Buying a 4 in 1 skidsteer bucket

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  • Buying and testing a new Titan 4 in 1 multipurpose skid steer bucket on a bobcat 743 skid steer and a 864 skid steer.
    0:00 explaining why I wanted a new bucket for my bobcat 743 skid steer
    4:30 ordering bucket
    5:29 fixing hose on 743 skid steer
    10:49 using 4in1 bucket for first time on 743 skid steer
    19:53 using bucket on 864 skid steer
    32:58 4in1 vs grapple bucket
    Buy 4in1 bucket: amzn.to/2J6hs5h
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  • @kenh9508
    @kenh9508 Před 4 lety +41

    Thanks for the demo. You summed it up perfect with "it can do a lot of things, but none very good" regardless of the machine size, it is what it is.

  • @alco424
    @alco424 Před 5 lety +21

    The Bobcat dealer actually told me not to bother replacing steel lines with new steel lines. They advised to have full hoses made up as it would be less expensive, easier to change and last just as long.

    • @J.D.Shelnutt
      @J.D.Shelnutt Před 2 lety

      Yea when you buy one its good to lift the cab and check the condition or make sure it wasn’t used for loading chicken litter, if it builds up and stays wet under there it can eat away at the metal over time. Being that short it may not matter but if hoses would feel spongier than hard lines.

  • @MacKarakal18
    @MacKarakal18 Před 5 lety +2

    For someone like me that has never driven a bobcat, the different POV angles you do are gold! Amazing job you have. 👍

  • @sparsparkster
    @sparsparkster Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you for an excellent review on the four and one bucket. I wasn't planning on getting one but if I ever think about it I'll remember you and how you saved me some aggravation and money.
    I really enjoy your videos. You don't hide very much like a lot of other video editing. We can all see the difficulty and how it really isn't as easy as it looks in some of those other videos. Thank you!

  • @richsellskc
    @richsellskc Před 6 lety +3

    You put your heart and soul into this challenge.
    We love challenge.
    You're a good young man, American. Why?
    You love to hustle.
    That is what we are made of.

  • @TomTremayne
    @TomTremayne Před 5 lety +6

    This guy doesn't need machines; he is one himself! Always working, real passionate, mega-efficient & totally driven! I don't know what it is about his videos but they're just so watchable; it's like he's the only guy in a America still focused on doing good work amongst all the BS! He doesn't really look at the camera much but in this video I tried to look at his face, see if I could see what makes him tick. I couldn't!

  • @steveshiriaev5750
    @steveshiriaev5750 Před 2 lety +2

    I have a 1994 863 and Also the large buckets. To deal with tipping issue, I added brackets on both sides in back to hold counter weights from old weight system. Helped out a lot with tipping! These machines can handle a lot of weight if properly weighted.

  • @keithraines298
    @keithraines298 Před 5 lety +6

    I have flared steel tube by heating with a rosebud and used a flare tool for copper water pipe. It worked and has been on machine for five years.

  • @lakesideranch
    @lakesideranch Před 6 lety +45

    Fantastic video Andrew,
    Well edited with some great points about the bucket you selected and the pros and cons of the design.
    I have a CAT 226 and 252B skidsteer and was considering the same bucket purchase. I appreciate your expert advice and your professional opinion of the unit operated on both of your Bobcats.
    2 thumbs up from here on the quality of your video work, your site work, and your narratives of all the jobs you get involved in.
    IMHO you are a talented, true professional and are a very good operator of all your various machines.
    I've enjoyed numerous hours watching your videos over the years and you continue to amaze with some of your methods and always do a top shelf job with the tree work, excavation and finish grading. Be safe out there !!

  • @Tugnar
    @Tugnar Před 6 lety +4

    Just a layman, but learning alot from your videos! Thank you for taking your time to share your wisdom.

  • @luish777
    @luish777 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for taking the time with the pros and cons of these machines you got lot of patients., good job love other videos

  • @maraudermitchelli
    @maraudermitchelli Před 6 lety

    I Spent a month researching 4n1 buckets to get a medium duty light enough for my compact tractor, I purchased a construction attachments cmp 4n1 bucket 610 lbs 66” wide. It works great. I like your work thank you for sharing.

  • @aldimore
    @aldimore Před 6 lety +197

    LOL, looks like a 5 in one would be better. The extra function being a bigger bobcat :)

  • @bobvincent4841
    @bobvincent4841 Před 5 lety +5

    Excellent and informative video Andrew! Definitely food for thought. A bucket like that would be better on the front loader of a backhoe because it would be visible to doze with by the operator and would increase the function of an already limited machine. I've seen them on old case backhoes and the clam shell has a spike tooth on each outside side edge, front and back, that helps grab logs etc. Thank you again for the work that went in to making your video.

