Vinyl Record Mass Production Process. Korea's Only LP Records Manufacturing Factory

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  • @Allprocessofworld
    @Allprocessofworld  Před rokem +160

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  • @mohare134
    @mohare134 Před rokem +251

    For those wondering (as I was), they were spraying the lacquer master (which is soft) with silver nitrate, then dipping it into a nickel bath to electroplate the master...essentially taking the soft lacquer and making a metal twin so it can then be use to stamp the vinyl (PVC) cookies in the press.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před rokem +5

      I thought, they would have changed to the DMM process completely, it eliminated this step and by the way, it's possible to extend the recording time to 30 minutes per side without audible impairment.

    • @zuthalsoraniz6764
      @zuthalsoraniz6764 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Both silver nitrate, and a solution that will cause the silver nitrate to react and deposit on the surface as pure silver. For the chemistry nerd, it's basically a spray-on Tollens reaction.
      And doing that first is needed because of course, you can only electroplate objects that conduct electricity

    • @honeysup
      @honeysup Před 11 měsíci +25

      @@robfriedrich2822 It's not possible. Only about 30 DMM cutting lathes were ever made in the world, and about 10 of them were later converted to be used for conventional lacquer cutting. Georg Neumann GmbH was the only manufacturer the actual DMM cutting equipment as part of its VMS80 series lathes. Since the sale of Neumann to German microphone manufacturer Sennheiser, Neumann no longer produces lathes or supplies parts. As of 2009, there were only seven publicly-usable DMM cutting facilities left in the world, all located in Germany, Netherlands, or Czech Republic. US lost its last DMM cutting facility in 2005 with the closure of New York record manufacturer Europadisk. Europadisk's DMM lathe was sold at auction on 2005 to the Church of Scientology for US $72,500.

    • @dk418
      @dk418 Před 11 měsíci +12

      @@honeysup that was some impressive knowledge on the topic.

    • @bristy.bangel
      @bristy.bangel Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@honeysup why nobody produce them anymore?

  • @user-hv2kd4me4n
    @user-hv2kd4me4n Před rokem +105

    시대의 흐름에 따라 사라져가는 물건들이 많지만 오래도록 그 끈을 놓지않고 명맥을 이어가는 이런 업체들의 노력에 감사의 박수를 보냅니다👏👏👏

    • @doctordapp
      @doctordapp Před rokem +10

      For record pressing companies the times where hard between 1990 and 2010, they almost exclusively survived through that on the dance scene and dj hypes.
      Since 2010 the demand is rising and the presses are running overtime.
      My customer makes records as well, he went from 12 presses from the 1980's to 24 presses now, had to redevelop these presses himself as they aren't produced anymore.

  • @guyb7995
    @guyb7995 Před rokem +398

    This is why LPs are as much mechanical art as music. Never let them die.

    • @canadianrailfan3507
      @canadianrailfan3507 Před rokem +17

      That’s why I try to get as many as I can at thrift stores that are in good condition as those need saving the good misc

    • @56squadron
      @56squadron Před rokem +9

      Mechanical is a poor choice of words... if anything digital playback sounds mechanical. Records are analog because the actual sound waves cut the groove, so the needle playing it back is as close to the original as you can get.

    • @guyb7995
      @guyb7995 Před rokem +14

      @@56squadron mechanical vs electronic, seems pretty spot on to me. It all ends up as analogy sound waves so analogue is a really poor choice of words. This record also started as a digital sound file from the looks of it, so its not always actually fully analogue.

    • @CoopyKat
      @CoopyKat Před rokem +14

      @GuyB I discovered the truth about LP's and digital music when I put a record on my old LP (an album I had on CD) and was SHOCKED by how much MORE music I could hear. Digital recording cuts out a percentage of the actual recording. I can see why they're coming back.

    • @CoopyKat
      @CoopyKat Před rokem +6

      @Phillip Banes LOLL you know NOTHING about audio technology. I won't even bother explaining to you the difference between analog and digital.

  • @LA-db9xj
    @LA-db9xj Před rokem +101

    A lot of thought went into even the idea of making a vinyl record. Man's ingenuity and determination is truly amazing at times. As an audiophile I will have a new found respect for my record collection. Thanks for the video!

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 Před rokem +455

    I will never underestimate the making of an LP again.

    • @davidswanson5669
      @davidswanson5669 Před rokem +15

      I will never understand the production of an LP.

    • @TheMrGREENRay
      @TheMrGREENRay Před rokem +33

      @@davidswanson5669 .. 0:51 the most hilarious moment about "warm sound" here.
      "mp3 128 kbps"

    • @chuheihkg
      @chuheihkg Před rokem +2

      so , how about doing something in pure analogue? It looks like around 30 years ago. I do yet know how people edit these in analogue way.

    • @TheUnholyPosole
      @TheUnholyPosole Před rokem +12

      Digital music sure threw a monkey wrench into that sector. It's crazy how powerful computers are, they're definitely going to be the demise of humanity.

    • @eric_in_florida
      @eric_in_florida Před rokem +8

      it sure is a lot of work for some not so great sounding music.

  • @Gan1medes
    @Gan1medes Před 11 měsíci +49

    For such old technology, it's still impressive how it's possible to store audio on a vinyl record.

    • @eletronicagomes4427
      @eletronicagomes4427 Před 9 měsíci +8

      It's possible to store audio with hi quality. They recorded an old music and it'll sound according to but if you listen to a new vinyl with modern songs you'll be surprised. They sound so good and very clean.

    • @C.Europeo
      @C.Europeo Před 3 měsíci +3

      En 16 rpm el sonido es mucho mejor, y se podia grabar películas en ese formato, el disco laser dejo obsoleta esa producción, saludos

    • @aussierob7177
      @aussierob7177 Před 12 dny

      And the sound is so much better than digital.

  • @user-qk2tj7fz9d
    @user-qk2tj7fz9d Před rokem +97

    Очень приятно наблюдать этот завороживающий процесс создания виниловой пластинки. Фирме желаю процветания, а корейцам удачи в этом деле!

    • @Tarasylo2
      @Tarasylo2 Před rokem

      а кацапам бажаю виздихати

    • @DerVico
      @DerVico Před 10 měsíci +12

      Да. Но, По-моему слишком грубая работа для 21 века. Не так ли? Или уже утратили технологии? Выглядит так, что это, примерно 1965 год...

