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- A Gym Teacher is found to be grooming his students when one of his pupils commits suicide.
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Can you make a series of about uvalde PD not entered a school With a shooter inside full of kids. Lol cowards in blue
Pretty please?🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Good job cops ❤ good job cops I love cops.
@@adamkulper4665 me too
If a kid opens up about being molested, dont touch them. If they want a hug they will show you. But dont immediately touch them, that trust was abused, give space and listen if they want to tell.
Just read theri signs. I (as a child s*xual assault victim) would be comfortable now days if someone would touch me(in a respectful/supportive way) on my shoulder while i am opening up about the case.
Maybe you refer if their wounds are fresh.
Either way just read their signs and if they are disturbed just give them space.
@@cosmicreef5858
Hope you are alright
The interviewer is a cop and he's good at reading people so he probably realised he want some type of comfort.
Ehh im not fazed by shoulder touches. Hugs is a no. But gentle touching and calming words and truthful sincereness is alright.
@@cosmicreef5858 It varies person to person. I’m 36 years old now and I still recoil at anyone touching me. I can tolerate it from close loved ones. But that’s it.
It breaks my heart to see stories like this considering how much this happens in real life and how many victims feel like they can’t speak up about it, especially when the victims are male. There is such an awful stigma when it comes to male victims of SA or domestic abuse. They get judged and ignorant people somehow have the mindset that men cannot be victims because “they can just fight them off.” It doesn’t matter if the abuser is a male or a woman, MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO.
That is completely true. Men, women, and children, We all can be victims.
And men are survivors too
@@introvert211 Exactly!!
Honestly I experienced the same thing
But not with stranger ,it was my uncle
I was about ten years old. I told my mom and she said don't tell anyone so l kept my mouth shut
I was a victim of grooming by a female teacher, my case was never investigated. And still hasn't been despite over 50 students after me coming forward with allegations against the teacher.
I was molested by a neighbor. My parents' response was as bad, or worse than the thing itself. They decided it would be better to hush it up and pretend it never happened for my sake, because they believed the scandal would harm me, and probably if I'm being honest, themselves. So, they never reported it or did anything, really, except tell the guy to stay away, and they coached me to never talk about it. But in the process, they managed to fill me with so much guilt and shame, as if it was my fault. For years I felt dirty and wrong inside. They didn't understand as I grew older, why I was so rebellious and acted out a lot. Hell, I didn't understand it myself until years later, when I was finally able to process what had happened. I realize to this day, I still harbor a lot of resentment and bitterness towards my parents for how they handled the situation. I was 5 at the time.
Get over yourself.
same honestly I was molested to but my parents told me to stay away from him and my dad continued being friends with him never acknowledging the situation I was around 5 or 6 at the time
but i hope your able to heal from this shitty thing
@@rithikaroyroy6307 I like to think I have. It was 5 decades ago, and I got some good therapy in my 20s. I think being able to talk it out did more for me than anything.
@@ericspencer8093 That's so great I'm so happy for you!!
This situation is absolutely disgusting, but I applaud this show to bringing this situation to light. Bad things don’t go away if you don’t talk about
This actor is cold. It's awesome how he portrays this character.
Do you know how many shows cover this topic? And how many people ignore it because "the acting isn't top tier".
I personally have not watched any shows that have (or at least can’t think of any) nor have I heard the comment. But it is amazing that more people are discussing the issue!
@@basedblackgirl9920 That's the issue with some shows, you can have 4 shows all exactly alike, but the crowd will often flock to one...maybe two and it comes down to the actors. It's sad, because while many shows like this may not cover stories based on actual events, they do cover some pretty sensitive topics in pretty accurate depictions. But people don't want to watch shows for how accurate they are (at least most don't anyway), they watch shows for the entertainment, so better actors, better scripts, means more attention.
I guess I'll be depressed and isolated forever. Thanks
As a victim of grooming, I hope one day we don't have this kind of shit happening. Also, all the guilty ones seem to have a lawyer on retainer
In all fairness, all teachers probably should have lawyers on retainer. Anyone can say anything
I'm sorry 😞
Honestly anyone and everyone should have a lawyer at the ready just in case of anything.
im sorry man
I'm sorry about hearing about this. I just wish that no one would have to deal with what you must have suffered. Filth like this man don't deserve to breathe the same air as good people do.
Unbelievable. This grown man molests two boys (that we know of) and pays an older boy to “keep Colin quiet” and he thinks he isn’t responsible when his meaning is misconstrued!? You secretly paid someone you had influence over to take care of a problem for you. They’re actions are tied to you, and you deserve to go to prison for a long time for it.
Not how it works legally
These sickos are a protected class now according to the lgbtqpa squad and the biden regime.. These sick fucks are openly given access to our children and the current administration encourages such grooming by our public education system.. Let that sink in
@@Crunttown not too sure about that one chief. That's literally bribery . Which is very much a crime. On top of the actual crime he committed, he'd be looking at a hell of a lot of jail time. The kid he paid off would probably get a reduced sentence if he cooperates with the police, but that's assuming he didn't have any prior acts on his criminal record.
Source: I have an Associates degree and a bachelor's degree in criminal justice, and I interned at a District Attorney's office in my college town.
Someone like me wouldn't keep quiet and just expose everything. I have a revenge mentality when someone wrongs me. I only see ways to bring them down.
