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  • čas přidán 15. 03. 2022
  • Brandon and Dan spend too much time talking about a steak heist before moving on to discuss the first three episodes of Arcane, the hit animated show from League of Legends on Netflix.
    You can join the discussion and vote for your favorite podcast title at r/sanderson: / sanderson
    Can be listened to almost everywhere podcasts can be found.
    Produced by Adam Horne
    Sound engineering and editing by Daniel Thompson
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  • @TravisGafford
    @TravisGafford Před 2 lety +370

    Yes, he finally watched it.

  • @GogetaRG
    @GogetaRG Před 2 lety +119

    They start talking about riot a bit at 19:45 and arcane at 25:30

  • @Vin_Venture896
    @Vin_Venture896 Před 2 lety +220

    Brandon Sanderson reviewing Arcane? Is this a crossover episode of my only interests?

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +2

      If they discuss Breaking Bad with the writers of Arcane as guests then it would encompass all of my core interests. :P

    • @vizar1337
      @vizar1337 Před 2 lety

      Lol I was thinking the same thing

  • @rimurutempest4945
    @rimurutempest4945 Před 2 lety +59

    The really interesting thing about Piltover and Zaun, for me at least, is the fact that in the game’s lore, Zaun actually came first. Zaun was a trading city since it has a channel that allows for easier trading routes, but the people in charge got a bit too greedy and wanted to expand the channel, so they used explosives, which of course went pretty badly and unleashed some gas I believe. So the rich people rebuilty their new part of the city higher and left Zaun below with the poor people who cannot afford to rebuild above. Which is how Piltover got it’s name, since the river is named Pilt and they are over it, hence Piltover.

  • @jordanneal576
    @jordanneal576 Před 2 lety +63

    When I was watching Arcane I did think the style would fit with Mistborn perfectly. After Arcane and after this Kickstarter I wouldn't be surprised if a studio was willing to throw crazy money at an animated Sanderson adaptation.

    • @TriggerBud
      @TriggerBud Před 2 lety +5

      Same! I’ve gotten my entire family to read Mistborn (even my dad, who hasn’t read a fantasy book since… maybe ever lmao) series and everyone’s first thought was this style ish would be the perfect way to showcase Mistborn! (Possibly Stormlight as well, but I haven’t had the chance to read past the first book, so I’m not entirely sure). I’m so glad to see others comment this!

    • @g4fly4ever8
      @g4fly4ever8 Před 2 lety +3

      @@TriggerBud I was in the middle of reading rythem of war when I watched aracane and I totally think it's artstyle can be made to fit stormlight

  • @MateusAntonioBittencourt
    @MateusAntonioBittencourt Před 2 lety +112

    [NO SPOILER] About the animation... Me personally, was most impressed by peoples facial expressions. It's not as flashy as the transporting magic, or the mentioned future fight scene... but it's what made me forget I was watching an animation several times. The facial expressions can be subtle and needed, just an eye flicking and a muscle twitching, or over the top.

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 Před 2 lety +18

      I also love that any freeze frame can look like a gorgeously rendered concept art/digital painting - that's something spiderverse as well as klaus have been pushing towards, using digital paintings not as a guide to creating photorealistic scenes, but as a gorgeous artstyle to aspire to achieve in motion. There have been examples before, but it is rare and deserves to be explored more. But combined with what you say, even more than spiderverse, Arcane has shown that stylized visuals could be used to enhance powerful and subtle emotional moments.

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +10

      I loved watching Silco on my second viewing. Something about how they framed him made it so I was always looking at the scarred side of his face first time through.
      But when I paid attention to the other side of his face I saw how much artistry went into his expression, and how many emotions crosses his face during the series that I missed because of the scar.

  • @angrypirate1094
    @angrypirate1094 Před 2 lety +216

    Sanderson shipping Jayce and Viktor had me laughing so hard.

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +48

      I like how he came up with it completely independent as well. Didn't need to look at forums, he could just tell it was a possibility.

    • @hawkins347
      @hawkins347 Před 2 lety +18

      @@charles3840 This day and age any two men sharing 5 seconds of screentime will inevitably be shipped together regardless of if you give the shippers a reason to or not... and sometimes they will be shipped even if they share 0 screentime 😂

    • @turtleduck5118
      @turtleduck5118 Před 2 lety +33

      Jayce/Viktor fans get shit on constantly but the fact that Sanderson came to that conclusion all by himself is so funny
      it feels pretty vindicating, it means that the way their dynamic is framed in act 1 can allow for that sort of interpretation easily, it’s not a reach
      it’s fine the story doesn’t go that direction but some people get so defensive and angry that the ship just exists

    • @hawkins347
      @hawkins347 Před 2 lety +4

      @@turtleduck5118 I feel they sort of brought it upon themselves really. I'm not denying that there's a ton of homophobia in the fandom, and it's absolutely not ok when that's the sole reason to dislike the pairing, but there are a lot of toxic shippers tied to this pairing in particular. I've seen one too many shippers invading other ships' spaces (particularly MelJay spaces, obviously), antagonising them, mocking the canon relationship, villainising the characters involved etc. It's just kinda frustrating to be an enjoyer of the canon pairing and constantly being forced to defend it instead of being allowed to enjoy what you do in peace. It's a pretty similar situation as with some ships in the Marvel fandom. The shipping wars are a plague upon the fandom imo.