    • @alexnik3884
      @alexnik3884 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@DerVico Ну так предложи новую технологию.

    • @staspustovit6835
      @staspustovit6835 Před 8 měsíci +13

      Самое смешное, что изначально звук пишется на цифру, с нее же подается на базовый диск. И уверен, ни одной лампы ни в каком УНЧ ни на одном этапе не присутствует. Но в виниле происходит чудо - появляется "теплый звук". 🤣
      Кстати, а вы в курсе, что на винил (точней, на базовый диск) звук поступает с измененным АЧХ? Завышаются высокие и занижаются низкие частоты - такая горка с завышенной правой частью. А самый первый УНЧ, снимающий сигнал с "головы", имеет зеркальный АЧХ, чтобы привести его в норму. Далее звук усиливается нормальными УНЧ с ровной АЧХ. Это связано с механическими, физическими параметрами записи на диск и никуда от этого не деться. То есть если низкие частоты записать на диск нормально, то дорожка была бы шире в несколько раз, соответственно уменьшилось бы время звучания/записи. Либо нужно было бы уменьшить в несколько раз уровень сигнала, тогда на порядок вырастут шумы от УНЧ и механические. Поэтому был выбран такой компромисс. А вы говорите "теплый звук". Добавьте к любой записи легкое потрескивание и получите "теплое звучание". 🤣
      Впрочем, понимаю, главное не звук, а магические действия: вытащить пластинку из пакета, слегка дунуть, поставить на проигрыватель, запустить вращение, подвести тонарм... Магия!

    • @user-vm6ym4wi1g
      @user-vm6ym4wi1g Před 7 měsíci

      @@staspustovit6835 сжимается динамический диапазон

  • @user-ow5bj2xn1j
    @user-ow5bj2xn1j Před rokem +16

    Музыка это душевная составляющая для человека.
    Вы делаете огромное дело.
    СПАСИБО ВАМ 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @layla4315
    @layla4315 Před rokem +27

    この技術はこの先もずっと受け継がれていって欲しいなぁ

  • @petercook7502
    @petercook7502 Před 7 měsíci +21

    I'm not a vinyl person but when you see all the processes involved its somewhat amazing that vinyl sounds as good as it does.

  • @AndrewSh80
    @AndrewSh80 Před rokem +56

    Просто удивительное зрелище, я не смог оторваться, хоть и знал, что пластинки через матрицу печатают. Здорово, что еще остались такие предприятия.👍

    • @mmontana73
      @mmontana73 Před rokem +1

      Так их и в России производят.

    • @partizanluki
      @partizanluki Před rokem +1

      @@mmontana73 В каком городе и кто?

    • @axelmak6868
      @axelmak6868 Před rokem

      ​@@mmontana73 МируМир что ли фирма? Дак производство не у нас.

    • @Imaginary_mike
      @Imaginary_mike Před 11 měsíci

      @@axelmak6868 Ультра Продакшн. Только качество там плавает.

    • @Fgytr-bz9vc
      @Fgytr-bz9vc Před 6 měsíci

      Просто правителями взят курс на средневековье, научно-технический прогресс будет тормозиться.

  • @MIMNED
    @MIMNED Před rokem +36

    My most sincere congratulations for your art. As a great admirer of music and the supports that allow it to be listened to, I have always had the utmost respect for vinyl and compact discs, even those of musical genres that I don't follow. This video demonstrates how much work goes into what many think is just a round piece of plastic...

    • @cd7071
      @cd7071 Před rokem +5

      Yes! When I was young I always wondered why does round piece of plastic sound so good? Now I am older and have seen this video! It has opened my eyes to the beauty and art that goes into record production! My upmost congratulations as well on such a phenomenal creation! My hat also goes off to them as well!

    • @reneastle8447
      @reneastle8447 Před měsícem

      We might see vinyl records making a permanent comeback into the public mainstream, especially when they're being made in America.

  • @victor-346
    @victor-346 Před rokem +30

    I was born 1960 and could never believe that we still today 2022 produce phonograph records! 😁
    Greetings to Korea 🇰🇷 from Japan 🇯🇵

    • @UnyahPe1601
      @UnyahPe1601 Před rokem +3

      I thought it was outdated, 👍💖✌️🙏 Super Korea..!💖💖💖🙏🙈👍

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707 Před rokem +9

      Vinyl LPs now outsell CDs, believe it or not!

    • @shtefjunja5915
      @shtefjunja5915 Před rokem

      @@chrisfreemesser5707 can u tell me reasons for that.isnt cd beter quality then vinyl?

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707 Před rokem +2

      @@shtefjunja5915 It's a really subjective topic but vinyl fans believe that vinyl sounds "warmer" and more natural than CDs since it's an analog medium. IMHO there's truth to this but it requires the entire process (recording, editing, and creating the LPs) to be 100% analog, and that's not the case with most (if not all) modern recordings

    • @johnnywadd3020
      @johnnywadd3020 Před rokem +1

      @@shtefjunja5915 mp3's are compressed audio

  • @TKELCH
    @TKELCH Před rokem +11

    Love that blue vinyl!! Thanks for sharing this magnificent process!

  • @vicentepaulo9731
    @vicentepaulo9731 Před rokem +23

    Você sabia que no Brasil temos uma fábrica de Vinil também, e em pleno desenvolvimento? Ela se chama Vinil Brasil; É maravilhoso ver estes verdadeiros artistas trabalhando no indústria da gravação em Vinil!

    • @wesleycorrearocha
      @wesleycorrearocha Před 6 měsíci +1

      Sim, o processo é praticamente idêntico. Acho que existem poucas diferenças na questão do maquinário, desta fábrica coreana, que é um pouco mais novo. Mas isso não diminui o mérito e a qualidade da Vinil Brasil. Até porque esses equipamentos não são mais fabricados. E quando dão problema, eles passam por reparos.
      A Vinil Brasil também faz uma inspeção sonora na matriz e depois visual nos discos prontos. E após uma tiragem de 50 cópias, eles fazem uma outra inspeção, que inclui a sonora, a fim de evitar falhas na produção.