THEIR action...
This happened at a high school in my area. The gym teacher groomed and molested a boy on his basketball team, even befriending his parents (I know them personally). It went to trial. The coach was friends with the history teacher at the school and that teacher brought the entire basketball team to the trial to support the COACH and there was no disciplinary action taken by the school. I believe he got 8 years jail time, and the week he was released he showed up a the mother's work and stared at her. Fast forward 5 years another incident where a very young basketball coach at the same school is arrested for molesting a boy on the team. This young coach was on the team when the first molester was coaching him, so I had to wonder if it happened to him, too, and now he is molesting. The history teacher who supported the molester in court is still teaching there and the victim and his siblings were still attending the school. He used to go with the first molester coach on a trip with the team to Florida as a chaperone. Not for a basketball game, but fun in the sun type boy gathering at a Florida resort. I have no idea why more wasn't made of any of this.
Thats so awful rly hope the victims are okay, glad ur safe
Who are they? And where do you live?
@@DonoZeek You can't just ask someone where they live, not in this society
I’m shocked that History teacher wasn’t investigated, not for supporting the coach (Although that is suspicious but not illegal or an indication of anything.) I am more thinking because of his repeated chaperoning. As someone close to the suspect you would at the very least question him, especially because of what could have happened at said trips.
@@BreezyStreamy I can and I should.
These aren’t men. These are BOYS. Absolutely heartbreaking. No should suffer like this.
Exactly right. And the fact that these suspects get off sooooo easily is a joke. Justice system both in Canada and USA needs to change!!!!
@alexchan6467 "Agreed. But everybody is turning into a Snowflake now."
@@deannamarin318 how is everyone 'turning into a snowflake"?
Every victim is valid, male, female, whatever you identify as. If you are violated you shouldnt be scared to tell someone because of your gender. Men have feelings, everyone has feelings. Whoever sees this, take care you are loved❤️
Until I was like 17/18 I didn’t even know your abuser could be the same gender. I knew any gender could be a victim though. That was 2 or three years ago for me. Imagine. So I didn’t even know most of my abusers were actually abusers just cos we’re both females.
@@MB-nb7yq you good?
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 do you?
@@BeautifulGreen252 no. Not really. But I just keep going.
@@BeautifulGreen252
I mean,if they want to feel better if someone listens to them, i am an open book.. sure i can be oversensitive and maybe not a bit of help but still,i wanna try be a change
"you can write anything on a car" - Dude's got a point, just because you write something on a car doesn't necessarily make it true. Most CVPIs have "To Protect and to Serve" written on them
You can write anything on a car, which means there are so many possibilities the writer can pick. So why would they choose pedophile unless there's something going on OR they know that kind of accusation is going to hurt that particular person more than something like murderer.
@Cold Hearted Basterd oh I actually didn’t know that lol
@@Hannah4765 Honestly being labeled a Pedophile is the worst thing imaginable in my opinion. I can definitely see some edgy trolls in school doing that to a teacher to get them in big trouble.
@@timjor7731 I can see that as well. They think a teacher looks creepy and they'll do it. But in this case it's true. And it should be taken seriously even if it is just edgy kids.
@@Hannah4765 People are falsely accused might not be common but it happens
This is sick, it happens in the real world to which is awful. I hope everyone who experienced this recovers physically and mentally.
The worst part is sure you can recover physically but mentally...never be the same.
It happens wayyy too many times, teacher, priest, coaches, family members , babysitters, are usually the main suspect like when does it end??
@@serenashinon1264 many people commit suicide, it’s the only way to forget.
some of us take it to the grave. thank you.
@@serenashinon1264 some of us can’t recover physically, some of us develop eating disorders, or develop asexuality.
In all honesty child molesters deserve 30 years in Jail without the possibility of parole.
You mean a life sentence right?
Incorrect. They deserve worse. I was thinking physical and psychological torture until they die.
@@deathlaham Pretty much.
@@agentscuzz7637 No that would likely increase the chances of future pedos murdering there victims to silence them and lesson there chances of getting caught. Murder is the only crime that should get you the death penalty.
No they deserve death penalty
its ridiculously unrealistic how fast they arrest the man. i was sexually abused as a child and it took hours upon hours of meetings with detectives over the course of about 10 months before the police even spoke to my abuser, much less arrested him. storylines such as these give victims false hop about how quickly these crimes are "wrapped up". it often takes years. nobody gets arrested just like that.
@Jane Doe: It is a TV show, after all. Elements of this show are not exactly "veristic"--similar to most other TV shows.
It takes a lot of time and effort and resources to build a case and gather evidence; otherwise the perp just walks away.
@@ColonelMarcellus i totally agree, the investigation should go on for as long as it needs to to ensure the best outcome possible. after reporting i didnt mind the 'waiting period' as i knew it was all part of the system doing its job. however i think a lot of victims get false hope about how things will go when they see stuff go so quickly on tv
Same. Made my complaint to police 18 months ago. Took six months to arrest him. Waiting until January for first committal hearing in court. Then will be another year before trial.
@@Robodebt1010 Typical... It's a long drawn out process, nothing like these shows make it seem
My family have felt the heartache caused by sexual predators, the family member was 10 years old. She wasn't the only one, he had a harem in his classroom. He got 2 years and she self harmed when she found out he was out of Jail!
