Conversations: Featuring Peter Hitchens II
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- Peter Hitchens is a British journalist, author and broadcaster who speaks from a singular perspective. He is perhaps the most astute observer of our contemporary condition there is and is prepared to call things just as he sees them.
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Peter, we are listening my friend. God bless you.
Peter Hitchens was right when he said that the EU is the continuation of Germany by other means.
Peter's work is far more valuable than he realizes. His battle weariness is a result of him not taking proper account of: “Society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.”
What a fantastic quote , thank you . I`m 50 , and I have never heard those wise words . I`ll be adding that to my memory . Thanks again :)
Absolutely ❤️
Absolutely brilliant 👏👏👏
Cheers, Boatface.
perfect analogy.
Hats off to John Anderson for being endlessly patient, polite, and pleasant.
@@joebryant8500 Well, the whole reason for these conversations is to give a platform to people who Anderson thinks have valuable insight. The more talking his guests do, the better.
@@shok24199 I'm very interested to hear Peter Hitchens' perspective and I enjoyed this interview, but he does have the same habit of talking over people that his brother used to have. He'll stop talking and essentially communicate nonverbally that he has said what he wanted to say, and then the *very moment* the interviewer starts a sentence, he'll begin talking over him.
@@internetguy8075 Haha,yes he does that all the time the old blighter. Almost seems to get a wee kick out of telling us were doomed. Maybe just the curmudgeonly age hes at.
Great interviewer though.Intelligent,Genuinely concerned about the topics,lets the guests talk
yes very good interviewer
@@MrSilverbirch I do like listening to Peter Hitchens and he is right about the cultural revolution, but I find him a little too pessimistic. Have a little faith in we the people.
"They are not going to be distressed if rational debate disappears." Quote of the interview.
so what.
It saddens me to see Peter feeling so defeated. It saddens me even more that he might be right to despair.
Your work, Peter, may not be effective NOW, IMMEDIATELY, but it is working its way through many minds, including mine, and is strengthening and motivating us. You will work through US, long after you have gone from this miserable planet.
I don't think Peter is fully attuned to the revolution that is happening quietly online. He is himself too respectful of mainstream media commentators as the shapers of social consciousness but in fact they're not. The revolution will not be televised 😁🤣😂
@farenheit041 Use english you gibbering clod.
I'd agree, and can name a few more who I know that also think that way. Peter's is one of a few voices that are ringing the common sense bell in what they say - with historical context. That combined with the wealth of readily available info on the last century leading to where we are now is almost keeping things from going past the point of no return.
This planet is not miserable.
@@gamingwithslacker The best possible conditions of life on this planet are miserable, ghastly and horrific.
John is going to be my favorite Aussie if he keeps getting all these good discussions rolling.
Peter Hitchens is right when he said the EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. The EU is run on an old german foreign policy model called limited sovereignty. It's not about independence.
@@susannamarker2582 all government by nature is tyrannical. Knowing what it is and why it exists should be known. When forgotten is where the bloody problem is
@@robertbeckler5058 Yes, or when you're not being told by your own government that most of your laws come from somewhere else. That's why Brexit is so important.
Peter Hitchens is a sharp observer. He points out, which many miss, that Brexit is a combination of disenfranchised Conservative and Labour voters. Peter has made a difference. He is a voice. He has battle fatigue.
He does indeed have battle fatigue, but he has not only lost hope, but he's going to doggedly cling to his visceral pessimism. For a person who admired him, I find this more than sad.
@@warty3620 Personally I think his battle has always been against Christopher's reputation!
However, the outcome of the battle remains in doubt. A break with the Continent would be beneficial to the country, but the more likely outcome is being chained to a failed enterprise.
That’s stating the obvious. Peter has made much more profound observations than that.
@Nigel Kipling I disagree. He has taken a lot of heat and he is earnest on his beliefs. He just doesn't see current hope. He is not happy with the Bolshies and that is obvious.
Peter may see no political effect of his work, but he has planted seeds in the minds of men, let them know they are not mad or alone, helped them clarify their own thinking, and has been an exemplar of speaking the truth in oppressive times. Who but God can know the end of his contribution?
Agreed, well said.