    • @TcBose
      @TcBose Před 2 měsíci

  • @OgDj2024
    @OgDj2024 Před rokem +21

    I have loved vinyl all my life, and I’ve actually never seen the process of how they are made. This was intriguing!

    • @cd7071
      @cd7071 Před rokem

      Yes! I have also seen this process as well! What a wonderful and fascinating creation th3e vinyl “records” are! If only digital music was this cool it would be great, but once music is digitized it no longer creates the true curve of sound signatures and degrades the actual signals. No more digital for me, I am fully vinyl now forevermore! Thanks!

  • @RussianIvan
    @RussianIvan Před rokem +25

    Очень интересное и удивительное производство. Спасибо за видео!

    • @spk1571
      @spk1571 Před rokem +9

      жаль что это корея, а наша мелодия давно в чермете(( хотя была бывозможность то же покупал винил, ибо и старых пластнок море, нравятся из журнала кругозор

    • @nickscavenger
      @nickscavenger Před rokem

      @@spk1571 купить можно, но они стоят дороже чем сам проигрыватель

  • @davidstewart5811
    @davidstewart5811 Před rokem +20

    I remember seeing a film back in about 1950 or so that showed this same process for 78, 33 1/3, and 45 RPM records. The 78s were on their way out so to speak, the 33 1/3 were very expensive relative to the cost of the old 78s, and the 45s were the way of the future and very cheap. You could buy a 78 RPM for about $1-2.00 dollars (USD), the 33 1/3 records were in the range of $3.00 to perhaps $10.00 or more depending on the type of music (classical music records were very expensive while children's music, Christmas music, even religious music were much lower in price). The new 45 RPM records were about $0.75 cents each, or even cheaper, and remained in that price range for several years. The 45s were almost exclusively for the new Rock and Roll genre. I remember being amazed at how quickly the records were coming off the assembly line and finally understood why the manufacturing of records was always referred to as "pressing".

    • @chribrian
      @chribrian Před rokem +2

      Believe it or not, CD, DVD and blue ray are pressed also

  • @yiqo3508
    @yiqo3508 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This probably one of the best videos I've watched showing most of the process of making a record

  • @leechanghyun
    @leechanghyun Před rokem +49

    신음반의 LP가 제작되는데 꽤 걸리는 이유가 있었군요... 이렇게 장인정신에다가 손이 많이 가다니... 앞으로는 LP를 더 소중히 여겨야겠네요

  • @user-bg3db6bh2f
    @user-bg3db6bh2f Před rokem +7

    Прямо волшебство! После таких видео понимаешь, почему хороший фирменный пласт недёшево стоит!

    • @---1521
      @---1521 Před rokem

      Я только не понял: почему пластинки из ПВХ?! Виниловая смола с содержанием винилацетата 12-15% и шеллак где?

    • @Kafulso
      @Kafulso Před rokem

      @@---1521
      Современные технологии однако.

    • @---1521
      @---1521 Před rokem

      @@Kafulso , ок, но почему пластинка такими волнами? Это пластинка такая горбатая или диск проигрывателя?

    • @user-sr4vm8xm1q
      @user-sr4vm8xm1q Před rokem +2

      ​@@---1521 шеллак давно не используется. С конца 50-х делают из винилацетата.

  • @peace-yv4qd
    @peace-yv4qd Před rokem +52

    As a Man who grew up in an era before Compact Discs and music streaming I so much appreciate seeing these videos. In my opinion the only way to truly enjoy music is either attending a live performance or playing a well recorded vinyl record on a good turntable with a good cartridge. Add to that the right amplifier, speakers and other tweaks and you have all you need to achieve listening nirvana.

    • @peace-yv4qd
      @peace-yv4qd Před rokem +7

      @@davidwanklyn8842 Was born in 1945 and remember listening to the radio before TV became the staple. Watching a 12 inch TV screen was considered a thrill back then if you could afford a TV. 😉

    • @a4andrei
      @a4andrei Před rokem +17

      Well, a lossless digital recording and a good quality player, with proper DAC, amplifier and speakers, produces the most accurate depiction. Vinyl adds distortion, which people also call "the vinyl sound". It's got a specific sound signature to it. In other words, digital recordings are as precise as you can go, while vinyl is imperfectly perfect in its own way. The irony is, most new vinyl recordings, are made from a digitized master.

    • @crabby7668
      @crabby7668 Před rokem +8

      No digital recording is truly lossless because it is sampled. Lossless really refers to the codec algorithm which doesn't lose information when it's decoded, as some do. There are many good reasons to go digital, but any conversion from analogue will lose some information. The only way not to is to have an infinite rate of sampling, which is obviously impractical.

    • @neonalavastr1260
      @neonalavastr1260 Před rokem +4

      Вот только раньше винил был аналоговым, а сейчас стал цифровым(((
      (записывается цифрой из компьютера).

    • @milkywayexplorer942
      @milkywayexplorer942 Před rokem +1

      100% ok with you.

  • @semectual
    @semectual Před rokem +1

    At least there are companies out there Still Making Vinyl Records! None of these new Streaming Websites will EVER stop these new Vinyl Records! Great Video!

  • @DJ_Sirius
    @DJ_Sirius Před rokem +2

    오래전에 djing을 바이닐로 시작했습니다
    한창 플레이 할때 저만의 LP set을 위해 회현상가,동묘시장,홍대레코드샵을 전전하고 해외샵도 이베이도 이용하고 했죠 ㅎㅎㅎ
    아직도 플레이를 했던 수많은 LP 전면부의 이미지와 그위에 새겨진 작은 스티커들이 선명하게 기억납니다
    지금의 빠르고 정확한 스트리밍에는 느낄수 없는
    LP 그 특유의 질감과 정전기, 바늘이 내는 노이즈 뒤에 흐르는 음악은 조금은 따뜻하고 아련한 무엇이 있는거 같습니다
    말로만 듣고 알고만 있었는데 하나 남은 국내의 LP 제조공정을 이렇게 자세히 보니 신기합니다!
    앞으로도 멋진 바이닐 레코드 제조회사로 더욱 더 번창하길 바랍니다

  • @doctordapp
    @doctordapp Před rokem +90

    A customer of mine has a record pressing plant as well.
    Very cool to watch the production of records.
    Currently there are new presses made again which didn't happen between 1990 and 2015.
    A lot more is automosed over there, but also still a lot of handwork.
    Good that in times of more and more digital this old school technique prevails for lots of people.

