Man i said i was done with rabbit holes but i started on the Poppy series so now i have to listen to every single piece of content the boys have released
A very apt phrase, even though Renfield possesses a certain quiet dignity lacking in JP, and while both have a tendency to eat bugs, in the latter case it's a side effect of the all salted beef diet and not because the blood is the life.
There’s a nugget of truth in some of JBP’s societal critique. But he takes the erosion of societal trust and civic duty as a symptom of progressives and left politic, when in my opinion it’s more due to the dog eat dog nature of capitalism and de industrialization and the extreme inequality that’s created.
@@maybemablemaples2144 Every generation has its moral panic, some new formerly unseen group or trend comes to light and conservatives hit the feinting couches. They’ll come along eventually though… kicking and screaming but in my opinion they eventually come around.
Well, yeah. That's how the assholes get you. They aren't dumb, at least when it comes to knowing what to say to keep the money flowing from their unwashed, incel base. Pointing out that things kinda suck isn't especially enlightening though, especially when your conclusion is that it's because of Marxists or independent women or whatever.
Exactly as you're pointing out, it's especially stupid (dare I say, _bad_ even) because any legitimately/authentically felt alienation highlighted and sublimated into terrorizing powerless and already marginalized scapegoats is just a result of the thing they simultaneously dogmatically worship aka capitalism. To pretentiously quote Spinoza, _"Why do people fight for their servitude, as if it were their salvation?"_ Like when Descartes said, _"cogito ergo sum"_ he notably pretty clearly didn't consider how one is able to 'cogito' in the first place, which I would argue is necessarily through an ever evolving social interaction and meaning generated with others through a consensus of first language and then values/common priorities which generates and cultivates the superstructure of social interaction. Language, art, money, science, etc. - these things have no "value" intrinsically and are derived from a social consensus/connection; a social consensus/connection that if we allow to disintegrate through a narrow aperture of bourgeois "things in themselves" individualism will inevitably lead to less and less of an ability for one to 'cogito' at all and therefore we aren't (individually or otherwise). But as Debs put it, _"In very truth gold is god today and rules with pitiless sway in the affairs of men."_ Or to quote Peterson's favorite, _"The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family relationship its sentimental veil and has reduced it to a mere money relationship."_ _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy (Marx to not be pointlessly facetious), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us... But uh...pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will...or something. Man, imagine if all this culture war bullshit was able to be directed into like...anything/everything else... _actual_ civilization-wide star trek-ass space travel and shit, mitigating the continued destruction of the fucking planet, etc. That'd be cool...
I believe he was fired from his university gig, so we can probably stop calling him "professor". Not that he's done much academic research in the last 24 years anyway, judging by his total lack of peer reviewed publications. Apparently, his medical license is also in question, so we can also stop calling him Doctor.
He wasn't fired but he sure wishes he was. All that talk about how he'll lose his job because he was fighting for free speech and then...nothing happened. Not only did none of his fear mongering predictions come true but UoT didn't fire him. They let him have his tantrum and he rage quit 5 YEARS AFTER he claimed they would fire him. UoT played the waiting game and damaged his barely existent dwindling credibility.
@@creatrixZBD Not dating, but they were hanging out together in Romania and shit. So yeah, JBP's daughter has incredibly shitty taste in friends. So much for family values lol
Annie Kelly on QAA recently highlighted a 1990 book called Iron John: A Book About Men, a huge bestseller at the time apparently, in which the author fixates on a fairytale to expound on masculinity in the face of feminism with a nod to "paternal values." Perhaps inspo for young JP.