  • @jamescampi50
    @jamescampi50 Před 5 lety +2

    I have owned several bobcats over the years. The buckets generally are the same width as the outside width of the wheels. Anything larger in bucket size creates balance issues, making the machine tippy when bucket is loaded. Also the hydraulic pumps are sized to the machine and certain implements will not operate properly unless pump is compatible. The first bucket was for light materials, i.e. mulch, maybe snow and thats it. It will work on the 743 for those materials and not cause balance problems. The 4/1 is what it is. The pump on the 743 probably did not have high enough psi. I think if you check the pump ratings on your two bobcats this will be why it works on one and not the other.

  • @smacfe
    @smacfe Před 4 lety +1

    You are right about the grapple buckets. They are the most useful tools and mine is on the skid steer at least 70% of the time. I did weld/bolt a dozer blade across the bottom of the leading edge to keep from bending when I am digging out heavy roots and big rocks. Can’t thank you enough for all these fabulous videos.

  • @bobv4827
    @bobv4827 Před 5 lety +229

    Hey check your hydro oil level, most attachments ship with no oil in them, and when you hook it up for the first time it sucks all your oil and runs it low

    • @ClinttheGreat
      @ClinttheGreat Před 3 lety

      Definitely sounds like it's low on hydro oil - those pumps don't otherwise squeal like that. Ask me how I know, lol.

  • @LRSS2455
    @LRSS2455 Před 6 lety +104

    That smaller machine needs a 5' bucket. That 6' bucket is entirely too big for the machine.I've always used the clam shell buckets for loading gravel and sand, as you've found out it doesn't work too well for wet dirt. Maybe it's time for a bigger machine for the bucket? LOL

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Před rokem

      Check your Hydraulic pressures.

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Před rokem

      Could also have bad cylinders, that could be option. Call manufacturers. About your issues.

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Před rokem

      Also Andrew recommended checking your quick change Couplers, they can restrict flow to your Hydraulic Cylinders. Easy try direct strait lines with out quick change system.

  • @artfordlowery490
    @artfordlowery490 Před 5 lety

    ANDREW your definitely talented young man, and amazing WATCHING your SKILLS and how well you able to improvise and make SURE that it'll work, thanks for sharing your thoughts and talents and SKILLS

  • @bat__bat
    @bat__bat Před rokem +1

    16:30 awesome display of how heavy this stuff is and how quickly gravity can get out of control. Really great video as usual 😎 👍

  • @thegit8698
    @thegit8698 Před 6 lety +4

    It's the same with many tools that do multiple jobs they don't do everything well, there is probably a way that you could improve that bucket yourself once you get to know it better, I've seen what you can do in your videos and your a very resourceful guy

  • @cambobby2011
    @cambobby2011 Před 5 lety +5

    26:01...My heart stopped! Scarry! Love all the info for DIY! Keep them comming. Tks.

  • @reichgbg
    @reichgbg Před 6 lety +2

    You're a very humble and kind man, not give the company any hard time deliver this bucket. If they where descent, they will refund you instantly without any further discussion. Love your vids! :)

  • @Tom-fz6pe
    @Tom-fz6pe Před 2 měsíci

    Just ordered a skid loader and decided to go with the mid-size model. After seeing this demo, I'm really glad I didn't go with the small skid as I have A LOT of dirt to move, and I wanted to get a 4-in-1. Thanks for the honest video.

  • @RustyNail5856
    @RustyNail5856 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video Andrew, Well edited with some great points about the bucket you selected and the pros and cons of the design. keep up the great videos, take care.

  • @dougcorrigan9677
    @dougcorrigan9677 Před 6 lety +12

    Andrew, to help manage the extra hose length: Shoup Farm equipment ( google their website) sells a spring steel hose support/ standoff real cheap. It will hold hoses routed up off the top of the bucket and allow the hose to slide through and return. Keeps it from getting pinched when you dump and curl the bucket. Welds to upper edge. I have one on my CTL attachments. Saves hoses and lost work time. Can send you a photo if you wish.

  • @chrisgroom9299
    @chrisgroom9299 Před 6 lety +1

    I have the same size four in one bucket as you have here in the uk, and have no problems opening it when full. I can even load big muckaway trucks with ease. Admittedly its not fitted on a Bobcat but on a Thomas loader. Its been an Extremely useful bit of kit and have even demolished large buildings by munching them down with the bucket. I bought this bucket second hand from Versatile Equipment and suspect that part of the problem you have seems to be the way the bucket is balanced. But i know how frustrating these sort of problems can be so good luck with finding a happy solution.

