versions of the Orb super. One interacts with the staffs and one doesn't.
Asuka looks so good, I feel like he might be overpowered in 2 years when people actually play him correctly.
15:40 if Backyard-related characters are based in other video game genres, how about a Summoner with Dating Sim mechanics?
Multiple summons, but favor one and the others are less effective or refuse you?
Being aggressive gauns favor of one Summon, for example.
Or s command Throw involve one if the summons so if course he gets happier if you spam it...
Hit celestial with jacko and millia, and kind of dropped out of the game afterwards. Was hoping a new character would pull me back in, but I’m not at all interested in learning this shit. Maybe season 3 will have someone that pulls me back in.
we need spell tier list
You'll have to be some kind of genius to play this character at max efficiency. Mad respect to anyone picking up Asuka. As soon as Knight started on Bookmarks i mentally signed out lol!!
Closed of season 2 with a bang
Really wondering how Asuka is gonna look when people start cooking with him 😂
I think they did a good job of making him fit his lore, while also making him a new and exciting character. Now we just need someone to master him, get to Evo Grand finals, and fight a Sol player for the real lore win.
I’m ngl this seems like a chess character in a checkers game like holy shit. I guess the first thing I’m gonna look for is what diaphone is finna w this guy😭
In this boheemath typhoon
So my question: can you “deck out”? Like if you spend all 30 spell cards, does the Test Case/deck get reset and reshuffled or is it just gone and done? Mind you this is probably a fringe case but I’m just curious.
If you look on the screen where it shows the different test cases, it says that if you use all the spells, the deck gets reshuffled.
@@crts913 Nice, thanks!
I also notice that there are duplicate spells in each test case. I'll bet the unique spells to each test case are the most desirable ones by a mile.
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THIS NEXT SONG IS SPONSORED BY 📣📣📣 THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT 🕴️🕴️
The more I watch this the more I can't help but think this is how the Smash version of Hero would be implemented if GG if they were a character. Only difference is there is no menu to pick from just hope the cards line up.
I said the same thing to my friend, he’s hero from smash on crack lol
Chant being Air OK and one of his spells being a low makes me wonder if he has an Aerial Low
Terra Metron
Well here the guilty gear nine the phantom
I think he doesn't have a reversal super and you have to Bookmark Full Order into the DP for your reversal lol
He looks complicated but I'm just gonna stay in test case 1 and spam projectiles.
It was confusing for me at first. They should've talk about change test case first, then bookmark... And at the end say that it cost mana.
Tell us we need a specific group of card to choose from; That you need to bookmark to switch and that you need mana to do it.
Every ASW character i will never bother labbing defense against
I'm really disappointed that we got him instead of Slayer but this still has to be the coolest mechanical representation of a spellcaster character in a fighting game that I've seen.
Lord Knight interested in the Epic level wizard? Say it ain't so. Lol.
Daisuke in inteviews: "We think the game wasn't clear enough, going forward we'd like to have eased new players better"
Daisuke in design: "Here's a character with more icons than an MMO"
Case 3 aka "I'm just a funny little guy"
The fact that chant can be cancelled into > bookmark, recover mana , change test case and itself, is actually nuts.
Like....pray to god the overhead and the low arent cancellable.
They most likely will be, be prepared for tons of unblockable set ups and even if those cant be cancelled he can use the low spell in air
@@HurleyMan-6895
I'd be shocked if they let true unblockables into this game. I'm sure there might be VERY hard to block mix, but I feel like trends have drawn away from simultaneous High + Low being unblockable.
@@HurleyMan-6895 there will be no unblockables....but teleport left rights will be real af
@@peerlessvillain i find it weird that yall can confidently say there will be no unblockables when this man has air lows and can delay the timing of his projectiles and how they hit with the staffs, trust and believe someone will find it
I hope he is good, because he certainly looks hard to use
This is giving me Nine The Phantom ptsd
ok but why isn't High Compression Submicron Particle Sphere a sphere tho? IT'S A CUBE
The K version is a sphere actually lol.
This is why you can't trust wizards.
oh, and for the record, every time you use the "search" super you're legally obliged to yell: "HEART OF THE CARDS, GUIDE ME!"
Asuka my guy that is not a sphere.
Suppose you're in a deck that has like 2x 2x 2x the best spell and you already used all 6 in your first 10 spells. Bookmark Full Order + mashing x 20 inputs in the timeframe = reset to a new deck to try and get them again? Gonna have to warm up my mashing before each set
Imagine pulling up to a dude about to fight and he just goes "Have you heard of hit indie game slay the spire" and starts to assemble a deck
Hisouten players this ones for you.
poor dustloop
where is reaction
This character sacrifices health and metrr to zone, and has great round-start options
So it seems like he's a good early game zoner, but a bad late game zoner