Basically my government was like "Hey guys let's make it illegal to discriminate against trans people with a completely agreeable, uncontroversial bill" to which JP started bawling and just never stopped
(Sadly) I remember when this was, right before the Zizek "debate". Despite his claims to the contrary, this motherfucker couldn't even bring himself to read the afternoon-length pamphlet that is the Communist Manifesto, which was obvious to anyone who _has_ read it as it addressed literally all of his supposedly unaddressed criticisms brought up in the debate and pretty immediately so, in addition to underscoring why capitalism as an undergirding _material_ 'mode of production' (organizing material reality in terms of ownership/control, on top of which all other social relations and 'culture' is formed from/bounded to; all possibility strictly bound to profitability, the divine right of "the market") is the foundational _material_ source of any legitimate/authentic social alienation he may be highlighting but instead attributes to the most absurd cultural causes like fucking Frozen (ie clarifying why he's an absolute dipshit). In other words, identifying cultural symptoms and then blaming them on other cultural symptoms within the superstructure cultural miasma rather than following them to their root at its base _material_ organization aka capitalism; "existence _precedes_ essence" as Sartre succinctly put this causality here, while also relying almost entirely on the 'naturalistic fallacy' (as Will points out in this clip montage), ie conflating normative claims with descriptive ones, the "is" and the "ought" as Hume would distinguish them. To quote Peterson's favorite, found in the pamphlet he supposedly read, _"The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family relationship its sentimental veil and has reduced it to a mere money relationship."_ _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - Marx, if anything merely a bit too optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us...
"Petting the dog" is how an author virtue signals they character. Peterson in 12 is saying to Always Virtue Signal. Also a skateboard company tshirt that just says Rule 11. or a combo reference, Turn it up to Rule 11.
I mean it’s kind of impossible to do certain fields of social science without acknowledging Marx’s contributions. The point is that this is confined to specific faculties that don’t have much sway off campus, and they teach it in such a way that disconnects Marx’s conclusions from the philosophy that informed them. Marx’s most revolutionary contributions were in the fields of philosophy, economics, and ecology, and anyone studying in those fields is lucky if they’ve been assigned a single paragraph of Marx to read. I’ve met philosophy majors who have the same understanding of Marx as the average high school student.
@@jayzbreemo As a philosophy student, this is very true. There’s still a lingering fear among philosophers in higher eduction directly teaching Marx’s works, despite his MASSIVE influence to 20th century philosophers that ARE being taught There are some schools that will briefly touch upon socialism/communism as a whole, but we’re talking about a semester worth of history and philosophers here, not some 3 page assignment you get over the weekend
Ah yes because being cruel protects you from ever being on the receiving end of others' cruelty, like being a murderer protects you from being murdered or being violent protects you from getting your ass kicked.
I doubt this is even true if there's a camera anywhere in the room, he'd just start sobbing about being compelled at gunpoint to give up the free speech Canadians don't even have
Jordan Peterson is a sad clown, but I kind of agree with him on the first clip there. The most admirable people I've known are the ones who terrify bullies and predators but make everyone else feel safe.
@@shaolinotter I see your point, but definitely not. I hate how these terms always eventually get abused. Freaking Andrew Tate stans calling other people groomers! That's not whom I'm talking about at all.
@@hangukhiphopunfortunately Tate and Peterson absolutely use that to take on the appearance of “fighting against the system” despite the fact that both men greatly benefit from said system.
The main reason I find it hard to listen to chapo for any extended amount of time is that they do act like they are personally unimpeachable…as much fun as it is to hear people being shit on its better when the person doing it operates with humility
Bullshit. Rush Limbaugh never operated with humility when he made fun of people with AIDS. Why should the chapos show humility when mocking a target who deserves it?
They admitted to being wrong about Trump winning and about being too optimistic about Bernie plenty of times but realistically, what kind of podcast would it be if they were second guessing themselves constantly?
I find your whole statement to be a tortured jumble of cognitive dissonance & ironic hypocrisy that I can't decide if it is written proof of you left all of your self awareness in your other pair of pants or you rolled a nat 20 on your satire check when you wrote that, whatever the answer is I am laughing with you or at you 😆 😄 😉 😜
Y’all literally refuse to take on Peterson’s points, you just try to make light of everything he says. It’s cool, but it’s not really particularly compelling
Peterson speaks in truisms and platitudes and people who have spent any amount of time learning philosophy, including rhetoric, won’t waste their time “dissecting” his words, because everything is on the surface. There’s no substance. Edit: and anyway, they do address his points here. They go over his book, 12 Rules for Life, and critique it.
