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Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 is Wild…
AMD is preparing to release their Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 series soon. According to leaks the 9000 Granite Ridge CPUs which should include the Ryzen 9 9950X, 9900X, 9800X, and 9600X, will be one of the biggest leaps in CPU performance history.
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Can they fix 9950x3d problems with gaming? Without having to disable cores, If so I'd buy, i want more cores, i mostly game but will also video edit and render some stuff, and i have plenty of money for it...
What performance increase you think the AMD 9900x3d over the AMD 5900x will be like.
👍 If you think it's still going to be a normal 15%-20% IPC uplift
I think 15-25% but more cache so up 30% slight higher clocks too
more is like 25%-30%ish range
Yeah I think 20-25%
It probably won't be 40%, I don't believe that
@bartegexe8182 still good jump imo, just need a better 9950x3d fix in the windows software
It'll be a 20%... this guy is just boarding the AMD hype train only to depart disappointed.
ME: *buys $550 CPU*
Next Day: *Ryzen 9 announcements*
You'll be fine my G, It's probably going to be a 15-20% uplift max
If you spent that much you'll be fine because I imagine you won't be playing at 1080p which is where by far the biggest difference will be felt. I got a 7800x3D a few months ago and cos I play at 4K I'm not concerned that I'm gonna miss out greatly with the 9800x3D. Plus I would have to wait years to get the 9800x3D for the price I got the 7800x3D for.
I mean...Everyone has access to Google and the release trends of computer hardware are pretty well documented at this point. If you buy a computer part more than 6-8 months after release there will generally be rumours of the next generation 2-3 months later, and then another 2-3 months after that is the next gen announcement.
You bought what you want when you needed it, so don't worry about it. Something new is always around the corner.
Fk these intels, amds ect...wtf are these doing??? Bought week ago 7800x3d and 4070ti...now they both will release 5000 and 9000 😮, fk politics
@@KOT-ANGRY don't worry... new vers. of x3d will be in 2025 so you are good.
I can’t wait for 9950X3D 😉
"Lets talk about it" (I have gone crazy)
25 percent and I'm going amd for the first time in a decade
About 6 months ago I went AMD for the first time in nearly 2 decades, Zen 4 was the first Generation since AMD 64 that clearly led Intel in gaming at least.
@@Battleneterwhen is the next ingrained GPU having CPU coming out
@Battleneter why did you to amd and how or why is it better for gaming over then intel? or Nvidia?
@@xdooksyt7251three words for nvidia
price to performance
for intel theyre just on average cheaper and much more futureproof because these will be the same socket as the 7000 series, and intels next generation will be on a new socket
@@xdooksyt7251 It's not better than Nvidia, nobody said that. Now regarding gaming, ryzen 7600 is 5-7% faster than 13600K while costing less and consuming less power. ofc, 13600K wins in productivity due to more cores but for gaming it's ryzen. 7700x also wins against 13700K but they're almost equal. 7950X3D is a multicore as well a gaming beast. And let's not forget the elephant in the room, 7800X3D that is the fastest gaming CPU, that beats 1̶3̶9̶0̶0̶K̶ sorry 1̶3̶9̶0̶0̶K̶s̶ oh my bad 1̶4̶9̶0̶0̶K̶ my apologies 1̶4̶9̶0̶0̶K̶s . They are all the same CPU. While consuming a fraction of the power and requirung much cheaper memory sticks and motherboards.
Still rocking the 6700k Intel and the 1070 waiting for next generation, fomo got me holding off.
😂 same spack as you ya we got to hold one this time ill go amd procesor new and most powerful 6700k is good but I can feel it 😢
Fx4300 r9 290x 😂 gonna upgrade to 7500f and rtx 4070ti super in 2025
lmfao bro that's like 2016 specs wtf, upgrade. Literally anything will be faster than that. A iPad is more powerful than the 6700K now
nice! loved the video!
The man has been to acting school. Sounds just like Hollywood Movie Trailer Guy. 🙂
I been calling him The Sham Wow guy for 2 years now. :D
"In a wooooorld where 7950x3d just wasn't enough...ONE MAAAN....had it all until 9000 series came aloooong..."