    • @x2433
      @x2433 Před 2 lety +4

      TASTE

  • @iapetes1
    @iapetes1 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm a big league of legends lore nerd
    Idk if you guys read these comments but I can tell you league players are mostly thrilled with the show. There are some changes from the established lore that are minor- like ekko is usually shown to be younger than powder instead of about the same age. But I think the love of the world and the quality of the show is so evident that no one can be mad about changes made.
    Also, there's a ton of world building that's been done for the league world, lots of backgrounds and short stories and art etc. But not much long form storytelling until now. I'd say the piltover in arcane feels very faithful to the world building done before.
    Also the world is not all steampunk... as different locations give you different flavors of fantasy. So IE if the show had been set in bilgewater instead of piltover, it would be like a Pirates of the Caribbean show. Or demacia is high fantasy, shurima is like Egyptian mythology, etc etc etc
    And no there's no race of robot people lol

  • @makcraft
    @makcraft Před 2 lety +18

    I love how Dan keeps smirking, when Brandon keeps theory crafting, when he knows what will happen. 🤣

  • @naastyaaaaaaaaa
    @naastyaaaaaaaaa Před 2 lety +28

    OOh I'm so excited! Brandon and Dan are talking about ARCANE!
    Wait, first I have to sit through 25 minutes of you talking about steak??
    Well.. at least it that gives me the accurate representation about your podcast.. so here's that.

  • @ericwaite5179
    @ericwaite5179 Před 2 lety +52

    Brandon, idk if you know this, but the history of Salt is FASCINATING. It’s like one of the worlds coolest commodities

  • @reillyliner
    @reillyliner Před 2 lety +30

    Dan: A group of thieves has stolen 20 crates of red bull from my local supermarket. I don’t know how these people sleep at night.

  • @anjunakrokus
    @anjunakrokus Před 2 lety +24

    The fact that Arcane has launched CZcams careers based on examining details, storytelling tropes and the many different connections that it makes, should tell anybody how beloved and well done the series is
    The ending alone pushes it to a 10

    • @mullworm
      @mullworm Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah. It's very crazy how much deep analyzing of the show is on yt.

  • @alexitosworld
    @alexitosworld Před 2 lety +17

    Funny they think Runeterra is steampunk when there is so much more than that. I hope future seasons get to show the other parts of the world because there is a region for every kind of fiction you like ^^
    And most of the lore has advanced a lot thanks to the card game too. Is amazing, probably my favorite world after the Cosmere.

  • @BIGTTSNORLAX
    @BIGTTSNORLAX Před 2 lety +12

    The original premise of league (which has been written out) was all about "Summoner's" Rift. The players are magic users who summon champions to fight on the rift, as a means to settle disputes between nations. The summoning spell is what allows champions to fight and kill without anyone actually dying, and the length of respawn timers corresponded to the summoners getting tired during long matches!

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 Před 2 lety +9

    Arcane is one of those shows that its better to go into blind than have any knowledge of it before hand. Makes it that much more tense and gripping IMO.
    I look forward to more discussions of this wonderful show.

  • @no5aint
    @no5aint Před 2 lety +11

    Came for Arcane, stayed for the steaks.

  • @mhreinhardt
    @mhreinhardt Před 2 lety +10

    The fact that Dan had a glowing green eyeball staring at him while he was sleeping throughout his college years really explains a lot.

  • @urigatt6815
    @urigatt6815 Před 2 lety +43

    28:00 mins Joke's on you Dan! I skipped to the first mention of Arcane! muhahaha

  • @cbpd89
    @cbpd89 Před 2 lety +47

    Y'all have gotten me interested in food heists, so I went down a Google rabbit hole. I found a saffron heist from a few years ago. Since saffron is worth more than its weight in gold, this one made off with 22lbs and it was worth a bonkers amount of money. Mid six figures, if I remember correctly.

    • @danwells9305
      @danwells9305 Před 2 lety +2

      Food heists are the single greatest category of news stories.

  • @Trencaportes21
    @Trencaportes21 Před 2 lety +10

    Arcane had 2 "showrunners" one of them is literally the one who directed the music videos the production company did for Riot before, that's why the music fits so well into everything

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero Před 2 lety +27

    Zaun is across the river from Piltover. It is like Budapest, where Buda and Pest and separated by the river.
    The thing is that in Zaun there are regions of huge cracks of the Earth called The Fissures, but that is not the whole of Zaun. That is why Silco talks about "uniting not only The Lanes. The nation of Zaun".
    At least that is my understanding.