Peterman doesn't make any points that actually merit a take down. He is the living embodiment of the following quote: "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity. For the crowd believes that if it cannot see to the bottom of something it must be profound. It is so timid and dislikes going into the water." -Nietzsche
Communism and socialism are thoughts of immature minds with few responsibilities. When I was young I loved communism. Now I’m older and have serious issues to deal with I realize it’s a flight of fancy. All of us are too greedy for communism to ever work. Wanna prove me wrong give up all your material possessions, I will too but few else will. It can’t work we’re all too caught up in our own lives, opinions and desires.
'Prove me wrong, give up all your material possessions.' That doesn't even begin to approach an argument against communism. If you want to be critical of Communism fine, but can you at least engage with the basic parameters of how sound and faulty arguments are determined? What you've got here is nothing more than a ridiculous Gotcha! hypothetical. Both communism and socialism, while both far from perfect, are infinitely more complex than just 'owning nothing' and 'people are too selfish!" and your flawed reasoning shows how little you've tried to engage with that.
@@stonesoupstudio2348 The exact answer I assumed you would give. Have you even read capital by Marx? Or just the manafesto? It wasn’t a “gotcha” either just proof that you would only jump to that point and not that fact that it is not the ideals that are flawed but us as humans.
@@thomasowens3135 So you're making plain bad arguments to bait people into calling you out on them, and claiming it was intentional and therefore makes it more credible. Its doesn't. And it's hardly relevant, but how much theory I have/ have not read is barely even related. The size and complexity of both systems are MUCH bigger than Marx's writings alone. Yet more gatekeeping on your part. Literally the 'Oh you like X band? name every song' gambit.
@@stonesoupstudio2348 I’m only reacting to what you’re saying. I’m not gate-keeping anyone. You can believe whatever you want. I posted what I feel you posted what you feel. It’s discourse. But making something more complex doesn’t make you right and me wrong. Communism is about us as humanity coming together as one to better ourselves and or humanity without the crushing restraints that capitalism imposes on us. If can’t agree with that then you truly have no idea what you’re taking about.
"He's crying right behind me, isn't he?"
J0rdan Peters0n's sharing a daddy milking facility with his teenage twitter fans was a real highlight of his year.
What an only meat diet and Benzos can do to a man...
He’s not going to cry, is he?
Conan. He no cry. So Jordan cries FOR HIM
"Virtue busting" may be the single most memorable phrase I've taken from CTH.
for me it's "and I think to myself.. what a logical world"
Man i said i was done with rabbit holes but i started on the Poppy series so now i have to listen to every single piece of content the boys have released
I love when Matt says rogic and reason
He’s Shaggy and Scooby
why does he look like a vampires thrall who works at a blood bank?
A very apt phrase, even though Renfield possesses a certain quiet dignity lacking in JP, and while both have a tendency to eat bugs, in the latter case it's a side effect of the all salted beef diet and not because the blood is the life.
Carnivore diet and xanax addiction
He’s Nic Cage in Vampires Kiss but older
Also his mania shifted from pop-eyed leering to the chronically lachrymose, but otherwise this checks out.
Xanax
I love the 5-10 Peterson converts in these comments acting all mad 😂
If you have half empty water bottles in your room and there's a fire you can put it out
Jordan Peterson
Will my piss jugs work?
I wish I could see these replies, I bet they are heinous
@@theletterw3875 Why can't you see the replies?
@@OOspazOO CZcams hides them, they must have tripped the censorgrithm
Can you see them?
His demographic is mostly incels so chances are that isnt water
I can listen to people imitate JP all day. Good stuff.