Gonna wait for Zen 5 x3d
only good if you gaming get non 3d for nongaming
@@frallorfrallor3410 gaming only for me
@@frallorfrallor3410 most go for games 😅 but I find it funny how some people that produce are like oh this is what all get let me get it foe my vids 😂
Thank for the update. 👍
So for the 9950X there is a 38% gain in speed at the cost of 41% increase in power consumption? I guess that would come at an 40% increase in price as well? Think I'll wait to build my next video editing AMD computer in the fall. Any chance of x3d this year? Hey, single core = TDP ? Fishy
but will it perform as well one the x670E or the new chipset/motherboard?? lets say its x870E
I'm sitting here with a i7-5820k (From 2014) waiting for Ryzen 9000, don't hype up Ryzen 9000 x3D 😔
5820k was a great chip, I used one for years then bought a 6950x off ebay for 20 bucks that served me well for a couple more years till I went to a 13700k.
I would maybe suggest to wait for arrow lake as well if you don't want stutters and stability issues. I'm amd user btw
6700k 😂 here
Sigh ... and I'm sitting here with my i7 3770K from 2012
@@winnb4968 End of the line with that socket, the 3770k is pretty much the fastest CPU you can get for it 😞
hope both Intel and AMD knock it out of the park with Arrow lake and AM5! The more competition, the better prices for us consumers, can't wait to upgrade from my Ryzen 5 3600 to a ryzen 7 9700x or i5 15600k!
My post-Gamer Meld trauma hit like an isekai truck upon reading the title, but at least it's benchmarks very cool 👍
Great video!
i hope that next gen zen 5 can run infinity fabric at 3600 mhz which would be a hudge uplift since if you currently run fast ddr5 ram 7200 cl 34 its nearly identical to 6000 cl 30 but 7200 is 1:2 and 6000 is 1:1 and fab clk on 6000 is at most 2133 but on 7200 you need to downclock to 1800 to have a big uplift
I heard the recommendaed max ram speed is 6400MHz up from 6000. I have 6200 working in 1:1 mode but thats it. So i'd guess 6600MHz is about the max, higher probably need a divider. Hopefully though they do more divider options so there is less penality.
@@jondonnelly4831 in the past you did 1:1:1 which was very beneficial but now you can have 1:1:0.66 which is in the end very simulair to 1:2:2 the 2:2=1:1 for each other but you need to have fast ram to notice a gain over 6k in some games its -1.5% preformance other games its a 5% boost depending on what the game prefers. which setup would be better
@@jondonnelly4831 the main diffrence is you pay a premium for the faster ram which is not a full gain in every aspect. i did do testing myself different games prefer different ram speeds to cpu ratio
I have a 7800x3d, should the next gen cpu still be on the same motherboard am5?
Yes
Is the die shrinking from 5 nm to 4nm of TSMC? Is it about 20%? If so, can AMD play with the cache memory (better timing)? How much faster is the whole SoC, if the CPU is about 20% faster itself and the cache memory timing is 2 times beter? Can it be 40%? I think, this is only IPC at about 4.0, or 4.5, or maybe 4.8 GHz. And if it is 2x-40% faster at 4.8 GHz, how much faster is it at lower clockspeeds? 😲 Many-many questions. 😲
I'll try to answer.
1. We don't know if it's die shrunk, but IPC gains are not automatic with die shrinks. Die shrinks give you more "space" (technically the same space but you can fit more into it because your 'wires' are smaller) and thinner 'wires' so you need less power to make them function, but also makes your chip smaller and thus puts the heat closer together so you can't just juice more performance out of your CPU. With that more space you can fit more logic and potentially make the chip faster, but because it's not automatic, to say there's a 20% advantage from a die shrink is wrong.
2. AMD's cache bus, or Infinity Fabric, is locked to RAM speed because it runs at the speed of the memory controller. Because Cache is SRAM, we can expect it to get faster but a lot less than double. Because it's locked to RAM speed, it will still require you to put in faster RAM to run it at a higher clock. Because of this, and the fact that it will run the same RAM as last generation, the fastest RAM in they could have used in the benchmark is 7200MT/s and the fastest Ryzen 7000 supports is 6000MT/s, giving you a 20% faster cache at best.
3. It stays the same regardless of clock speed. IPC is Instructions Per Clock, and 4.8Ghz is a clock speed of 4,800,000,000 times per second. Think of IPC like an invisible multiplier. If my CPU has an average IPC of 2, then on average it is doing two instructions every clock. I can do 9.6 billion operations per second with a 4.8Ghz CPU because 4.8 billion clock speed times two instructions per clock is 9.6bn. I say average not because it changes depending on speed. If it's average is 2, then sometimes it will get a long instruction that might take 4 clocks, and sometimes it will be able to complete 4 instructions in a single clock, but when you average the amount of tasks done per clock you end up with 2.
