Building a GMRS Repeater For Personal or SHTF PART1 - Repeater Build with Two Wouxun KG-1000G Radios

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  • čas přidán 20. 04. 2021
  • Part 1 - Planning on building my high-power GMRS repeater for personal or SHTF use, using two Wouxun KG-1000G 50Watt GMRS mobile radios.
    Products I will be using to build my homemade GMRS repeater:
    Wouxun KG-1000G GMRS radio:
    www.buytwowayradios.com/wouxu...
    Tram 1486 UHF base antenna (i still use this antenna in 2024!):
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    30AMP 12V DC Power Supply:
    www.buytwowayradios.com/tyt-d...
    GMRS Duplexer:
    www.buytwowayradios.com/xlt-d...
    Jackery 1000 Solar Generator:
    amzn.to/3dDM7og
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Komentáře • 419

  • @ad8916
    @ad8916 Před 3 lety +61

    Great, now I want to put a repeater at my house! 🙂

  • @rustygunner8282
    @rustygunner8282 Před 3 lety +90

    This looks like fun and I will be following it. My wife overheard “project” and gave me the death glare, so I’m pretty sure I’ll be building one myself at some point ;)

    • @ekbanjosworld4926
      @ekbanjosworld4926 Před 3 lety +4

      Ya have to now ! She threw down the gauntlet !!! Just start an argument, that way you can justify it 😁

    • @nevadabadger7925
      @nevadabadger7925 Před rokem +2

      Challenge accepted!

  • @WonderMonkeyRadio
    @WonderMonkeyRadio Před 4 měsíci +6

    I know you have already completed your build and have started (and maybe finished) another build, but I'm going down this path and will greatly enjoy following along and learning your lessons. Thanks for the videos.

  • @audioslaver22
    @audioslaver22 Před 3 lety +37

    Yes please! Been considering this exact setup since learning two KG-1000’s can be setup as a repeater. Can’t wait.

  • @Pipefitter310
    @Pipefitter310 Před 3 lety +18

    Every time I see a new video from your channel I klick the LIKE 👍 BUTTON. You don’t post CRAP, thanks....

  • @Yugo-CA
    @Yugo-CA Před rokem +3

    I am going to build this exact system, I will start ordering after I watch all these videos. Love your channel. If all hams made videos like yours (EASY TO UNDERSTAND) I bet more people would be hams.

  • @greghershberger2791
    @greghershberger2791 Před měsícem +1

    I love the "I'll be cured". We all know there is no cure

  • @inthso362
    @inthso362 Před rokem +2

    *Finally!* Someone on YT saying, "I'll be doing something dangerous, and I'll show you how." instead of the standard, "Don't try this at home!"

  • @Fifty1Romeo
    @Fifty1Romeo Před 23 dny

    Randy. The number to call for utilities is 8-1-1. It's law before digging, to include driving a ground rod. I hope this helps

  • @SevenFortyOne
    @SevenFortyOne Před 3 lety +3

    I'm looking forward to seeing this project unfold! I don't know much about repeaters either so it will be interesting to see how you go through the process and what you learn along the way.

  • @wjf213
    @wjf213 Před 3 lety +3

    I've been looking into this myself the past few weeks. Not so much the regs, but just the equipment. I'm really looking forward to this project. Keep up the great work.

  • @larrywilliamson7227
    @larrywilliamson7227 Před 3 lety +14

    Thanks for putting this together. I live in a very rural area where cell coverage isn't the best and we also suffer from a fair bit of hilly terrain. Fortunately we have some of the high ground and you are addressing the exact SHTF scenario we are wanting to address.

  • @cb4x4
    @cb4x4 Před 3 lety +3

    Ok.....I'll admit, Ive watched a couple of these videos from you, and Im learning more than I ever thought I would! Thank you! I had no idea you could build your own repeater!

  • @SilentPrepperFL
    @SilentPrepperFL Před 2 lety

    You are in the process of answering all the questions I had regarding setting up a repeater for GMRS. I want to set one up here since we don't have one in our area... THANK YOU!!!!

  • @bnic304
    @bnic304 Před 2 lety

    This is a great project. I am looking forward to following your progress. In the near future I will be putting up a GMRS repeater on my house. Sir you rock!

  • @TS-my9yq
    @TS-my9yq Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve been wrestling with the idea, so I’ll be looking forward to seeing how you make out. Good luck! You got this!