There’s a nugget of truth in some of JBP’s societal critique. But he takes the erosion of societal trust and civic duty as a symptom of progressives and left politic, when in my opinion it’s more due to the dog eat dog nature of capitalism and de industrialization and the extreme inequality that’s created.
Lol as if these losers would ever be aware enough to know that their alienation comes from that instead of threatening queer and trans kids.
@@maybemablemaples2144 Every generation has its moral panic, some new formerly unseen group or trend comes to light and conservatives hit the feinting couches. They’ll come along eventually though… kicking and screaming but in my opinion they eventually come around.
Well, yeah. That's how the assholes get you. They aren't dumb, at least when it comes to knowing what to say to keep the money flowing from their unwashed, incel base. Pointing out that things kinda suck isn't especially enlightening though, especially when your conclusion is that it's because of Marxists or independent women or whatever.
Exactly as you're pointing out, it's especially stupid (dare I say, _bad_ even) because any legitimately/authentically felt alienation highlighted and sublimated into terrorizing powerless and already marginalized scapegoats is just a result of the thing they simultaneously dogmatically worship aka capitalism.
To pretentiously quote Spinoza, _"Why do people fight for their servitude, as if it were their salvation?"_
Like when Descartes said, _"cogito ergo sum"_ he notably pretty clearly didn't consider how one is able to 'cogito' in the first place, which I would argue is necessarily through an ever evolving social interaction and meaning generated with others through a consensus of first language and then values/common priorities which generates and cultivates the superstructure of social interaction. Language, art, money, science, etc. - these things have no "value" intrinsically and are derived from a social consensus/connection; a social consensus/connection that if we allow to disintegrate through a narrow aperture of bourgeois "things in themselves" individualism will inevitably lead to less and less of an ability for one to 'cogito' at all and therefore we aren't (individually or otherwise). But as Debs put it, _"In very truth gold is god today and rules with pitiless sway in the affairs of men."_
Or to quote Peterson's favorite,
_"The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family relationship its sentimental veil and has reduced it to a mere money relationship."_
_"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy (Marx to not be pointlessly facetious), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us...
But uh...pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will...or something. Man, imagine if all this culture war bullshit was able to be directed into like...anything/everything else... _actual_ civilization-wide star trek-ass space travel and shit, mitigating the continued destruction of the fucking planet, etc. That'd be cool...
There was more equality during more industrial times? And there were other times in the past where we were all equal cool!
I believe he was fired from his university gig, so we can probably stop calling him "professor". Not that he's done much academic research in the last 24 years anyway, judging by his total lack of peer reviewed publications. Apparently, his medical license is also in question, so we can also stop calling him Doctor.
He's a phd psychologist, not a psychiatrist, so he's never had a medical license
Psychologist aren't doctors and psychology is mostly fake science
When you get fired from a tenure position you receive your secret Dark Professor status, and your Dark Doctorate
He wasn't fired but he sure wishes he was. All that talk about how he'll lose his job because he was fighting for free speech and then...nothing happened. Not only did none of his fear mongering predictions come true but UoT didn't fire him. They let him have his tantrum and he rage quit 5 YEARS AFTER he claimed they would fire him. UoT played the waiting game and damaged his barely existent dwindling credibility.
That’s Mr Dr Professor Peterson to you sir
"Don't follow leaders watch your parking meters"
👍
Never realized it was Andrew "King of Misogyny" Tate that Mikala was dating.
Wtf? I am now years old learning this? Truth?
@@creatrixZBD Not dating, but they were hanging out together in Romania and shit.
So yeah, JBP's daughter has incredibly shitty taste in friends. So much for family values lol
Does he like it when his daughter dates men that treat her like shit?
@@creatrixZBD yeah, it’s def crazy how all this aged lol.
@@creatrixZBD yep
Matt sounds like Dr Strangelove when he impersonates Peterson
Annie Kelly on QAA recently highlighted a 1990 book called Iron John: A Book About Men, a huge bestseller at the time apparently, in which the author fixates on a fairytale to expound on masculinity in the face of feminism with a nod to "paternal values." Perhaps inspo for young JP.