P.S we don't typically give a number for IPC because some instructions are much much more common than others. For example the add command is very very common and a CPU that can add super fast will usually beat a CPU that can do more complex tasks super fast but adds slowly. Because of this IPC expressed as a number would be pretty useless as it would be too affected by uncommon instructions and not affected enough by common ones. Hence benchmarks.
I think that Zen 5 will trade blows with Arrow Lake.
😂here is the intel fan boy
I don't think so some good REAL leaks show that IPC of of zen 5 is 15-20 % but arrow lake is 25-30% so I think what will happen is intel Wil win In raw performance but I think amd may win in gaming with their x3d cache
Idk how long amd can do this because at one point cpus will get enough fast that more cache won't do anything
@@ItsDeeno69 I think you have a zero to much. Intels IPC will probably be the usual 2-3% uplift.
@@TheKims82 what?
@@TheKims82 are u an intel hater coz I believe this will be the IPC bro
1.3nm node
2.Backside power delivery
So ya they will be faster and finally they will also be efficient
Try slowing down the video to the slowest speed. So funny. 🙂
Almost 7 month it 7800X3D + Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT 20GB and im a happy guy play it resolucion 2560x1440p 145 FPS to 180 FPS is better see what hapening it new CPU and GPU for now im happy 😅
would love to see this. just switched to am5 from am4 and i love it. even if there will be just 15% improvement would be insane. switched from a r5 5600x to an r5 7500f and just while doing daily tasks it feels much smoother. so i just started to save money for the x3d chips and i hope they are not around the corner^^ i hope for end of this year or in the first 2 or 3 months in 2025. i also hope, that am5 is similar in total costs to am4 after 2 years. and we can get the r5 7500f for 100-120 bucks and b650 boards for around 80-110 bucks with 4 ram slots and good cooling. the cpu space is one of the last things im happy about to see. would love to see something like this in gpu market. 20% uplift on the entry level cards would be nice in the next gen. time will tell
I love my 7900x 5.6GHz all core overclock, but it bottlenecks my 4090 in 1440p, especially with dlss on, there is no cpu that dosn't out there. A big IPC uplift will unlease the the 4090 and feel like a double upgrade. Can't wait. Its gonna slap.
Small uplift like the 15th Gen Intel. Both AMD and Intel have the same intuitional share holders. So they won't want AMD to destroy Intel in both gaming and work production.
Ya but with all the negative about Intel last gen price are gona be good this time around
I have a relatively new PC build, from last year. I purposely bought a 7700X and hoped to buy a Zen 5 X3D. Looks like my dreams are coming true. Aero Lake Schmero Lake, I dont need no stinking Intel. :D
btw Zen 1 was a 52% increase also Nehalem would also be around that because you went from the Pentiums to Intel core that was big at the time, also one could ague that even though it wasn't as big of an uplift at the time the introduction of AVX acceleration with Sandy Bridge was just as big, but considering we are naming like the biggest jumps in the past 15 years, ehhhh it's pretty good. He says making the biggest understatement of the year.
I still rocking on 3000 series for 4 years+ .. my next upgrade gonna be leap and bound.. Im glad im waiting after 3 generation.
That ladder cache design really has the potential to increase performance on Zen 5 by a significant amount.
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0:53 that cinebench can not be right if its that means +50% one core over 7000s
AVX512
9800X3D and a RTX 5090 is looking like the S-tier for gaming PC's
But here's hoping Intel still gives a good fight.
Should I go for AMD 9950x or the next intel i9 gen? + 5090 Nvidia
Wait till benchmarks come out for what games and apps you actually use. but general speculation seems like AMD will beat intel this generation on paper intel switching to new architecture and MOBO chip so you could get hopefully 3 new cpus to upgrade and AMD you only get 1 more CPU 10000 series. but actual real world reviews come out 2 months after release. plus intel no hyperthreading apparently. both should have AI. Intel should be able to match AMD by the end of it.