It took more than a decade to undo the trauma, she's finally free of the drugs and pursuing her career thank you Lord. I wonder how his other victims are doing?
The fact that you used the word harem in this situation is gross
@@violetrose674 He just used it to describe the situation better, calm down edgy boy.
@A F-35 with internet “a group of women ‘associated’ with one man”
But i guess in this case it’s one man associated with a group of kids
Oh God
@@violetrose674 literally what harem means, grow up
Never under any circumstances talk to the police without a lawyer.
Very true
How can you talk to a minor without parents/lawyer present?
Note to self bring lawyer with me whenever I go through tsa
@@davidd6759 in some states, you don't need the parents their
@@davidd6759 In today's society you need a lawyer lol , since everyone is quick to accuse
Try not to touch people who have been assaulted. It may go very bad.
What do you mean?
@@whispers._. if a victim was physically abused something as small as touching their shoulder could trigger those memories , it could make them uncomfortable or trigger panic attacks
@@howisgamora_ damn i didnt thought about it. Do you think that it can happen with every person which the victim is meeting? I mean if no one know about, how can they avoid those things before it will go wrong the first time ?
I'm sure that the victim doesn't want to tell everyone
@@whispers._. no one should be touching strangers without consent anyway
@@howisgamora_ Is that true?
Whether it's a man, woman, neither, a child, anyone can be a victim. To those who have been through this kind of abuse, or any form of abuse in general, speak up to others and don't ever let these predators take away your power! Stay strong and know that someone will be there to support you. If you don't have anyone to talk to, you can talk to me if you wish to. I won't force anyone , I'm just here as an open door to those who can't go to someone.
I haven't gone through this kind of experience, so please correct me if I were to say something that might be a trigger word to anyone. Although in a different circumstance, I know what it's like to feel afraid to speak up.
I am sincerely sorry this kind of abuse happens to many of human beings. Know that you have power to help others, you never know if you'll end up saving another person's life without even realizing it ❤️ While these sick predators try to hide the truth like the cowards they are, YOU are the ones who can make a difference by speaking up!
Blud Said Neither
Neither? The only other option is hermaphrodite
What if it’s a family member? How would you go about that?
And because of incidents like this, legitimate people who work with children must operate in a more distant, transparent manner to avoid the appearance of wrongdoing. Calling over a 3rd party is a common course of action.
Yea, because of them an innocent hug between a crying child and an adult at school could be construed as something worse.
@@trinitylivingston1286 more like a male doing his job around children
Not incidents like this, predators like this
Everyone, just so you all know, you should NEVER touch a victim of this kind of crime without permission. It could trigger a trauma response which could make things worse.
5:50 it took a lot of courage for him to say all that.
Men and women who do that to kids and teens, they really should never see the light of day ever again once they’re arrested
@@horserider101ful To bad my Abuser is getting support while my family and I suffer along with my Mum who blames herself for what a fat cow did to me. I keep saying its not her fault.....she still blames herself.
@@horserider101ful I know right. Bail nor parole shouldn't be allowed but I think relooking into the case a few times is ok because some people are falsely incriminated but besides that, they should spend their whole life in jail
@@horserider101ful I agree. Abusers like this in real life are all too often given an extremely light prison sentence (or no prison time at all). Predators like this are vile and pathetic excuses of a human being.
No it didn’t. This isn’t real lol
The fact that boys can’t turn to their parents bcs they fear the response would be “you should’ve acted like a man” appalls me How can you react so poorly to your child when they’ve been violated and make excuses
That’s disgusting. The poor boy didn’t wanna get the coach in trouble because he still had care for him even though what the couch did. How unfair. He was scared and just tried to move on and forgive and forget like it was a normal. It’s sad that we live in a world like this today that adults and especially kids must suffer because of this. I hope for the best for them to be strong and be able to move on because of this.
It's going to get worse. This is their plan. Normalize acts with children. That's what the government is pushing for.
This was one of my favorite episodes. It was written really well and acted even better.
Same
Mine too.
Same I feel like the emotions was real
@@bakugoukatsukitheonlyrealo383 facts
Which episode and season is it? I want to watch the whole episode
Yeah it’s sick how these people are. We had one living with us and didn’t know it until he started acting weird and bringing young people around. Then when he made a weird comment we pulled his name and stuff up and found out all about him. Found out that he spent time in prison for a very disgusting act against a very young child. I had to leave the house to not go off. Was all bad. Gone now tho.
Gone to go continue being a sicko and ruin other children’s futures.
Hope your doing good now !
KEEP BLAMING BLACK PEOPLE FOR AMERICAS PROBLEMS...
@@debypitou5467 lol stop nothing happen to him
@@debypitou5467 oh yeah we are good now! Glad to have that creep out of our house.
This was such a great episode. It was a little unrealistic with how fast the guy got arrested (we all wish they could be locked up that fast) but the acting by the boy and the members of PD was phenomenal. it’s so awful how stuff like this happens so often yet goes unheard.
What's the episode called
@@jami_ch2935season 3 e 7 A Dead Kid, a Notebook and a Lot of Maybes
I love the male representation. Men and boys are often told they liked it or wanted it just because of their gender. People really need to realize it happens to them as well and everyone can be at risk.
