How Does Thermal Paste Work?
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- čas přidán 28. 11. 2016
- Thermal paste is a messy but crucial component of your PC - without it, your poor CPU would cook to death! How does it work, what materials does it contain to aid heat transfer, and can you REALLY use toothpaste in a pinch?
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3:23
Is this what Apple uses in order to prevent customers from being able to switch out parts? LOL
MrGhost370
LOL nothing says fuck you than... Welding their parts so you can't take them off ha
companies solder parts together so they could make the product smaller.
Alab lmao, the solder is not necessary to make it smaller
ButterSquids
But... That's what apple told him so it must be true
ButterSquids try to have a latching system for the cpu, gpu, ram and then try to make it small. yeah, i thought so.
Novice builders, here's a quick guide on how to find what's enough thermal compound.
It will come (most likely) in a little syringe type applicator. There's PLENTY in it so don't worry about wasting a little bit. After the mating surfaces have been cleaned with alcohol, apply a round drop off compound about 1/8th inch wide in the middle of your CPU heat spreader. Mount your cooler as if it were final assembly then carefully take it off again. Check to make sure the thermal compound covered the CPU without coming over the sides, then clean both surfaces again (just putting it back together can trap air in the compound and hurt performance). If you need to adjust the amount of compound you use do that, if not then great! This method should keep everything clean and use very little thermal compound.
but . . . can you use thermal paste as toothpaste?
sure, and its super yummy too!
Well, there's metal in thermal pasting. But, sure, go ahead and put metal between your teeth. Just let us know know, if it taste and feels good or not. Lol.
haha
Qaedtg H i dont think brushing your teeth with thermal paste would be good
I think u meant can u use toothpaste as thermal paste
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Kyle Keogh good one
Matthew Sorrells I'm glad that's sarcasm because if someone actually thought my joke was funny beyond it just being stupid I would kill myself.
Kyle Keogh I actually thought of that joke before. But since this dollar shave club thing is so old I thought someone made it already, but apparently not.
Join dollar beard club way better! helps you maintain A beautiful sexy man beard! it also helps my gaming to!
My 12-year old little brother:Can I get the new Raptor monitor mom?!?!?!
Mom: NOOOO
My brother: sees this joke and takes it seriously and ends up disappointed
I would love to see a video comparing temperatures with toothpaste vs thermal paste... Would be interesting... Maybe Luke?
Pratik Khairnar Look up JayzTwoCentz, he did a video involving testing different stuff like toothpaste and seeing the performance.
My favorite is mayo
PCGH (some German PC magazine) did it
I thought it was dirty glue when I replaced my heat sink long ago. I scratched it all off, using rubbing alcohol, and got my CPU super shiny. Then I turned my computer on. Then my computer turned itself off. 🔥💻🔥
I once used thermal paste. Now my teeth are shiny silver, just like that Joker's teeth in Suicide Squad. 😁
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thanks bb. I will pray that you lose some weight so you could finally get up and not just roll on your back :(
why not mad max? they did it before it was cool.
AND YOU KNOW
LOL that photo of a dog on your profile! hahahhaa... hilarious! :D
Kitty S thanks :P
My profile picture is a small cropped out clip of a larger profile background I made in photoshop for a girlfriend I haven't spoken to in 10 years....
Always wanted to know this! Thanks and good weekend
While not a comparison, this does shed some more light on the subject. Thanks for listening @LinusTechTips!
Linus Sebastian as fast as possible ples!
known for messing up computers and products, especially at events
Linus actually has a video about how he got to where is here on CZcams though.
Search for "How I became Linus Sebastian".
Saitham But what about Linus generally rather than his intro to youtube/ltt
Chubb-R LinusCatTips gives you a bit of that.
1:20 the Space Shuttle's thermal tiles used air in small packets basically. Underneath the few thousand degree tile surfaces was aluminum which melts at around 600f.
Jesus, that stock photo @ 0:04.. the amount of thermal paste they used is actually full on tilting me.
Another CZcamsr covered his GPU (I think GTX 680?) completely in non-conductive paste just to prove that it doesn't do anything. He was fed up with comments like these.
So, maybe we can force Linus to do it too?
it was jay2cents
Yeah but that was because it was non-conductive, right? What if you put that much using conductive paste?
Would that happen to be JayZtwocents?
MrBall Breeder I didn't want to mention the name because someone once accused me of advertising, weird people.
