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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
  • So what makes the Special Edition releases of DMC games so special anyway?
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    Intro: 0:00
    DMC3 Special Edition: 4:25
    DmC Definitive Edition: 22:15
    Vergil's Downfall: 27:02
    DMC4 Special Edition: 39:15
    DMC5 Special Edition: 1:00:39

Komentáře • 1,1K

  • @CaseyEdwards
    @CaseyEdwards Před 3 lety +5463

    Thanks for the love on Bury the Light! \m/ \m/

    • @Foxcade
      @Foxcade  Před 3 lety +1019

      No problem Casey, thanks for the work you did with Bury the Light and Devil Trigger! Favorite themes of the series.

    • @lavans5721
      @lavans5721 Před 3 lety +289

      Holy shit it's the man himself

    • @salsamancer
      @salsamancer Před 3 lety +123

      thank YOU for all the great art you contributed to this game!

    • @lewydmusic
      @lewydmusic Před 3 lety +89

      Bury the Light is literally the thing of musical dreams for a theory nerd like me

    • @trickster1959
      @trickster1959 Před 3 lety +42

      *claps for legendary song*

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 Před 3 lety +2980

    Vergil is one of the few video game bosses that actually gets STRONGER when he's playable

    • @platzstarlight
      @platzstarlight Před 3 lety +235

      Well with the exception of the flying skill. Imagine flying like a jet with his sdt form... That would be cool LMAO!

    • @thatsit3922
      @thatsit3922 Před 3 lety +259

      @@platzstarlight who needs flying when you can just i-frame pretty much anytime

    • @tahraki4918
      @tahraki4918 Před 3 lety +83

      @@platzstarlight I'd imagine that's what Deep Stinger is meant to represent. It also trivializes Furies on DMD

    • @platzstarlight
      @platzstarlight Před 3 lety +31

      @@tahraki4918 I rarely use deep stinger on furies because I usually timed my Hell on Earth right when it spawns if I am lazy or straight out just play parry with it till it die for dt gauge and style points... But what I meant was the skill the final boss Vergil is using, the one where he charges for awhile then fly out from the map and tries knocking you down for 3 times.

    • @tahraki4918
      @tahraki4918 Před 3 lety +12

      @@platzstarlight I know. I was trying to say that Deep Stinger is probably meant to replicate the Vergil Plane.

  • @Conflict-ff5pi
    @Conflict-ff5pi Před 3 lety +1965

    It amuses me to no end that even as an NPC boss fight, royal guard is still horrifically broken.
    Only this time *we* have to suffer through it.
    I'm sorry Vergil. I'm sorry I put you through this so many times.

    • @JustSoji
      @JustSoji Před 3 lety +302

      I regret nothing. Being on the receiving end only makes me want to royal release twice as hard

    • @HeyMomonia
      @HeyMomonia Před 3 lety +184

      Imagine if we could play as dante vs dante and royal release his royal release
      I wonder what would happen

    • @SKR-97
      @SKR-97 Před 3 lety +53

      @@HeyMomonia You can do it in DMC4

    • @HeyMomonia
      @HeyMomonia Před 3 lety +46

      @@SKR-97 I will never be able to beat dmc4's bloody palace thanks to the f*cking blitz
      Always out of time thanks to those fuckers

    • @solracstormhunter3023
      @solracstormhunter3023 Před 3 lety +30

      @@HeyMomonia Ah, I see You're a mad scientist as well

  • @PunkDuck
    @PunkDuck Před 3 lety +1801

    Willing to wait another decade for Capcom to let me play as Crew Cut

    • @JasonGodwin69
      @JasonGodwin69 Před 3 lety +89

      It's absurd that Vergil's supposed to be this focused and elegant "Win in a few hits" kind of guy but in-game he's just the "Spam OP moves that make you invincible or let you JC from across the room also never stop mashing summoned swords EVER" guyy.

    • @gobitan6994
      @gobitan6994 Před 3 lety +15

      I knew I recognized the "sexiest voice in the world." Super Meat Booooy!
      Love your videos, man

    • @cillbipher2613
      @cillbipher2613 Před 3 lety +21

      I remember when they said that Crew Cut was a reference/cameo to another game.
      And we never figured out what it was.

    • @mekudu-man3804
      @mekudu-man3804 Před 3 lety +10

      @@JasonGodwin69 but aren't bosses that you can recruit later always like this?

    • @ksad96
      @ksad96 Před 3 lety +54

      @@JasonGodwin69 Fun fact: Every DMC character has the ability to be brain dead and let you mash the big hit buttons to get through. However, doing it in a cool way is what makes each character wildly different. Dante swaps between weapons, Nero times his Max-Act and focuses on charging Blue Rose, Vergil has his accuracy and skillful play.
      Or you can use Stinger and Thousand Cuts with Dante, mash attacks with Nero and spam Swords with Vergil.
      V kinda can play the same no matter what and get easy style, obviously.

  • @randomman4628
    @randomman4628 Před 3 lety +287

    50:34 "Royal Guard this you fucking casual!"

  • @solracstormhunter3023
    @solracstormhunter3023 Před 3 lety +432

    53:45 "Give Lady a shotgun move tha increases her mobility"
    Doomguy:
    *Stares at his meathook*

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 Před 3 lety +27

      Interestingly, in DMC3, Lady and Dante were able to use a grappling hook (the latter using it as a style move to pull enemies towards him).

    • @solracstormhunter3023
      @solracstormhunter3023 Před 3 lety +8

      @@cadethumann8605
      The way Lady uses the Bayonett-Grapple is similar to Jacques in Onimusha 3.
      Speaking of Onimusha:
      - DSD's Sword Formations are identical to Soki's special Swords abilities in Onimusha 4;
      - Balrog's Blow Mode is similar to Robertos punches;
      - And Neros DT is identical to Soki's Black Onimusha God Transformation.
      The funny thing is: just like Dante, Samanosuke the MC of the Series, is the older "Red Demon" that passed the torch to Soki the "Blue Demon" just like Nero.