  • @chrisgroom9299
    @chrisgroom9299 Před 5 lety +2

    Have even used my four in one bucket to demolish quite big buildings, gripped the roof and pulled it straight off. Have got video doing it. While i still have the original bucket for my THOMAS Skidsteer i tend to use the four in one bucket for most jobs. Only problem i seem to have is that my bucket only has a straight cutting edge and not teeth, which would sometimes be nice. I bought this bucket as nearly new and it has performed wonderfully.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @fynbo1007
    @fynbo1007 Před 6 lety +5

    Congratulations with your new 4 in 1 bucket, thank you for sharing your amazing video

  • @caseyhill7419
    @caseyhill7419 Před 5 lety +3

    Huge fan of your channel! I feel like I get so much accomplished watching your content.

  • @markbonham3477
    @markbonham3477 Před 5 lety +1

    Your one day appraisal is correct I would say as my experience with one of these was about the same. I operated a case with the 4 in 1 and a gannon box scrapper on the rear. I pretty much did all the grading with the gannon and only used the bucket for loading large rocks into a pile. I'm a natural for grading as my bosses all said and the 4in1 just dosen't cut it!

  • @bohhica1
    @bohhica1 Před 4 lety

    Good job Andrew, you gotta do what you gotta do to keep ahead. Great videos.

  • @treyt7651
    @treyt7651 Před 3 lety +14

    As soon as i saw he ordered a 72 for that little machine i was like oh shit this isnt going to go well lol

    • @ClinttheGreat
      @ClinttheGreat Před 3 lety +2

      Small tractor syndrome (Napoleon complex, if you will). Owner trying to make his machine bigger than it is - usually makes the work go slower.

  • @COYO-T
    @COYO-T Před 5 lety +8

    I work for Bobcat but I don't work where they build the skid steers.I used to build allot of the attachments but they move them around to different states.I am a welder and I build the MX buckets{back hoe} and allot of the different breaker backs components.I also build the dirt and GP buckets.The sides are different but looks like that's a grain bucket.You need a C/I bucket.Its shorter in depth{blade to back}And it's built tough and made for digging in dirt.C/I stands for construction industrial encase you didn't know.

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 Před 5 lety

      i'm glad you chimed in. do you know if people add counterweights to the small skid steers? it appears they're not designed for it but... i was wondering if the rear chassis would have room to weld on a mounting bracket to support a counterweight frame. with 200kg hanging off the back, andrew would get the stability he needs.

    • @COYO-T
      @COYO-T Před 5 lety

      @@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 I don't think it's possible to add weights in the rear.There is a door on the rear for back of engine access.That is an old style of Bobcat.Probably when it was Melroe Bobcat.Then they were Ingersoll Rand.Now they are Doosan as of 2008-9,can't remember which year.

    • @cdouglas1942
      @cdouglas1942 Před 5 lety

      @@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 SAw a BObcat type rig recently that had a weight apparatus attached to its sides near the rear.

  • @thekeatons4
    @thekeatons4 Před 6 lety

    I dont have a Bobcat... I wont ever have a Bobcat but I just watched your whole video! Not sure why, but I really enjoy what you do and you do a great job of sharing the info with us... for that I thank you for taking the time to do your videos!

  • @oldbakedpotato
    @oldbakedpotato Před 4 lety

    In 1985 I had a new 743 with the 4-in1. Sweet setup. Not much shovel work when done cleaning up the that.

  • @daniellange4772
    @daniellange4772 Před 6 lety +174

    You should have a mechanic adjust your pressure relief valve. There should be no problem with your machine opening that clam, loaded or not.

    • @kevinvermeer9011
      @kevinvermeer9011 Před 5 lety +37

      Sorry to necro this comment, but watching this later the right thing to do would be to invert the cylinder setup so that the opening action is stronger, powered by the full cylinder bore, and the closing action (which could bend the bucket) has lower force, being reduced by the diameter of the rod.

    • @v12dot
      @v12dot Před 5 lety +11

      You’re right ....the rod side has a smaller diameter surface , so less force . Invert the rams :)

    • @abmorty
      @abmorty Před 5 lety +3

      @@kevinvermeer9011 The only problem with that approach is that grappling stuff is now even more limited...less squeeze!

    • @erichhaenitsch1709
      @erichhaenitsch1709 Před 4 lety

      Agreed

    • @brianlowe1052
      @brianlowe1052 Před 4 lety

      abmorty p

  • @jeremykent9088
    @jeremykent9088 Před 6 lety +4

    another great video, thanks for sharing

  • @GeorgeBonez
    @GeorgeBonez Před 8 měsíci

    The bridge project is my favorite of them all. The complete bridge video is really great folks.
    I like all the water related projects like the bridge, culverts, ponds and drainage etc.