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +3

      tiny spoilers for ep 4 to 5:
      The more confusing bit is when a character parkours down into Zaun in episode 4 or 5. They look like they go from Piltover down into Zaun without crossing any bridge.

    • @Amaror2
      @Amaror2 Před 2 lety

      @@charles3840 Zaun is both the part of the city on the other side of the bridge and the part sunken in the ravines. So, yes, it is possible to just parkour down from piltover into zaun.

  • @Jay-kx4jf
    @Jay-kx4jf Před 2 lety +4

    yesss, Brandon sees the Jayce-Viktor ship

  • @jonasknorr2058
    @jonasknorr2058 Před 2 lety +7

    "There's no one willing to give me 10 million per episode to make a Cosmere animation"
    Well he could make three episodes now ^^

  • @x2433
    @x2433 Před 2 lety +16

    Of COURSE brandon picked up on all of the jayvik subtext............ that was an unbelievably funny bit, but he's right!!! Even the production team had some Opinions on what went unspoken between these two. Now if only Riot listened and gave us something like leona/diana....

  • @apollosungod6673
    @apollosungod6673 Před 2 lety +6

    Haha holy shit the Renata Glasc thing is super fascinating and I didn't know Riot offered Sanderson to make a character for their game too...

  • @niteglys
    @niteglys Před 2 lety +58

    Episode 3 of Arcane reminded me of Sanderson when he talked about making fight scenes exciting by counting something (Vander's cuffs) in his lectures

    • @rvantong
      @rvantong Před 2 lety +1

      What do you mean, counting something?

    • @laurentbercot3465
      @laurentbercot3465 Před 2 lety +16

      @@rvantong Vi is holding the Silco team on the bridge while Mylo is freeing Vander. Mylo pops the screws one by one, that's the count - and he needs to be done with them all before Vi gets overwhelmed. The progression in the fight isn't how many thugs Vi puts down, it's how many screws Mylo pops.

    • @rvantong
      @rvantong Před 2 lety +2

      @@laurentbercot3465 Thanks. Do you know in which lecture Brandon talks about this?

  • @ramzes2624
    @ramzes2624 Před 2 lety +85

    42:03 Even Brandon thought Jayce and Viktor would be a couple. Lol

    • @laurentbercot3465
      @laurentbercot3465 Před 2 lety +10

      To be fair, Riot baited us all into this one, and I believe it was on purpose. I assume they chose to nope out of it (in heartbreaking fashion, with Jayce having straight sex right when Viktor gets sick) because *two* gay romances would have been too much, I guess.

    • @Keyraknightley
      @Keyraknightley Před 2 lety +2

      Wait. They werent ? Though his love scenes happened out of the screen

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety

      I'm hoping the other probable romance is not a fake out. It's still a nasty trope where people are really "just buds" and the writers lead people on, especially the LGBT viewership.

    • @Keyraknightley
      @Keyraknightley Před 2 lety

      @@charles3840 nope, you can't blame in on em that we don't have the same view of love as them. Kinda like, now you can't show brotherhood or bromance because it is taken as LGBT view? Worse, while would be bad seeing that person's need to discover what they like as the way goes.

    • @laurentbercot3465
      @laurentbercot3465 Před 2 lety +1

      @@charles3840 Everyone is hoping for that - it's the main question for season 2, honestly. And unfortunately, the answer depends on how much Riot wants Arcane to be broadcast in more conservative parts of the world - China, in particular. It would be nice if they had the cojones to make the main romance as explicit as they made the secondary one.
      (In my headcanon, Jayce is bi, and him and Viktor *were* indeed a couple - Jayce just fell for Mel's charm and cunning, both of which she definitely has aplenty. This makes the scene more tragic, it happening just when Viktor needs him the most.)

  • @Marco_Onyxheart
    @Marco_Onyxheart Před 2 lety +39

    I've accidentally done steaks well-done before, and actually made them good. But we're talking slow roast barbecue, which makes them very tender. Well-done steak isn't usually tender.

  • @MrRys
    @MrRys Před 2 lety +8

    Dan said quite a few spoilers for someone who didn't want to spoil anything

  • @brianlinden3042
    @brianlinden3042 Před 2 lety +12

    I mean, who's to say that Brandon doesn't ALREADY have a salt-based magic system? The people on Taldain may believe Sand Mastery uses water, but for all we know the dehydration might come from salt being burned up, instead.

  • @Musicon14
    @Musicon14 Před 2 lety +15

    As someone who is deep enough in the League of Legends fandom, I can definitely say that Arcane was a roaring success. It hit all of the notes that we wanted from a 9 episode series and it showed the lore that we cared about the characters involved. It expands on different threads that are alluded to in the game, but not really fleshed out anywhere else. More people actually appreciate the show more than the game now, in addition to pulling in newer fans. We are highly anticipating more media like Arcane in the future.