You should do a video comparing the effects of using a heatsink with or without thermal paste. Maybe see if you can cool some lower end processor with a really big cooler without thermal paste.
Thanks man, Im writing an Essay on Thermal Paste (im a student) and this was one of the only sources that explained how it helps with heat transfer...
2:23 I heard that falling sound!
[...] by a few degrees in most cases. Wow this was a fckn pun. Case as if something happens and case as computer box.
wow...
Could you guys do a fast as possible on grounds, and what the heck the third prong on our power cord does?
i second this notion
the third one is the neutral thing that makes it a little bit safer iirc.basically avoid your stuff from exploding in case lightning hits the power cables
BunnyHelp has to be summarized and easy to consume,which is why they are asking techquickie
God I love Hyper-Physics, but I still really want to hear linus talk about how the ground is functionally useless, or luke.
@@brozach1394 the ground isnt useless
Its a great safety feature.
I love the way Canadian's say against.
ah-gain-st
We say it how it's spelled.
I guess they also say "again" as "a-gain".
Yep, at least a lot of us do
some British people also do that
1:20 "...the good stuff anyway"
I thought he was going to say that cocaine was a good conductor.
was thinking about this for a while thx
I am connecting a set of brass band heaters to the outside of a steel pipe for a school project. I want the inside of the pipe to be as hot as possible to melt plastic for 3d printer filament. Would it be a good idea to apply thermal paste between the heaters and the pipe for maximum thermal conductivity? Thanks
The joke at 3:42 wasn't even that bad, like at all.
With that said, the video is great as usual. good work
I used to add some ground graphite to toothpaste and then use it as thermal paste! Did a good job at cooling but not as good as a high end thermal paste!
Having watched Vertasium... it seems obvious that the aerogel, as seen through the thermal camera... actually absorbs a whole lot of the heat from the flamethrower... which means the heat doesn't need to be transferred anywhere else which is quite a unique insulator kept absolutely cool to the touch... because the heat struggles within each tiny enough pore almost preventing every bit of friction. If correct... there will not even be a need for GPU cooling fans.
The secret ingredient that makes thermal paste effective is "Mint"
Do a vid on thermal paste vs toothpaste
a few years ago i used automotive Copper grease as a thermal paste substitute. being copper based it worked quite well cooling wise. however being a grease meant it was a bit messy!!!
great explanation!!!!!
Reminds me of the days of repairing old 360s with the RRoD.
The CPUs on mainframes sometimes have flat (not concave or convex) heatsinks with a thin layer of silicon oil between the heatsink and cpu.
Thanks for the info
This is a good look for Luke!
4:02 Okay so we can use the shaving cream as thermal paste too? Nice!! Got sum of those
Useful video
Can we please have another whole room water cooling level of epic? Or at least another office vlog?
How about some episodes on different kinds of Server tech? Things like server/client computing and Remote Apps?
Please Luke, make a movie of cooking in the pan, and holding above it!! xD
Only thing you left out were liquid metal TIMs like CLU/CLP which use Gallium and other similar metals, tho they are highly conductive and will destroy any aluminum they comes into contact with.
But do a fantastic job with de-lidded CPUs over Intel's stock pastes.
can someone tell what thermal paste to buy so i wont have to keep replacing thermal paste and i am buildin a threadripper 1920 and it will be stock and i have a noctua air cooler
Well, Luke, thanks for that, I wouldn't be stuck in a sticky situation now.
now i need someone to make a video benchmarking toothpaste vs other thermal compounds.
How do I know if I need to replace the thermal pads on my ps4 pro. I changed the thermal paste, but not pads. My machine is quiet now, but runs hot. It's clean as a whistle.
I always use Arctic MX-4 it made a huge difference when i put it on my GPU and CPU
JayzTwoCents tested the toothpaste method... it works.It doesn't gives the best results, but it works, you can use it. You SHOULD NOT use it.
IIARROWS yes it works but not for long time
No Zarmaan khan, ketchup is good on fries (not fried CPUs).
I saw a video not long ago where someone compared the default thermal paste with an aftermarket air cooler with that of AS5. The cooler actually performed better with it's own paste rather than a supposed superior alternative.
it's because Arctic Silver 5 is actually a sham and has been mismarketed from the start.
its specs are a complete lie, it is mediocre at best.
sadly, the marketing scheme has worked as everyone buys it thinking it is good.
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So I guess it's good I just plan to stick with stock paste then.