So very good. Love seeing Peter with someone here seems to enjoy the company of :)
God bless you Peter, keep at it
Peter Hitchens was right when he said that the EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. The EU is run on an old german foreign policy model called limited sovereignty. Hitchens was right there.
This brilliant, wise man embodies the term "black-pilled".
I wish John would've put that to him.
I would love to hear his response to being associated with the 'doomer' and 'black pill' memes
@@sratus He would enthusiastically mock them, then he would completely agree with the sentiment as he has so often announced his resignation to what in his view, is the doomed fate of the west, and the world in general.
I find his pessism soothing
This is my first time hearing him speak, to my great dismay! He's having a rough time of it, as am I. But, tomorrow is not yet written. 😉
"Join the dots" indeed... they lead all to Christianity, or back to primitive hell.
Read René Girard.
Thank you John for your optimistic contribution to the rescue of our culture.
... and God protect Peter Hitchens, the wise one.
He does make a difference, it's partly people like him that have forced me to re-examine Christianity.
Christianity and catholism is a Jewish DLC forced on native europeans
Don't bother. Christianity has largely gotten us to this sad state of affairs - Christian doctrine is all about one's own 'self-preservation', which is just another word for 'individualism'. Paganism is the native religion of Europeans. And we still have Pagan traditions, they're just masked as 'Christian traditions', which is indictive of the subversive nature of Christianity.
king of the celts, just what is wrong with "individualism"? Some would say the embrace of Marxism, initiated through the lens of "rich v. poor", since swapped with one of "oppressed v. oppressor", is what has led us here. Not Christianity but the abandonment of Christian principles in favor of Marxist-style warfare. It comes down to whether you believe in the Marxist POV that your nature / individualism is dictated by society or was gifted to you by God. Recent movements invested in the 19thC if not earlier attempting to alleviate privation and "equalize" people have been disastrous all throughout the last two centuries. It is the ABANDONMENT of the Christian precept of the sovereignty of the individual (and the responsibility that accompanies that value), that allowed counterproductive cultures to gain a foothold. Post-reformation Christianity was a boon to Western society and the abandonment of those principles in favor of grievance politics (i.e., selfishness), is what is responsible for the worsening state we're in. Individualism seems much more conducive to a functional society than collectivism.
I'm agnostic, by the way.
Celts. I wouldn't know about that... If not, then care to expatiate on the assertation "somebody" tried this?
Nonetheless... I think we have some common ground in terms if our opinion of a certain group...
@brent smith Christianity emphasised individual rights and responsibilities in a Roman Empire where the human individual was no more than a machine. Rather like now. The Celts were head hunters who sought to appease the gods with human sacrifices. Seeing the pre-Christian world through heavy metal, comic books and neo-Pagan fashion cues is escapism, not metaphysics.
Peter Hitchens is a great man, I truly hope he understands how much he has positively influenced my life, and many others. I know he has lost hope and I often lose hope when I look at the direction our European culture is heading in. I feel like the world is just becoming so depraved, shallow and narcissistic sometimes I actually start to hope for the end.
But we must all maintain hope. We can affect people even if we don’t see it. For example Peter maintains that he’s made no difference and “may as well have gone to the beach” but he is one of the many, if not the biggest factors that forced me to reassess my position on faith. If it weren’t for him I may never have found my way back to the faith of my childhood, Christianity.
As far as I’m concerned, if you can bring just one person back to the conservative, Christian worldview then your effort has not been in vain! Always remember, there are more of us out there than it appears. The trouble with our demographic is that we tend to be quiet, hard working, conscientious and somewhat timid- in comparison to our lgbt/antifa/left wing counterparts, but don’t lose sight of the fact that our numbers are growing by the day :)
Seán O'Nilbud righto???
@@yes2truth Your fear of Jews is amusing you pointless gullible coward.
@Bugle Boy Run along serf, your boring fear is tedious.
@John Smith These filthy right wing cowards all prefer simpleminded stories to facts. Evangelicals have done a lot more harm than Jews, they started Zionism not the Jews. Black propaganda between the corporations owned by Du Pont and Rockefeller has lasted nearly 150 years. The Protocols of the elders of Zion which was written by The Russian Royalist Secret Service to discredit Bolsheviks and Zionists is still hooking retards after a similar timescale.
