1st Look: My New(ish) SCAR Battle Rifle
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In this episode, Ivan delves into the world of battle rifles. He breaks down the component parts of his modified SCAR 20s battle rifle, from Parker Mountain Machine and Kinetic Development Group, to Lingle Industries, Occam Defense, and Imperial Arms Company. Ivan also shares his shooting experience with an upgraded Scar and his future plans for the rifle.
Loadout
FN SCAR 20s
Parker Mountain Machine SCAR 20 Rails
MotoTech Engineering SCARburator
PMM QD Socket
Kinetic Development Group Charging Handle
Lingle Industries SCAR Rear Plate
Lingle Industries Plate Support
PMM SCAR 1913 Back Plate
Occam Defense Hex 2.0 Folding Stock
Lingle Industries SCAR Buffer
Imperial Arms Co. Buffered Bolt Carrier
Imperial Arms Co. SCAR Lower
Die Free Co. Kung-Fu Grip
Ballistic Engineering CORE Trigger
Lingle Industries SCAR Lower
Die Free Co. Kung-Fu Grip
Velocity Trigger
Sierra-Tac Padded Sling
Q LLC Jumbo Shrimp Silencer
0:00 Introduction and Overview of Battle Rifle
1:16 Component Parts of Battle Rifle
2:11 Parker Mountain Machine and Kinetic Development Group Reviews
4:43 Lingal Industries and Mototech Engineering Reviews
7:23 Skow, Akham Defense, and Lincoln Industries Discussion
10:22 Imperial Arms Company Features and Benefits
13:14 Shooting Experience with Upgraded Scar
15:22 Final Thoughts and Future Plans for the Rifle
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Which lower do you prefer?
Here's my very expensive rifle. I only had to replace everything so I could like it.
Its a pretty polarizing rifle
@@CorkScrewDoodAs much as I love SCARs... I have to agree with his sarcasm. This is a poor(or extremely rich??) way to make a BR, and it is too heavy for a BR.
SCAR20 IMHO is the best SCAR out of the box, at least as far as parts goes. I find nothing to replace on it, unlike the 17 where I felt the need to upgrade the rail, grip and trigger.
I would have absolutely no problem if someone chopped a 308 SCAR 20 barrel to 16'' or 14.5'', running suppressed, and calls it SPR. Or at least start with a SCAR 17 if the end goal is a BR, to keep the weight more reasonable.
To each his own, save the projection for family who act like they care.
@@RAWEKAM Speaking of projection...
Yup
4.5k rifle with easily another 4k in gunsmithing and parts to get it working how you want
very cool, but an absurdly expensive project
And a bargain bin optic.
It's definitely not cheap! But, Ivan is happy with it, and that is priceless. It is better to spend 8k and love your gun than spend 8k on 4-8 different guns you don't love.
@@nameommited Seriously. I’d take a stock SCAR with an ATACR over this thing
@@88kar88 oh yeah, for sure, good for Ivan!! I wish I had this setup!
@@88kar88 Agree, absolutely, unequivocally.
SCARburetor is such a good name
FN FAL and the SCAR H are my dream rifles. G3 is another one id love to have.
Sig 540
I m washing dishes and cleaning out horse stall to save up for ED209!!!
There’s ALOT of ppl in these comments talking about $$$. Let the man run his gun the way he wants. You don’t have to do the same thing, this vid is kind of proof of that concept. Run want ya want, change what ya want and carry tf on 😂
People mentioning the cost. Obviously he has zero concern on cost. Enjoying the fruits of his labor.
Very cool but also very out of touch with the average viewers
Agreed it’s a lot to do on a $3-4k rifle but then again, for what he’s looking to achieve, what other platform would offer the same thing. If you take cost out (which when it comes to your MAIN go to war gun) I totally get it
SR25 lol. SIG 716i or even the SPEAR, and most likely the JAKL 308/6.5 that’s coming from PSA. Limitless options that don’t involve dropping thousands more on a rifle you already paid 4k for.
Literally any quality AR10 variant
hi kit from vermont! Nice to see ya still pluggin away!
Can't wait for the full review. I've never seen a SCAR 20s look like this before. Definitely has a unique look!
Interesting to see all the new aftermarket support. When I got my 17 the Geissele was new and there were only 2 insanely expensive lowers that converted to the SR 25 pattern. I ended up finding a couple dozen original Belgian mags for like $22 each so the conversion didn’t make sense anymore.