    • @doctorbrown5957
      @doctorbrown5957 Před 2 lety +1

      @@solracstormhunter3023 If only Capcom gave 2 shits about Onimusha. I found the combat in those games, especially 1 and 2, very deep and rewarding. Onimusha 2 was one of the hardest games I had ever played at the time but I was patient, learned the mechanics, and consistently got better at every hurdle I had encountered.
      Also fuck that creepy nemesis doll in the Xbox version of Onimusha 1.

    • @kin4386
      @kin4386 Před 2 lety

      Funnily enough, that's exactly what Pinnacle of Combat did. Not only did they give her way more melee attack options with the rest of her weapons, but they also gave her WAY more satisfying and snappy movement options. Both Kalina Ann and her Shotgun can essentially be used as midair Trickster dashes. I really hope that game becomes available worldwide so I can play with her. Or at least make her playable in 5 with these new changes.

    • @ilikemyname0w088
      @ilikemyname0w088 Před rokem

      “unf”

  • @salsamancer
    @salsamancer Před 3 lety +1088

    I'm still miffed that we got no extra costumes in DMCV, even in the special edition. This is pretty much a time honored tradition for these types of games at this point.

    • @SaberRexZealot
      @SaberRexZealot Před 3 lety +145

      Probably the change in technology since all clothes are scanned into the game now. Capcom didn’t want to create any new assets. In fact there’s a ton of reused ones across all RE Engine games.

    • @jayomega2717
      @jayomega2717 Před 3 lety +76

      @@SaberRexZealot Remake2 had multiple customes

    • @Darkstar18773
      @Darkstar18773 Před 3 lety +30

      What does miffed mean? I’ve never heard that before

    • @edwardmillard4398
      @edwardmillard4398 Před 3 lety +63

      @@Darkstar18773 miffed means annoyed.

    • @Mojaveknight17
      @Mojaveknight17 Před 3 lety +5

      Let down

  • @JustSoji
    @JustSoji Před 3 lety +375

    Disappointed you didn’t have the plastic chair mod on at all in this entire video

    • @ironic_ghost62
      @ironic_ghost62 Před 2 lety +8

      Well, mods can only really be added on pc so disappointing

  • @spiderzero2099
    @spiderzero2099 Před 3 lety +893

    Vergil is the only video game character that is OP in every game he is playable in.

    • @jayomega2717
      @jayomega2717 Před 3 lety +26

      Nah. DMC3 you have to at least know how to use him. He doesn’t have BS aoe moves

    • @jayomega2717
      @jayomega2717 Před 3 lety +17

      @kollie79 They don’t even compare to Judgement Cut, Hell on Earth, etc

    • @futureflea3917
      @futureflea3917 Před 3 lety +15

      Is he OP in mvc3?

    • @YOSSIMOTO75
      @YOSSIMOTO75 Před 3 lety +20

      I used Vergil in DMD and I only made it to mission 19, with Dante only mission 2. So yes, Vergil is broken af and we love him.

    • @futureflea3917
      @futureflea3917 Před 3 lety

      @kollie79 ah ok then

  • @ripperjack7642
    @ripperjack7642 Před 3 lety +634

    Vergil has precision driven gameplay
    Also vergil:
    Hell on earth go b-r-r-r-r-

    • @YOSSIMOTO75
      @YOSSIMOTO75 Před 3 lety +66

      Now I'm a little motivated B O O M

    • @brancolt_
      @brancolt_ Před 3 lety +44

      that’s the “fuck off I ain’t got time for this bullshit” move

    • @nathanielbaldevino5364
      @nathanielbaldevino5364 Před 3 lety +40

      @@brancolt_ I have no time to style on you, here take a full powered flash of light at your eyes

    • @ZeroBeat1
      @ZeroBeat1 Před 3 lety

      Precisely.

    • @raikoedgymoto
      @raikoedgymoto Před 3 lety +20

      @@nathanielbaldevino5364
      Urizen more like your reason to cheese this fight.

  • @TherysMorth
    @TherysMorth Před 3 lety +432

    Featuring Woolie from Super Best Friends franchise

  • @T-verseTrevor
    @T-verseTrevor Před 3 lety +1097

    This dude *NEEDS* to be in his own game.

    • @Darkyan97
      @Darkyan97 Před 3 lety +53

      He really deserves it.

    • @qunaqunowski
      @qunaqunowski Před 3 lety +144

      DMC is as much of Vergil's series as it is Dante's, he's just yet to receive his own game and I'm glad that they actually build him up for all these years.

    • @HeyMomonia
      @HeyMomonia Před 3 lety +56

      My exact thought since i first played him
      He needs his own game
      He still needs a redemption arc an actual one from all the sins he made since the deginning

    • @PerfectTroy1
      @PerfectTroy1 Před 3 lety +78

      The DMC Community has been pleading for years for Vergil to have his own game. DMC 5: SE finally flushed out his moveset too. Give him a game where he gets revenge on a revived Mundus. No forced character switching, just 20 kick-ass levels of Vergil.

    • @SonplaysMinEcraft
      @SonplaysMinEcraft Před 3 lety +4

      Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3

  • @sturmzwiebel9065
    @sturmzwiebel9065 Před 3 lety +223

    an Hour of nothing but Vergil talk?.....Sign me the hell up!

  • @Jose-se9pu
    @Jose-se9pu Před 3 lety +436

    When you are single on Valentine's Day, but Foxcade uploads an hout long video about DMC.
    *perfectly balanced, as all things should be*

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr Před 3 lety +9

      That's because Vergil is the best girl

    • @TheFLAMEXD
      @TheFLAMEXD Před 3 lety +10

      @@SlavoidUkr Best boy. Vergil is male.