Yeah :(
Because it's true
True words
It doesn’t always be the women in this case
@@oshysmoviezone5980 buzz light uear.. SUCKERS..
Seeing that poor kid crying broke me.
Its a film
He's a good actor.
@@sudhirchandra9790 but it happens in real life
That moment you realise that the confession would be thrown out cause before he confessed he asked for a lawyer. 😢😢
Not quite true. As it is said "anything you say can and will be used against you." Just asking for a lawyer isn't enough you also have to stay quite until one shows up. Will it make procedure slightly more complicated probably but will not change the out come.
Not really; cops LOOOOVE getting confessions. Lotta times, even if you didn't do it; too many don't even care. They'll play head games, psych you out, lie to your face, play good-cop-bad-cop, and offer you a bottle of water just so they can collect DNA and fingerprints off you, but they adore confessions. Doesn't matter if you lawyered up; the prosecutor will still trot out your own words and use them against you. They'll twist those words, put words in your mouth, and confuse you, try to paint you to look even worse than the demonic lovechild of Ted Bundy, Robert Blake and Dr. Mengele...all because you confessed.
With a good lawyer, anything he says after he asks for a lawyer and before one gets there would most likely get tossed out of court. The second he says, “I want a lawyer” the police are to stop the interrogation. Cut, print, end of story.
@@wmeuse2375 you’d be right except for when he asked for his lawyer. Everything he said before that would be used against him in court.
@Bla Bla the confession would be thrown out. He asked for his lawyer. Everything after that the cops can’t use unless he specifically waved his rights.
Everything he said before asking for a lawyer will still be used against him tho.
sex offenders deserve no mercy
He aint a sex offender not yet anyways
Whatever that's supposed to mean.
It's a sentiment that makes you feel good, but it's not a solution.
Mercy is irrelevant. Sex offenders, like all criminals and suspects still have rights.
@@Matthew-yc6nx It isn't about their "rights", It's about what they deserve.
@@Matthew-yc6nx Their "rights" are irrelevent.
No bc I’d pop all the tires, break the windows, have 10 dogs take a dump on it for extra effect 😭😭😭😭
Only 10 dogs?! That's basically letting him off the hook! Why not 100?
And then your accusations turn out to false , and your charged with a crime
Don't pop all 4 tires, only do 3. Insurance covers it if it's all 4, but if it's only 3 he'll have to pay out of pocket
@@DosagePosage huge brain move
This episode always broke my heart 💔. Jay staying with the child saying that his father would had been proud of him. 😢
Pedophiles should get life
No more freedom
And if inmates find out what the charges are then the abuser is done for so it plays out.
No they should get the death sentence
@@noahsmith4877 what about false accusations?
💯💯💯
8:00 No amount of Lawyer's defense is gonna save him from landing in Prison after what he done.
Should have stuck with the lawyer excuse
I always feel bad for lawyers who have to defend people like this, especially if they know the person is guilty. They aren't proud of it but it's their job to represent someone even if it's the wrong side.
You think pedophiles don’t get off on charges?
Sadly you are wrong. There are plenty of pedo's who walk the streets now thanks to having very good lawyers that get them off due to some stupid technicality, some are rather brazen in their actions and talk about it openly in social media and sometimes in person. We just had one here in Vegas, guy got off thanks to his lawyer, bragged about it for three years before someone took a knife to him.
@@Suisfonia It's better that the guilty go free than for the innocent to go to jail
I know the cop is trying to help but they should have had a women cop in there. A grown man hurt him. I know not all men but this is raw for this kid. I think he would have felt safer with a woman. Like how they have women cops with female rape victims.
Update:I have noticed this is getting comments about it needing to be the opposite gender to the abuser, I fully agree and I dont think my comment says I disagree with this I was addressing in this situation its a male victim of a male abuser and though the cop is meaning well especially putting his hand on him like that can make the situation worse. Trigger ptsd etc since he was abused by a man. I know women and girls coming forward is more common (though many still dont come forward) so they seem to know put female sexual abuse or even just normal abuse victims with female cops if their abuser (in most cases is) a man. This boy was abused by a man they sent in a man cop knowing there is a good chance the gym teacher abused him which doesnt make sense though he meant well it seems like they didnt take into account it could be triggering especially touching his shoulders like that. Normally that kinda touch is consoling but not to a victim of sexual abuse if that makes sense.
I didnt clarify because I was kinda commenting on this specific situation. I brought up female victims of male abusers because I was referencing how they often know to give them a female cop and they didnt do that here.
Ok but the victim may have had been assaulted by a woman as well which kinda makes it tricky. Not everyone by default will feel more comfortable if it’s a woman especially when the victim is a male admitting assault
@@jasonlang9074 it depends on which gender assaulted them
@@jasonlang9074 for sure men are better to deal with those cases I meant this being a case with a male abuser it may be triggering for the male cop to have his hand on him like that. I know hes trying to help.
@@Waffles705 yes but unfortunately when women assault people a lot less of the time they dont think to send male cops in to talk instead. More commonly men sexually abuse more than women (though it does happen and in more ways than one just like when men abuse) regardless of gender of victim. I just meant in this particular situation they suspected a male abuser so it would make more sense to send in a female cop. Im with you guys on that but I was just pointing out that it would be hard if assaulted by a man for a man to be putting their hands on you like that. Though he is trying to help it can cause ptsd reactions. In this case they already knew the coach was suspected to be hurting and the boy had already been talking about how the man had gotten to him. Before they sent the cop in however they knew it was a big possibility that the teacher had assaulted him too.