I've wanted to build a scar with a metal lower for a long time. Only way I'd own one. Wicked video. I've never seen someone so into scars.
I like what you did with it! Looks great!
You are my effing hero! I had delusions of doing this and thought I'd never see it and you did it! Very cool!
I think that's too much modifications. At this point you more or less have a FrankenSCAR. But hey, keep rocking if you love it.😂
But I still have to say:
Too much receiver and barrel for a BR, especially a 16'' 6.5CM doesn't make much sense over 308.
I would just start with a SCAR 17 and make it 14.5'' or 13'', change it to MREX Mk2 rail. So it still will be ~8lb.
As far as controls I would just do BCM KAG, PMM bad lever, grip, and sling points while I'm at it. (maybe G trigger)
I don't know if I was just lucky, but both NRCH 17 and 20 I've used ejects 3-4oclock out the box with M80. Even suppressed on 2nd gas position.
The stock on them are also pretty good I have no reason to pay that much to change them. Especially considering you have to reinforce the rear screw holes if you change to other stocks and/or have it overgassed.
FN designed the 17 to be as light, accurate and reliable as possible. Therefore it's pretty normal to encounter more issues when you mess with it. SCAR 20 is just a DMR version of it, while it delivers more accuracy for faster and more shots... It's not any more resilient to tinkering over the 17.
Lots of upgrades i really check out. The adjustable gas is really whats going to save your gun from killing itself. SCAR is only known to beat itself to death due to suppressing and FNS abysmal "adjustable" gas port. That one for the rear stock also seems like a must if you are changing the rear stock.
Very cool rifle but, man, so much work and $ (beyond the already crazy MSRP). Props to you for going all in
Looks like a solidly improved scar
Fantastic, really like, thanks
SCAR17S DMR will save the trouble and little lighter in overall weight. I agree on short barrel 6.5CM. I’m surprise to see that light weight cut BCG, I was think about that too. I switch between the UGG and SSR if overall weight is a concern. The wobble on the SSR stock can be easy fix by filling the gap with electric tape. The jet screw is loose fit from factory easy unscrew, a smaller jet screw correct the issue if not suppress. Perhaps put on a scope take her all the way to 1000 yards. Great video
The look on your face at the end tells it all, this thing turned out great. Very impressive shooting steel out to 400 as well, you clearly had a vision and achieved it.
shooting steel out to 400 really isnt impressive with a large frame rifle like this...
@alonsosalinasnajera776 yeah I've shot out to 400yds with my 10.3 AR lol
Can easily spend $5000 to try to build a scar 17 from the ground up using imperial arms receiver and mostly fn oem parts, an aftermarket trigger module with geissele trigger the rest oem. Pretty crazy you may as well buy a brand new Scar the buy a after market lower, Geissele trigger and might still have some money left if 5k was your budget to build one. Just take your factory scar apart and build it again, haha.
I would like to see an update on your 6.5 Creedmoor. I own an older version of the SCAR 17s with a Handle Defense Lower. I'm considering converting it to a 6.5 Creedmoor and using a non-reciprocating handle.
There is a update coming in a bit. Waiting for a competition or class to ring it out a little more. So far I'm loving it.
VERY COOL. Thanks
Thanks!
Bravo-Zulu, on the Outstanding Presentation of your Very Cool Setup! How long has it taken you to get your SCAR 17 to this point where it is a more Shooter friendly weapon that does not want to kill the user? I am glad that the aftermarket finally started to give the SCAR 17 the support that it had DESPERATLY NEEDED! I have seen two SCAR 17 bolts BLOW OUT the Rear of the Upper Receiver. I always thought that a weapon like the SCAR should have Tighter End Plate and that has been one of the many things that has kept me from seriously looking at buying one because I like to shoot my firearms but NOT DESTROY them in the Process of a range session but it looks like you have found the magic mixture of elements to create a solid SCAR 17 that is not going to Blow it self up after 3k rounds thru it. It is funny how many of the companies that you mention have also released Upgraded Parts for other Problematic Weapon like the CZ Bren 2ms to make them more reliable and user friendly when it comes to magazines and trigger packs.
It's cool that there is so much aftermarket support to fix all of the issues, but it also highlights how ridiculous it is that the SCAR has so many issues at that purchase price. But tinkering is half the fun right?
Absolute, unequivocally cool. That should be in the Museum of Modern Art. And that smile at 15:25, says it all.
That thing looks kick ass. It looks very near-future dystopia.
nice, very nice rifle.