  • @sirbeck58
    @sirbeck58 Před 3 lety +2

    YESSS!!! Thank you for doing this! My buddies and I have been wanting to build one, so this is going to be a great series!!!

  • @jtlerch
    @jtlerch Před 3 lety +3

    Very cool! This is something I've been considering myself as there are ZERO repeaters around here. I will be watching your progress closely.

  • @gregsavernik3650
    @gregsavernik3650 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome Randy! I ran into a sad ham discussing repeaters in a GMRS FB page...not a good experience so I want to thank you for your great content! Keep it up!

  • @stephengardner4186
    @stephengardner4186 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the videos on the repeater build, I am going to do the same thing in the very near future. Actually may do a few of them, like the radios you used and the whole setup, you took a lot of the guess work out of it for me. Like yourself I was bitten by the CB thing way back in the early 70's you have restarted it for me now, so here we go. Where I live here in Maine as far as my research has gone there are almost none in my neck of the woods, which is a lot of woods. I think I can do a really good thing, be the model citizen thing you talk about, just because it's fun. Actually I think I can find a pile of people that would take advantage of it for sure, again thanks love your videos.

  • @skypilot0077
    @skypilot0077 Před 3 lety +31

    First off, let me apologize to you for my rude comments in your other videos. I was a little harsh on you and it was not necessary. I was also incorrect in regards to the removable antenna issue. I'm sorry for all that. Please accept my apologies.
    Anyone that wants to jump into this hobby and put up a repeater is ok in my book regardless of their feelings towards their baofeng radios. It's hard for me to sit by and see folks make critical mistakes when putting together a repeater project. So I offer my help, take it or leave it. I've had a few repeaters with long feed lines on top of water towers, regular towers, buildings, and even in the top of a very tall tree. Been down this road a few times.
    Your antenna system (duplexer, patch cables, feed line and antenna) is the MOST important part of the repeater system, period. The hole idea is to get as much of the 50 watts to the antenna. The higher the frequency in use is, the more loss you will have per foot of feed line. That is why feed line at UHF frequencies is so important. Don't go cheap on feed line, you will regret it. I would not recommend LMR400 for repeater use. For duplex systems the double shield of aluminum foil and copper braid is a problem. RG214 double shield is 2 layers of copper braid and is ok for duplex setups such as repeaters. Anything less and you're going to have substantial loses in the feed line. Hardline is best but very expensive. Also type N feed line connectors for everything are much better than PL259 type, especially at UHF and above. You may loose a few dB over all with the PL259 type connectors.
    Make sure your duplexer is professionally tuned to the frequency you choose. If not there will be a ton of loss in the duplexer and very little power will make it to the antenna. Even if you're off by a channel (25KHz) it will be very bad for performance. It needs to be spot on frequency. I have no experience with this particular duplexer you listed but I've used other flat pack duplexers before with good results. You mileage may vary.
    You already have the antenna so up up and away with it I suppose. If that doesn't work out for you I had one of these Comet CA712EFC antennas up on a water tower for 8 years 1/8 mile away from the Atlantic ocean. It survived super storm Sandy. It now resides on top of a 75 foot tree in my back yard.
    www.theantennafarm.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=191_193_258_976_250_1096&products_id=1085
    As for antenna grounding, there are books as thick as an encyclopedia for this. In a nut shell if you add a ground rod for this antenna it will need to be bonded to your existing grounding system that your electrical panel is grounded too. If not very bad things will happen if you take a lighting strike and your home owners insurance may not be happy if they discover some like this. Also your coax outer shield needs to be grounded to this same point before the cable enters your house.
    Good luck with the project. I'll keep an eye out for updates and offer up anything useful.

    • @harrywernsman9045
      @harrywernsman9045 Před 2 lety +13

      It takes a big and intelligent person to apologize for anything. I tip my hat to you sir. You have more courage then 99% of the other folks out there. You have a nice day.

    • @jasonbrown467
      @jasonbrown467 Před 2 lety +2

      This dude irritated me in the beginning, but he has grown on me. I appreciate his approach to sharing info and have learned a lot from this channel. He is about where I can see my self in a year or two, with regards to his radio kno ledge and then I'm done and moving onto my next obsession lol

    • @adventuresofhunter
      @adventuresofhunter Před rokem

      Dude is subscribed to Milf mom 55 😂😂

  • @MrCCW26
    @MrCCW26 Před 3 lety +1

    I’d also like to set up a repeater since there aren’t any in my area. This seems like a great way to do it. All the considerations you talked about are important but expensive. Seems like a grand or more to set up something basic. Love your GMRS videos!