I honestly wish more cops/social workers/ etc thought about these things. Yes the person could ask but sometimes its hard to ask and him being as young as he was still at an age where hes hit puberty but still young and being the killer I think that wasnt taken into consideration. The cop was being very sympathetic though doing his best of course I just think from the boys perspective that could be quite intimidating and triggering to put his hands on him like that.
@@SunnieDIY you have a point but I believe on which ever kind of gender they were assaulted by it’s best to send the opposite that way they won’t have a serious reaction to it and maybe lower down their guard
I grew up with one of the "kids" that's was groomed. Gotta say you turned into a great actor E.
Why put kids in quotes?
@@rachelcookie321 because at the time it was filmed he was 20
@@celticbandit548 wait what? These kids were actually raped?
@@ocsjc13 what? No?
@celticbandit548 Actors playing teenagers are often slightly older than the character in real life. If the character is 14 or 15, the actor's age could range from 16 to 18. If they're playing a character who's 16 or older, they could even be in their early 20s.
A lot of it is about actual teens being too young to perform something that would be inappropriate for a minor. The solution is a slightly older person who looks young for their age.
Man! That kid is a good actor he had me in tears. I wanted to jump through the tv and give him a hug
Apparently you don’t touch people like they did on here, they don’t like it after what’s happened, doesn’t matter who it is
I have 3 grown sons. When they was young and started going on band trips and staying at a friends home, I sat them down and told them of all the dangers. I told them if anyone try’s anything you better tell me. Do not be embarrassed because it’s never your fault. I told them if they were threatened in any way that it was just a threat to make them not tell. Don’t believe it. My boys came to me with personal subjects instead of their Dad. Why, don’t know. I guess because I was with them everyday while their Dad worked. We talked all the time !! I am so lucky they have grown up to be good men. -All parents need to sit and talk to their kids. Start at a young age and explain all this to them. They will trust you and come to you with problems. Don’t ignore them. 💙
You sound like a great Mom.
This is a sickening act. It’s a shame a large segment of our society has chosen to politicize that charged term and use it against those they disagree with. What they don’t realize is that by doing that, they may be diluting its meaning.
This pumishment is extremre but well diserved for child molesters.
Sadly, every concept of absolute evil is weaponized for political gain.
What is more sickening is that you are defending the perpetrators of well documented incidents of what should be classified as sex crimes against children.
Many Republicans throw that term around very easily against any Democrat. To the point where it is very believable it could end up spray painted on an innocent person's vehicle. You're right about the meaning being diluted and it only emboldens those who use it to accuse people they have disagreements with even more. Especially under the cloak of anonymity.
@@davidgrover5996 I bet you're also the type to say "one bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch" when someone says all cops are bastards.
I know it's a TV show, but the sentiment is no less true to real-life cases: it's one thing to hear adults talk about kids getting molested, but it's even sadder and more infuriating to hear it from the kid themself.
That kid’s a good actor!
I'm sure the producer of the show coached him well.
@@hotstinkytaco Why would you even say that?
what’s his name?
@@hotstinkytaco *oh that's terrible*
@@hotstinkytaco what..
I was recently groomed and sa by my gym coach unfortunately when I tried to seek help the school brushed me off and told me to shut up because it will ruin his reputation and his marriage if I report him
Im so sorry. You should make a public Instagram post about it. You should speak your story regardless
Honey, go to another adult. They cannot do this to you. Make a public post, make noise. No one tolerates this in the real world, and shame on the school for trying to sweep it under the rug when they are mandated reporters.
Eh just report him directly to the police. I cant imagen how horrible it must be but if you are strong enough you might save others. Can you Provider evidence. Als the best for you.
fuck his reputation and marriage. speak up!!! pls report him asap.
Go to your parents and the police
As a TEACHER
...NO YOU DON'T.. YOU DRAW BOUNDARIES!
Good.
As a survivor, it’s so important to see those in authority (the police) believing the survivor. More often than not we don’t think we will be believed so we say nothing - add to that our perpetrators threatened us into silence.
We live with what was done to us all our lives. Every day.
Yeah they need to listen but NOT believe them until evidence has been provided otherwise false aligations and jailings take place
@@UXWJ Yes. Very true. Currently a longtime friend is incarcerated for this very reason. I’ve known him 30-plus years and never had reason to doubt his innocence. All but one of the charges against him were dropped since no evidence was found that satisfied the court. One charge against him is what is keeping him there for years to come.
Yes, you can never truly know someone since people will do something out of the blue that catches us all off guard.
They should listen and help but not out right believe, false accusations are common af
@@UXWJBut what if you don't have any proof? That doesn't change the fact that it happened.
@@BuckedToothCat if you accuse someone of something you have to prove it happened or the person accused shouldnt be treated differently
That can happen to anybody just because it happens to girls more just because of their gender doesn't mean it can't happen to boys too this is just so sad and heartbreaking to see that young boy cry and upset
You’re a sick person young boys get raped and they comparing how it happens to another gender more ? Imagine using a rape case to argue gender wars you’re ill fr
Boys just hide their pain better
It happens to boys more, but they don't get reported often in the feminist dominated West.