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr Před 3 lety +8

      @@TheFLAMEXD bold of you to assume sex matters in order to be called "the best girl"

    • @TheFLAMEXD
      @TheFLAMEXD Před 3 lety +5

      @@SlavoidUkr It does. Why create terms like husbando and best boy if you don’t use them?

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr Před 3 lety

      @@TheFLAMEXD it was more of a joke response... you know...
      Btw Do people actually use "husbando"? I know it exists, but it's never used

  • @zsolti357
    @zsolti357 Před 3 lety +15

    After watching this video i learnt a few life lessons.
    1- Nero was cool before and he is still is.
    2-You can solve your problems with enough explosions.

  • @trapscancreate5760
    @trapscancreate5760 Před 3 lety +115

    Isn't it implied the Virgil was Sparta's favorite, while Dante was probably closer to Eva. Not that either neglected the other but Virgil is given a sword with the power to separate the human world and demon world. Virgil also was definitely the strongest and more driven out of the two siblings to live up to their fathers legacy. if life played out I have little doubt that Vergil would have been Sparta's successor over Dante.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před 2 lety +40

      While they were kids Vergil didn't even like fighting. It was the trauma of having to kill demons alone to defend himself that began his search for power

    • @AkiraUnger
      @AkiraUnger Před 2 lety +4

      Vergil*

    • @melikaahadian9011
      @melikaahadian9011 Před rokem +1

      @@KaitouKaiju where did you heard that Virgil didn't like fighting

    • @stinkfinga4918
      @stinkfinga4918 Před měsícem

      That's only from 3. Dante was given the Force Edge in the original plot, and Vergil was just a corpse lol

  • @XFG_Official
    @XFG_Official Před 3 lety +82

    I said to myself out loud "I'll lose it if he uses Judgement Cut End to transition from DMC4 to DMC5" and you did exactly that.
    This pleases me greatly

  • @madmaster0015
    @madmaster0015 Před 3 lety +872

    So kids, what have we learned today?
    1. DMC2 is still bad
    2. Capcom really likes making special editions
    3. Capcom really needs to release the definitive versions of DMC reboot, 3, and 5 on pc.
    4. Switch ports are really overpriced
    5. Vergil is awesome

    • @DeeMulaah
      @DeeMulaah Před 3 lety +51

      Capcom should do a complete remake of DMC 2
      start that shit from ground zero and actually make it a good game this time

    • @WaveForceful
      @WaveForceful Před 3 lety +32

      6. PC always gets fucked over.

    • @SaberRexZealot
      @SaberRexZealot Před 3 lety +27

      @@DeeMulaah Or… we could just forget about it and get DMC6

    • @WaveForceful
      @WaveForceful Před 3 lety +29

      @@SaberRexZealot DMC2 has potential as a remake. They can actually make the story coherent and make the combat better/characters.

    • @DeeMulaah
      @DeeMulaah Před 3 lety +20

      @@SaberRexZealot If you ask me, DMC 2 is the kind of situation where a remake should be a discussion
      It's a bad stain on the franchise and the dev who was responsible for it bailed out leaving that garbage with someone else
      They have the skill and potential to turn that around

  • @rakunuki3565
    @rakunuki3565 Před 3 lety +222

    yo thanks for the shoutout man, the modding community loves all the support you guys give

    • @Foxcade
      @Foxcade  Před 3 lety +41

      Thanks for all the work you guys do improving the game and covering up for Capcoms slip ups!

    • @Revolthell
      @Revolthell Před 3 lety +10

      @@Foxcade Amen, also 1:14:03 Nero was a boss in the DMC4 Mobile game Refrain, and they balanced him similarly to 5 Dante's boss by keeping his moves in specific string sets. So by looking at the first attack of a combo string you would know what would come next, and Nero as a boss will never counter any of your moves with Buster UNLESS you're far away and do a charge attack like Stinger etc.
      Mostly likely ran out of time again.

  • @dududu9531
    @dududu9531 Před 3 lety +104

    Excellent video as always. One small correction though: Dante's royal guard in 5SE is always clearly telegraphed. When he's knocked away after a combo, he'd flash red, say "Royal Guard," and begin slowly walking toward you instead of running or teleporting. Then and only then does he use royal guard, so that's your cue to stop attacking and let him approach.
    And even if you accidentally attack him when he's in RG stance, his reflect can still be dodged with a timed trick dodge.
    It's such a good boss fight man

    • @rapidfire9999
      @rapidfire9999 Před 3 lety +13

      The trick I love to call it *ROYAL DODGE!*

  • @valentine7388
    @valentine7388 Před 3 lety +116

    The Woolie pop up sacred the shit outta me

    • @Foxcade
      @Foxcade  Před 3 lety +64

      How do you think I felt?

    • @RileyJ3866
      @RileyJ3866 Před 3 lety +1

      Wait where’s this part at?

    • @shane380
      @shane380 Před 3 lety +3

      @@RileyJ3866
      0:42

  • @MulgarH
    @MulgarH Před 3 lety +120

    About dmc3 Vergil: I agree with the main point about his campaign being reused, Vergil does in fact get his own remixes of Taste the Blood and Divine Hate.
    Divine Hate in particular I prefer to the original because it has more intense guitars and has this really cool start stop pace to it that shows how similar, yet different Vergil is from Dante.

  • @SaberRexZealot
    @SaberRexZealot Před 3 lety +156

    If nothing else I want Casey Edwards to do all of the character themes for DMC6

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Před rokem +10

      ngl i can't imagine dmc without devil trigger and bury the light now, would be hard to get used to even if casey did it

    • @Hedron1027
      @Hedron1027 Před 9 měsíci +3

      If he doesn’t do all of the themes then at least let him do all of Vergil’s themes.