  • @FreakinCoolUsermane
    @FreakinCoolUsermane Před 6 lety +1

    dang dude your really starting to build a list of equipment. Im getting excited!

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch Před 6 lety +20

    Are you sure both hydraulic lines for the bucket work at the same pressure ?
    No tuning possible on pressure limiters ?
    Can't you simply shorten the old bucket for the small bobcat and install a serviceable cutting edge ?

    • @theycallmefranco
      @theycallmefranco Před 5 lety

      I was thinking the same thing about the lines. He switched the lines. Wonder if that has something to do with it.

  • @ohhpaul7364
    @ohhpaul7364 Před 6 lety +5

    When you are trying to grade with the bulldozer, I was taught to open the bucket most of the way, set the back edge down on the ground and the "front" edge of the clam on the ground level with it, then do your pushing. Much like when you do a back drag to get a scoop but just with both edges on the ground and going forward instead. The way that clamshell is designed, if you back drag over a stump to hard it will bow the middle of the bucket. Those pistons did look a bit to small diameter. If you are yanking small trees out of the ground with it, grab them somewhat centered on where quick attach bracket connects to the bucket, close the clam enough to grip the tree but not cut it off, then drive a bit forward while rolling the bucket back and up. Also for the bulldozer blade, you just have to get the hang of where the blade is by looking at where the back of the bucket is touching the ground. On the Takeuchi I used, you could tell by looking at the outsides of the quick attach at the ground. I am an expert with the machine by no means, but I hope these words help. you may have bought a bucket that is just a bit to big even for your tracked machine. perhaps you don't have enough hydraulic pressure for what is needed for that bucket? letsdig18 has some videos of grading like I mentioned too, if you want to look them up on here.

  • @conyxmanagement1740
    @conyxmanagement1740 Před 4 lety

    I am a huge fan of your channel sir...I watch every video you post and learn so much from them. I am far from an expert on anything compared you, but I am have the same exact 4 in 1 from Titan on my 763 and it opens and closes with extreme force. I can actually crush metal with it! I would call Titan directly and see what they say. I have called them before with questions/issues with other products I purchased from them and they have either helped troubleshoot the issue or replaced the item

  • @BradleyKang23
    @BradleyKang23 Před 3 lety

    I have the same exact hydraulic leak on my 742, gonna try welding a new fitting on the metal line too. Great Idea!

  • @williamhewitt4950
    @williamhewitt4950 Před 6 lety +6

    Hello from Victoria Australia, I seen it, hard to believe, good one.

  • @timhottinger2166
    @timhottinger2166 Před 5 lety +4

    I have a 4in1 bucket on my cat 420dit. The thing is great for claming up the last load of dirt .
    Stops you from chasing it around.

  • @RobiSydney
    @RobiSydney Před 6 lety

    On the 863 I was using and on the 443 I welded Chain hooks on the Arm towers. I then could hang the solid tires we have for the 863 for counter weight. I could use 2 on the 443 to counter balance. The relief valves for the Aux hydraulics can be made to go higher in pressure.

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound Před 5 lety

    You are showing us the limits of the Bobcat so no one else has to go through this. You are a Saint!
    Don't get me wrong, Bobcats are awesome machines.

  • @williamhewitt4950
    @williamhewitt4950 Před 6 lety +29

    I don’t know why I love your videos. Thanks.

    • @calireu
      @calireu Před 6 lety +5

      William Hewitt Me too. He is a kind of Mc Giver . Do you remember?

    • @goesintite
      @goesintite Před 6 lety +1

      Same here. He kind of sounds like my little (McGiver) brother or something.

    • @johnkruton9708
      @johnkruton9708 Před 5 lety +1

      He never swears. Works quietly. I’m wanting to add my own videos but I’d be censored 🤬 gosh darn sum b etc etc. lol

    • @peppigue
      @peppigue Před 5 lety

      @@johnkruton9708 You can swear as much as you want on youtube

  • @Sam-nl6fr
    @Sam-nl6fr Před 6 lety +5

    Very well edited video

  • @Clapped_Out_Customs
    @Clapped_Out_Customs Před 6 lety

    Hey Andrew absolutely love your videos. I have started my own excavating business partial credit to you and a few other youtubers for giving me the motivation to just go for it. I too just redid all my drive motor lines on my 1994 743b. I went with compression fittings and all went well. Never thought of welding them but dont see why it would be an issue.

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah, good to hear. That thing isn't leaking now.