It's repacked nonsense. You could get the same basic advice JP gives from going to a Tony Robbins seminar.
Behind the Bastards also talked about Iron John as a precursor to Andrew Tate's style of bullshit.
Peterson the Cultural Fascist
We went from people like Noam Chomsky to this. People call this dude and Ben Shapiro intellectuals. We’re doomed.
His fans are the closest thing to Barry keoghan's character in the killing of a sacred deer.
my child niece loves the strong women of Frozen.. not displaying radical tendency yet
I like how Matt's impression of JP sounds like Brendan Fraser in the whale😂
Basically my government was like "Hey guys let's make it illegal to discriminate against trans people with a completely agreeable, uncontroversial bill" to which JP started bawling and just never stopped
Balling
Wouldn't that make it controversial?
Yeah… the HRC is some clown shit though.
@@berdyderg900 Found the guy from Alberta.
@@berdyderg900 well I mean even equality is controversial to a white supremacist
Classic Chapo.
Bro Kermit the frog voice nailed it lol
Canadian based psychologist and psychotic.
I did the Bing and Google test the only difference was that bing gave me a lot of pictures of empty bikinis
I will literally take detours in my day to approach and pet cats I encounter. Am I closeted Peterson head?
He’s just paraphrasing Jung.
Weeping also
In the same way Oasis paraphrased the Beatles.
Jung was a f-g hack
Lotta verbal acuity in this group but not a lot of brains
@@CrudForge Are you upset that they're being very unfair to your youtube daddy?
I cry. A lot.
Gary u got a firend in me
Do you do it while giving lectures to hundreds of your fans?
Very flattering picture.
(Sadly) I remember when this was, right before the Zizek "debate".
Despite his claims to the contrary, this motherfucker couldn't even bring himself to read the afternoon-length pamphlet that is the Communist Manifesto, which was obvious to anyone who _has_ read it as it addressed literally all of his supposedly unaddressed criticisms brought up in the debate and pretty immediately so, in addition to underscoring why capitalism as an undergirding _material_ 'mode of production' (organizing material reality in terms of ownership/control, on top of which all other social relations and 'culture' is formed from/bounded to; all possibility strictly bound to profitability, the divine right of "the market") is the foundational _material_ source of any legitimate/authentic social alienation he may be highlighting but instead attributes to the most absurd cultural causes like fucking Frozen (ie clarifying why he's an absolute dipshit).
In other words, identifying cultural symptoms and then blaming them on other cultural symptoms within the superstructure cultural miasma rather than following them to their root at its base _material_ organization aka capitalism; "existence _precedes_ essence" as Sartre succinctly put this causality here, while also relying almost entirely on the 'naturalistic fallacy' (as Will points out in this clip montage), ie conflating normative claims with descriptive ones, the "is" and the "ought" as Hume would distinguish them.
To quote Peterson's favorite, found in the pamphlet he supposedly read,
_"The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family relationship its sentimental veil and has reduced it to a mere money relationship."_
_"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - Marx, if anything merely a bit too optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us...
Peterson is promoted as a right wing personality so young men dont get out of the info bubble and start listening to an E. Michael Jones
"Petting the dog" is how an author virtue signals they character. Peterson in 12 is saying to Always Virtue Signal. Also a skateboard company tshirt that just says Rule 11. or a combo reference, Turn it up to Rule 11.
I am convinced by anything a weeping carnivorous benzo addict says
James Damore there's a name. dude was the most 5 minutes of fame of all the 5 minutes of fame LogicHeads
The Birth Of Jilliam Jonker.
This is hillarious!