  • @danklord4315
    @danklord4315 Před 3 lety +182

    Despite how the fandom treats dmc reboot its creator seems to actually be fine with it and even embrace it at times, which I appreciate

    • @accelerator5524
      @accelerator5524 Před 2 lety +14

      i love the reboot

    • @sev1120
      @sev1120 Před 2 lety +33

      A lot of people have made the DMC Reboot canon in their own way, by either having DMC Dante be attempting to copy mainline Dante, or by it occurring in a parallel reality.
      After all, the MvC games, and Street Fighter 5 have shown that Capcom has a massive gaming universe/multiverse.
      I'd love it if reboot Dante got re-introduced to the mainline series. Obviously his name would need to change, but that could simply be him using a pseudonym. Maybe reboot Dante would go by Tony Redgrave (like mainline Dante did in his early years)

    • @jeremiahbaugh8195
      @jeremiahbaugh8195 Před 2 lety +13

      @@sev1120 100% wouldn't mind this. DmC Dante is not a bad character at all. It's just he looks like shit because almost every other character was written like shit

    • @HomeNuke
      @HomeNuke Před 2 lety +18

      @@sev1120 for me dmc is just a fever dream dante had after eating a moldy slice of pizza and not having a functional toilet.

    • @kin4386
      @kin4386 Před 2 lety +13

      More than that. Itsuno REALLY likes the Reboot and actually planned to make a sequel.

  • @NoahMonroe_
    @NoahMonroe_ Před 3 lety +62

    5:45 Believe it or not, it's actually even more mundane than that. In the Bloody Palace co-op stream on the main DMC channel that was meant to hype up the Switch release, Matt Walker (translating for Itsuno) said that the reason why they did this was so that no one could just blast through the game in a weekend, due to 3 not being very long. In other words, the years-old "we don't want rentals to kill us" decision.

  • @gatst7680
    @gatst7680 Před 3 lety +159

    Vergil is easily my favorite character to play as for one reason
    Complexity
    He is fun as hell and complex, but not too complex as to make the casual player feel that there's too much to deal with, like Dante can sometimes be like

    • @AmateurAnimations65
      @AmateurAnimations65 Před 2 lety +18

      One of my favorite aspects about Vergil is, of all the video game characters I've ever played as, he's the only one that genuinely feels like he grows stronger and more powerful with each game he makes a playable appearance in. In most games that follow up a character's journey, the character doesn't really feel much stronger, it just feels like they pile on more weapons and powers while also taking some away. But with Vergil, he mostly has all the same weapons and powers, it's just they get fine tuned and perfected with each new appearance and gets a few new abilities. That's not to say other games or characters don't do this, it just feels more clear with Vergil to me.
      DMC3SE establishes the base line for his controls and moveset, from the 3 hit combo he keeps in all of his appearances to his iconic Judgement cut which at this point is just as iconic to vergil as the Yamato. It's ultimately a fairly limited moveset, but those limitations encourage creativity in using his abilities and weapons to the best of their ability.
      DmC may be infamous for just how bad it is especially in story, but it does add things to Vergil that would become staples in his gameplay from here on. Aside from tweaking his overall control a bit and giving him more combos to work with, it also introduces the Perfect Judgement Cut which, while a bit clunky in its first appearance would go on to be one of Vergil's most valuable tools in other appearances. It also introduces the embedded sword mechanic and giving Vergil doppelganger which he would bring back in 5. And for all the crap DmC understandably gets, it is to this day the only game to give Vergil a proper campaign. Not much of a campaign, but still, it's something.
      DMC4SE is where Vergil really started breaking the games he appears in. That's not to say he wasn't cool before, he was just a bit more balanced in 3 and DmC, but here, he just snaps the game in half. Aside from once again improving his controls, this game perfected the perfect judgement cut, gave his summoned swords a bit more utility, and introduced us to the concentration gauge which is just the perfect way to incorporate Vergil's character into his gameplay. It also gave us Judgement Cut End which just gives the finger to any enemy in Vergil's way.
      And finally, DMC5 perfected Vergil's control. From the amazing combos that make each weapon feel like an entire moveset on its own, to the ability to use three perfect judgement cuts back to back, to his little teleport dodges which are the perfect flexing tool for finessing demons, to Judgement Cut End somehow being even cooler along with three other super moves that just obliterate whatever fool stands before you, to having one of the coolest looking Devil Triggers in the series. This Vergil is for people who want to feel like a god among men, he just erases anyone that gets in his path, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
      Playing each of these appearances one after another gives you this feeling like you're actually watching Vergil's journey for power and seeing him go from just a badass swordsman, to one of the most broken videogame characters ever in the context of their own game, and whether you're the one in control or the one at the other end of his sword, you will remember the power of this motivated son of Sparda

  • @Skeledom
    @Skeledom Před 3 lety +216

    Of course Vergil is the one main character in the series to have ever banged, just look at his literal bangs on his head!
    Fantastic video mate. Bloody good job

    • @ihevmilkdhou
      @ihevmilkdhou Před 3 lety +3

      Too bad he doesn't have that in 5/5SE
      And i don't mind it, it fits his "old man' look

    • @Skeledom
      @Skeledom Před 3 lety

      @@ihevmilkdhou would be cool to have it as a costume but you can always mod it in the PC version

    • @ihevmilkdhou
      @ihevmilkdhou Před 3 lety +4

      @@Skeledom yes, i've seen the mod, and its kinda(a little) weird seeing "old man" Vergil with bangs, but personally 5 without bangs fits him well and his age
      Yet he still banged, even without bangs
      and.. he also "bang" a lady b4