  • @martirjd
    @martirjd Před 3 lety

    Hello Randy. Your video has impeccable timing. I have been watching your last few GMRS videos that you've made. Good videos. I have decided to use GMRS for SHTF purposes. Good timing 'cause I really want to put up a repeater to be a pillar for my community. Funny how you said what I was thinking. You described me really well. I guess I am more typical than what I thought. I have some of the exact same questions that you posed. I just ordered a Wouxun 1000G last week but its currently back ordered. I have already received my 23 amp power supply. As soon as I have more money available I will order me a second radio. I am also figuring this out as I go along. I will be looking forward to your next few videos as you put this thing together.

  • @Briumph
    @Briumph Před 3 lety +1

    Very interested in this topic. It was one of the main reasons that my first GMRS mobile/base purchase was the Wouxon (pronounced o-shun?) KG-1000G. Love your radio videos and your communication style.

  • @OneFearOffroad
    @OneFearOffroad Před 8 měsíci +1

    I am new to GMRS world. This is interesting to me and may at some point put up a repeater. Right now I just have a couple handhelds and I can't seem to get out with them from my home. For sure going to watch this series. Thank you for doing it.

  • @caseyblackwood5138
    @caseyblackwood5138 Před 3 lety

    I have been watching your videos, I live in Florida and just getting into GMRS radio mainly for side x side use just wanted to say thank you for sharing.

  • @walterwagner2629
    @walterwagner2629 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video Randy, can’t wait to follow along.

  • @montanaskunk67
    @montanaskunk67 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m new to repeaters, here in Montana there isn’t to many around. I’m watching this to start a repeater here for the public to use. Any help
    I can find will help out, so thank you for putting some information out to get started. With kids and adults using GMRS more I think where we live this will help out the community out a lot. Keep up the good work!!

  • @ChrisRomp
    @ChrisRomp Před 3 lety +1

    Nice to hear they're integrating the ID-o-Matic. Interested to see that.

  • @mikegentile5030
    @mikegentile5030 Před 3 lety

    I’m so excited I found your videos. I really looking forward to more gmrs information especially a repeater set up.

  • @vicrod74
    @vicrod74 Před 9 dny

    I would invest in a better higher gain antenna. But for testing the waters your setup is perfect.

  • @TomRolfson
    @TomRolfson Před rokem +3

    Another great video. IF this works (I know it will) it looks like a very viable option for many local groups/MAGs. Will be following the series of videos. If closer I'd gladly go to up on roof/tower for you. I love looking to see how many fars my LOS goes from up there.

  • @admiralbeatty6083
    @admiralbeatty6083 Před 3 lety

    Posts are great! Already have 4 other friends hooked. Content is funny and useful. Doing the same project for same reason. Thank you!!

  • @bah5310
    @bah5310 Před 3 lety +6

    Looks like a fun project. I'm putting "build your own repeater" on my bucket list.

  • @keithguiste2659
    @keithguiste2659 Před 3 lety +2

    I wish i could give multiple thumbs up😊 this is something I am VERY interested in and it seems the only videos other folks have are the"slap 2 bao fengs together" variety

  • @ninhtam
    @ninhtam Před 3 lety

    I am new to GMRS radio. Been watching your channel. Informative. Cant wait to see part II of this video. Exciting project. Thanks. Randy.

  • @stevederjones7340
    @stevederjones7340 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m new to GMRS but have learned a lot watching your videos. I’m also going to build a base station. Later on I’m going to build a couple portable simplex repeaters that way we can extend the range in our area. I will be using the ADS-SR1 simplex repeater. I’m not going to power it with a 12volt . That way it can be moved more easily. As conditions are needed .
    Of course this is for SHTF backup communication

  • @Craigeek
    @Craigeek Před 3 lety

    Nice! Excited to hear what you find out about the FCC rules on repeaters!

  • @oldladyme
    @oldladyme Před 3 lety

    Good job, good equipment makes a nice quality project, thank you for your time

  • @LCARAHAMRadio
    @LCARAHAMRadio Před 3 lety +1

    Good luck on your repeater build project! LCARA Ham Radio

  • @BrigetteSinging
    @BrigetteSinging Před 3 lety +2

    THIS IS AWESOME! There are no repeaters in my area and I was thinking of doing something like this. I also have a high roof I won’t get up on. An antenna in the attic sounds like an interesting alternative.