@John Smith You might want to consider who you're running with then.
First time i see Hitchens smile is when hes talking about how he irritates everyone what a charactar
That's his m.o. pretty much the artificial antithesis of his brother.
A great and wise man
Thank you Mr Hitchens
I admire John Anderson's repeated attempts over two interviews to find an optimistic conclusion.
Lol
Unfortunately if you've watched enough of Peter Hitchens it is a doomed endeavour.............
John Anderson is just a stupid boomer looking to get off the hook for being a member of the generation that’s done more for white genocide than any previous
@@vixendixon6943 Seriously, are you a complete half-wit.
@@romeotango8324 Do you mean he thinks like an identitarian or is that you?
Hitchens was one of the most impactful voice I have encountered so far. Transformed many of my worldviews, a truly splendid man.
He has changed my life.
U r easily persuaded by a charlatan!
Hitchens was right when he said that the EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. The whole EU is run on an old german foreign policy model called limited sovereignty. It's not about independence.
@@nixl3518 Play the ball, not the player.
@@susannamarker2582 If you notice the heading of this clip, he IS the ball!! Thank you for emphasizing! :)
BTW, Conspiracy theories abound in the EU as well as in the US!! This idiot is a prime resource for such misguidance. You have to learn to discriminate between those and reality.
The EU is no picnic and like any other federation its a constant struggle to keep it together for the GREATER GOOD. That there are many elements that desire it's dissolution is no surprise! They pounced on Cameron's idiocy, he paid the price and they succeeded with GB which fortunately resulted in a huddling for the the other nations. GB is in crisis presently while doofus Boris pretends all is well. The curtain will fall when his reign ends if not before.
GB has lacked smart politicians for decades allowing weak PMs to lead a listless ship. Only in such incoherent times could a carpetbagger like Boris fill the gap. There was not a single person willing to lead so the king's joker filled the gap! A tragedy GB will be paying for the rest of her existence.
John: The most appalling epithets are thrown at people to silence them. And the cost is reasoned and rational discussion.
Peter: Yes, but the people who are engaging in this in many cases don't particularly *want* reasoned, rational discussion. They just want to silence opposition to what they're doing.
[Because what they're doing can't stand *up* to any reasoned, rational discussion.]
lovely to hear pete and john together. shivers of truth.
Love Peter Hitchens. I may not agree with everything he says but it's so refreshing to hear a truly alternative viewpoint that is rarely or never heard in the MSM - and from someone so well informed and eloquent. Buck up Peter - there are very many people out there who are grateful for your voice.
Peter; Please recklessly continue what you have been doing, soon - from those ordinary people who have taken to heart what you have been saying - will rise up sensible leading individuals. You do make a difference!!!!
I love how Peter will only ever say precisely what he thinks, without any concern for nicety.
This is a f interview which is supposed to be about him. I like when ppl are straight down the line.
I'm one of those young Australians mentioned above. It's not hyperbole to say that discovering the works of Christopher Hitchens changed my life and while I don't agree with many of Peter's core beliefs, he's always fascinating to read and listen to. Thank you for the videos John.
The more people that truly listen. The more potential for hope. Spread the word.
God Bless Peter...one of the greatest men of our time
"Where do all the highways go now that we are free?"
They go in ever decreasing circles and disappear up the place where the sun don't shine.
Peter Hitchens is an incredible person who has had a impact and will have a much greater one though it's hard to say when. Hugh fan, another one.
absolutely delightful conversation
The best interview with Peter Hitchens I have yet seen. Thank you very much.
This guy has been so on point, and for such a long time. Fantastic content here. When will the radical left stop? He thinks it is too late...I'm afraid I think he is right
We need to look to some of the former Eastern Block countries for inspiration. Things may get worse here and in the UK, but it is not too late. Our time span needs to be a lot longer.
America and Western Europe are finished. I still have hope in Eastern Europe.
The West’s continual effort to deconstruct it’s own thought, law and institutions will finally get its wish. God help us
@@warty3620 No, they're too collectivist in their thinking, the eastern european states were subjected to the USSR for too long.