  • @brianpercival1829
    @brianpercival1829 Před 5 lety

    Right tool for the right job. One thought I had was a quick removable rod mounted to the cage roof with a camera on the end out so you can see the blade. Small tablet with Bluetooth to pick up the camera feed. You could see the action on the blade.

  • @dustinpryde3121
    @dustinpryde3121 Před 6 lety +7

    And watch those hoses. Run them up through the ring on the side of the arm. Sometimes you have to twist them around to get the loop up in the air.

  • @learnjcbskidsterchickensga7594

    For the hearing impaired would be nice to have transcript in description. Love your videos. I purchased a Demo Dozer for my skid loader, a friend's recommendation.

    • @rjohnson9543
      @rjohnson9543 Před 3 lety

      There is cc available on most CZcams vids now.

  • @dondoolittle9761
    @dondoolittle9761 Před 2 lety

    Wow! Been following for a few months. Kudos!! You've hit the sweet spot, But for us non-wrenchers can you explain a little more about things like how hydraulics work before you fix the hydraulics? Love that you're staying with your down home roots. Best advice I ever got in my life is "You're never as good as or as bad as you think you are." Love it. Can't wait for your next installment.

  • @dennisconlon5810
    @dennisconlon5810 Před 5 lety

    Hello I have a mini skid steer and it came with a 4 in 1 bucket. I used it for a short time till I bought a drop off bucket which I use all the time now. The great part of that bucket is it will dump the dirt on the other side of the truck, which makes it so easy and quick to load the truck. I have four buckets all together and use that one the most.

  • @BOBCAT2001ify
    @BOBCAT2001ify Před 6 lety +5

    Love the video- Especially the part with the Hoses- My family owns a hydraulic and industrial hose company out of Medford Massachusetts- So all that hose stuff interest me - And if that shop couldn’t have done the bent tube (we have a day or 2 turn around time on bent tube) you could’ve had them make that section of tube out of hose (run the hose around the tubing and around the bends to get a measurement) and add a little extra length to make up for the bends that way you’d have one continuous hose- I’m guess that’s -12 or -10 JIC thread. It wouldn’t be optimal but it definitely would’ve worked and eliminated having to cut and weld that tube. We do hoses sometimes that way especially if the guy doesn’t want to wait for the bent tube and thinks using hose would work. Great video as usual!

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  Před 6 lety +3

      Thanks, good advice. I have replaced pre-bent hoses in the past with rubber. In this case I didn't feel it would have worked because of tight clearances with moving parts. That's why it got fixed the way it did. Its still working well.

  • @retrofitter
    @retrofitter Před 6 lety +25

    To fix the bucket opening problem, cut the yokes off the bucket along the welds and weld them on slightly tipped backwards. It won't open as far but it would make it work for what you want. It will only cost you time and welding materials

    • @TheMitchbassman
      @TheMitchbassman Před 5 lety +1

      I thought of that too. It would change the leverage point giving the cylinder more mechanical advantage

    • @neilgelinas9926
      @neilgelinas9926 Před 5 lety +1

      I would move the cyliners back but I would make a leverage arm. That would increase the ram power cosniderably.

  • @Sjanzo
    @Sjanzo Před 5 lety +1

    Best thing for grading with a loader, is a regular bucket with an extra cutting edge welded under the heel, sticking out one or two inch. Not far enough to hinder the bucket curl when loading from a stockpile but enough to skim dirt both ways.

  • @shanegrangrad8559
    @shanegrangrad8559 Před 5 lety

    Very clever young bloke . Lots of knowledge . I hate hydraulics too . The amount of hard lines Iv replaced with flex pressure hose . Just like you cut the ends off mig weld them to the new hose fitting . End of problem

  • @llibeel
    @llibeel Před 5 lety +4

    The arm beyond the hinge on the bucket that connects to the top of the hydraulic cylinder needs to be longer. It's not using the advantages of a lever.

  • @txwizkid
    @txwizkid Před 6 lety +16

    I'll bet that moment at 26:01 made it interesting in the cab of the truck...

    • @mammothfire
      @mammothfire Před 4 lety +2

      I suppose you could call brown stained seats "interesting".

  • @gonget
    @gonget Před 4 lety +2

    When grading with a 4 in 1 tilt open bucket forward drop the front edge of the bucket down to kind of pre grade the material. A little playing around and it will become second nature. Also using a 4 in 1 on a pile of dirt sometimes is easier to approach pile bucket open and fill via pulling back from the top, a lot easier on the machine as you are not asking the machine to move the unmovable.

  • @jaymanxxxx
    @jaymanxxxx Před 4 lety

    love them grapple buckets I used one of those demo grapple buckets to pick up large square bails in a paper recycling plant. on a bobcat 250 two speed.