  • @Fortigeek
    @Fortigeek Před 3 lety +1

    Looking forward to this series. Nice work and very curious about the IDOM

  • @georgegardner1500
    @georgegardner1500 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice. Can't wait for the build. I'd like to build one myself.

  • @michaelt.3805
    @michaelt.3805 Před 3 lety

    Excited about you doing this project, Randy. I would offer my knowledge, but I have none, lol. Buy I look forward to all the videos that you will be making for this project. Thanks for all the great videos.

  • @Dudebroski1
    @Dudebroski1 Před 3 lety

    Man I’m so excited you are doing this! I 2 have been waiting for someone to take the KGs & turn them into a repeater. I’ll be watching and hopefully get doing the same if all goes well.

  • @bdsurfer13
    @bdsurfer13 Před 2 lety

    Just came across your channel, and yes, I'm looking to build a repeater, very mountainous in my area, gonna need to build relationships for multiple people to get on board with to he GMRS shtf issues that may come our way.

  • @billybadass411thefirst9

    I have been looking into this as well. I’ll be learning what I can from your experience.
    Thanks!

  • @Sevendeucegroup
    @Sevendeucegroup Před 2 lety

    Probably past tense here… But this is exactly what I’m trying to do thank you for walking through it and saving me a bunch of grief aggravation and money… Best channel on the Internet hands-down… There are a lot of douche bags in the radio community getting way too technical… I have spent hours sifting through all the jargon until I found you… We are setting up a 30 mile range small security force GMRS Network. This is exactly what I need thank you

  • @hemitj
    @hemitj Před 2 lety

    YES! This is very interesting to me. Looking forward to this build! I've looked at the GMRS websight and there are no repeaters close to me

  • @HewesNews
    @HewesNews Před 3 lety +14

    Some thoughts:
    1. Don't overlook the usefulness of hose clamps, PVC pipe, and conduit for antenna mounting. I have stuff mounted to vent pipes on my roof.
    2. Belden 9913 is close to LMR 400 in terms of loss and a bit less expensive. If you have long run, the lower loss cable is a worthwhile investment and tends to take the weather better. I use this for a 100 foot run for my VHF/UHF radio to my rooftop antenna.
    3. You already have a power supply so this might be a bit late for you, but here's how I power my radios in my ham shack: A large group 27 auto battery is connected to a float charger plugged into the wall. The two radios connect to the battery (12 volts) using Anderson PowerPoles on a strip, but this can be accomplished several ways, even ring terminals. The point is you are always on battery backup, and that big honkin' $175 battery from the price club will usually far outlast the Jackery, because you are only paying for the battery, not the built-in inverter etc. on the Jackery. Battery is always charging. When the power goes out, your repeater radios never miss a beat. Just a thought.
    4. You may have already thought of this but check around to see what channels and tones other nearby repeaters are on, just so you know what to avoid. I would suggest using tones, if for no other reason than to reduce interference, and you never know when a signal will catch a ride on an atmospheric anomaly and travel over from three states away, even for a few minutes.

    • @ewicky
      @ewicky Před 2 lety

      Radios like the KG-1000G only put out full power when fed a full 13.8 VDC. In other words, they are designed to be run off a "12 volt" alternator, not a "12 volt" battery. A good trickle charger won't produce the current or voltage required to maintain 13.8 VDC to the radio. Instead, a better solution is a solid 13.8 VDC power supply fed by wherever you can get power, such as generator, solar, Jackery, 12 volt inverter, etc.

    • @seikibrian8641
      @seikibrian8641 Před rokem

      If the transmit side of the repeater only puts out 40 Watts instead of 50, or even only 25, would that really be a problem? With a large antenna mounted high on a roof, that is in turn on a house on a hill, line of sight limitations are more likely to be the range limiter rather than output power I would think.

  • @jamieflanery7267
    @jamieflanery7267 Před 3 lety

    You said JEEP! I like you already... We are currently getting our Jeep club up and running on GMRS and came across your channel watching radio reviews! Thank you for taking time to do this channel! :) Much Appreciated

    • @TheNotaRubicon
      @TheNotaRubicon  Před 3 lety +1

      If you look through some of our older videos you'll see a couple of Jeep videos.. or search youtube for "in4LO", which are some of our more fun Jeep videos..

  • @bcoorough
    @bcoorough Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing. Really New to GMRS and your videos are very helpful.