Peter Hitchens was right when he said that the EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. The EU is run on an old german foreign policy model called limited sovereignty. It's not about independent nations.
I'm reminded of that great old classic movie with James Stewart, 'Its a wonderful life' where he doubted his worth in the scheme of things.
From where I stand he of course along with his brother Christopher are both wonderful commentators on the political and social landscape and for me both an invaluable resource to this modern heretical schism between faith and reason. I realize I am not alone in this but it increasingly seems that way. The tide of mediocrity in education the digitized dilution of argument and the righteousness of pure vanity is an impossible battle. Still I for one was very excited to see him back.
Thanks for this. I love listening to the exchange of reasoned, rational ideas. Please have Peter on again soon.
thank you for the excellent interview ...
Thank you. very inspiring …we are listening and learning ..great conversation. Answering and teasing important issues
Terrific interview. Hitchens is a national treasure.
His own country does not realise that
16:30 , the Great Awakening in the Colonies 1730-1760 impacted us greatly through the early 19th century . We are in great need of such events ...
Love these videos by John Anderson.
Good to see John Anderson here as interviewer. He was a thoughtful and genuine Deputy Prime Minister, and he has brought these qualities to these discussions/interviews.
Thank you for posting this, a refreshing oasis in a vast barren wilderness. Peter, you have touched more than you know.
What an interesting interview. Peter Hitchens and John Anderson refreshing as usual.
I am always interested in what Hitchens has to say. I have read articles he has written and I am in agreement with some of his ideas. However, he can come across as bitter and even depressed. It does sound as though he has 'given up' and I can understand why. The most animated I have seen him was the day after the EU Referendum when he seemed delighted at the Leave result. In the current climate of the censorship of dissenting views, I am glad he is out there to counter some of the 'woke' madness, even though I disagree with some of his opinions.
Peter underestimates his influence upon a certain segment of people. His legacy will live on through their future efforts. Mine included.
Always love Peter and really liked the interviewer also.
peter hitchens has cleared up things for me a lot over the last 5 years
he definately has an impact
but i agree that right now madness is in full swing and completely deaf to any voice
Didn't know about John Anderson before now. Good interviewer. 👍
What a difficult interview well done, as usual, by one of the most decent people on the face of the earth, namely the honorable John Anderson, who has no quit in him.
I got the sense that Peter could not speak freely because he is in the UK, otherwise he could have covered Brexit and the dismal leadership before Boris came in. Peter needs to take satisfaction that his work has reached individuals, probably lots of them. His claimed inability to get the elites to pay attention (total lack of charisma...haughty?) to him and his consequent apparent bristling capitulation is not what we need right now. We need every voice, especially a learned one, to keep at it no matter what. I agree with Mr. Anderson...never, never, never give up. You might just end up being a spark of hope in the most unpredictable places and ways.
As they say, chill, Peter, understand that Trump was elected because the alternative was unthinkable and keep up the good fight with a bit of humility mixed in for effect.
And Farage is alright.
Message received John 🇦🇺
Enjoyed both parts 1+2. Peter does not give himself enough credit in reaching people. Just because the peoplein debates ignore him and refuse rebuttals. Does not mean the people in the audience or members of the supporting opposition were not affected by his reasoning. It takes along time for grass to grow up through a concrete walkway. He should know because he was a communist and later through life experience became a Catholic.Cheer up! Peter is an excellent commentator,writer and interview.
Omg, new Peter Hitchens content. This Monday shall be a good Monday :)
M.R. Jones. Thanks for providing another author to look into. If someone would interview Hitchens about books, art, music and ask him to recite by memory his favourite poetry. That I would like to hear.
It was through reading Peter Hitchens' book, that I saw Christianity in a new light. This sparked my curiosity and I read the Bible for the first time,
that was three and a half years ago and I have been a zealous follower of Christ ever since. Is the reincarnation of John Wesley that Peter seeks, in fact... Himself?
Which book?
Normally when they don't add the book they are just trolling
I have just come across this channel and subscribed.
I had never heard of John Anderson up to this point and am impressed with his kind and gentle words of encouragement towards Peter Hitchens.