  • @josephvilla7359
    @josephvilla7359 Před 6 lety +5

    Good demo

  • @owenscheider1874
    @owenscheider1874 Před 6 lety +25

    He wasnt stuck, just couldnt move

  • @robertyouderian169
    @robertyouderian169 Před 6 lety

    Great bucket for building and grading roads, clearing also.

  • @derekbest9703
    @derekbest9703 Před 6 lety +2

    25:58 - Damn bud i thought this video was gonna be cut short. good stuff

  • @JimsEquipmentShed
    @JimsEquipmentShed Před 6 lety +33

    Ha! ha! love it man, warts and all. Hey, I've NEVER gotten stuck on a job site...... (At least not on video, because I'm perfect..... ;-)
    Seriously though, I feel your pain with the loader, my little kubota is limited like that with even a one ton. (EDIT: Oh, and when it wouldn't open in the air, well done not dropping F-bombs like I would have......)

  • @loviedebiasio8864
    @loviedebiasio8864 Před 6 lety +6

    I was thinking the dirt looked like it was moist and sticky. then you did say that.

  • @dennisconlon5810
    @dennisconlon5810 Před 4 lety

    I had a 4in1 bucket for my mini skid steer. I was so happy when I got that bucket, used it a few times and never used it again. It just didn’t do what I thought it would do. So after that I bought a hydraulic drop off bucket. With that bucket I could dump the load on the other side of the truck and be able to fill the hole truck from one side to the other.

  • @coreyfrasnelly7364
    @coreyfrasnelly7364 Před 5 lety

    I own a Napa store and we make hoses and those bobcat style with the metal tubing are a pain in the ass....but you sure have eliminated that pain. Now I know what to tell my customers if the have a welder 👍🏻

  • @ToTheTopCrane
    @ToTheTopCrane Před 6 lety +95

    You are going to hate that bucket until you put it on a different machine. Also, not a fan of welded on cutting edges. You may want to check your auxiliary hydro pressure by snapping a gauge on your quick connectors.

    • @sandy1653
      @sandy1653 Před 6 lety +19

      You used to be a heavy equipment Mechanic Jimmy, what would you say to maybe flipping the bucket open cylinders 180 degrees so instead of opening with the rod end, you're opening with the barrel end so you get the full grunt?

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane Před 6 lety +11

      Sandy, if the space allows, I absolutely would. That's a great idea.

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane Před 6 lety +7

      Sandy, if Andrew wants me to, I can do the math on it and tell him how much force would be generated with them mounted 180.

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane Před 6 lety +3

      The only adverse effects that I could see would be the barrel moving up and down along with the hoses and fittings, as opposed to being stationary, and the clamping force when used as a grapple would be reduced.

    • @sandy1653
      @sandy1653 Před 6 lety +2

      For the way Andrew seems to want to use the contraption, I suspect the trade-off between actually being able to open it mid-air and grapple clamping force (which it looks about useless at anyhow) would probably be worth it. At least that's what I'd be doing if it were my bucket.

  • @07decker
    @07decker Před 5 lety +44

    highly recommend getting a heavy duty strap instead of a chain for pulling.
    Too much of a shock load with a chain.

    • @abmorty
      @abmorty Před 5 lety +9

      ditto, just watch the fail channels that have episodes including chain breaks: Human injuries; broken glass; free of charge body modification (auto)...

    • @leewaytoo
      @leewaytoo Před 4 lety +2

      or place an old tire in between -------O------- that will take the shock/stress out of the pull................

    • @hypercube33
      @hypercube33 Před 3 lety +2

      Plus you usually end up with all of your limbs if it happens to snap and hit you

    • @retiredinbali9565
      @retiredinbali9565 Před 3 lety

      @@leewaytoo Great idea.

    • @leewaytoo
      @leewaytoo Před 3 lety

      @@retiredinbali9565 thank you.... growing up in Alaska, sometimes one gets stuck during break up in the spring.... older sourdoughs taught us young pups that means to avoid the shock to either vehicle.

  • @dieselfuel6006
    @dieselfuel6006 Před 5 lety

    You sure helped me out. I was about to order one until I watched ur video. 👍👍

  • @Neceros
    @Neceros Před 4 lety

    I'm envious of all your awesome tools

  • @williamlemaire9882
    @williamlemaire9882 Před 6 lety +252

    A bigger Bobcat perhaps

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 Před 6 lety +9

      the big svl 90-2 is a huge 90.2 hp skidsteer

    • @Graveltrucking
      @Graveltrucking Před 6 lety +8

      Where I work we've got a SVL75 its big enough

    • @aidansharples7751
      @aidansharples7751 Před 6 lety +7

      And no electric hyraulic controls.