He sounds like Mrs. Doubtfire & Kermit w/ CTE
Great episode, but what the Hell does he mean "Marx was driven out of the academy 30 years ago" ... they still teach the father of sociology lol
I mean it’s kind of impossible to do certain fields of social science without acknowledging Marx’s contributions. The point is that this is confined to specific faculties that don’t have much sway off campus, and they teach it in such a way that disconnects Marx’s conclusions from the philosophy that informed them. Marx’s most revolutionary contributions were in the fields of philosophy, economics, and ecology, and anyone studying in those fields is lucky if they’ve been assigned a single paragraph of Marx to read. I’ve met philosophy majors who have the same understanding of Marx as the average high school student.
@@jayzbreemo As a philosophy student, this is very true.
There’s still a lingering fear among philosophers in higher eduction directly teaching Marx’s works, despite his MASSIVE influence to 20th century philosophers that ARE being taught
There are some schools that will briefly touch upon socialism/communism as a whole, but we’re talking about a semester worth of history and philosophers here, not some 3 page assignment you get over the weekend
Ah yes because being cruel protects you from ever being on the receiving end of others' cruelty, like being a murderer protects you from being murdered or being violent protects you from getting your ass kicked.
Testosterone supplements.
Sweat pants....lol
the gay professor
His voice is just the worst
Damn, they got proved totally wrong by googles image ai.
So anyways, I started cryin...
oh my god this isnt satire is it lmao
I've been a chubby chaser since I was a teenager.
Were your parents fat? I feel like there's pretty consistent psychology there as society as a whole agrees fat people are unattractive
Birds are immortal, ok..
Yes, and they issue their own currency.
More or less stupid, but Peterson’s stated position is that he WILL call you your preferred pronoun, he just doesn’t think he should have to 😂
And that's the hill that he died on, huh? Interesting.
It's Interesting what social injustices people decide to become martyers for.
I doubt this is even true if there's a camera anywhere in the room, he'd just start sobbing about being compelled at gunpoint to give up the free speech Canadians don't even have
@@ThePulaskiPumperit wasn’t a hill he died on, it was the muck from which he bloomed like a benzo addicted kermit shaped lotus blower
All this because he literally misunderstood, or deliberately lied about, an amended version of Bill c-16. We Canadians are not sending our best.
1:00:33 Not a single dudebro i remember bragging about this book at work mentioned this part, big wonder why
Jordan Peterson is a sad clown, but I kind of agree with him on the first clip there. The most admirable people I've known are the ones who terrify bullies and predators but make everyone else feel safe.
bullies and predators = random gay people existing. everyone else = school shooters
@@shaolinotter I see your point, but definitely not. I hate how these terms always eventually get abused. Freaking Andrew Tate stans calling other people groomers! That's not whom I'm talking about at all.
FDR and Bernie Sanders welcoming the hatred of the ruling class are whom I'm talking about!
@@hangukhiphopunfortunately Tate and Peterson absolutely use that to take on the appearance of “fighting against the system” despite the fact that both men greatly benefit from said system.
@@TheSkaOreo true
OKAY WE DONT ACTUALLY ALL SOUND LIKE JP
Lmao true, only the albertans
@@portc6809 albertarians
@@portc6809 this kind of discrimination is why we deserve independence.
Well, maybe a bit?
@@portc6809I’m an Albertan and Jordan Peterson speaks like no one I’ve ever met.
🐢🩲🌋
Rosa Pronouns.
Please. It's pronounced Torono. The second T is silent.
This is very important.
non-canadians trying to say trawno is cringe.
49:45
Jordan Peterson needs to be banned from the platform.
Agree.
Something isn't right about these three boys...when was this recorded 4 years ago?
Yes
The main reason I find it hard to listen to chapo for any extended amount of time is that they do act like they are personally unimpeachable…as much fun as it is to hear people being shit on its better when the person doing it operates with humility
Bullshit. Rush Limbaugh never operated with humility when he made fun of people with AIDS. Why should the chapos show humility when mocking a target who deserves it?
They admitted to being wrong about Trump winning and about being too optimistic about Bernie plenty of times but realistically, what kind of podcast would it be if they were second guessing themselves constantly?