  • @proteuswest1084
    @proteuswest1084 Před 2 lety +4

    As a longtime aficionado of Riot Games, both their games and their media (short form cinematics, music videos, and live shows at eSports events), I didn’t have huge expectations for Arcane, which is weird because I pretty much have liked almost everything they’ve done. However, I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. They were very good at telling the character stories and getting the characters to a point where they’re recognizable as the heroes you play in the game, and they did a good job building out the settings that only existed in lore or in short videos. I don’t know many people who are fans of League of Legends who disliked Arcane at all, and a lot of what I’ve seen from that group is very positive, and that is saying something since the League of Legends community is notoriously difficult to please.

  • @naastyaaaaaaaaa
    @naastyaaaaaaaaa Před 2 lety +30

    Brandon Sanderson discussing ARCANE?
    Damn.. Didn't expect it.

  • @TheDiabeticGameMaster
    @TheDiabeticGameMaster Před 2 lety +3

    Yes, yes! Omg! You are literally the first people I have heard talk about this! The thumbnails we're so spoilers! I assume they were autogenerated but man. I'd get to the end of the episode and, before I could skip it, is be confronted with a still from the right scene which was the dramatic climax to the cliffhanger from the episode I just watched. It was super annoying!

  • @joshuafranckum7707
    @joshuafranckum7707 Před 2 lety +21

    Brandon should just do another fundraiser, he’s already raised the budget of the first 3 episodes of Arcane with the Kickstarter lol

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +3

      I could see a storm light book fitting into about nine episodes, if they had the same amount of time to storyboard the season.

    • @august4471
      @august4471 Před 2 lety +4

      @@charles3840 mm 9 episodes wouldnt be enough, probably 13, or maybe 10 of 1 hour.
      Lets take SAO Alicization for example: ~750k words for 47 episodes of 20 mins and still cut stuff.
      Stormlight books are 380k-450k, this equals to 12-14 episodes of 40 mins (Mistborn era 1 would be 6-8 episodes), or a little more if they try to include as much content as possible.
      Arcane quality and style would be FANTASTIC, but it is very unlikely to keep it up for several years/seasons. Avatar The Legend of Korra, or Voltron: The Legendary Defender quality is also great and more achievable

    • @francesccampos1343
      @francesccampos1343 Před 2 lety +3

      I would fund 100% for them to make Mistborn era 1 or Stormlight, specially the first one which is closer in looks to Zaun would be gorgeous.

    • @rallelevin6102
      @rallelevin6102 Před 2 lety +2

      @@august4471 i certainly wouldn't exactly be disappointed if studio Mir was to animate stormlight, but if Ufotable did it... Hehe.
      Making Ufotable agree into producing anything would be a monumental task though, even if their animation is cheap. They're probably being bombarded by thousands of requests on a daily basis and most likely wouldn't care about a random western book author. Sad life.

    • @august4471
      @august4471 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rallelevin6102 agreed, it could be done if the task is divided by two or more studios

  • @vladimirkvasnick
    @vladimirkvasnick Před 2 lety +15

    On the topic of "Robot man" fairly certain he mentions that his 'race' no longer exists as a consequence of magic gone wrong.

  • @MrKenilles
    @MrKenilles Před 2 lety +10

    COWBOY BEBOP EIN SHIRT! You are gonna carry that weight Brandon...

  • @maximeteppe7627
    @maximeteppe7627 Před 2 lety +4

    About champions vs original characters, as another person going in blind regarding the lore, I was truly surprised that a number of prominent characters, or just flashy designs, weren't actuaklly champions from the game, which shows that they had amazing artists and tons of creative freedom, cause a bunch of them are WILD (notably a certain gangster with a great love for bling). And on top of that, they managed to give cohesion to a bunch of designs that were originally very archetypal and disparate.
    Regarding the visual style, it is really a visual language that is indeed somewhere between borderlands, dishonored 1, and spiderman into the spiderverse, so while this style doesn't come out of nowhere, those are all still fairly unique designs and have never been used for a series before. I mean you gets similar stuff in a few episodes of love death and robots, in spiderverse, and that's it. I really hope that leads production companies to up their game when it comes to animation, cause some parts of invincible were rough to look at, and there are countless artists who are not given the opportunity to show their best work.

  • @levidobbin5654
    @levidobbin5654 Před 2 lety +4

    I worked on a construction site with a certain roofer at one point who would ALWAYS have steaks, or ribs, as his lunch. We're talking the big 2" thick cuts, $50 steaks. When we finally asked him how he always ate so well, with the cost of steak being what it is, he told us basically, his uncle always had steaks if we wanted any. $5 a steak. When we asked him how that could be, he told us that his uncle would never say.
    So yes, there are fences for shoplifted meat products right now in Southern Ontario Canada.