    • @francescozani9488
      @francescozani9488 Před rokem +9

      Wow, new machinery to make records, that's really good news!

    • @michaelhorgan9525
      @michaelhorgan9525 Před rokem +3

      ​@@francescozani9488 There are some trying to make new lathes but it takes time. I know Flo Kaufmann makes a couple of them per year in his shop in Solothurn using old Neumann bodies discarded from the war.

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari Před rokem +1

      Go on, put us folk out of our misery and tell us who and where. The more that the knowledge of what is happening spreads the more demand there will be.

    • @funkylemon7826
      @funkylemon7826 Před rokem

      How do one get tracks of choice on record

    • @funkylemon7826
      @funkylemon7826 Před rokem +2

      I'm in South Africa & it's a hustle to find records after the elections in 1994

  • @user-tn4gx8zp8g
    @user-tn4gx8zp8g Před rokem +63

    이 척박한 국내 음반 시장에서 대단한 일을 하고 있는 회사라 생각 합니다.
    박수 받을 만한 일을 하고 계십니다 !

  • @MiguelFidanza
    @MiguelFidanza Před rokem +12

    Dá uma satisfação incrível só de ver o processo do vinil.

  • @jorgedossantosramos1710
    @jorgedossantosramos1710 Před rokem +9

    Muito boa essa reportagem, como colecionador de vinil ,sempre tive a curiosidade de saber como eram produzidos, valeu coreanos ,Belém do Pará Amazônia,Norte do Brasil .

  • @xexex7017
    @xexex7017 Před rokem +19

    Благодарю!!! Радует, что осталось производство.

    • @rusivan7208
      @rusivan7208 Před rokem +2

      Корейцы в этом плане вообще молодцы, ничего не выбрасывают (в плане изобретений)

    • @tutengeymkovsky8365
      @tutengeymkovsky8365 Před rokem +1

      Ага, станки древние, как дерьмо мамонта...

    • @xexex7017
      @xexex7017 Před rokem

      @@tutengeymkovsky8365 есть лучше варианты?

    • @jonueflbana6864
      @jonueflbana6864 Před rokem

      @@xexex7017 Лазерная гравировка?

    • @xexex7017
      @xexex7017 Před rokem

      @@jonueflbana6864 я не большой знаток изготовления винила. Интересуюсь для общего развития. Не так давно, к примеру, смотрел процесс изготовления электронных ламп. Увлекательно.

  • @ATMAtim
    @ATMAtim Před rokem +10

    I absolutely love this video. Thank you for showing us the precision task of pressing a record.
    How awesome!

  • @mariomusico2010
    @mariomusico2010 Před 8 měsíci

    Perfect and real sine wave sound! No scratch, no rumble! Pure sound!!

  • @OpenLifeForms
    @OpenLifeForms Před rokem +1

    Довготривалий процес та коштовний. На що не підеш заради мистецтва!

  • @Kulibinru
    @Kulibinru Před rokem +21

    Супер!
    Как хорошо что этим ещё кто-то занимается!

    • @mmontana73
      @mmontana73 Před rokem

      Так их и в России производят.

    • @unclechayka1178
      @unclechayka1178 Před rokem

      @@mmontana73 И много ли Мелодия штампует хороших пластинок? На их сайте видел лишь каких то ноунеймов и из старых запасов продажу

    • @voloviks
      @voloviks Před měsícem

      @@unclechayka1178 сейчас, что-то изменилось ? или всё познаётся в сравнении ...😂😂

    • @unclechayka1178
      @unclechayka1178 Před měsícem

      щас вышли неплохие переиздания классики, прикупил себе новую мелодию, вполне себе годно@@voloviks

  • @sk22ng
    @sk22ng Před rokem +11

    I appreciate this as I used to play albums and will soon resume playing them through my old JVC QL5 turntable. Just purchased a sweet cartridge to use for this. Interesting to see all the steps. From the acetate master cut on the lathe to the father, then the mother stamping plate and finally the vinyl albums produced.

    • @demef758
      @demef758 Před rokem +2

      Is there such a thing as a bitter cartridge?...

    • @TheIwanttoapologize
      @TheIwanttoapologize Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@demef758Yes, they're bitter because they can't reproduce the sound as faithfully as the digital file the master was made from.

  • @radio0705
    @radio0705 Před 7 měsíci +5

    0:28 - источник сигнала компьютер, запись в цифре. Это всё, что необходимо знать! Далее, в процессе производства мастер-пресса вносятся лишь дополнительные искажения. При штамповке ещё искажения. В итоге вы получаете музыку с динамическим диапазоном 50dB. Для кого-то это магия, которую можно лицезреть и подержать в руках ))

    • @Sonrazuma
      @Sonrazuma Před 4 měsíci

      Да, пальто уже не то...

    • @voloviks
      @voloviks Před měsícem

      ​@@Sonrazuma покупал всё время из детского мира .... а потом и его прикрыли 😂😂

    • @user-ef2li4gg1e
      @user-ef2li4gg1e Před 2 dny +1

      Amazing!

    • @voloviks
      @voloviks Před 2 dny

      @@user-ef2li4gg1e парнишка Серёга с русской фамилией Чистосердов, написал какоет слово амазинг🤣😅

    • @user-ef2li4gg1e
      @user-ef2li4gg1e Před dnem

      @@voloviks в переводе с английского - впечатляюще

  • @ncfamily4
    @ncfamily4 Před rokem

    Thank you for all you do, to keep this historical media alive. My first choice when purchasing music.😊

  • @joaoramos9169
    @joaoramos9169 Před rokem +75

    É incrível a produção do vinil , uma obra de arte , não deve nunca acabar 👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @the_one_who_looks
    @the_one_who_looks Před rokem +8

    Это удивительно. всегда было интересно, как производят Виниловые пластинки и почему они такие дорогие. Спасибо вам за видео

    • @iam21h
      @iam21h Před rokem +4

      это сейчас они дорогие просто потому, что их делают в штучных количествах. на самом деле собрать оборудование для записи не очень сложно самому даже в домашних условиях, а пустые виниловые болванки под запись свободно в инете продаются. че хочешь то и записываешь на них. но можно и без виниловых болванок, раньше на рентгеновских снимках тайком от партии вообще записывали.