Exactly its too soon to decide which cpu to go for although I'm saying it will better to go for amd if you are gaming on it but the x3d chips not production the i9 15900k or whatever they've called it "don't try to correct me in the comments who ever will be its not my problem intel confusing with their naming schemes) just know that usually intel strong benefits are in the production stage while amd is better at the gaming stage as i mentioned before.
@@IraShowy I have been using 3950x previously + 128gb ram. So I'd run fluid simulations on it. But I gave it to my bro and I'll be mving abroad and I am not sure if I will get enough space for a desktop or a laptop would do it. Asus strix g16.
My worries is if this new AMD will be laggy with windows 11 cause when i did istall it on my 3950x it felt it had a latency on explorer. Didnt like it at all and went bak to w10 and i was responsive and way faster.
The thing I don't like about Intel is the weak cores taking up space while giving you few performance cores. While AMD gives you full performance cores and also use less energy.
Now intel next gen, is interesting that it won't be hypertreading. I am curious about it. At the moment I am confused whether I should wait till I move out and figure out or get a Asus strix g16 to get me going. but is half the budged of a full desktiop with a 5090 card. aproximately lol
@@gamingcomputers7485 what I like about Intel tht I did mention in the previos answer is stability. When I had my 3950x, I had to deal with a freaking bunch of issues,, stutters at random times, sudden clock speed down to 400mhz all cores. issues here and there, bugged bios and stuff. took almost a year to get a stable system.
But with intel it doesn't seem that bad, isn;t it? but intel huge need of electricity turns me down and the fact that its processors arent full performance ones. but weak and full power. I want ALL my cores to be performnace so I'd run simulations smoothly. Also temps in my 3950x were 75 degrees for over 80 hours of simulation non stop. That is the thing I liked from AMD once all the bugs were gone lol. Still not buying anythung except that I might need a laptop but im pushing myself not to spend money till prob january next year lol. writing from a 11 years old laptop atm
I'm going from amd to Intel next gen even if it beats it by some % because i would rather have few fps less and smoother experience than dips/stutters in games and windows as well
25% and 40 when X3D will be released in gaming, professional heavy workload. 35% without X3D.
Wishful thinking but it's nice to hype. 😂
Brother, why do you suddenly turn your head every time as if you are connecting to the broadcast while like doing stuff in the toilet?
😂
I hope it's not 40% more expensive though. I mean look at the previous releases on CPUs and GPUs. it's skyrocketing and then goes down slightly and slowly because sales didnt meet their expectations.
Over here the 7800x3d was selling for about 600 euro but then price drop to 300 hehe
I'm excited for Zen 5. If these performance uplifts are TRUE, with their midrange chips. I will probably be picking one up for my Am5 board... Maybe. As I want more Single threaded performance for games like Rimworld.
And a 42% uplift would... well... Make the game so much more playable. especially later game.
I'm excited to see what AMD is cooking.
@GraphicallyChallenged Man, your voice recording on the background is in stereo. Voice and bass are being recorded in Mono. 😅
i am planning and have saved up a bit for a new pc, i expect to be broke afterwards, if ryzen 9000 gets 40 percent more performance, i bet you the price will be close to 40% higher. i got my 12700k for 450 dollar, so i think a ryzen cpu that is 50% faster than my intel cpu are going to cost 675 dollar.
Holy moly I wouldn't spend that much for a 7 class CPU 330 tops I also picked up a 12700k for $302 back in October of last year though I did hear that the 5800 X 3D that I also bought back in December for 320 was originally 450 years ago when it came out
Always w8 a bit 😂
Ram support stilll sucks?
But the question we all want to know - how readily will they catch on fire? The flames from 7800X3D and Nvidia's 12VHPWR connectors are dying down, we need to heat things up again
at these clock speeds im hoping it doesnt run into thermal throttling, Im hoping we see more 3d vache use this gen esp on mobile chips
This plus 4090 vids gonna be coming in hot hahaha, 1K+ fps in shooters gonna be the new norm
uuuuuuuu life changing😮😮 musst buy🤔
I'll be purchasing the new Processor from AMD and upgrading from the 7820X Intel.
It will be a nice upgrade for me, my PC still runs good but not great!
The interesting part is, will AMD fail at delivering the hyped performance or will they fail pricing or perhaps both.
48% in my opinion is BS This happens with leakers all the time .. 100% AMD has a 48% uplift CPU kicking around the office but it wont be a 9000 series that will be 10000 series ..