@Warda Wada No, it's not. That's misandry propaganda from feminists.
@Warda Wada no. It happens more to boys but it doesn't get reported.
One of my former high school teachers reached out to me via social media and eventually exchanging numbers. It seemed pretty casual at first. Eventually he began telling me… secrets about my classmates and staff. Looking back yes I realized that should have been a red flag. Anyway he eventually began complimenting me on my looks. I hate to admit it but I did find this teacher attractive (he was a male and my sexuality is…. Complicated) and was naive enough to think that maybe he was just friendly and kind. Eventually we began flirting with each other. Eventually the fitting turned to….. dirty talk (talking and texting was all that happened at least from my end). He was engaged to a woman (he claimed he was straight but experimented before) and I began feeling guilty to eventually I told him “maybe we shouldn’t talk to each other like this anymore”. He would then hookup with some guy and tell me about it in details to make me jealous. He would do that everytime I tried pulling away from him. Then when he realized he wasn’t getting his way with me he would try to gaslight me and tried turning it all on me and made me out to be the bad guy. Eventually it became more toxic between me and him and I had to cut all ties with him. To make matters worst he’s been shamelessly having his affairs unprotected. He even wanted to get his way with me unprotected and got mad when I said “only if you show me your test results or if one or both of us is on prep. Later on I found out he did the exact same thing (or worst like actually hooking up) to multiple former classmates of mine (male and female). I would maybe excuse my former teacher if this was one former student he barley knew (like me for example) but trying to hookup with basically 90% of former students that he taught as a teacher some he watched grew up (my school was a special Ed school that had students from elementary to high school); you can’t help but question…. Was he looking at us in ways he shouldn’t have when we were underage. Also to many former students are making the same claim and that screams predatory. People can say “oh you all are adults now” or “it’s not illegal” but just because something is not illegal doesn’t mean it’s okay. Also you don’t have to be a minor to be groomed by someone. I actually wrote a whole letter to his fiancé (my former teacher claims she knows nothing and would never accept it if she found out) and screenshot text messages confirming his infidelity and creepy behavior but haven’t decided to send it……. Not yet at least. One former student who was a former friend of mine backstabbed me and threaten to tell him all I know (to hurt me and at this point it’s not a secret anymore) and my account was hacked where my letter and evidence got deleted… I always copy my receipts though 😁😁😁. It hasn’t even been a year since all this happened 😡😡😡😢😢😢
Send it! Don't let that crap slide man. It's not cool and he's going do it to the next person. Send it! Get help, please speak up!
Please send it. His fiancé deserves to know
@@sunnystar7892 I want to know all the facts first (like if I have an idea that she really is clueless or knows but just In denial) before I do anything. Plus WAY TOO MANY people know at this point so it’s not a secret anymore….. eventually he’s bound to get caught and slip up. Again Im not saying yes or no to sending it I just want to know all the facts first.
Send it … you have to break the chain of abuse … u don’t know how many others there are …
please do send it!!
Sad this happens in real life. It’s sickening how some people would do these things to fellow humans
And how blind idiots think sick freaks deserve leniency when they showed non to their victims. Bah humbug!
They aren’t human
Prayers for the actors who portray these difficult stories. But they are so much more then that, this happen everyday , every 60 seconds in this world.
The way the cop was hovering over the kid and touching him made me wonder if there was a plot twist coming up
You kidding me with that?
@@joewhitehead3 why? It was a shocking enough story, is he a regular character in it normally? I don’t watch this show, it got recommended
@@TayWoode Yeah, I figured you didn’t watch it
@@joewhitehead3 yeah it got recommended, it would probably be a good plot twist as a stand alone movie, but obviously not as a series, it was a bit bizarre the way he was touching him and hovering over him after what happened though
I gotta say the interrogation scene here is shockingly accurate to real life, the interrogator so many common interrogation techniques to try and get the guy to talk, the guy was almost smart saying nothing but eventually caved and confessed it was interesting to see
I wouldn't even want to know what goes on in anyone's head to commit such a stomach churning crime against children or vulnerable people any age. I've had several friends in and out of the military who confided in me about there experiences. Nicest people you ever want to meet, to hear there heartbreaking real life events and to see how far they've gone, overcoming the pain and suffering, there strength and character, its incredible and I have the utmost respect. One of my friends tried to end his life but by gods grace I was able to get to him in time to calm him and get him the help he needed. That's why I could never have worked at a state prison facility, I didn't want to know how much restraint it would take me to not...... but I'd be perfectly fine to be occupied as inmates who have children got a good workout.
These clips get u interested in it then u go and watch the show and it's like a 2 min story in an hour
Gotta stretch that runtime
Yeah that’s the only part I don’t like. I figured the whole runtime would be about this one case but instead they spend so much more time on the other crimes.
@@Jpew2007 omg absolutely the best parts are 5 mins storytime then the rest is drawn out
Its the same for Chicago Med, it follows a formula of 3 plotlines that the various characters are part of
Law and Order SVU
This show hires and trains very talented kid actors. Better than what we saw in the 70's on. Chicago MD does too.