  • @LMJeffJones
    @LMJeffJones Před 2 lety +12

    FINALLY TALKING ABOUT ARCANE?!
    GUYS ITS HAPPENING

  • @tanyam928
    @tanyam928 Před 2 lety +3

    I loved Arcane! I didn't realize the budget was so high. The episodes are about twice as long as a typical anime, but still the best anime are around $150k per episode so way more per minute. And Demon Slayer, Attack on Titan, Jujutsu Kaisen look amazing on those budgets. If Stormlight or Mistborn was on that level it would be good, doesn't have to be millions per episode. Arcane was just honored at the Annie Awards for animation. They got many of the TV category awards including best TV/media -general audience, best fx, character design, direction, production design, storyboarding, voice acting (voice of Jinx), and writing. Funny thing, I just looked at who won at Critics Choice Awards and Arcane wasn't even nominated... So Marvel's 'What If?' won. It will be interesting to hear Brandon's thoughts after he finishes all of the first season

    • @mullworm
      @mullworm Před 2 lety +2

      One of the reasons that makes it so expansive (or at same level as Hollywood studios) is, that they made real 24 FPS handdrawn (besides the common CGI, the producing of music with stars and whole orchestras, voice acting with stars, exceptional sound editing/sound effects [very good 5.1 with surround effects] etc.). All other animes do have many passages with stills (only the mouth or the camera is moving), stuttering 10 FPS to reduce the costs. Even Spiderverse does have such "low cost" passages.
      Only full 3D animation does have a constantly high frame rate.

    • @tanyam928
      @tanyam928 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mullwormyeah Arcane is a whole new level of animation on TV quality... I am thinking if they did Cosmere animated, it would be more like the Castlevania series. Which I think is also very good, and was estimated to be 200-400k per episode

  • @74gould
    @74gould Před 2 lety +13

    I can’t wait to hear his thoughts on the entire season. :) SUCH a tremendous show!!

  • @gabinooodle5308
    @gabinooodle5308 Před 2 lety +23

    BRANDON THE JAYCE AND VIKTOR SHIPPER WE LOVE TO SEE IT

  • @taneelbrightblade6622
    @taneelbrightblade6622 Před 2 lety +2

    "We're going to put Arcane in the title so people will sit through 25 minutes of us talking about steak" I feel called out

  • @loganm7771
    @loganm7771 Před 2 lety +13

    I need this popcorn magic system, and the salt one in the same book!

  • @kath4240
    @kath4240 Před 2 lety +35

    I just need Brandon to know that while Jayce and Viktor might not be a couple, that doesn't stop us from shipping them and he is welcome to join us.

  • @MistbornTaylor
    @MistbornTaylor Před 2 lety +5

    I am excited for them to talk about the next acts mostly because it'll be really funny if Brandon can't remember Vi's name.

  • @ericfrancis7816
    @ericfrancis7816 Před 2 lety +11

    Woohoo! Brandon, I'm glad you liked the first three episodes and look forward to hearing your take on the rest. And I highly, HIGHLY encourage both you and Dan to check out the CZcams channel by Schnee, who does tremendously insightful breakdowns of all manner of elements in the show -- story, characters, plot, action, etc.

  • @mytthor999
    @mytthor999 Před 2 lety +4

    Lol for someone who is phenomenal at names in his stories it's funny to see Brandon having no idea who to call who or who to call what in Arcane XD.

  • @charles3840
    @charles3840 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved this discussion and I am really looking forward to them discussing the next couple of episodes.

  • @xxkillslayer4457
    @xxkillslayer4457 Před 2 lety +14

    it's so interesting to see people coming to Arcane fresh and calling League a "steampunk world." It's like... yes, it is, but it's also every other fantasy genre. Arcane is focused in tightly on the Steampunk area but that's one of like 15 very distinct settings within the world. It'll be really interesting to see how much they choose to introduce over the course of more seasons or separate shows/movies/whatever

  • @rimurutempest4945
    @rimurutempest4945 Před 2 lety +3

    God imagine a Brandon Sanderson created champ, like goddamn I’d main them immediately

  • @samuelkemp4557
    @samuelkemp4557 Před 2 lety +2

    FINALLY. I've been waiting for you to watch it

  • @Heretix1990
    @Heretix1990 Před 2 lety +5

    25:22 for Arcane talk

  • @shawnrobertson5481
    @shawnrobertson5481 Před 2 lety +3

    My eyes are so attracted to movement I find myself spending 40 minutes watching Brandon write his signature and now, due to pareidolia, it will forever be a ninja fish...

    • @katiewright3309
      @katiewright3309 Před 2 lety +1

      Well, I learned a new word today. I did not know there was a name for that.