Price is subjective if we see 15 to 20% uplift which i firmly believe will be the case we will see prices close to 7000series at release prices !!
I doubt that they will fail (they need the massive performance uplift) otherwise they will lose against Arrow Lake and that can't happen because 9000 series is on a newer architecture and they will improve the cache design. Intel has flaws in their p-e cores cpu architecture design cause the e cores don't support hyperthreading meaning AMD is going to have an edge to win here. But like always Intel is so upset they can't improve their CPU like AMD does so they will increase power-draw and overclock as high as possible to a point where it cause instability issues and right after buying latest Intel's CPU it's gonna start burning up and losing performance due to heat. While as AMD will still be high clocked but not as high as Intel and still have plenty room to overclock/PBO unlike Intel that is already maxed overclocked and has no room to overclock that's the difference between AMD vs Intel (AMD always win with performance per watt, that's a fact btw if you don't believe look at the performance scores vs efficiency (power draw) in load Intel is drawing 70% more power then AMD which is a huge shame and no I'm not a fan boy I own an i7 3770K and I will upgrade to 9950X3D.
waiting for 10 ghz cpu either amd or intel.
I'm glad I'm waiting with buying a new system. Once a 7 a 8 years I buy a high-end system (I change almost everything then), each time the price increases substantially. The Asus 4090 as a example cost here; 2300 Euro. That's around 40-45% of the case cost on paper (5200 Euro), but a waste of money due to the upcoming hardware. Although I can see scalpers buying the 5090's, and shops increasing prices again to match them. A 5090 (which I'm going for on paper, for now) could set me back 2500 Euro+ potentially (which will increase system costs). Pure insanity. Hw is unnecessarily expensive in the NED compare to the states. We have a 21% vat, and even then they put a lot on top of that. A example; the new Asus QD Oled 32 inch monitor is 1500 (1600 USD) Euro here. And this price is not included in the system costs. I think people should only be allowed to buy one certain piece of hardware at the time. Sounds weird, but scalpers buy everything nowadays. Graphics cards, consoles, phones etc. I seen shops raising the prices to match them. So I think I will wait. After so long saving, a few more months doesn't matter. Maybe the X3D will be available then, or the AMD graphics card is like 1K less then Nvidia, but as fast as the 5090. I really hope so. because no matter if you saved money for it or not .. prices like I mentioned are not normal. On the other hand; 7 years ago I bough 3 SSD's for 1200 Euro. That's much cheaper these days. We will see. 😉
Now the cost 50 euro I know right back then I got one with 480 g for 150 euro 😂
Its insane indeed. For less then 400 I believe you have a 4TB M2 SSD, which is also much faster. And as you said sometimes you see 50 to 80 Euro SSD's of 500GB to 1 TB. Obviously you could buy a 2 TB gen 5 SSD which is expensive. But not as 3 TB for 1200 I paid for, back then. Luckily so 😉
@@Oliver-sn4be ps. even worse .. one or the first SSD's I bought was a Corsair 60 gig. I think it was around 15 years ago (?), and over 400 Euro, during the Windows 7 era. It had 550 mb/s read speeds. It looked somewhat thicker then the current normal SSD's. Most people also had issues with them, luckily I didn't. I might still have it laying around somewhere. It's a nice indicator how far and fast the SSD's have come and became, even if you look at my current ones. 😉
We've reached the point for home PC users that everything is mostly overkill performance at this point. It's like being thrilled that your commuter car is capable of 250 mph instead of 175 mph. The professional bench-markers will be happy though.
Exactly, 7800x3d is a monster CPU even after 15 months, it's overkill for 350 euros and will still be strong for the next 3-4 years but with the new CPUs even faster...it's an Ultra overkill and people will buy it just because...it's the latest gen 😂😂😂
Me coming from 3600x to 7800x3d i'm more than pleased and don't care about the next gen...
That "overkill" is the reason you don't have to buy a new cpu everytime a new game comes out.
@@MeMyself-gf7fn 100% my plan is ( my current main rig is a 7800x3d and 7900xtx ) 9950x3d and a 5090 and just sit on it for a long time .. i really believe we are pushing far further with tech than software ( disregard the 8gb crap Nvidia is pushing out ) anything 16gb plus is going to be around for a while 24gb plus is so over kill now..