  • @jims408
    @jims408 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice! Looking forward to learning how to do this.

  • @philipmccorkle6766
    @philipmccorkle6766 Před 3 lety +1

    Thinking about doing this as well. Waiting on video #2

  • @MrMorbo420
    @MrMorbo420 Před 2 lety +1

    I have built a ham-o-can repeater in the last few weeks. it has been a fun project. it can run off of LiPO batteries for a few hours but can accept power from 12-32V and has a 120V AC PSU. the radio is regulated at 13.8V so it always has the the right power to run it.

  • @coolgirlz102
    @coolgirlz102 Před 3 lety

    Like your content, always informative and funny. I'm a ham and stepped up to GMRS. Even paid the 70$ though they are dropping it to 35$...any day now. Hope to be out on the trail this weekend.

  • @nevadabadger7925
    @nevadabadger7925 Před rokem

    Greetings from Reno, Nevada.
    I am really enjoying your content.

  • @adambatchelder4121
    @adambatchelder4121 Před 3 lety +2

    Ya go for it, I've built a amo can repeater with a baofeng and a parrot box, got my solar and battery set up and antenna all figured out and now my next step was going to be what you are doing. I could send you pictures of my set up if you want.

  • @DWJCHRC-
    @DWJCHRC- Před 3 lety

    good day sir, i like watching your videos and learn about anything regarding radio. 73

  • @AmberWhiskeyRGS
    @AmberWhiskeyRGS Před měsícem

    Wow, all good questions as I'm in the same boat.
    Although a HAM, I'm leaning more to the GMRS for family and friends as mentioned.
    Thanks for the video and those to follow up on this subject.
    73's LOL 😁

  • @jamesmichaelwoods2930
    @jamesmichaelwoods2930 Před 3 lety +1

    looking forward to this series.

  • @markwagner7814
    @markwagner7814 Před 3 lety

    Great stuff, really looking forward to the series.

  • @titusthegreat7434
    @titusthegreat7434 Před 3 lety +1

    Can’t wait to see how it goes. I still got 2 kg1000gs still in the box.

  • @grayphox1848
    @grayphox1848 Před 3 lety

    Randy! You are the man! Love you videos !!!!

  • @dkane0026
    @dkane0026 Před 3 lety

    Well you got a subscribe out of me. I am a ham operator with a general class license and also have a GMRS license. I have been researching building my own GMRS repeater for a while now. I have a few components and a general idea of how I want to build it but my thought was to make it portable so I could use it at home or on camping trips etc.
    One thing you definitely want is to put a ctcss or dcs tone on the repeater so that it isn't just keyed up by anyone that happens to be on the particular GMRS frequency that your repeater is using.
    I look forward to seeing how the build goes

  • @levymurdaugh3501
    @levymurdaugh3501 Před 3 lety +1

    This video was perfect timing. Not to make your head any bigger, but great job as always. I am currently doing the same at my house for family. The ability to use an HT with rubber duck antenna from inside the house (Wife) to my mobile in the field (Me with the Ants and Bugs) All I can suggest to what you are doing, is check the duty cycle of the radios, the lenght and loss of your coax selection, because of the difficulty to change later, and proper grounding of all the antenna componets. National Electric Code for your area might prove to be a chore. Looking forward to more on you progress. Thanks

  • @thatonetimeatbandcamp

    I'm in Irvine and can hit your repeater. Just earlier today I was listening to a few people have a conversation on it. I'm new to GMRS(recently licensed) and didn't want to interrupt their conversation, but one day if someone asks for any mic checks or asks if theres anyone listening, I'll speak up!

  • @uMalice
    @uMalice Před 3 lety

    I can't wait for the repeater build. I need one in my area so badly! Sub'd and tuned in.

  • @brennengooby
    @brennengooby Před 3 lety +7

    Sweet I've been hoping you would make a video about building a repeater and what do I find today.

  • @rsutter100
    @rsutter100 Před 2 lety

    Thanks again, for the great video, very informative and helpful!

  • @consultantrx
    @consultantrx Před 2 lety

    New to all this. Great info. Keep up the great job by sharing. Thanks

  • @blackswampcustoms3957
    @blackswampcustoms3957 Před 3 lety

    I’m definitely interested in learning how to build a repeater. Been considering this for awhile now

  • @jpabon18
    @jpabon18 Před 3 lety

    Indeed... Please do! We're with you.