That "kid" wasn't a kid. Many "kid" actors are in their 20s.
There are some really manipulative evil people out there. And if you are so young, they can fool you into doing things...because your brain is not even developed enough to be an adult yet. So don't be so hard on yourself.
Breaks my heart to know situations like these happen irl
Every day.
As a training police officer, quite a few things are illegal here. I'm from London so perhaps British Law differs from American Law here... but regardless, when a 'victim' commits a crime such as criminal damage, it is illegal for a police officer to link a testimony of another person's guilt to the crime the victim just commit and say that they won't be prosecuted for criminal damage if they talk about the pedophile otherwise, it encourages biased testimonies for the criminal damage offendee to talk about the pedophile regardless of if its true or false. They may encourage the Criminal damage offendee to talk but they mustn't link them talking to a guaranteed reduce sentence because it isn't their place to say those things.
Secondly, police officers are not allowed to threaten a person that if that person doesn't talk to them now, that it will reflect negatively on their court trial - the safest and most appropriate thing to do is always to talk to one's lawyer and that should never and will never be seen as an admission of guilt, it is just a person's right on arrest. The only time when a person's refusal to speak is damaging to them is in court.
British law is the same in this context.
American law is EXTREMELY different, we will even give already incarcerated criminals deals for talking about their cellmates, which has lead to many a false arrest but still isn't blanket illegal, I believe, and you can 100% trade not prosecuting for info on different crimes and they regularly use that sort of thing to get their Confedential Informants, even, who are basically double agents and notoriously unreliable
And cops not only will tell you not talking looks bad on you, they are legally allowed to lie to you about the evidence and even lie about letting you go if you tell them XYZ.
Even though every lawyer in America will tell you not to talk without a lawyer, over 80% of people interrogates waive that right anyway because cops are only required to tell you that you have the right to but are in no way required to acknowledge that it'd be better for you and actively dissuade and manipulate you out of it.
Highly suggest John Oliver's recent piece on Interrogation to see just how unreliable even confessions are in America because of how manipulative our police are permitted to be and to watch something on our police CI's, our system is trash.
I’m pretty sure one thing here is that any evidence this guy reveals to them if they continue questioning after he has invoked his right to a lawyer can be inadmissible in court. So the cop telling him the other guy’s story will be “set in stone” as pressure for him to reveal more information after the accused asks to speak to his lawyer is unhelpful in actually getting a useable confession.
Also, the cop walking in and saying “we know, ok, we’re well past that” could be him completely making up evidence they don’t have and means nothing. Interrogations in America are very manipulative.
It’s almost like it’s….not real!
Bullshit aside this happened at one of the schools I went it was the most scariest feeling in the world having the man as a teacher he left when he found out the one of the kids went to the principal and there parents came to the police
"We got you an acting role!"
"Great, who am I going to be playing?"
"A gym teacher!"
"Oh that's cool. I like spo--"
"A pedophilic gym teacher who grooms students!"
"..."
That teacher should be put in the worst prison in America then let the other prisoners have their fun
Revenge won't make the pain go away.
Child predators are at the bottom of the pecking order in prison. Letting them into general populace will usually result in them getting assaulted or killed. Even criminals know you don’t touch kids.
@@robertkenny1201 Pedophiles are subhuman filth that need to be put in camps.
@@robertkenny1201 So? locking them up humanely won't make the point go away either, so at least get revenge on them. Very stupid comment.
@@controlman7490 I didn't say he shouldn't go to Jail for what he did, I'm just saying wanting him to get brutally murdered by inmates doesn't make you a better person.
The moment he said I want to talk to my lawyer the interview was over so the cop coming back to try to get him to break wouldn’t hold up in court it would be confession under duress
That aside; what a dreamy neighbourhood
Something similar happened in my school back in 2008 and this school is in Chicago! Our gym teacher was having a relationship with a 16 yr old and some of us who had class with her had to be questioned. It felt so weird not knowing what was going on and then finding out what was going on while everything seemed like a typical school day. We never saw that girl again and our teacher was fired, made a plea deal and now a registered sex offender. He was a new father and his wife as since divorced him because she didn't want her child around him unsupervised and not cheat her out of a childhood because of something her sick father did.
Emmanuel Macron had an affair with his wife when he was 16 and she was his 40 year old married teacher with three children, one of his age
In your case, it seems that she was consenting and in most countries, she is legally able to do so at 16 even if specific laws forbid such relationships between students and teachers
@@varoonnone7159She was a child. I’m 16. We are children
Absolutely disgusting. It’s so sad that this happens in real life😔
This kid's acting was so on point, I felt it in every fiber! This was just stunning!
As horrible as this situation is, the kid actor is phenomenal in this.
A staff member was caught grooming one of the students in my old hs, he got caught bc the kid's mom snooped around her kid's diary (she shouldn't have but that's another story), and the kid would write abt him. Made headlines, but schl pretends nothing ever happened. This is one story that got to light, many remain unreported.
5:39 I felt that... the emotional damage, remembering it all.
My student teacher for P.E. was arrested for sleeping with one of her female students (once she was hired elsewhere as a teacher). I mean we all guessed she was into girls, we didn’t think they’d be underage ones.
Dam a female teacher doing it
The moment he says he wants to talk to his lawyer, anything said is inadmissible because it is under duress and without the presence of his attorney.