***** included Thermal Paste is fine, it's just not particularly long term usually.
Thanks for info.. like it
i'm buying a thermal paste for my upcoming notcua cpu cooler. will i need specific type of thermal paste? or any thermal paste will just do?
dollar shave is awesome. my executive blade broke and they sent me a replacement free of charge. and they give out free samples you can add to your cart every now and then. +1
I once forgot to remove the plastic sticker on the bottom of the heatsink, surprisingly the CPU temps at idle were just fine, ~30C.
Loved that thumbnail. Informational for novices and humourous for veterans.
now my question is, what is the density like compared to the gaps on the cooler? By this I mean, for the metallic particles to fill those gaps between the chip and cooler, they would have to be finer and smaller than the gaps between the coolor and what you're trying to cool. With how thick thermal paste is, you also have to consider that the particles are covered in paste. Personally, I've had better results with thinner pastes such as EVGA Freeze than Arctic Silver 5 due to the thinner paste being able to flow into the crevices.
While speaking about the thickness of pastes, another factor to consider is the shape of particles and what they're made of. If a paste is full of particles that are polygonal in nature cannot realistically fill gaps very well. While in theory fit together like a puzzle and be able to have zero gaps in between, that doesn't happen. Especially when suspended in a thick solution where they cannot flow into place.
Perhaps it would be interesting to multiple types of thermal compound on an atomic level to see what's really going on. Are they actually filling voids, or created more pockets?
I just use Arctic Silver 5 for the CPU, it's tried and true and is one of the best available but with a long history. For GPU because there's no heat spreader I would go with IC Diamond.
I was hoping he'd include it in the video but, if you happen to read this. How often or when should you replace the thermal paste of your PC? Thanks! :D
i like the ones that come with your cooler
Noticed that Techquickie actually has correct white balance now!
Josh are u an agent of Dennis?
You mean Brandon?
Asians all look the same to me
Just kidding. it was a joke
I had someone custom build my PC, how do I know if it has thermal paste already?
I cant get my AIO of my CPU i used that Thermal adhesive stuff instead HELP!!!!!
I feel like this was made for me. Just installed a new cpu cooler using that same silver thermal paste
'that silver thermal paste'
Ty now i know what this termal paste is
Hell with dollar shave club!! JOIN DOLLAR BEARD CLUB!!! Let it grow just take care of it were all gameers we need that manliness to shine through grow it!!!! pcmasterrace FTW
Ooooo shitting on IC Diamond? That's Linus' favorite!!
With the exception of liquid metal TIM, most of the top stuff is non metallic these days. And Arctic Silver is just kinda meh these days. Not bad, but not great either. And there is the whole pain of curing and later down the road trying the clean it when it's dried up. Thermal Grizzly is the current top dog, but in all honesty all the top stuff is pretty close to each other. Noctua, IC Diamond, Gelid, Arctic MX series, and so on are all very close to each other. The real stand outs are the liquid metal options. Like Cool Laboratories Pro and Ultra. They are usually a fair bit better than any normal paste, but tend to be problematic.
Hahaha. That pun countdown, funny
l love arctic silver 5, that is mt go to for any and all builds. l would love to use cool laboratory liquid ultra, but since it has gallium in it... it can be corrosive to aluminium.
a lot better vid than the result after
Flat vs Round cables as fast as possible
Tittle : How Does Thermal Paste Work?
Thumbnail : ToothPaste
Well Doen TechQuickiee.....
you guys should hire an electrical engineer and electronics technician and have them do in depth videos on components. Im pretty sure i heard luke say that he studied electrical engineering at some point. Just an idea tho, it would be really cool to see you guys do stuff like that
It's really funny to see this after see the video from The Verge :')
Could you in theory live without paste if you where to lap your cpu and heatsink contact to be prefectly flat, and then polish to a fine level? Laping it would cost more than paste do to the cost of something flat enough, fine abrasives and polishes. But could it work, even if it doesn't make sense.
One thing to add: DON'T USE DIAMOND THERMAL COMPOUNDS ON EXPOSED DIES! (Like GPUs)
The dies are made of silicon, and you risk scratching the ever-loving shit out of them, which can be bad news bears.
I lost a good friend to that shit. Never again. Poor 9600XT. You were loved by many, because you were passed around like the loaner you were, and you smelled funny after that one power surge, but you didn't deserve that fate.