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 Před 6 lety +6

      no kubota has heavy duty hydrulic system no electric controls wich my buddy has 2 svl 75-2's wich lifts heavier materials plus kubota skid steer arms are more longer and solid strong stable skidsteers out plus dealers of kubota takes $2500 off

    • @cdouglas1942
      @cdouglas1942 Před 5 lety +14

      Several months later after Bobcat trouble he says hes going to sell both. Considering Takeguchi (?), well recommended.

  • @AttitudeAdjuster
    @AttitudeAdjuster Před 5 lety +8

    Operator problems, Spend allot more time with the bucket and you will get better, Grapple is totally different in both operational design, it would be like you comparing the Grapple for picking up dirt to the dirt Bucket, Here in Australia No machines are bought with GP buckets, With 4 In 1's we use Spreader bars and this leaves your machines for Dead, you will bend the floor of 4 in 1's in picking up large Rocks, Good Quality Buckets here won't bend but yours doesn't have good enough Cylinders to open or Grab but I would also guess that the hinge points won't work well if the rams were up sized. Your operational skill is not far off from getting much better with it, I can tell you that if you do persevere then you would never go back, But I think in the States from what I have seen is that no one Knows how to use them Correctly so everyone gives up and I would say most are just missing the operational methods by just a little bit. Best of Luck and enjoy you video's

    • @jemfly1062
      @jemfly1062 Před 5 lety

      Attitude Adjuster, it's interesting, isn't it? Americans don't seem to use 4 in 1s, and I've very rarely seen a spreader bar being used on any of their machines. Here in Oz, every operator has a 4 in 1 and one correctly sized for the machine, and they mostly do very good work with them. The 4 in 1 which Andrew bought certainly looks too big for that machine.

  • @1bertski
    @1bertski Před 6 lety +1

    You just got to get use to it. I don’t have problems like you. If you’re moving a lot of rubbish or brush you need a different buckets but with dirt or gravel the 4 in 1 is the one you really want.

  • @COYO-T
    @COYO-T Před 5 lety +1

    Root Grapple is a good bucket for moving brush and no dirt.Where I work we make these and the Grapple Bucket to move brush and dirt as well.I really do enjoy watching your videos so don't take any of my comments negatively.I don't like seeing after market attachments of Bobcat skid steers.

  • @RolandElliottFirstG
    @RolandElliottFirstG Před 6 lety +3

    Even on the bigger machines the buckets take a lot to open , it may be the rams on this bucket are to small a diameter bore, hence less power to open, the Ram bore on the buckets are quite large for opening the bucket, so it is slow opening but has more power. The pivot point on the bucket running off the top of the rams are also longer than what I have seen normally which also reduces the opening power.
    The other think is to flick the bucket back when its loaded with material to get the weight of the material to the back of the bucket, then you can fit more in it, also another way is to open the bucket and grab the material, this will fill the bucket also, but you may have to spill some out of the front of the bucket. I am suprised they don't have the teeth on the outer corners, most do have.

  • @FastEddie007007
    @FastEddie007007 Před 6 lety +140

    Kind of like a mail order bride, she might look pretty good in a picture but you don't know what you have till after the marriage.

    • @zbudda
      @zbudda Před 6 lety +34

      Charles Shanafelt. Especially when she wont spread open under load...

    • @calireu
      @calireu Před 6 lety +2

      Charles Shanafelt It’s not the same to see her in the street than living with her

    • @mjethier
      @mjethier Před 6 lety

      Huh?

    • @kathyzeilinga258
      @kathyzeilinga258 Před 6 lety

      Charles Shanafelt g

    • @donniecoleman1324
      @donniecoleman1324 Před 4 lety

      Charles Shanafelt

  • @realmoronosity5956
    @realmoronosity5956 Před 6 lety +1

    I feel bad that a new bucket you bought doesn’t work the way it should. That really sucks and I hope you can make it work or fix it. Love the videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @craigpalmer5693
    @craigpalmer5693 Před 4 lety

    Replace everything on equipment young men has experience in machine make your job easy awesome video keep up the good work friend bless you

  • @huckmiller1971
    @huckmiller1971 Před 6 lety +16

    It's the geometry , the way the cylinders are mounted ! They are mounted to squeeze , not to open up loaded !

    • @jacksprat7087
      @jacksprat7087 Před 4 lety

      Huck Miller yes. Move the pins backward about 3” and possibly get bigger cylinders.

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs Před 4 lety

      More leverage is more leverage. Weak opening doesn't mean strong clamping. It's the same cylinders on the same bucket in the same orientation. More opening strength means more clamping strength.