    • @desmonides
      @desmonides Před 2 lety +2

      I’m pretty sure Dante deepdicked Lady and Trish raw on the regular

    • @Skeledom
      @Skeledom Před 2 lety

      @@desmonides Dante doesn't know what sex is

  • @bluesyrupgc4224
    @bluesyrupgc4224 Před 3 lety +65

    ‘’Sparda’s second favorite son’’
    I can’t help but feel bad after that sentence

    • @Astarorothstoe
      @Astarorothstoe Před 3 lety +13

      Me too, but I highly doubt he was second favorite

    • @squidwardtentacles244
      @squidwardtentacles244 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Astarorothstoe He was given the yamato.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Před 3 lety +18

      @@Astarorothstoe He definitely was Sparda's favorite for sure, he was much more calm and composed, even as a child he was mature and knew the weight he had to carry ........ the simple fact Sparda gave him Yamato of all things should tell you everything about how much faith he had in him. His mother though, that's a different story

    • @rtiq270
      @rtiq270 Před 2 lety +6

      @@sephikong8323 He got Yamato because he was the oldest I believe.

    • @mercury2157
      @mercury2157 Před 2 lety +16

      @@sephikong8323 Vergil was a daddy's boy, and Dante was a mommy's boy

  • @ReverieExodus
    @ReverieExodus Před 3 lety +97

    Man it feels like not too long ago Foxcade was saying it’s be crazy just to be mentioned by the SBF crew.

    • @hadinasrallah8928
      @hadinasrallah8928 Před 3 lety +1

      Sbf?

    • @pachychon
      @pachychon Před 3 lety +18

      The super best friends, the guy who popped up at the start is woolie, a HUGE fan of Vergil.

    • @DanteV2019
      @DanteV2019 Před 3 lety +6

      @@pachychon SO much of a Vergil fan, I’m sure he nutted when Vergil showed up in DMC5. And technically started the Judgment Nut meme. XD

  • @thetreeboy.
    @thetreeboy. Před 3 lety +23

    Summery: Vergil is motivated by fear of being powerless, or rather is motivated to be powerful so that he never has to be powerless

  • @Z-A-C
    @Z-A-C Před 3 lety +40

    Calling Vergil “Sparda’s second favorite son” hits different. Because it also means that he’s the least favorite. That hurts

  • @ASentientToaster
    @ASentientToaster Před 3 lety +267

    I said "He Fun" a second before you did and it makes me happy that others feel the same about this edgy boy.

  • @Ui_Raizen
    @Ui_Raizen Před 3 lety +19

    The boss when you fight him,the boss when you play as him
    Vergil:”and I took that personally”

  • @Pinkanator
    @Pinkanator Před 3 lety +42

    "Trish's first time in a functional game" ...b-but Mahvel...

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před 2 lety +1

      Dmc4 came out years before MvC 3

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@KaitouKaijushe wasnt playable till AFTER mvc3

  • @TheMrDrProfGamer
    @TheMrDrProfGamer Před 3 lety +290

    You're just gonna casually have Woolie drop by like it's nothing?

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs Před 3 lety +6

      I know not who this Woolie is, but he looks like a scrublord.

    • @aidamou
      @aidamou Před 3 lety +18

      @@maxspecs he’s a pretty cool dude who I a massive fan of both DMC and Vergil.

    • @cezarjulian0320
      @cezarjulian0320 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maxspecs feel bad for you

    • @aethertag1530
      @aethertag1530 Před rokem

      All Canadians know each other

  • @seanhood6902
    @seanhood6902 Před 3 lety +38

    Thr first time i got Royal Released
    Me: " Huh, so thats what that feels like"

  • @gregg_rulz0k824
    @gregg_rulz0k824 Před 3 lety +17

    Dont you just love the way playing as Trish in Bloody Palace goes from the most fun to making you want to throw yourself into the ocean as soon as a blitz shows up?

  • @PlanetNateGaming
    @PlanetNateGaming Před 3 lety +44

    Style is temporary but Motivation is forever
    Split myself in two, death is all around
    two souls once lost and now they remember
    The lyrical contrast here is just breathtaking

  • @Xelae93
    @Xelae93 Před 3 lety +33

    I've been playing SOOOOO much DMC5 lately. Vergil might just be the most fun character ever.

  • @ElijsDima
    @ElijsDima Před 3 lety +21

    It's pretty awesome that fully one third of Vergil's chosen weaponry are a pair of furry boots and gloves.

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 Před rokem

      Are you talking shit about Beowulf? Because nobody talks shit about Beowulf, bub.

  • @kallelindqvist7010
    @kallelindqvist7010 Před 3 lety +20

    Quick correction: The reason why vanilla DMC3 was harder in North America was actually because of gaming rentals, Capcom didn't want players to just burn through the game easily and then return it. The original version of RE4 also had its easy mode removed for America!

  • @androtaz2621
    @androtaz2621 Před 3 lety +19

    'DMC4 Vergil breaks the game over his knee'. I mean.. I see no problem here..

  • @Comkill117
    @Comkill117 Před 3 lety +54

    So is Woolie the new character added to the DMC Retrospective: Special Edition?
    Also: Vergil in 3 gets two remixed battle themes, which is at least better than DMC4 where he got nothing, and DmC where he might as well have got nothing.
    Also also: DmC: Definitive Edition does have one legitimately fantastic addition that I wish 4&5 Special Edition got, Must Style Mode. I’d love to see that come back honestly.

    • @MikeZhu114
      @MikeZhu114 Před 3 lety +6

      Couldnt agreed more, God Must Die mode and Must style mechanic should be added in DMC5SE.

    • @Comkill117
      @Comkill117 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MikeZhu114 Yeah, I forgot about that one but it was another great addition.

  • @darkrai455
    @darkrai455 Před 3 lety +30

    Im shocked he didnt talk about how broken judgement cut is in 5 lmao

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před 3 lety +42

    I love Virgil he’s really awesome and badass and his gameplay is tons of fun.