    • @j.bond-007
      @j.bond-007 Před rokem

      Мда..неужели весь сегодняшний прогресс не позволяет их клепать попроще.

    • @iam21h
      @iam21h Před rokem +1

      @@j.bond-007 штучное количество делают проще, а на видео штамп создают для партий в тысячи шт

    • @user-sr4vm8xm1q
      @user-sr4vm8xm1q Před rokem

      ​@@iam21h собрал я тут копию sx-74 со своими дополнениями типа сменных держателей для резцов. Да, работает. Охлаждение гелием, самариевые магниты, 150вт на канал, усилитель самодельный quad 606. Но вот стол собрать-зело дорогое удовольствие в свете нынешних событий. Пока лежат чертежи. Успел выточить только планшайбу.... Может и вернусь когда нибудь к этому... Когда всё закончится и изменится к лучшему...

  • @tuir52
    @tuir52 Před rokem +4

    Essa é a primeira vez que vejo a fabricação de uma matriz para a reprodução das cópias do disco de vinil. Obrigado internet, já não vou morrer sem ver essa arte tão bela que fez muito sucesso no passado e ainda faz..

    • @Vamp.Ch0vdiixx
      @Vamp.Ch0vdiixx Před rokem

      ❤🎉

    • @eletronicagomes4427
      @eletronicagomes4427 Před 9 měsíci

      Espero que você tenha o prazer de apreciar ao vivo um disco de vinil em condições de alguma música que lhe agrade. É uma experiência única ouvir uma gravação mecânica e analógica girando e soando diante dos seus olhos. Você literalmente enxerga a música como ela é.

  • @carlrudd1858
    @carlrudd1858 Před 9 měsíci

    Probably the best phonograph record making video I've ever seen.

  • @haze____
    @haze____ Před rokem +166

    와.. 다른 영상은 보면 대략 아... 이런 과정이겠구나 싶은데, 이번편은 봐도 뭘 하는 과정인지 잘 모르겠어요... LP판 하나에 저렇게 많은 정성이 들어가다니... 감동입니다

    • @w-rabbit
      @w-rabbit Před rokem +32

      처음 음악을 틀어 바늘로 철판에 홈을새깁니다 그리고 원본철판에 금속을 도금함 그럼 반대로 양각으로 철판이 만들어짐 그걸 틀에넣고 플라스틱을 눌러찍으면 원본 철판과 같은 음악이 새겨진 음각의 레코드판이 완성

    • @southernflatland
      @southernflatland Před rokem +6

      @@w-rabbit I believe you are mostly correct, except you forgot the spray stage. I believe they're using a silver nitrate spray on that step, similar to how they make glass mirrors.

    • @truluv2001
      @truluv2001 Před rokem +23

      라커(원원판)에 소스(테잎이나 디지털파일)를 새긴다
      라커를 세척하고 은도금을 한다
      은도금한 라커에 니켈도금을 한다
      반전상이 새겨진 니켈판을 벗긴다
      정중앙을 맞추고 옆면을 잘라낸다-스탬퍼(원판)완성
      앞뒷면 스탬퍼를 프레스에 세팅하고 앞면라벨-PVC펠릿을 녹인 블랭크-뒷면 라벨 순으로 넣고 프레스로 누른다
      디스크 모양대로 가장자리를 자른다-디스크 완성

    • @seungwooham3204
      @seungwooham3204 Před rokem

      대부분의 영상 초반의 작업은 원본을 만드는 과정이고 이후에는 찍어내는 과정임

    • @Commander_Bunny
      @Commander_Bunny Před rokem

      What?

  • @user-nj5nr3yp3o
    @user-nj5nr3yp3o Před rokem +7

    В 80 -х наблюдал за производством пластинок в Апрелевке -большое производство , стояли наши и импортные машины литьевые .Получали там измерительные пластинки для настройки головок звукоснимателей .

    • @user-sr4vm8xm1q
      @user-sr4vm8xm1q Před rokem

      Чаще всего такие пластинки поставлялись с оборудованием звукозаписи Neumann, с них снимали копии. Так же были калибровочные ленты для студийного магнитофона Studer, с которого, собственно, и велась запись (мастер-лента).

  • @djdunay
    @djdunay Před rokem +1

    I'm glad that vinyl is coming back into fasion! ❤ Greeting from Hungary!

  • @Mr666999666999
    @Mr666999666999 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This was a great relaxing video to watch just before bed time. Record making is seemingly an art form. 💿

  • @simonstroud2555
    @simonstroud2555 Před rokem +10

    Wow. I read in many books over the years about how vinyl records are made, but this really brings the process to life. Didn't realise just how many steps are involved. Thanks very much!

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari Před rokem +1

      The magical process is the reduction silver that is sprayed on. You may notice there are two streams of liquid, one with silver the other with a reducer that makes the silver precipitate from solution and deposit on the shellac master to provide a near perfect impression of the cut grooves, backed with the electroplated (usually) nickel it forms the stamper to make the grooves in the vinyl almost exact copies of the cut grooves.

  • @miaou1136
    @miaou1136 Před rokem +14

    와..이런 공정으로 레코드판이 만들어지는줄 몰랐네요...신기합니다...

  • @user-rw4ig7cy1q
    @user-rw4ig7cy1q Před 4 měsíci

    Желаю этой компании дальнейшего развития и процветания !👍👍👍

  • @ludwigsamereier8204
    @ludwigsamereier8204 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Good golly this is rocket science. After 50 years of collecting records I finally understand how they are made. Thank you very much!!!

  • @crabby7668
    @crabby7668 Před rokem +78

    Very interesting and informative. I am surprised how many manual stages are performed purely by hand/eye. I am sure they are very skilled operators, but you would think that many of those operations have great leeway to introduce imperfections in the recording grooves. I thought the silver coat might have been vacuum deposited or electrostatically , but just spraying on with a "hose" I would never have guessed!
    Great video.

    • @CiscoWes
      @CiscoWes Před rokem +22

      I was wondering about that as well. Looks like they had a master, then made a copy of the master, and then pressed records from that. I thought they would make copies right from the master. I guess the actual master is kept safe and isn’t used so they can make copies again. Interesting video.