@@ChewyThomson Exactly, Chewy gets it
I find your whole statement to be a tortured jumble of cognitive dissonance & ironic hypocrisy that I can't decide if it is written proof of you left all of your self awareness in your other pair of pants or you rolled a nat 20 on your satire check when you wrote that, whatever the answer is I am laughing with you or at you 😆 😄 😉 😜
🐀🐀🐀🐀
Outdated stuff, the culture has moved on.
first :^)
The state of this comment section! Big gay babies, all of you 😂
Triggered?
@@pr00de
Astounded
@@grimace4257 Triggered.
@@grimace4257 I'm astounded that you still use gay as a pejorative and expect to be taken seriously. Go lay down by your dish, little lobster.
@@pr00de
Yes Matt P, triggered.
I agree with the honorable doctor on a racial level
Preferred pronouns? You guys make it sound like it's a choice if it's a preference.
Oh calm down
@@fritzstammen4535 Lmao
Preferred pronouns? I boil dogs
It literally is a choice. You’re choosing what pronouns to use
This is a distinction without a difference. Literally synonyms. I also boil dogs.
Y’all literally refuse to take on Peterson’s points, you just try to make light of everything he says. It’s cool, but it’s not really particularly compelling
Peterson speaks in truisms and platitudes and people who have spent any amount of time learning philosophy, including rhetoric, won’t waste their time “dissecting” his words, because everything is on the surface. There’s no substance.
Edit: and anyway, they do address his points here. They go over his book, 12 Rules for Life, and critique it.
You are most certainly not either of those things nerd.
Peterman doesn't make any points that actually merit a take down. He is the living embodiment of the following quote: "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity. For the crowd believes that if it cannot see to the bottom of something it must be profound. It is so timid and dislikes going into the water." -Nietzsche
Communism and socialism are thoughts of immature minds with few responsibilities. When I was young I loved communism. Now I’m older and have serious issues to deal with I realize it’s a flight of fancy. All of us are too greedy for communism to ever work. Wanna prove me wrong give up all your material possessions, I will too but few else will. It can’t work we’re all too caught up in our own lives, opinions and desires.
'Prove me wrong, give up all your material possessions.' That doesn't even begin to approach an argument against communism.
If you want to be critical of Communism fine, but can you at least engage with the basic parameters of how sound and faulty arguments are determined? What you've got here is nothing more than a ridiculous Gotcha! hypothetical.
Both communism and socialism, while both far from perfect, are infinitely more complex than just 'owning nothing' and 'people are too selfish!" and your flawed reasoning shows how little you've tried to engage with that.
@@stonesoupstudio2348 The exact answer I assumed you would give. Have you even read capital by Marx? Or just the manafesto? It wasn’t a “gotcha” either just proof that you would only jump to that point and not that fact that it is not the ideals that are flawed but us as humans.
@@thomasowens3135 So you're making plain bad arguments to bait people into calling you out on them, and claiming it was intentional and therefore makes it more credible. Its doesn't.
And it's hardly relevant, but how much theory I have/ have not read is barely even related. The size and complexity of both systems are MUCH bigger than Marx's writings alone.
Yet more gatekeeping on your part. Literally the 'Oh you like X band? name every song' gambit.
@@stonesoupstudio2348 I’m only reacting to what you’re saying. I’m not gate-keeping anyone. You can believe whatever you want. I posted what I feel you posted what you feel. It’s discourse. But making something more complex doesn’t make you right and me wrong. Communism is about us as humanity coming together as one to better ourselves and or humanity without the crushing restraints that capitalism imposes on us. If can’t agree with that then you truly have no idea what you’re taking about.
@@stonesoupstudio2348 Its also laughable that you would say you’re research of a subject has no bearing on your knowledge of it.
I use the same line kermit here uses for the pot-smoking guy he knew: “Get this junkie off my video and reading recommendations.”
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