  • @trikkinikki6843
    @trikkinikki6843 Před 3 lety +6

    I didn't think I would ever hear Vergil described as "bringing forth his inner hot topic twink" or having his ass referring to "cake", but I guess here we are. Great video, I've been into DMC for a little over a month and I've already finished the main story for all the games (except 2 lol). I'll hopefully be catching up on more of your stuff on it!

  • @LilithLonelyHeart
    @LilithLonelyHeart Před 3 lety +11

    Honestly, as you mentioned the fact how much lore behind Vergil "Burry the Light" covers I wish someone made an MV of that song using all the different materials from different sources to represent it well

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Před 3 lety +16

    Vergil looks less like Dante in every DMC game he’s appeared in since DMC3 and more like Nero

  • @ksad96
    @ksad96 Před 3 lety +26

    "A testament to how well he was designed when he was first conceived all the way back during the Bush administration"
    Holy shit that actually made me realize how long it's been.

  • @DAProductions10
    @DAProductions10 Před 3 lety +19

    If Lady was given any sort of way to use melee, it would be super cool if she got a whip. Almost like how Jacque from Onimusha 3 had got an Oni Whip

  • @DualThiessen
    @DualThiessen Před 2 lety +14

    Personally, I always saw Vergil breaking the game as him not holding back. I see Dante as having fun and not really trying so he is playing with his food and styling while going through the story where as Vergil is about ruthless efficiency so he isn’t messing around while going through the story. Dante could break game like Vergil if he wanted to but that wouldn’t be as fun.

    • @letendreelliott8778
      @letendreelliott8778 Před 5 měsíci

      Idk man, there’s only one of them that can 1 shot the other on DMD (in 5) and it ain’t Vergil…

  • @sunnystrathern8396
    @sunnystrathern8396 Před 3 lety +28

    Is that a storm approaching?

  • @TheClarity101
    @TheClarity101 Před 3 lety +10

    I honestly hope that if they ever update this, Lady and Trish get the same update scale as Vergil got. Like you said, Lady is a proof of concept, and could do with being fully realized

    • @spiralgodking9877
      @spiralgodking9877 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, the fact that her and Trish only being playable in 4 is lame...

  • @TechnoSyndro
    @TechnoSyndro Před 3 lety +47

    DmC Vergil's got some cool shit, it's just a shame he's stuck in that awful DLC campaign

    • @bradleyreid4853
      @bradleyreid4853 Před 3 lety +1

      yea i enjoyed Dantes campaign more then Vergil since you would fall off the edges all the time.

    • @TechnoSyndro
      @TechnoSyndro Před 3 lety +8

      @@bradleyreid4853 It's so obnoxious, idk why they thought Vergil constantly having to fight flying enemies on platforms that are like 4 feet across was a good idea

    • @drjcup3228
      @drjcup3228 Před 3 lety +4

      I actually used it as an advantage. I would jump off a ledge, devil grab an enemy, then use the downward sword slash attack to send enemies crashing into the abyss. Useful for harpies and wisps.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 Před 3 lety

      DMC4 In a nutshell

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 Před 3 lety +1

      @Gold Star Gaming Still better then any other western action game at least

  • @TonicSpirits
    @TonicSpirits Před 3 lety +5

    Two small things to mention about your segment of DMC5 SE
    1. Vergil's Trick Dodge has longer recovery and gaps in i-frames by default, BUT if you time the dodge just before an attack hits, Vergil can chain multiple Trick Dodges with no gaps in i-frames, much like Nero's Table Hopper. Except unlike Nero, Vergil can chain as many dodges as he wants lol. Great for building Concentration and DT as well.
    2. When fighting him as Vergil, Dante counterattacks with Royal Revenge, not Royal Release. And on top of it being possible to dodge the reprisal with good timing, the slowdown when Dante activates Royal Revenge helps telegraph the incoming attack. In some cases, you can even use it to your advantage by deliberately activating Dante's Royal Revenge and attacking after dodging it (though I don't think Dante will be in hitstun).

  • @salem2772
    @salem2772 Před 3 lety +8

    Given how I rewatched the entire retrospective recently, this was a treat. Great work Fox.

  • @tsuaririndoku
    @tsuaririndoku Před rokem +3

    Still I love the “Easy Mode is now available” They should kept that tbh.

  • @murasama6960
    @murasama6960 Před 3 lety +7

    ""Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness. Might controls everything. And without strength you can not protect anything. Let alone yourself.""

  • @Lkjhgfvf
    @Lkjhgfvf Před 3 lety +5

    The lack of comments about the transition at 4:04 is criminal. Super well done.

  • @Not_An_EV
    @Not_An_EV Před 3 lety +2

    Man your Devil May Cry videos are my favourite videos about this series on CZcams. I freaking love every single one! Thank you for all the time and effort it takes to make these I appreciate it so much and I'm sure many others do too!

  • @mengo329
    @mengo329 Před rokem +3

    16:09 Vergil does get his own battle themes, remixes of Dante's themes from the main game. Sure it's no bury the light situation but it's definitely his own.
    Also Vergil's divine hate is easily my favorite DMC battle theme.
    Also yeah i realized I'm 2 years late and you've probably heard this 150 times

  • @JwayT
    @JwayT Před 3 lety +5

    Vergil an awesome playable character but it's long overdue for him to have his own levels.

  • @eddibonoit
    @eddibonoit Před 3 lety +9

    I didn’t expect to be motivated today, thanks bro.

  • @a.z.pantera5577
    @a.z.pantera5577 Před 3 lety +10

    Capcom will always make sure we know this devil's power!