    • @socalltd
      @socalltd Před rokem +11

      @@CiscoWes Correct. Laqure discs are masters that produce Mother discs for the stamper copies.

    • @ondrejsedlak4935
      @ondrejsedlak4935 Před rokem +38

      @@CiscoWes They need to make a pressing master as the original master is a "positive" impression of the grooves. Using that one directly would create a "negative" print, so to speak.
      That's why they need to create a "negative" before they can make more "positives" again.

    • @silver_surfer88
      @silver_surfer88 Před rokem +8

      Can give soul to the discs also, sometimes perfection is not the best

    • @WDeranged
      @WDeranged Před rokem +14

      This is why more than half the vinyl out there is riddled with clicks straight from the factory.

  • @kaushikchatterjee9137
    @kaushikchatterjee9137 Před rokem +4

    Vinyl is divine format for listening pure analog audio.comeback vinyl..Congratulation from India.🙏🙏🙏❤

  • @sarcomakaposi2054
    @sarcomakaposi2054 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for respecting the studio quality of the audio source to cut the master. I've seen some vinyl factories pressing vinyls using CDs as masters.

  • @guri311
    @guri311 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Das waren noch Zeiten, als man die Musik auf dem Tonträger noch SEHEN konnte. ;-)

  • @agencjaad6980
    @agencjaad6980 Před rokem +10

    Więcej takich materiałów ! Szalenie pożyteczne.

  • @user-xk9ic1nd7n
    @user-xk9ic1nd7n Před rokem +9

    Отлично! Запись волшебного винила осуществляется с проклятой цифры! Винил же в силу своей волшебности всё исправит, ну ещё поможет ламповый усилитель...😁

    • @TheRus13
      @TheRus13 Před rokem +8

      И отслушанные конденсаторы с проводами из бескислородной меди и стрелочками с направлением движения звука! :)

    • @user-uk4ze6yh5n
      @user-uk4ze6yh5n Před 2 měsíci +1

      ну это сейчас с компа а раньше с мастер ленты

    • @voloviks
      @voloviks Před měsícem

      да можно ржать сколько угодно, но есть вещи, которые остались только на виниле
      в наш безумный век тырнета, какой-нить "задрот"коллекционер бережно сохранит, а сеть нет )

    • @user-xk9ic1nd7n
      @user-xk9ic1nd7n Před měsícem

      @@voloviks, вот интересно... Ты название ролика читал вообще? Ну, подскажу, не поленюсь. Здесь речь про нынешнее производство. Нынешнее! Разницу понимаешь?)

    • @voloviks
      @voloviks Před měsícem

      >вот интересно...
      @@user-xk9ic1nd7n то что тебе интересно поговорить, я поняла )
      нынешнее производство, как с моей мессагой не вяжется ?

  • @claudioguglielmi468
    @claudioguglielmi468 Před rokem

    Stupendo 👏👏 vinil Forever 🎵🎵🎵🎵🎸🎸🎸🎸🎹🎹🎹🎹

  • @BazhaevSkala
    @BazhaevSkala Před rokem

    Молодцы ребята! Благодаря вам, "классика", как таковая, никогда не утратит своей силы и актуальности! Россия уже все утратила, если говорить о производствах.... А ВЫ, молодцы! Большой привет Вам с Урала!!!

  • @kumasan1969
    @kumasan1969 Před rokem +43

    日本にも一社存在するみたいだけど、世界各地でこんな感じで細々ながら大切に技術が守られていくのはよいことだなぁと思った。どうしてもLPでアルバムを出したいというミュージシャン達もいらっしゃるわけだし。ハンガリー出身の技術者が完成させたLPレコードの技術がいろんな国に広がり愛されて受け継がれていくのは美しいことだなと思う。

    • @ppkt9465
      @ppkt9465 Před rokem +3

      2社だそうです。
      1社は横浜市鶴見区が有名ですが他の1社は知りません。

  • @rafarodriguez9757
    @rafarodriguez9757 Před rokem +17

    Amazing! I have the same Audio Technica turntable.

  • @Peterrdee
    @Peterrdee Před rokem +6

    We need Japan to start making vinyl again! And do worldwide distribution their technology is so good and they really put a lot of quality in their mastering

  • @rmc9247
    @rmc9247 Před rokem +3

    Vinil.... Maravilhoso e o processo sensacional.

  • @klistarf
    @klistarf Před rokem +13

    Wow! As someone who still owns many hundreds of vinyl records, dating back to when i first started buying them in the 1970's, i found this absolutely fascinating. I don't play them anymore as the times and trends have changed, and over the years i updated many of them to CD, and now, like most people, i pretty much stream everything i listen to, (on Apple Music). But, i would never part with my collection. They will stay with me until i am no longer on this mortal coil. It is great also, to see the huge resurgence that vinyl continues to make. I read just recently that it has now overtaken CD's. How times change. Thanks for posting this! 🧿 💿

    • @andrewlim300
      @andrewlim300 Před rokem +1

      It is good to keep them as the sound quality and resolution on vinyl is much higher than CDs. CDs cap their sound frequency to 20000 hz, vinyl however can go upwards of over 100000 hz. Also, in terms of resolution it will also surpass CDs as CDs are 16 bit.

    • @ellisgarbutt1925
      @ellisgarbutt1925 Před rokem +1

      Cds are way bette in kpbs than streaming cds are 1,411 KPBS apple music is only 256

    • @klistarf
      @klistarf Před rokem

      @@ellisgarbutt1925 Yeah, i understand that, but there is no possible way i could buy all of what i have on my AM (that i don't already own on vinyl and/or CD already). The current total stands at some three-and-a-half thousand (mostly) albums 😆

    • @dougdavis8986
      @dougdavis8986 Před rokem

      Break out the turntable. Just say no to streaming!

    • @Rr0gu3_5uture
      @Rr0gu3_5uture Před rokem

      @@andrewlim300 Not so much for new vinyl, as the vast majority of music, is now recorded on a DAW and mastered digitally.

  • @jandiranqueiros1828
    @jandiranqueiros1828 Před rokem +134

    Nunca tinha visto o processo do disco que é no caso a master, para em seguida fazer as cópias. É um trabalho belo e fascinante. Parabéns aos profissionais.