  • @NoName-OG1
    @NoName-OG1 Před 3 lety

    Was not a subscriber to your channel until last week- but have seen your channel a bit over the years...
    I also am a Jeeper - and spotted your rig in a parking lot once - at a grocery store outside Fresno like 3 years ago... I imagine you were doing the same thing I was - stocking up last minute stuff for a trip. Or getting something cold after one.

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness Před 3 lety +4

    The repeater doesn't need to ID itself as long as the users are identifying themselves by callsigns.
    Most hams put IDs on their repeaters to discourage use of that freq for simplex users.

    • @rolandweaver7983
      @rolandweaver7983 Před 3 lety +1

      RGR That. I’m thinking it’d be a good idea to do it... (the auto ID thing) just so other people would hear it and know that channel (would) already have an operational repeater on that channel / frequency. It’d be your ID.

  • @RandomWire107
    @RandomWire107 Před 3 lety

    Very cool! I’m thinking of building one too.

  • @Nanci43
    @Nanci43 Před 3 lety

    I would like to have a portable system. I’ll be following you on the journey. Thanks for doing this.

  • @jaynfree671
    @jaynfree671 Před rokem

    This is GREAT! I have been thinking about this for some time.

  • @ChuckRowe
    @ChuckRowe Před 2 lety

    I love this video! I would love to do this exact project, but don't have that kind of cash at the moment. Awesome info, though. I live in Phoenix, but my in-laws live in Rancho, so we travel out that way now and again. Hopefully I will have renewed my GMRS license by the next time I'm out that way. Would love to check out the action on that repeater. Great job, Randy.

  • @wildbill989
    @wildbill989 Před 3 lety

    Please keep it moving forward I would like to build one my self

  • @michaelfoster6706
    @michaelfoster6706 Před 2 lety +1

    I just joined your radio "youtube" club for 1.99 /month.........I work very hard for that 2$ every month, so please keep up your sarcasm......lol. love it!!! Since I had no idea that I was subscribed to amazon music for 3.99 a month and just cancelled it, I figured I'd give a portion to you..

  • @jimmyfields5831
    @jimmyfields5831 Před 3 měsíci

    Definitely looking to build a repeater

  • @ellerysr
    @ellerysr Před rokem

    I’m interested in learning more thank you for the video

  • @W2IRT
    @W2IRT Před 3 lety +5

    Great project, and you're learning more about radio than a large number of hams. I come from a land-mobile radio background (40+ years tinkering with radios, including public safety and ham) but it's been 25+ years since I last worked on a repeater. Long comment ahead:
    Coax *absolutely* matters in a repeater. LMR-400 is the minimum I would use for this purpose, especially if the run from the antenna to the duplexer is 50 feet or more. You're dealing with heavy feedline losses at UHF frequencies with the wrong kinds of cable. Let's say you put your repeater in the basement and the antenna on the chimney of the house, and run the coax neatly. You might use 100' of cable. With RG-8X you would experience 8.6dB of signal loss (3dB = half the signal strength, so over 3/4 of the incoming weak signals would be lost in the coax. At CB frequencies or HF ham it's negligible, but at VHF (2m Ham, MURS, marine, railroad, etc) it's bad. At UHF (ham, land-mobile, or GMRS) it's crazy-bad. If you had 9dB of loss (I'm rounding up here), your 50 Watts of power from the transmitter would only be 6.25 Watts at the antenna feed point. And going the other way, if someone were to have a so-so signal into the repeater with LMR-400 feedline they wouldn't even be able to key it up with shitty coax. Spend the bucks on LMR-400.
    With the cost of everything involved, the *average* person who is not getting the gear at little/no cost from sponsorships and is looking to do this project could probably find a surplus/used UHF repeater pre-built on eBay or at a hamfest for a fraction of the $1500 cost you mentioned. Businesses and local/state governments are abandoning conventional UHF frequencies in droves, so there are a lot of them out there. I've seen GE and Motorola UHF solid state repeaters for a couple of hundred dollars, including the controller and duplexer. The only problem would be getting the duplexer tuned to GMRS and finding someone to reprogram the frequencies in the RF deck and the CW ID in the controller.
    If you and your family are the only ones using your repeater you do not need the machine to identify, assuming it's under the same callsign as your family. If anybody else uses it then it does. www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/95.1751. My personal preference is a very fast CW ID at low deviation. It's there to be legal and is not obnoxious. So 35 WPM CW and 2.5 kHz deviation on a traditional wideband repeater works nicely. Then again, I think roger beeps were invented by the devil, so your mileage may vary.
    You should put a tone on the output regardless if you're opening it up to everybody or not. The people using your repeater on mobiles and portables may be in areas of high interference (intermod from other services). Having a CTCSS or DCS tone is for their benefit so they don't hear that crap when monitoring the repeater. A tone on the input is optional, but a good idea--in my personal opinion. My recommendation is to use one between 100 Hz and 203.5. Avoid the ones above it and below it because they may not decode properly either in the Wouxons or the other users' radios whose bandpass filters may be wonky. I kinda like 141.3 and 156.7 but that's just me. Anything above that you can hear clearly through the speaker and it's annoying as hell. FDNY used to use 186.2 and gawd was it annoying.
    Finding a frequency is interesting in the GMRS service. Unlike the ham bands and commercial applications, there is no requirement to coordinate your repeater with a governing body. In ham it's not a requirement, but if you don't go through a coordinating body and you cause interference to someone who has then the FCC can shut you down. GMRS is still more "wild west." Find an open frequency and have at it. What I would recommend would be put up your station and just monitor what you believe to be an unused pair for a couple of weeks. Maybe put in a voice- or carrier-activated digital recorder and see if there's any activity on your proposed pair, and if so, how much. If it's clear or almost clear, and you can't hear other repeaters (remember, no tone when you're doing this monitoring) then program the radios and let'er rip.