  • @TonyRedgrave-of9od
    @TonyRedgrave-of9od Před 3 lety +11

    This video was worth the wait, thanks a bunch! I'm sure we don't need to wait another decade for a video game since DMC5 ended the saga and served as a finale which I'm fine with it ending the series(still no ladies night spin-off game but I guess I can try to be okay with it). The modders had already made PvP and literally everything to make the game look a lot better than Capcom's snarky decision-making, so there's no worries here. Vergil is truly a fan-favourite of the series with his technical gameplay as if you feel like Vergil, and 5 did a great job at that than in 3SE, in my opinion.

  • @austinskywalker92
    @austinskywalker92 Před 3 lety +5

    Now this was quite the video to watch, all about Vergil, I like playing as him myself and his theme, bury the Light.....SO FUCKING AMAZING! Casey that genius deserves a lot of credit for making it.
    Love it, another great analysis video on a series I love. No telling what will come next for devil may cry but I look forward to the next chapter.

  • @ImDaRealBoi
    @ImDaRealBoi Před 3 lety +5

    I just hope that if Lady's Night DLC somehow comes to fruition, Nico and maybe even Lucia can be utilized more, nico can be their new gunsmith, and I just wanna see lucia not casted into the heartless sea.

  • @furious_malic7808
    @furious_malic7808 Před 3 lety +7

    A hour long vid discussing the gameplay of special editions and playable Vergil’s evolution on Valentine’s Day? This makes me “motivated” 😎.

  • @amosdeguzman9980
    @amosdeguzman9980 Před 3 lety +9

    Vergil was playable in a non-rerelease before. He was in Project X Zone 2. Granted, that was a sequel, but it's still the only version of the game.

  • @LuckiSir
    @LuckiSir Před 3 lety +8

    I’ll always appreciate Devil May Cry, it’s such a special title in my eyes
    It’s definitely got flaws but I can speak for many that it’s the greatest character-action game ever

  • @SuperHornetA51
    @SuperHornetA51 Před 2 lety +2

    The reason why we couldn't fight Nero is because Nero can't lose. It would just be Mission 19 again where you "beat" Vergil but "lose" in the cutscene.

  • @BULLET_J3ST3R
    @BULLET_J3ST3R Před 2 lety +4

    I learned recently that if you consecutively do perfect judgement cut, Vergil actually says Jackpot 😁
    This especially is nice character trait that makes me love Vergil despite him refusing to say it in the end cutscene.

  • @InvaderKaz2008
    @InvaderKaz2008 Před 3 lety +9

    Woolie ain't paying you to talk about how sick Vergil is unless you surpass that one hour mark GOD DAMN YOU.

  • @SomeAustrianGuy_
    @SomeAustrianGuy_ Před 2 lety +14

    I really can't describe how much I love Vergil. I always loved the more serious, brutal characters. From Aiden Pearce to Alex Mercer or from DoomGuy to Vergil, I love them all.
    Also, Vergil's moveset as a whole is just so goddamn satisfying, and as the man said himself, it just gets better after every entry.
    So, let's just put it like this, Dante may be the game's main character, but goddamn Vergil is the stories main character.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Před rokem +1

    I love how he said at the end of the DMC5 retrospective that it might be his last DMC video for a long time, and then he did another one less than a year later.

  • @robinvmars6191
    @robinvmars6191 Před 3 lety +1

    Aight you NEED to be made aware, as often as necessary, of the fact that 1hr+ of Vergil and DMC talk is a luscious treat for fans of the series.
    You have a way of working nuance into your delivery that prevents it from feeling like a copout and only makes me excited about the details you might've missed/skipped in your presentation. (e.g. your point on Royal Guard, which includes a special slowmo effect and is limited to the weaker version of Dante's gameplay for balance).
    And those 2 things are VERY praiseworthy.

  • @MariusUrucu
    @MariusUrucu Před 3 lety +10

    76 minites of M O T I V A T I O N.
    LET'S GOOOOOOO.

  • @Garry_Combine
    @Garry_Combine Před 3 lety +1

    This is pretty good, I like these retrospectives because you explains mechanics I'll never be good at, but love to learn about anyways. Plus you're so passionate about everything you talk about it's hard to not want to listen.

  • @Luciferi4n
    @Luciferi4n Před 3 lety +2

    A DMC2 remake with the bloody palace as it was with some improvement/moder gameplay combos and such would be grea especially when it has some double boss battkes that we have only seen in mods for the newer games.

  • @CaptViewtiful98
    @CaptViewtiful98 Před 2 lety +4

    For avoiding getting clapped by Royal Guard release, when he says “Royal Guard” wait for him to strike than counter attack. If you do activate his release a well timed trick dodge will save you.

  • @Sonofavenger
    @Sonofavenger Před 3 lety +6

    For what it's worth, DMC: Devil May Cry was my first DMC game. And, for what it's worth, I enjoyed it.

    • @lordderp6914
      @lordderp6914 Před 3 lety +1

      Go check out Hyve mind he was was in the same position playing the reboot first and really liking it

  • @alseid8709
    @alseid8709 Před 3 lety +6

    Imma put a target on myself but: Bury the Light is a prime example of that Metal By Numbers skit.

    • @dahliahb.7111
      @dahliahb.7111 Před 3 lety +7

      I mean sure, but pizza is just dough sauce and cheese, follow a guide and it'll still taste amazing 🤷‍♀️

    • @Jacob_G9
      @Jacob_G9 Před 3 lety

      Maybe, but GOD does is still SLAP

  • @DanielSantosAnalysis
    @DanielSantosAnalysis Před 3 lety +5

    THIS IS THE POWER OF SPARDA
    Great video my dude!

  • @treetheoak8313
    @treetheoak8313 Před 3 lety +3

    Long story short. Dmc5 was the game we didn't deserve. But needed.