I look forward to exploring more of this channel - thank you for the interview.
John Anderson well done in finding and documenting these valuable opinions
Excellent program.Peter,i have listened to you for many years and have bought one of your books.Please don't stop your valuable work,there's loads of us who value your opinions and thoughts.
A voice in the wilderness but still inspiring. Bravo sir !
John Anderson is a treasure, an interviewer who actually listens to his guests and lets them speak. Peter Hitchens is nearly always right, and, as he says, he is nearly always ignored by politicians who haven't done their homework and don't know how to reason. In many ways, Hitchens is a throw back to the Age of Reason, when men like Milton, Locke, Mandeville, Franklin, Bacon, Voltaire, et al. believed men and society were perfectable through reason. As we see today, the great mass of men are not reasonable; they aren't even well-educated and many are not capable of logic. In most nations of the world, passion guides action, not reason -- the worse for the world.
Peter we listen, the change is building. We are growing stronger because once you see truth you can't unsee it
I really appreciate these conversations. Whether I agree with everything or not it really gets me thinking and gives me different perspectives on important matters.
We are appreciative of Peter keep it up
I don't know why this channel is not getting more views. Keep up the good work.
Peter Hitchens will be held in as a high a regard as many historical thinkers in the future.
He is simply peerless.
"I do increasingly think that politics is a false religion. And a sort of idolatry. And we've been diverted into it. And it's not the main thing that we do."
"Attempts to reform the world are largely futile. And our main duty is to reform ourselves."
11:20 "..the Battle of the Somme when we threw away the flower of our manhood in a few days.....".
Pause while interviewer changes the subject and ignores the comment altogether.
Absolutely phenomenal work Mr Anderson! Mr P. Hitchens is bang on the money with his first point, as always, neither Hitchens disappoint!
Peter’s attempts may not clearly move the VIP’s, but for me, my life is richer because of him. His books and these CZcams videos make Peter among my top five favorite commentators. God bless you, Peter. You are loved!
I find Peter a great inspiration to me to still think rationally. Many Thanks
To see the great Peter Hitchens in despair of his own contribution and the future to come. It makes one truly appreciate the magnitude of what we face.
Crossed paths with Peter for about 5 seconds once. Best 5 seconds of my life in these last three years. Now I will rate him as the world's greatest thinker. Well done Peter, I will listen to every thing you say and I will agree with at least 75% of it.
I am another one who deeply appreciates what Peter Hitchens has to say and have huge admiration for him. I miss his appearances which are very scarce these days. And Peter, you can never give up! You have no idea how many more out there are paying attention! Changes are occurring, probably not as fast as you would like to see them but they are happening, the world keeps changing and so will we. If it all ends, it will start again... who knows when, but it will. What it is heartbreaking is having to go through dying knowing that it might take a long time to get another chance.
Saddened to see such strong feelings of withdrawal & giving up in peter. Can't say i blame him though.
I think his point was that he has no hope, not that he is giving up. I believe those things are separable.
But yeah there are not many people who have given up hope so absolutely as Peter. It's a bit surprising. A bit sad. And a bit of a wake up to be honest.
@@taz0k2 He has no temporal hope, he does have eternal hope.
PH has been talked down so often that he has had to talk up and over them to be heard. He speaks so much sense and realism but gets told to stop talking and shut up he must be exhausted. I think too many virtue signal instead of letting us the audience hear him speak.
Hitchens is just a voice that should be listened to before any state decision is made on any level and johns interviews are the best ive ever seen. This is top tv so to speak.
Ps I am with John on the please do not give it up Peter. Your right and the power at the moment is wrong and John is also right that your work will become a foundation.
pps lol I think he's wrong about trump because at the moment the other side is insidious...Trump is not that.
Thank you John Anderson. This is a gem on an interview, and endlessly quotable. JA at 12:10 'Almost as though we've rediscovered burning at the stake'. PH at 13:12 'As parents, as educators, as givers of examples, my generation must be one of the worst and most reprehensible in human history'. PH at 19:45 'I might as well not have bothered'. PH at 25:12 [on Climate Change] Only submission is enough'. PH at 30:30 'Increasingly I'm convinced, in a primitive society, someone like me would have been clubbed to death quite early on, just for being annoying'. PH at 42:10 'Attempts to reform the world are largely futile, and our main duty is to reform ourselves'.
the first 30 seconds are whimsical. thank you.