  • @markofgaming8111
    @markofgaming8111 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm reading Final Empire for the first time (also my first Sanderson novel), and I keep picturing Vin like Vi.

  • @rokentom3926
    @rokentom3926 Před 2 lety +11

    Interestingly lots of research has shown that expensive steaks are more enjoyable and taste better in part because of the comparatively high price. Resolution of cognitive dissonance likely at play among other psychological mechanisms

  • @AppleBaron
    @AppleBaron Před 2 lety +18

    48:25 Well, that's a stretch. League has a lot of worldbuilding, that you can explore outside of the game (cinematics, comics, biographys, stories etc.). Also, Arcane universe technically isn't even canon, it's definitely more of MCU approach, than what GoT did.

    • @francesccampos1343
      @francesccampos1343 Před 2 lety +7

      Completely agree, however it's fair to say that the main characters of Arcane's story had quite old lore compared to many of the other regions or new characters so they were pretty bland and unidimensional in the original lore. They did an awesome job changing it and at the same time respecting the base of it.

    • @serbianweatherman2385
      @serbianweatherman2385 Před 2 lety +4

      I think dan himself has an out with the fact that he specified GAME prior, and if you just count the game and not side stuff yeah i think i agree

  • @TOGS355
    @TOGS355 Před 2 lety +7

    Dan: "I won't give you spoliers"
    *proceeds to spoil the shit out of the show*

    • @Resticon
      @Resticon Před 2 lety

      Uh...not even close. Briefly touched on episode 7 fight animation but spoiled absolutely nothing about the plot of those episodes. Even his confirmation of Brandon's guesses was like you got a good view of things while being wrong about so many key things. He confirmed certain characters and hinted at relationships with people who haven't shown up but not who they are with. If Brandon manages to pick the C/V relationship out of that mention of 2 characters he's seen are a thing then I'd be damn impressed. All he really did was confirm who was and wasn't a character in the game...something any LoL player would know going in and discussed the events of 1-3 and the animation and writing. Brandon left a wide open invitation for him to mention that 4 is mostly about J/V when Brandon was discussing how much he liked the magic side story. He chose not to spoil anything there. At the moment, Brandon still thinks V grows up to be C from the credits. Not even sure it is possible to spoil Arcane because the VA, music, animation and writing is so top-notch. There is always more to see on rewatch, parallels that are only noticed later, and several scenes still hit so hard even knowing they are coming and having seen them. Giving any detail about something is not the same as spoiling it. If it were, back covers of books and dust jackets would have spoiled virtually every book ever written.

  • @aneonfoxtribute
    @aneonfoxtribute Před 2 lety +3

    Magic man who saved Jayce is not confirmed to be a character from the game. There are theories who that is but there is nothing definitive

  • @Jay-kx4jf
    @Jay-kx4jf Před 2 lety +2

    They were released in three episode batches. Each being called an "act" so act 1 was ep 1-3 and there's act 2 and act 3

  • @tineye5100
    @tineye5100 Před 2 lety +4

    I hope for a Demacia season with Lux and Garen.

  • @channelnamepending8329
    @channelnamepending8329 Před 2 lety +2

    I just finished mr monster this morning. I was so disturbed, but I couldn't stop reading.

  • @jauxro
    @jauxro Před 2 lety +1

    42:00 it's my understanding that they never date or marry but DO get extremely divorced

  • @Patrick-rl1ku
    @Patrick-rl1ku Před 2 lety +5

    The biggest reason I got hooked on Arcane was the animation style. So cool and different!

  • @mkbthekid2041
    @mkbthekid2041 Před 2 lety +5

    I feel like Brandon’s series are more animation oriented with the physics defying attacks. But live action could work.

    • @Resticon
      @Resticon Před 2 lety

      Maybe but live action might be cheaper and would definitely reach a larger audience. Even with Arcane being a global success and winning 9 Annie's, there are still a ton of people who will simply never watch it because it's animated. Barely managed to get my Dad to watch it and he's the only one in my family who even gave it a shot (and not even a fair one at that since he went in with a lot of biases against it). As long as the story/characters are maintained and the CGI is closer to Dune than Green Lantern, live action would work great.

    • @mkbthekid2041
      @mkbthekid2041 Před 2 lety +1

      I feel like breaking that mold is why more people should invest in animated adaptions

    • @onepresence9460
      @onepresence9460 Před 2 lety

      @@Resticon Mistborn live action? maybe it could work (Though i still prefer it was animated). The Stormlight Archive live action? nah, i don't think it would work very well.

  • @secondtoinfinity1944
    @secondtoinfinity1944 Před 2 lety +3

    43:28
    It's midgar and the slums, although the "Midgar" here is technically a series of plates.