This is how you lose cases in real life.
I'm pushing 70, and I can STILL REMEMBER...VIVIDLY...being molested, twice, at age 15. Once by a baptist sunday school assistant in Haysville, Kansas and once by a church camp counselor here in Kansas. I tell ya, that if anyone tries to mess with my little 2yr old Grandson, I'll gladly spend the rest of my years in prison....cause that person will be very dead.
Man who do you have to be to just have lawyers on speed dial?
The 1%. They can afford high-octane representation.
I really bad driver.
There’s lots of things you might need a lawyer for. Any legal stuff you can go to a lawyer for advice. Some people find it easier to just have a lawyer they go to and that becomes “their lawyer”.
Someone with a functioning brain.
@@michaelmorton5698 this isn't true, ik several middle class with their own lawyers
I am thankful, my mother gave all she could to keep me and my brother safe from this kind of sickening cruelty. Even more thankful, I have a teachers that are fighting against this kind of abuse towards children to give them hope and justice they deserve.
My teachers organisation is well known here in Australia and it has been very successful in changing the laws to give victims and survivors everything they deserve to get justice and rebuild thier lives. Including in changing the laws of taking everything away from the abusers and anyone who dares to try to protect the abusers.
This organisation has fought against child abuse for ten years and still fighting strong to make a difference in hope to prevent future victims.
The second that cowboy coo sgt didn’t stop talking when he invoked his right to a lawyer that case is well and truly gone.
Similar thing happened in my school. This teacher made all the kids uncomfortable with his nasty touching and treatment. I almost didn't get away
I want DNA proof in any situation like this. Did you see the Law and Order SVU where a famous music teacher turned down a pre-teen girl as not talented enough, and then she and her friend coached her little brother (around 5 or 6?) to say the teacher had touched him in a bad place, and he didn’t like it when the teacher used the purple egg on him (the girls snuck a purple egg-shaped sex toy into the teacher’s classroom and hid it in a box of toys). The boy was so convincing! Even though he should have known not to lie, he was just trying to please his sister. And of course the sister and her friend didn’t get in any trouble because they were only 12 or 13. But the teacher’s life was completely and utterly destroyed. The DA should have prosecuted those girls, but they had the little boy do all the lying to police. It really was heartbreaking for the teacher.
Yess i saw that episode!
I saw that one. They were after him.
Funny thing I think it would actually be illegal for the cop to pull that stunt, once a suspect says 'I want a lawyer' questioning has to cease immediately. This would have put the confession in jeopardy.
personally I don't think you should get to live if you do this to a child.
Being from Chicago myself, I love this tv show
Worst part now we got people defending this kind of groomer behavior and trying to call themselves maps
nobodies defending them
@@awkwardfreakinperson7936 trust me I’ve seen it
I dont understand why the interrogator would be sitting on the table talking down to the kid. Psychologically, that intimidates or sends the message of being the one in charge. He should be sitting level with the kid.
I cringe every time I see someone talking to the police without a lawyer
This is tv
@@joewhitehead3 No one asked.
You can never make it better. You can only keep it from getting worse.
The world really is a messed up place. Real stuff like this does happen.
If Eliot was in this episode he would of kill the coach
FAX
We all know how he was with perps who committed crimes against children
@@joewhitehead3 Ik
Eliot Stabler?
@@firstofall1078 Law & Order character
I thought this was a documentary when I clicked on it.
Remember that this is a Drama not a police Procedural. When he said ''I want my lawyer'' THAT'S IT. No ''Well, If I leave, no deals'' That's enough to get the interview omitted from evidence.
Edit: it could even be enough for Witness intimidation.
- Would what the kid say be admissible since he's a minor and they didn't have his parents or a caregiver present during questioning? I recall hearing somewhere that its one of the bigger loopholes that used to be exploited in cases like this.
Unless the parents give permission. He's also a victim not a suspect so those rules rarely apply to child victims.
"My dad told me.. I was supposed to be a man." Damn bro...
4:30 "we don't let sanders out of our sight" i love voight that line proves he doesn't stop going after Criminals
It broke my heart that things like this happen every single day and these kids are too scared to say anything so the hide and stay quite. Also why does he have a lawyer ready like🤨
i still dont understand where the kid said his coach did it...all he said was my dad wanted me to be a man....
he said “i didn’t want anyone to know what he did to me”
Don't ignore a child when they tell you something. Always check it out. If untrue, it's better to check, than ignore.
Save a child's life.
1:24 C'mon the joke was right there...
What joke?
@@introvert211 "Took em under your 'wing'." His deep vocal fry makes it sound like 'wang' aka another word for penis.
@@introvert211 I can't see it either.
I don’t see it either
That kids a great actor wow
So very sorry that people hurt children like this.
That quick clip of him grilling the sausage 😮
I love the Sargent’s gravely voice!
Jay was so kind, it was beautiful
Hold up, Jon Seda’s in this? And who’s the cop in the dark blue shirt? Guess I have a new show to tune into! 😦
Yes, Jon Seda was in this show, now he left dough. The cop in the dark blue shirt is Jason Beghe
All previous seasons of Chicago P.D. are free on Peacock Tv if you want to watch them
The sausages on the Bbq look terrified, glad the police got there in time!