  • @4xprops457
    @4xprops457 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video as usual! Yes I’m interested in putting together a repeater. I wish I had something to offer in the way of knowledge but I do not.

  • @usmcbr13
    @usmcbr13 Před 3 lety

    I have been planning on doing the same thing, however. I have a been waiting over a month for my two KG-100g from buy two way radios. I have everything set up and just waiting on them radios now.

  • @mecatx
    @mecatx Před 3 lety +1

    interested in setting up a GMRS repeater system. We have a net every Thursday night here. Would like to extend the range. Enjoy your videos, very educational.

  • @patpowell3050
    @patpowell3050 Před 3 lety

    Make it faster -- I'm interested! Probably also a radio addict! Thanks for sharing your experience! Enjoy all of your presentations!

  • @happyjack880
    @happyjack880 Před 3 lety

    Anxiously waiting for part 2

  • @neoramirez5664
    @neoramirez5664 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for all the great information. I got my HAM license in 2018 with intentions to legally learn and participate in better comms for emergency preparedness and similar stuff. You couldn’t be more right about most Hams. Don’t get me wrong I’ve met some amazing mentors at my local club but most hams around the country like to talk to you like you’re stupid while on the air especially. Keep the good stuff coming.

  • @stephentaylor280
    @stephentaylor280 Před 3 lety +2

    Use RG-214 double shielded coax cable for your repeater and use N connectors over using PL-259 connectors if possible. Built many repeater systems from the ground up. Use your GMRS license as the identifier. KK7T. I would highly recommend that you ground your system to a ground rod and use a Alpha Delta Model ATT3G50U lightning Protector. Had one repeater hit two times in two weeks. Get's expensive.

  • @slowro2984
    @slowro2984 Před 2 lety +1

    I need to go to sleep but these videos are how addictive I assume crack would be.

  • @blujack100
    @blujack100 Před 3 lety

    Yes definitely interested. Thanks

  • @craigjohnson5814
    @craigjohnson5814 Před 3 lety

    Cant wait to see how this works out.

  • @andrewvalenta7320
    @andrewvalenta7320 Před 3 lety

    Great content. Here to watch and learn

  • @user-oe4lr1pd8t
    @user-oe4lr1pd8t Před 3 lety

    Love all your Mickey T's.

  • @danshrader6722
    @danshrader6722 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome channel!

  • @johnneyehrlich9240
    @johnneyehrlich9240 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Wouxun KG-1000G x2= $739.98 Tram 1486 UHF Fiberglass Base Antenna $98.99 TYT DWC30WIN 30A Switching Power Supply $109.99 XLT Communications GMRS Mobile Duplexer (50 Watt) $169.99 Jackery Solar Generator 1000 $1649.00 For a total of $2,767.95 before taxes and shipping..... thought you said low cost in the title?

    • @wootdoo
      @wootdoo Před 12 dny +1

      Shows you what 4 years has done

  • @whathahk
    @whathahk Před 3 lety

    I like your video's very informative....