I disagree with that , as a 4k ultra enjoyer. Once the 5090 comes out you will see a greater difference in 4k CPU benchmarks because games are currently gpu bound at 4k , the 4090 is the entry level 4k card you can play new games at ultra with 70-90 fps , the 5090 will be a 140+ 4k gaming card
I game with a 7950x and there is no noticeable penalty for multi chiplet skus
That fine but won't be muvh different from the 7800x3d only when you go to production then yes
@@Oliver-sn4be Yeah. The 7800x3d is a great chip. I just wanted to state that multi chiplet sku's are also great for gaming and there is no penalty for chiplets.
Bro do you sleep? I just found your display channel 😮
Meth usually keeps people up.
zen 5 9950 with the 5090 bought XD
My 7950X3D is already freaking bonkers. I hit go and it's done. Gaming is #1
Intel have no chance
i love my 5950x and 128gb ram will use this until 9950x arives
It's most likely a 15-20% uplift. If we're insanely lucky we might get a 25% uplift. I'd honestly buy it if it was 20%.
15% uplft is crazy nowaday
Gaming performance is not a good representation of actual performance.
The interaction between the cpu and GPU via the PCI bus will always limit CPU performance.
The gaming performance will likely be significantly less than the actual improvement in CPU performance.
The 7800x3d is better for gaming (bangs for bucks), but the 7950x3d is vastly better for video editing performance. So, yes, use-case matters. Video editing is still also CPU intensive.
LOL 2:05 "ballpoint." [Uhh, "ballpark?" ("Ballpoint" is a **type of pen.** "[In the] ballpark" is 'close but not exact.')]
Auto-correct fail? [Being generous. 😜]
Anyway, nice to see some significant [not just 'fractional/incremental' 'refresh'] generation-over-generation IPC/performance uplift.
9950x will be amazing cpu im buying 4 of them
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oh and with 3D vcache it will be unbeatable
good thing you said "oh and". Otherwise no one would understand what you were saying
Can we stop the hyp. Non of it has been worth it for years it's always ruined by something
There won't be a 9000x3d as zen 5 fixes the reason why it was needed I the first place
There will be 9000 X3D's and maybe the 9000 series won't beat Intel's Arrow Lake and this is why AMD will release X3D after Intel's Arrow Lake. Because Ryzen 9000 is going to be announced in June and a month or two later July/August will be the release of Ryzen 9000 series. While Intel will release Arrow Lake in Sept/November and AMD's X3D will come in 2025 Q1 but could be delayed to begin of Q2. But 6-8 months after release of regular Ryzen 9000 series so about a year from now the 9000 X3D's will be released and RDNA 4 will be released 5-7 months after that.
I just love it amd is kicking the crap out of intel and all these intel fanboys chat crap in the comments how they are rocking ancient chips how good they are.
Not having a clue how crap there chip is sooo funny to read. Intel is getting to be where amd was in 2016.
I will get next gen x3d im on 5800x3d and 4080 and its just brilliant @4k 144hz
Intel has usually come out after amd so trading blows!
That's why Ryzen 9000 series will release first,
then Intel's Arrow Lake and then X3D will beat it.
Are we going to play cyberpunk @120 4k with path tracing. 😂🎉
You can't do that with 7800x3d?
Ryzen 9800X3d + rtx5090 😁
@@expoza5245 costing only 7000$ :D
Is that your real voice?
Ridiculous
Haha BS! It'll be a 20-25%... take it or leave.
15% IPC at best. 5% or higher uplift in single thread clock and perhaps 10% clock in all core. I say 15-20% single and 20-25% multi performance uplift. I'd bet on it but hoo noes
@@christophermullins7163 I expect the same. Everyone who says 40% or higher are delusional.
Even with DDR5 and a new platform Zen 4 was 30% faster in single core than Zen 3.
Yeah lol, there aint no way its gonna be a 50%, or even 40% ipc uplift (i have heard some people saying its gonna be 70%+ 💀). If reworking an architecture and increasing the process from 7nm to 5nm resulted in just a 15% ipc uplift(and 20-25% performance uplift), then there is no way in hell that no transistor change on the basic zen architecture results in even CLOSE to a 40% IPC uplift. Those levels were only seem from zen 1 over bulldozer, and ONLY because bulldozer sucked badly and Zen 1 was fundamentally new. I predict in reality, the IPC uplift would be around 15-20% at maximum, which single threaded being around 25-30%(maybe 35% or 40% maximum in some scenarios). It's just RedGamingTech spreading these false rumours from untrustworthy sources, while AMD themselves haven't even said anything regarding performance. Mind you that intel is going from 10nm RLR to TSMC 3nm ARL, completely changing the architecture and CPU design by going tile based, and even then will probably deliver around a 15-20% IPC uplift(which is already really impressive), and a 35% improvement in performance atmost.