    • @cybertechbh1481
      @cybertechbh1481 Před rokem +18

      uma pena ter deixado para traz o principal , que é a captaçao e gravaçao analogica , nao tem graça gravar de origem digital como eles fizeram ae ., o Vinil em sua essencia todos os processos devem ser analogicos , captaçao, gravaçao , masterizaçao e por fim a prensagem , pegar um arquivo wave e gravar no vinil , ficara a mesma qualidade de um CD , o analogico puro é muito superior.

    • @audiumline4615
      @audiumline4615 Před rokem +6

      Exato!🖒👀 não faz sentido além que uma fita Mestre bem gravada é melhor que uma digital e a ideia é reproduzir em ANALÓGICO. 🤔

    • @altivoinaciocardosojunior3444
      @altivoinaciocardosojunior3444 Před rokem +1

      Boa noite parceiro dúvida sabe dizer se pode usar outro tipo de plástico para fazer os discos

    • @leandroribeiro6144
      @leandroribeiro6144 Před rokem +23

      @@cybertechbh1481 eu faço remaster (Passo pra digital e faço o tratamento) de LP's tanto antigos da época em que o processo produtivos era todo analógico como das produções atuais. Por experiência própria o áudio dos Lp's atuais são oriundas de fonte digital, mas eles usam fonte em alta definição no caso 24bits/96khz, 24bits/192khz ou até mesmo uma fonte em 32bits 192khz pode ser usada, já que existe a alguns anos interfaces de áudio que gravam nessa resolução . No CD a resolução é de 16 bits/44,1khz, apesar da produção dos Lp's atuais ser de origem de áudio processado digitalmente, vale a pela converter para digital para ter o áudio em alta definição, visto que não existem serviços onde se possa compar. música , principalmente nacional em alta definição.
      Eu concordo com vc , é triste que os discos atuais seja feito de fonte digital, o correto seria que todo o processo de produção desde a gravação mixagem edição, masterização, até chegar a gravação no acetato, seja todo feito de forma analógica , usando os rolos de fita como era feito antigamente. É um processo bem trabalhoso sim , mas o diferencial é justamente esse, que todo o processo do áudio seja feito com equipamentos analógicos usando os rolos de fita. Isso traz uma sonoridade única que o digital mesmo com os plug-ins não consegue igualar, até pq o sinal analógico tem infinitos pontos e o digital tem um número finito(isso é determinado pelo número de bits). A medida que se aumenta a resolução da gravação digital, mais próximo fica do sinal analógico (infinitos pontos) , quando se faz 2^16=65,536, é o número de níveis possíveis que podem ser capturados do sinal analógico, quando se faz 2^24=16.777.216, se tem todos esse níveis que são capturados na gravação digital em 24 bits, absurdamente maior do que o número de níveis da gravação em 16 bits. O sinal analógico como já foi dito tem infinitos pontos, ou seja a gravação digital tenta se aproximar do sinal analógico quando vc grava com resolução cada vez maior , mas nunca é igual. Mas para efeito de qualidade 24 bits já a atinge um nível de qualidade de excelência dentro da faixa dinâmica do ser humano que é de 120DB, teoricamente uma gravação de 24bits chegar a 144 DB, mas na prática não chega a tudo isso pq existem limitações na eletrônica, os conversores atuais chegam próximo do 120 DB. O problema do vinil são os chiados, estalos, ruídos , que podem aparecer com arranhões , poeira, partículas diversas etc., mas quando se extrai essas imperfeições o som é inigualável. Concluído o sistema LP (Long Play) é um sistema de som de alta definição analógico, e é justamente esse o barato, por isso seria tão importante que se voltasse a produzir os mesmos em processo produtivo 100% analógico.

    • @hernandegalli7902
      @hernandegalli7902 Před rokem +3

      @@leandroribeiro6144 esse manja do assunto
      Meus parabéns amigo

  • @yotaiji012
    @yotaiji012 Před 11 měsíci +2

    He is one of the few remaining Mastering engineers who can do vinyl.

  • @kck1002
    @kck1002 Před rokem +4

    스틸 원판에 음원을 녹음하여 여러 제조공정을 거친후 원료가 합성 플라스틱인지 몰라도 파란색의 원료 덩어리를 틀에 너어 대량으로 복사하는건 처음 봤네요... 이런식으로 LP판이 생산되는걸 알게되어 뜻깊은 영상 이었습니다.

  • @paulolage680
    @paulolage680 Před rokem +14

    Parabéns por manter vivo este trabalho !

  • @fergusof
    @fergusof Před rokem

    Amazing! I have a lot of old LPs and still play some of them.

  • @graycain
    @graycain Před 9 měsíci +1

    디지털 음원 -> 유리판에 레코딩 -> 크롬 코팅 -> 알루미늄으로 증착 -> 마스터 LP 금형 -> LP 압출
    이런 공정 같네요.

  • @bond7459
    @bond7459 Před rokem +21

    What a great work,super cool.

  • @russian_thinker
    @russian_thinker Před 3 měsíci +1

    Очуметь!! ⚘️😇👍

  • @eseoleimeseoleim5254
    @eseoleimeseoleim5254 Před 9 měsíci

    이거 정말 뭐라 말을 할수 없는 묘한 분위기네 정말 어렵고 힘든과정으로 음악을 듣는거군요 .....감사해요^^

  • @C-130-Hercules
    @C-130-Hercules Před rokem +6

    I love how in the first stages they meticulously, clean it with little puffs of air along the way keeping it clean. The next scene, a belt sander. 😮

    • @alexandertoth2808
      @alexandertoth2808 Před rokem

      in that stage the compressed air is used to dry it, not to keep it clean, next a sander is used to remove the edge to be able to open a double layer matrix - and all important analog information is inside - in between those two layers.

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs3990 Před rokem +4

    This video is the cleanest vinyl pressing facility I have seen on youtube. I also never saw the sanding procedure done before. Is it to give a better grip?

    • @DarrenGlen
      @DarrenGlen Před rokem

      i agree most videos ive seen looks like its being done in the back room of a car shop with grease and crap all over the place

  • @azumi-osaki
    @azumi-osaki Před rokem +4

    the manufacturing process is very artistic just like those who play an instrument by composing music... 💕

  • @paulogss2175
    @paulogss2175 Před 26 dny +1

    É um trabalho Muito bonito!
    Gostei deste video!