  • @teradul2480
    @teradul2480 Před 2 lety +1

    There is actually a podcast about animation with one of the people that spearheaded the animation in which he says that the budget itself wasn't that much higher than any other piece of animation, but that the whole studio, including the bosses, were animators first and foremost and knew how to make the most out of the budget they had (and also, most likely the 6 years in the making helped)

  • @fiachnaodonnell7895
    @fiachnaodonnell7895 Před 2 lety +7

    Oho! Now if we could JUST get him to squeeze in Avatar someday we could all die happily ever after!

  • @TheDiabeticGameMaster
    @TheDiabeticGameMaster Před 2 lety +2

    Actually, from what I understand they are turning Silco into a character in the games so they might actually bring other people into the games as well

  • @gamesnstuff657
    @gamesnstuff657 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm a Big DOTA 2 fan, and have nothing but contempt for League of Legends after playing it for a couple of years and losing faith in Riot's game developing ability. Arcane is the best animated show I have seen since Avatar. Riot knocked it out of the park. Even an embittered DOTA 2 fan can recognize and enjoy Arcane's greatness.

  • @harrywis2795
    @harrywis2795 Před 2 lety +2

    Is Brandon wearing a Cowboy Bebop top??? Love that

  • @JZef
    @JZef Před 2 lety +21

    yeah... you should totally watch Avatar. 4 seasons of 20 episodes of 20 mins each vs 1 season (so far) of 9 episodes of 1 hour each. The difference isn't as big as you're making it

    • @ramzes2624
      @ramzes2624 Před 2 lety +10

      ATLA is 3 seasons, not 4. Someone tell him

  • @adityasuryavanshi3687
    @adityasuryavanshi3687 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow, Renata is a clone? I never knew. Will give the cyberpunk novel a shot though.

    • @FrostSylph
      @FrostSylph Před 2 lety

      The first one they were referring to was Bluescreen.

  • @john80944
    @john80944 Před 2 lety +1

    Tbh, the steak tangents are pretty good, and I didn't even notice that this is an Arcane episode.

  • @francesccampos1343
    @francesccampos1343 Před 2 lety +5

    Loved the talk, but Brandon you can't even realise how big and diverse in themes LoL lore is, it is like the a whole cosmere in the same world, Demacia, Noxus, Bilgewater, Shurima, The Shadow Lands, Mount Targon, Freljord, Ionia all those regions are vastly different with each other and have deep and interesting stories around the characters.

  • @moonlight293
    @moonlight293 Před 2 lety +1

    Brandon I was absolutely the same with thinking those two were a couple haha

  • @theonlysinoda
    @theonlysinoda Před rokem

    Him talking about dbd makes me love these humans

  • @reillyliner
    @reillyliner Před 2 lety +1

    It’s wrong, but actually surprisingly easy to steal and get away. These people who basically stare at the camera and are stealing from a place that knows them … it’s nuts

  • @TheAndroidNextDoor
    @TheAndroidNextDoor Před 2 lety +1

    In regards to the Renata League of Legends thing, you guys should look into the weird coincidences around Alistair Reynold's Revelation Space series and Bioware's Mass Effect. There are enough similarities in the lore of both and even some names of locations/organizations shared that lead me to think that someone at Bioware definitely read the series when developing the lore for Mass Effect.

  • @althechicken9597
    @althechicken9597 Před 2 lety +1

    I can realize that some people like and prefer very cooked meat. I can accept that.
    I can not stop calling your meat a hockey puck/lump o' coal/rock or any other potentially hard/burnt/ dark thing. Especially if I cook it.

  • @johanliebert8544
    @johanliebert8544 Před 2 lety +4

    Wait, has Brandon seen Attack on Titan?? It would be awesome to have him analyse "magic system" of AoT

  • @shaniamibar5459
    @shaniamibar5459 Před 2 lety

    glad to hear I'm not the only one who thought Jayce and Viktor would get together after the time skip

  • @judyimlay3072
    @judyimlay3072 Před 2 lety +3

    Best steaks are when you are invited to a Cattlemen's Association steak fry. They have raised the beef and all have their own secret spices/sauces that they take to their graves.

  • @Cosmere_es
    @Cosmere_es Před 2 lety +2

    By the way, talking about how godd the music in Arcane is, have you watched Enemy's videoclip?

  • @LyonexTV
    @LyonexTV Před 2 lety +3

    I can't believe we live in the timeline where Brandon did NOT create a League champion. Is it too late T T

  • @Blixthand
    @Blixthand Před 2 lety

    I've been cautious about Arcane since I know literally nothing about LOL and isn't interested in the game as a game (tried it once and realized imminently it wasn't for me), but hearing how much Brandon enjoyed it without knowing much about the game sold me on it. I'll at least give it a chance.