Brother, why do you suddenly turn your head every time as if you are connecting to the broadcast while taking a sh!t?
AMD comes and get all the hype, some months go by and Intel wipes the floor, it will just happen again and again...
It still is a lot less expensive than comparable Intel cpus
@@ryan89554 it happens amd doesn't care about the lower-end; where are the R3? ya'll shit 'future-proof' yet recommend a dead platform.
@@ryan89554depends where you live, intel cheaper for me lol idk why
are you dumb?
7800X3D is trash and Zen 5 won't be good enough. Waiting for Zen 8.
Waiting for zen 14
Humongous increases in ai stuff that doesnt apply to average gamer
Games devs are going to add ai, it's only a matter of time there is some off the shelf api available similar to physx and then overnight you will see it everywhere just like physx
I watch and I love the hype. Who cares if its prolly only a 15% uplift.. lets act like its 50% uplift until we are proved wrong!! 😜
zen 5 wins
especilly
X3D in gaming 150%
Please please please can you make less frequent cuts in the videos? Hard to pay attention to what you are saying when the video keeps jumping due to the cuts
Fk these intels, amds ect...wtf are these doing??? Bought week ago 7800x3d and 4070ti...now they both will release 5000 and 9000 😮, fk politics
keep dreaming
x86 architecture is dead
I think Arrow Lake is doomed.
nah
Will the best Zen 5 be better than the i9 14900k? NO! so no buy lmao
7800x3d allready beating 14900ks in gaming xD
@@Kage0No0Tenshi ?????
@@lukask.2549 Please continue to truth User Benchmarks.
@@Kage0No0Tenshi 14900KS does beat it in gaming, but by like 1% or something, while costing double, using 2x more power, and running 1.5x hotter. 14900KS is a waste of sand lol.
9900X will beat both 14900K and 7800X3D in gaming.
- You can mark my words
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Conner u know Intel will not surpass the frequency of Raptor at Arrow accept maybe the parallel SIMD calls and AMD gets its performance core advantage with some better SERDES across Feldman Fabric for 2P multiprocessing. mb
Lame regurgitating news from others at least you gave credit but still very lame
i think zen 5 will beat arrow lake in performance, if that is the case i think amd will hold off for awhile with the 3d versions to counter anything intel thinks up after arrow lake.
im rdy take my money!
ArrowLake *MIGHT* get close to the Ryzen 9000 series, but you'll need a dedicated active refrigeration system to prevent them catching fire! :D
apparently arrow lake is implementing meteor lake's base tiled based architecture making it much more power efficient and temps, while delivering similar performance to zen 5 (which is to be expected, considering a fundamental architecture redesign + jumping from 7nm meteor lake to tsmc 3nm + tile based architecture)
but lets just wait for the benchmarks to hit, just to see how much of a monster or a disappointment arrow lake is
@@auritro3903 Well Intel better bring their A-game because they have a LOT of caching up to do! And let's face it; they don't have a good rep for producing power efficient desktop CPUs.
Intel's Arrow Lake will come close but their e cores has flaws it doesn't support hyperthreading while as AMD is working on something similar and their CPU cores will communicate better and have lesser latency with their AI chip. Basically what Intel has with P and E cores but on AMD's side it's build in within their CPU instead of e and p cores AMD is doing this with threads (each core has two threads) and one of them is focused on performance while other is focusing on efficiency (background applications). Since AMD's cache system is better I believe AMD has slightly the edge to win from Intel because Arrow Lake may go crazy with higher clocks and draw more power (like usual). But that's why Ryzen 9000 series releases before Arrow Lake cause once 9000 series is out Intel will release Arrow Lake and once that is out AMD will beat them with their 9000 X3D.
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I am ecstatic that AMD is sticking it up Intel & also ARM in the performance metrics. I would look at an ARM laptop but not Apple's, they are far, far too expensive, don't run Windows & have no touch screens. Now it is AMD for both the cpu grunt & the integrated graphics. Simply perfection & they are still only using Zen 4 in these SKU's and not Zen 5.