  • @wongchristian5181
    @wongchristian5181 Před rokem +5

    This is a very excellent documentary video of how LP disk produced👍

  • @rac80sfan55
    @rac80sfan55 Před rokem +5

    ¡Me encanta! Gracias por compartir.

  • @mtkoshy6284
    @mtkoshy6284 Před rokem

    Very interesting. Never imagined such a lot of skilled manual work to make a master disc!!

  • @julianosantos4684
    @julianosantos4684 Před rokem +3

    Fantástico uma verdadeira obra de arte, não deixem acabar.

  • @hellodiamond
    @hellodiamond Před rokem +13

    와.. 진짜 겁나 신기하네요.어떻게 저런 설비를 만들었지

  • @user-os1bv2bz5h
    @user-os1bv2bz5h Před rokem +5

    반죽같이 생긴 것을 눌러서 찍어 내는 것만 봤지 이런 전 처리 과정은 처음 보내요~ 귀한 영상 잘 보고 갑니다.^^

  • @gilo7171
    @gilo7171 Před rokem

    Polska kolęda !!! Zagrana w innych tonacjach ! DZISIAJ W BETLEJEM !

  • @DasTechnomancer
    @DasTechnomancer Před rokem

    Very cool to see how much of the process they have yet to automate there, skilled technicians indeed!

  • @russelljohnson6243
    @russelljohnson6243 Před rokem +4

    I really enjoyed watching this manual process, it was fascinating!

  • @user-wt2dh9kt7s
    @user-wt2dh9kt7s Před rokem +3

    Это прекрасно!!!

  • @TOOR4073
    @TOOR4073 Před rokem

    Excellent production. I love to listen vinyl records.

  • @arhipovskiy
    @arhipovskiy Před rokem +3

    Молодцы !!! Красиво всё , здорово . На пластинках звук хорош. Но процесс производства пластинок должен быть на очень высоком уровне . Спасибо.

  • @haerong_ii
    @haerong_ii Před rokem +7

    너무 신기해요!!! LP를 들으면서 어떻게 제조할까 너무 궁금했는데, 이렇게 보여주시다니 감사합니다 . LP도 정말 한장한장 아기처럼 소중하게 제작되네요. 지금 갖고있는 LP더 소중하게 다뤄야겠어요

  • @user-iz7oy8jn7q
    @user-iz7oy8jn7q Před rokem +4

    台灣1970年代,黑膠唱片壓製我看過,但像這種連母版 一貫作業系統的規模,倒是第一次見識到,厲害了 高麗國! 🤩🤩🤩

  • @amogahi777
    @amogahi777 Před rokem +2

    세계 각국 사람들이 LC판에 관심을 가지는 모습이 왜인지 가슴을 따듯하게 해요..

  • @KmiGlobal
    @KmiGlobal Před rokem +25

    Вау это так красиво выглядит на самом деле. В первые вижу как они делаются на самом деле. В живую я их видел так как у моих родственников бабушки и у дедушки был проигрыватель и сами эти диски но как они делаются не когда в жизни не видел. За это огромное спасибо.

    • @webarchitect
      @webarchitect Před rokem +3

      В былые времена их называли "пластинки", а не диски. И они были чёрные, и всегда двусторонние.

    • @MDV-YT-Samara
      @MDV-YT-Samara Před rokem +5

      @@webarchitect еще были гибкие пластинки и цветные, а не только черные.

    • @agatkz3446
      @agatkz3446 Před rokem +4

      @@webarchitect Не всегда были черные и не всегда двухсторонние. На счет пластинок верно, но и дисками тоже называли в 80-е годы.

    • @webarchitect
      @webarchitect Před rokem +4

      @@agatkz3446 , действительно! Была даже передача "Кружатся диски". А ещё был какой-то квадратный журнал с дыркой в середине, а некоторые из его страниц были голубой музыкальной гибкой пластинкой; и его можно было сначала читать, а потом слушать.

    • @user-bd6rq7jt3r
      @user-bd6rq7jt3r Před rokem +6

      @@webarchitect Кругозор журнал назывался этот

  • @gonzagagomes2861
    @gonzagagomes2861 Před rokem +11

    Melhor vídeo, muito lindo ❤️🙏

  • @charleshines7282
    @charleshines7282 Před rokem +3

    Who knew how precise the manufacturing of a record was. It is _impressive_

  • @sigurt100
    @sigurt100 Před 8 měsíci

    Этот процесс завораживает, просто волшебство какое-то.

  • @MrMopar413
    @MrMopar413 Před rokem +11

    Awesome video. Being a audiophile for decades. Talking about the process of making LP’s this video is excellent in showing the hole process from the master’s then making the master stampers , thanks for the video.

    • @demef758
      @demef758 Před rokem +1

      There is more to the manufacturing process than the hole...

    • @MrMopar413
      @MrMopar413 Před rokem

      @@demef758 sure is👍

    • @MrAudioBill
      @MrAudioBill Před rokem

      @@demef758 Glad I watched the Whole process.

  • @weirdshibainu
    @weirdshibainu Před rokem +5

    I find it fascinating that someone developed both the technique and the equipment for the process

    • @iangoulding7808
      @iangoulding7808 Před rokem +1

      I agree there were so many stages where the process could affect the end product. Such skill!

    • @bastienpabiot3678
      @bastienpabiot3678 Před rokem

      Many different people developed the technique, equipment and proccess at different times in history

  • @DjDelaFlav
    @DjDelaFlav Před 10 měsíci

    It's always so cool✌️ to see the way vinyl💿 get's pressed..

  • @techdefined9420
    @techdefined9420 Před rokem

    Fantastic video, true craftmanship.Always wondered how LP are made.

  • @monglekim409
    @monglekim409 Před rokem +7

    이번은 각 과장마다 설명이 필요한 영상인거 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
    LP판 제작하는 것이 반도체 웨이퍼만큼이나 세밀하군요!!

  • @videovi7622
    @videovi7622 Před rokem +4

    O ser humano é muito inteligente, a gente às vezes não ideia do quão ele pode ser. Que está virtude contamine a todos em todo mundo. A gente merece! Precisamos no amar. Feliz Natal.