The diamonds used in diamond thermal are so small that you would need a very powerful microscope to see them, that is why they are called nano diamonds
just checked the anti seize compound i use as thermal paste it says its is good for heat protection from -40 oC to +1150 oC gess thats why it works so well lol
With the whole disaster Evga made with the 1070 FTW and 1080 FTW, this is certainly helpful, those thermalpads require a new thermalpaste at the moment of putting together the whole card. Thank you so much.
can u tell me how long it will take time to stick
Linus as fast as Possible xD
love the pun!
I didn't find thermal paste at home, but industrial grease worked* perfectly for me.
*Still works perfectly after a month today.
ive been using cooper ease anti-seze compound for car brakes) for years now and has gave better results than any other compound i have used even cool laboratory liquid pro and not just by 1or 2 oC
For real...? What kind of substance is this? It's not braking fluid itself, right? I don't have a clue about car components :/
Is this still paste- or gel-like as opposed to really fluid? If it is really fluid (= of low viscosity), then that might be the reason by itself. But then I'd fear it running or dripping around, possibly corroding stuff. And also evaporation. Yeah, even oil evaporates with time...
But I'm still greatly interested in your experience, that is very much like I use to jerry-rig things all the time xD
My new CPU has just arrived, I will take it tomorrow at the local post office. I don't know yet when will I have time to install it because of my finals, but I try to remember to leave a note here after I replaced the CPU.
boycot gugle hi it is a light weight grease that is full of copper powder used on cars ect for brakes to help them tranfer heat and stop them sticking sqeaking it is a paste but quite a thin paste it doesnt get runny with heat and never drys but is quite conductive so care is required or just use a little tape to portect circuits ive uesd it in my pc for two years now with no problems best part is you dont have to repace every time you move heatsink
i tried copper grease. it worked very well. but after 2 weeks of very cool work , the gpu core shorted out
Legends say if you're late enough, linus will respond.
Believe it or not, I did run a Phenom 9500 machine with no thermal paste whatsoever for several years. I was frustrated with my life and didn't care at all about performance at the time, had to replace a motherboard, but forgot to buy thermal paste. So I said screw it lets just try it this way and see if it works. And it did, idle temperatures were in the 60s and while gaming it went up to low 90s (I think... I only checked once), but it didn't overheat. Then at one point a few years later it started BSODing or just freezing for 4-5 seconds. I got thermal paste for it and temperatures dropped 30 degrees and then it was fine. :D
What about arctic cooling MX-4? It uses carbon nano (what ever that is) and it performs better than as5 with no burn in time.
How about doing a video review + the cons and pro´s , of different cooling pastes in one of your videos.
I my self only have used AC MX5 the last 12+ years, but are now converting to something higher preformance, like Gelid Grizly and if that dosnt work for me then maybe Noctuas NH-01.
But a very indeept pros/cons video could be great from you guys on the main channel(dont make it a quicke video plz).
You mean indepth
I use permatex anti-sieze, best value for performance.
what is the absolute best paste you can buy ?
but why do they make cpu heatsinks concave or convex instead of flat?
stupid stuff that i never knew that i wanted to know so much, wow you guys are really good at slapping people in the face with useful info haha
nice , I used to clean this paste thought it was useless , lucky me it was just a 1.8GHz processor
I've been experienced a cool instant with my tube of Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 week ago when i try to refill the tube with some paste that I just remove from my gpu and isaw the "liquid" trying to go up, like get out of the tube like a liquid magnet would do if you place a neodyme in top of it xD
Should I replace my thermal paste? I use the stuff that came pre-applied with my corsair GTX H110i?
That depends. When did you most recently install that cooler? If it was more than 20 years ago. I recommend checking to ensure it's all still there at a reasonable amount. Otherwise, if it looks like almost half of it has vanished, clean the h110i's cpu plate, and the cpu, and apply fresh paste.
I read somewhere that seaman works well as thermal paste
I accidentally removed the Thermal Paste on the CPU
and it worked for a few Months now it wont boot :|
The Caps (LED) flashes 1 Times that means the CPU is kinda Broken right?
Do a video on different types of heat syncs
You mean sinks?
just a quick thought if thermal paste is just to make contact and spread heat couldn't you use flux gel for the same purpose i mean i may not be the best but just a quick thought
can I use Ic diamond wheb I delid my procesor
Can you use unsented wax or bee wax as themo paste
Is the cooler master thermal paste good?
Thanks for the info The coolest tech show ever 👍
And there is even carbon-based thermal paste like the arctic mx-4, which I have used before
what is goodfor cooling processore
I literally have been applying massive amounts of thermal paste as a part time job, not for cpu's but industrial fridges...