    • @huckmiller1971
      @huckmiller1971 Před 4 lety

      mwilliamshs when you push a car out of the ditch , do you push on the side or the back ? I. I the top of the Eyes is max push . As it rolls over , the push diminishes , because it shortens the leverage !

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs Před 4 lety

      So the difference you're referring to, the highest concentration of force within the pin's circumference, is less than 3/4" from its polar opposite. You really think 3/4" of bias toward pinch vs open is significant?

    • @huckmiller1971
      @huckmiller1971 Před 4 lety

      mwilliamshs no that is not what I'm saying .

  • @bighurk30able
    @bighurk30able Před 6 lety +8

    Another good video buddy haven't you made enough from CZcams to go buy a new 4 wheel drive dump truck lol

  • @forestlawrencegrading9154

    The 4 in 1 bucket is a good tool on the job site try opening the clam only about 4 to 5 in when using the Dozer blade drag the back of the clam will only allow your Dozer blade to cut so much at a time it won't go gouge in and it works or like a scrapers the dirt will roll forward and fill the bottom sorta like a scraper pan

  • @chrisgroom9299
    @chrisgroom9299 Před 5 lety +2

    Here in the uk I have a four in one bucket on my THOMAS Skidsteer and find it VERY useful👍🏻 no problems opening it at all. Find that i can load large muckaway trucks with it even when full right up, even reaching right up to get over the sides. Not sure what make it is but think your smaller Bobcat machine is the prob not the bucket👍🏻👍🏻🥴

  • @CoastConcreteCorp
    @CoastConcreteCorp Před 6 lety +9

    That bucket is too heavy for the 743B. The 864 should open it with no issue, I think the bucket pistons are too weak, as you mentioned in the video they’re undersized. I have an 843 and use the 4 in 1 and even with wet sticky clay it opens right up. Just be cautious of your tracks, the bucket is too narrow and you could damage the sides of the tracks. Best of luck to you, keep the vids coming they’re great.

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      @spencerbishop554 Před 6 lety

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  • @TheCitroenman1
    @TheCitroenman1 Před 6 lety +12

    i think with you're fabrication skills you should make a cam bucket you're welding is good

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson Před 5 lety +1

    I'd weld several (3 or 4) close overlapping long teeth which are slightly above and angled upwards on the inside join between the bucket and the blade to be able to grapple things better when the bucket is full open. Make sure to weld them in place above the blade cut line so that your blading runs are still smooth. It might make for picking up stumps and brush much easier.

  • @timedvrodlehnen8448
    @timedvrodlehnen8448 Před 4 lety +1

    Yes a smaller bucket or more horsepower. I have a 1989 743 I love it 31 years and running strong, I use it under houses took off cage to make low profile..

  • @surplusdoctor
    @surplusdoctor Před 6 lety +8

    you need a tiny bucket for that machine

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz Před 6 lety +8

    Can you bump up the hydraulic pressure on that smaller machine without breaking anything? Since the machine is old, do you think the pumps are worn out? That new bucket looks like it works well for grading. Good honest review on this bucket.

  • @chrisguitard3951
    @chrisguitard3951 Před 5 lety

    Love your work Buddy, keep it up.....

  • @btaylor9748
    @btaylor9748 Před 5 lety

    Brother you really need counter weights on all your machines they make a world of a difference , never had a problem loading the hell out of my half yard bucket on the John deer skid steer , very stable with counter weights on the back

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig Před 6 lety +4

    Titan didn't design it to pickup anything other than sand, soil & gravel.

  • @papaal7014
    @papaal7014 Před 5 lety +6

    dump a pile next to the truck
    to drive up on
    for higher loading.

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound Před 5 lety +1

      I remember guys doing that! It works! (Been decades since I worked construction).

  • @jenky1044
    @jenky1044 Před 2 lety

    Great show.
    We have 2 medium and 1 large skid-steers (wheel loaders) made by New Holland. They'll lift the back of a Ford F150 off the ground. They will actually lift more then they can move. Very strong hydraulics. If we ever got another machine, I would love to try a JCB.! Trax are nice (floatation) but tires seem quicker and way cheaper and less parts to wear out.
    I like your channel.!

  • @dustinpryde3121
    @dustinpryde3121 Před 5 lety +1

    Ive been watchimg your video again and thinking this bucket must not have big enough cylinders on it. Because I've had a 743, 863, T300, T190, T770 and a T870 all with 4 in 1 buckets with no issues with opening. The buckets were bought for the machine at bobcat though. My Cat 299 has a 4 in 1 now with no issues as well. I have to have one for grading up around garages etc. paving. Loading is so much easier with one as well. I can pile my tri axles to the brim.