  • @letsdancetojoydiv
    @letsdancetojoydiv Před 2 lety

    The 5 minutes straight of steak talk has me so hungry right now

  • @MrJethroha
    @MrJethroha Před 2 lety +5

    "I kept waiting for the prologue to be over" hmmmmm

  • @NRCarrillo
    @NRCarrillo Před 2 lety +1

    Dan denying that a race of robot people exist had me upset and lobbying on behalf of Blitzcrank and Oriana. 👿

  • @MaryaHach
    @MaryaHach Před 2 lety +26

    Wait a minute. The issue Dan discusses from 19:42 actually sounds pretty serious. And the lawyers say this isn't plagiarism? I wonder now, what does it take for it to be considered plagiarism?

    • @charles3840
      @charles3840 Před 2 lety +11

      With character concepts, it's difficult to tell. The line gets really blurry, especially when it crosses mediums in this case.

    • @tktvr9703
      @tktvr9703 Před 2 lety +3

      If I remember Correctly HotS also released a character who I believe has a character named Qhira supposedly around the same time Riot Released Qiyana both start with Q and come from a new Civilization and both seem to be assassins

    • @rallelevin6102
      @rallelevin6102 Před 2 lety +4

      Nah, unless you're a *huge* company that's bullying small creators, you can't do anything about people having similar characters, even if they're almost direct copies. Just look at marvel and DC.

    • @PetrSojnek
      @PetrSojnek Před 2 lety +1

      I mean you can try to sue them... but I'm not sure it's actually worth the trouble even if you win (which definitely is not a given). Apart from name, which is really werid coincidence, you could probably find quite a few characters elsewhere with similar properties, too. It can still be a paralel design, who knows.

    • @Keyraknightley
      @Keyraknightley Před 2 lety +2

      It's kinda like a legal vacuum . Because as an book autor what you registered is your book, as the characters and history as a whole. While registering a character is something different. So he might take it to the court but I'll be a waste of time because this kinda situations aren't legislated yet

  • @vamsiampolu8438
    @vamsiampolu8438 Před 2 lety +2

    The second heist was a misteak. John Cleaver is the camera in Fortnite i guess.
    Brandon could do a Kickstarter per episode and get the funding that way.

  • @zenthepoet.
    @zenthepoet. Před 2 lety +5

    Adoooonalsiiiiium

  • @groceryliszt3346
    @groceryliszt3346 Před 2 lety +2

    42:41
    "You're hot, cupcake."

  • @spectreharlequin
    @spectreharlequin Před 2 lety +2

    I believe the charred on the outside style of cooking steak is called a Pittsburgh. Good steakhouses will let you ask for the the steak to be cooked Pittsburgh and rare on the inside.

  • @d.lachlandickson8945
    @d.lachlandickson8945 Před 2 lety +1

    Pretty sure it has been mentioned. A large amount of heisted food goes into hotels or back into service industry.

  • @Stomaia87
    @Stomaia87 Před 2 lety +1

    You asked about fans and the lore and canonicity. The thing is LoL lore is a bit of a mess. It's been completely overhauled at least once and a lot of lore is "canon but not really." For instance, there was a big lore event last year and (no doubt in part to it being poorly received) we were told that the outline, basically, was canon, but the majority of what happened in the event wasn't canon. And this was also because 4ish games were all telling the story their own way and they didn't all match up really. Just a mess. Add to that fact that lore is told in a bunch of different ways. Short stories, character bios, cinematics, comics, tv shows, video games of different styles and genres and you get the idea. For goodness sake, even the skins are technically canon just Alternate Universe style.
    So the fact that Arcane is technically not canon and telling its own story isn't a problem. Heck, if it had tried to rigidly adhere to established lore (which has also changed a ton since they apparently started writing the show) it would have not been nearly as good. Most fans actually want the Arcane lore to replace the established lore because it's honestly better.
    The really interesting thing will be with the upcoming MMO Riot is making. Making changes to LoL the moba's lore is hard. You have to make new skins, you have to change the bios and stories in all their respective places. You have to bring back in the voice actors to change lines.
    But the MMO gets a fresh start. So we're going to get to see what Riot has decided is prime canon. Do they stick with what is technically the story of Piltover and Zaun even though an absolute ton of people will be going in to the game hoping to see stuff from Arcane, or do they make Arcane the new canon (or just claim the MMO is it's on canon independent of the moba. Which is independent of the TCG...and both are distinct from the phone version...and you get the idea.
    So yeah, most fans are A-OK with Arcane from a lore standpoint in part because of how much of an unholy mess LoL lore is already.

  • @karalynzemene875
    @karalynzemene875 Před 2 lety +1

    Other authors: wine tasting.
    BYU authors: popcorn tasting.

  • @yenshuliao1524
    @yenshuliao1524 Před 2 lety +5

    I think Arcane is an even better experience/show for people unfamiliar with the LoL franchise and have no idea who's unkill-able and who is. ... now I want to re-watch that show!
    Midgar and Section # :D - they think so lowly of the lower people their living areas don't even get names, just lot numbers ...