  • @sengiko
    @sengiko Před 3 lety +3

    All I can say is that pulling an SSS when I use Sin Devil Trigger and the chorus kicks in...oh boy, that is some fire

  • @liammaloney13
    @liammaloney13 Před 3 lety +2

    Minor correction. LDK is technically not a special edition only feature for DMC4. The PC version of vanilla came with it as a selling point. It also had turbo mode.

  • @gobitan6994
    @gobitan6994 Před 3 lety +3

    Everyone's motivated about Woolie (myself included) while I'm here surprised and wondering if this 1:04:40 was Punk Duck. Great video btw!

  • @Hollow_Specter117
    @Hollow_Specter117 Před 3 lety +10

    My motivation shot up to 200% when I saw the noti

  • @JoshGolus
    @JoshGolus Před 3 lety +14

    God, I wish I had someone in my life who shared half as much passion in this stuff as you do, Fox.

  • @davidriggs6964
    @davidriggs6964 Před 3 lety +11

    Bury the Light motivated me to look up Vergil lore.

  • @ravencollins5638
    @ravencollins5638 Před 3 lety +5

    Can we just agree that 2005 is a certified hood classic at this point

  • @one1virtuoso
    @one1virtuoso Před 2 lety +3

    I just noticed and I am immediately obsessed with the Jackpot scene. Not only did Vergil DEFINITELY try to hit Dante to stop him, Dante knew that shit was coming and dodged it just ending it with both of them playing off the sudden violence so smoothly.

  • @suchayandas6136
    @suchayandas6136 Před 3 lety +16

    You can cover the manga and novels now

  • @DestinySpider
    @DestinySpider Před 3 lety +2

    This was an incredible video. Really glad to see this series hadn't been quite over. Fantastic work across the board. Your editing proves itself top notch as usual.
    I don't really agree that concentration is a good mechanic tho, because intentionally whiffing attacks for stylish movement is something that is extremely fun to do and something which allows for a lot of creativity within DMC. Concentration punishes you for doing so.
    Also little correction. The Dante bossfight in 5 only has him do Royal Revenge. Royal Release would be unreactable and have him explode through you in an instant, most likely killing you in the process. Revenge in 5 you can relatively easily just dodge out of the way of, especially since anytime he's about to do it there's a big slowdown effect. It really isn't that bad. Personally I think it would have been cooler if he could also royal release you, as I believe he does in 4, but that'd just be unfair so nevermind.
    And quick tip. Trick cancels are good, but they still have traveltime and don't look too good. If you wanna repeatedly link Lunar Phase it's probably better to simply do it using JCs. Flows a lot more nicely

  • @Pokechao
    @Pokechao Před 3 lety +2

    I've never thought about remapping the summon swords to a shoulder trigger. I'm going to have to try that, also Vergil in DMC3 did actually have his own variation on battle themes with remixes of both Taste the Blood and Divine Hate

  • @DrRichardzz
    @DrRichardzz Před 3 lety +4

    15:44 slight correction, both "Taste the Blood" and "Divine Hate" have new remixes when playing as Vergil. Unless you play both characters one after the other in a short timespan, though, i can't blame anyone for missing that detail.

  • @AlexGreat321
    @AlexGreat321 Před 3 lety +25

    How is it the reboot game is the only one that gave Virgil an original campaign?

    • @ultimamage3
      @ultimamage3 Před 3 lety +4

      How is it that DMC fans have had to wait/pay for Bloody Palace, and pay extra money to repeat the campaign with a different character when DMC2 did that for free in the same disc?

    • @AlexGreat321
      @AlexGreat321 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ultimamage3 wait what game was that?

    • @zffrailgun1630
      @zffrailgun1630 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ultimamage3 Those two have nothing to do with each other. How many characters did DMC2 have again? 3. How many does DMC5 have (for free)? 3. Would you look at that, it's the same amount. Massive difference being that all characters (including Vergil) are unique in their own way, unlike DMC2 where they're almost identical. Also, you're paying 5 bucks for new content that the devs worked on, it's a fair trade especially for 5 bucks. As for BP, you're being absurd. They obviously hadn't finished it by the time the game had to launch, so they delayed it till it was ready. Do you want unfinished/broken stuff or not? Cause most of us sure as hell don't.

    • @soliduswasright678
      @soliduswasright678 Před 3 lety +1

      DmC's Vorgil campaign was hot garbage though.

    • @ultimamage3
      @ultimamage3 Před 3 lety +3

      @@zffrailgun1630 Someone pissed in your cereal or something? I still made a true statement. DMC2 is the last time there was a functioning Bloody Palace on disc _and_ you didn't have to _pay extra money_ to retread a campaign with a bonus character. You just unlocked Trish by playing and that was it. DMC3 Special Edition? Pay extra money for Vergil to repeat Dante's missions with two bonus cutscenes. DMC4 Special Edition? Pay extra money for Lady&Trish/Vergil to repeat Dante/Nero's missions with two bonus cutscenes. DMC5 Special Edition? Pay extra money for Vergil to repeat the cast's missions, with bonus cutscenes. DMC3 Special Edition is even the first and last time the Special Edition was built and released for the same console generation as the vanilla version. Every other SE was the next generation over. You can get pissed off and defensive about it to justify Capcom's nickel-and-diming the fanbase with content you can get from PC mods, but that doesn't make it any less true.

  • @drjcup3228
    @drjcup3228 Před 3 lety +7

    I miss the downward slash attack that Vergil does as a follow-up to Yamato’s Upper Slash in DMC3. I wish they found a way to keep it in his later iterations.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před 2 lety +1

      It's in his pause combo with Yamato

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 Před 3 lety +5

    we still dont have a proper character select. Such a shame since V pretty much shaves off 2 points of the score. Its a 10 hour long game .. plz let us play it with our fav character.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 Před 2 lety +5

    We. Need. A. Vergil. Scenario. Not a copy paste campaign.