Mind field by Remember the Future
Perhaps some physicist can explain how and why the all wisdom particles around the world all started to leave peoples brains to end up concentrated in Peter Hitchens during the last 30 years?
First I thought he was the stupid and ignorant evil brother of Christopher. Then I started to understand that he was right. Now I believe him to be one of the most underrated in media.
Peter Hitchens, along with other authors/ bloggers like Rod Dreher, will be considered modern-day Jeremiah's in future generations. The Baby Boomers/Gen Xers aren't listening, but us younger millennials and older Gen Z's are listening. Your efforts will not be in vain.
I'm so pleased to hear that. Some of us Boomers are listening!
Millennials and Gen Z are even more liberal then the Boomers according to recent studies. It’s game over for the West, I just hope Islam is able to defeat the left and not be subverted.
I have really enjoyed these conversations between John and Peter , fantastic insights . And , No Peter , you don`t come across as a pessimist to me , more of a realist I would say . As a matter of fact , I find your intelligent perspective incredibly refreshing . I would personally prefer a bitter truth , than a sweet lie , and God knows I am so fed up with being lied to . Thank you to John Anderson ( I would have , and should have voted for you , I just never saw the real you until you started interviewing ) , thank you to Peter , for just being yourself , and thank you to the person who posted these incredibly good video`s . I truly wish that this was the thinking that guided my society , not the insane hypocricy that now seems to ruin everything .
Peter Hitchens is a great thinker and I dare say there's not a single person on the left/liberal side of things who can match him. What worries me, though, is that this video has 37,000 views and only 1,000 likes. Come on, folks, you can do better than that!
Don't be Pilate. He also washed his hands after giving up on reasoning with the mob.
It was the jews 2000 years ago, and it is the hebrews today. AMAZING
A great critique of Peter’s perpetual pessimism. I can’t help to think of Churchill, “never give in.”
The best of the Hitchens.
Ecclesiastes 9:10
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
Doesn't sound too hopeless to me.
Hold fast guys, we're all going to make it.
And so what do you think of those other passages, also in Ecclesiastes, that tell us that being dead is better than being alive, and that never being born in the first place is best of all. How come you religionists pick and choose the passages you want to quote so readily?
@@igaraparana The verse is quoted in the interview. It's germane to the discussion.
@@igaraparana Its called context, try it some time.
I wish that Peter and John had been around when, with all the benefits of traditional neo-classical education in a former British colony, I began training as a History teacher in London in 1971. I went there with a view to being at the cutting edge of innovation in education. Thanks to Peter Hitchens I can, from the perspective of a retiree, finally understand with the benefit of his clear and incisive analysis, what has happened to history education since 1968 and why so many, young and old including professional colleagues, struggle to discuss events, past and current, in an objective and rational way.
I commend to you Peter’s discussion of the decline of history teaching in “The Abolition Of Britain”.
I want to say to you Peter Hitchens that what you have had to say all these years has impacted me and changed the way I view what is happening today. When speaking to others I often refer to you and state things as closely as I can remember your original statements. Please do not give up or stop what you’re doing. There has to be a voice of sanity and reason that we can trust in this sea of absurdity. We need you!
Speech enforcement is also done crudely by having the police visit you for the tweets you make or the videos you make. Talk to Count Dankula.
An enormous point that politics has become our idol. If Gramsci has triumphed in changing our culture, by each of us, personally, finding our way back to God as the primary way in our lives can our culture turn things back! Our only hope!
Don't stop Peter. Lots of us are pushing back and aren't so afraid to speak out as we used to be.
Peter, i have great admiration for the way you explain issues that we in Europe face. For many years i was against you and against really every British institution having been thoroughly indoctrinated into believing English people were not good. In my 40s i have now reversed my opinion having thought and watched and observed non-English people here in England, and now listen very very carefully to what you say. please dont give up. there are many people like me who are much sobered up having observed the dreadful events in this country in the last 10 years (foreign rape gangs, statues being pulled down, public speakers being deplatformed). i think there is a wind of change occurring amongst the British, and we need public speakers like yourself who will articulate our position
Would love to see a conversation/debate between Hitchens and Peterson now!
isnt this one?
@@ricdavid7476 Whaddya mean?
@@sierrabianca apologies i misread your comment. yes it would be a very interesting debate. Have the 2 of them ever had a videoed debate?
@@ricdavid7476 Not to my knowledge at least..wud be interesting to see Peterson's endless optimism go head to head with Hitchen's arch pessimism if nothing else!
@@sierrabianca Petersen is just not Peter Hitchens cup of tea at all. I dont find Mr Petersen that optomistic i must admit. I find people who are overly cerebral a bit depressing and a bit head ache making.
Perfectly put.. I have always followed Peter hitchens and his words are the truth... Particularly on Christianity and the lack thereof of religious reform... Western Christian culture is dead... Since the internet we have entered the dark ages once again
From South Carolina hear hear!
Peter should remember that Jeremiah had the same experience.
`The duty is to reform ourselves`, exactly what Jordan Peterson advocates.
When Peter says that he's , 'given up' he might finally be in a position to believe Jesus Christ when He said, 'My kingdom is no part of this world'.. God didn't bring his son into the world in order to fix the world, but rather to secure eternal salvation in God's kingdom for those who believe in His Son. Jesus stated that the way to the kingdom was narrow and straight, and few are those who will find it. While as Christians we fully understand that embracing Christian ideals even in part would make the world a better place, it was never God's intention to bring about the kingdom in that way as written in the bible. Those who mistakenly interpret Christianity as a platform for reform for the world are merely 'kicking against the goads'.. They're on a fools errand. They certainly won't succeed because it's God's will, not man's will that will be done.
@martik j Jesus said that only a minority would be Christian.. It's not that people turn away from it, it's that people were never Christians in the first place. You cannot inherit it from your parents or your culture. God gives faith in Jesus Christ.
"Those who mistakenly interpret Christianity as a platform for reform for the world are merely 'kicking against the goads'.. They're on a fools errand. They certainly won't succeed because it's God's will, not man's will that will be done."
What is foolish is supposing that communism and tyranny and insanity is just as good as the opposite. There is nothing wrong with desiring a better situation in our own lives and in the world around us, as we go about our Father's business. What is different for the Christian is we do not need to despair in the same way that carnal unbelievers do when things don't go our way. We do what seems best here and now in this world but our true and ultimate hope is in the next world.
Like Jesus said, it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to those by whom offenses come.
Matthew 18:
"7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! "
@martik j Bryan Denlinger can teach you a lot..he has a CZcams channel. And purchase a KJV Bible
Watching Christopher and Peter for years, I have always noticed both brothers have long pauses and then proceed to talk after the interviewer assumes them finished.
It would be fascinating to know what it was in their upbringing that made them such fiercely competitive achievers. I knew an otherwise reasonable chap who had terrible table manners. He claimed he was one of six siblings and his parents only ever set helpings for five to encourage ambition in the children.
Peter Hitchens: "Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might."
Also Peter Hitchens: "I've given up!"
The Bible clearly predicts that evil men shall wax worse and worse and that men's hearts shall fail within them...
It is fast approaching the time when we can just look up because our redemption is drawing near if we love Jesus the Messiah and are eagerly watching and waiting for Him to return to judge this wicked generation who are proudly trampling down the just men like Mr Hitchens.
May the Lord strengthen you and give you His peace..
Let us not grow weary in well doing for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Love to all in Christ
Simply peerless.
Mr Hitchens has done his best, and he has done well. Like the prophet Jeremiah, it was his fate to put uncomfortable truths before an audience that did not the expletive wish to listen to it. He will be vindicated, but not in this wicked world.
As a number of the comments bear out Peter sounds very depressed or thinks no one is listening. He is wrong many, many, people are listening. He has an intellect, just like his brother (God rest his soul - although he wouldn't thank me) that few of us possess and if he throws in the towel there is little hope for the rest of us. Take a holiday and come back refreshed - you are needed!.