That's a sweet rifle!
Awesome video . What did you have the barrel length cut to?
What are those mlock rail covers on the front they look pretty cool
I love the lingle Lower, it's reminiscent to my Bren. If only they would make it for the ar15s I would buy one in a heart beat.
nice set up.what brand/model the jacket you're wearing, thanks
The thoughtful planning that you put into this amazing performer...very nice build. I have a bone stock SCAR -17s, hoping Imperial Arms has 17 internal parts to prevent mine from killing itself...even though I rarely shoot it. First though, may be a Geissle trigger. People complaining about the costs and money you put into your build may have never seen how much quality stuff you have and show us. For me, I may never own that cool stuff and that's why youtube is the place for me to see others show and tell the items I dream about. Thanks again, Ivan.
That Midwest stock leaves imprinted bruises after some hardcore range days. Some rubber and hockey tape on the end fixed that and made a ghetto cheek riser lol
Hey Devil, nice rig! Hey so word on the internets is the MD-25 has unacceptable passive aiming performance. Any confirmation on that?
Very unique rifle
The click of the hinge closing on that stock was like a hammer on anvil
I hope the PWS UXR will replace my custom Scar 17 i love it but hate it at the same time !
When do we get those FDE DFCO grips?
Optics holding up well?
Sir, you are the Master of color matching.
Why do people buy $3K+ guns they need to swap out half the parts on? Especially if the warranty/company is crap?
That's a $4500 gun. And to answer your question, FN has an excellent warranty and probably makes the best lineup of guns from any company. You can literally pick any gun they make and use it hard and they last forever. They just don't warranty shooting suppressed on SCARs. Also, no one makes a 6.5CM with all those features, so if you want them, you have to build it.
@@Rhetorical346
> FN has an excellent warranty
False. All these crappy gun companies that limit warranty based on the removal of a muzzle brake or the use of suppressors are bad by default.
> You can literally pick any gun they make and use it hard and they last forever.
You literally just watched a video where a trusted gun reviewer and combat/PMC vet echoed a known concern about the gun beating itself to death.
> They just don't warranty shooting suppressed on SCARs.
So they don't have an excellent warranty and the company/warranty are bad by default.
@@firstbeforelast433 people I trust a lot more than a random guy on CZcams who heard it might break so he bought an aftermarket part endorse the SCAR. Go read the posts and watch the videos of the owner of Battlefield Vegas. He has SCARs on his range with over 200k rounds still going strong, and claims it is one of the most reliable weapons he has on his range. They fire a couple MILLION rounds every month there, so I think he knows what he's talking about.
If you look into the publicly available info on the SOF MK20 6.5CM adoption you'll see overwhelming evidence that it's the most reliable 308/6.5CM semi-auto tested to date by DOD.
Also, their warranty is excellent. Do a little research :)
Why do people buy expensive cars and mod them?
@@firstbeforelast433 my reply to you was deleted, but the short version is nearly every word of your post is wrong
Have you had good luck with the 6.5 and the 25 round pmags? I feel like I remember someone mentioning they were problematic with 6.5 but can't find anyone mentioning it specifically
Who makes the Mlok plugs? Can't find any details on them.
did i miss it... you chose what barrel length?
sweet build!
did you get the barrel cut to 16"?
Is the iac buffered bolt carrier worth it??
Thing looks fukn sweet shorter barrel full rail fuck yeah makes me want to buy one and configure it like that. Got the regular scar h
Does the buffered bolt carrier work ????
At least you're willing to try different stuff. I'll buy a gun and unless it's going to improve the life of the gun I won't change anything. I add like normal stuff but internally and functionally won't change a thing. I will just figure it out.
Seems like you made a psa jakle in 6.5 ?
PWS UXR is basically this. Or you could have gone with a XCR.
The moment I saw this rifle I had a flash back of the Purtorican day parade and the girl that made my mother never speak to me until her death. We made a viking with a Fro.
Love the build!
Cool, well thought out build. Some pretty solid logic and reasoning!
That thing looks incredibly soft shooting
Scar16 is my favorite scar. I have a lot of rounds in my scar16. 16s dont kill themselves with use. It takes regular m4 mags. However my scar20 and 17 are also fine without all the upgrades. Scar17 is a dmr and 20 is a csass style gun. If you use them like that instead of battle rifle, they will be fine. That buffer pad is mainly for not killing optics. I also dont see why sr25 mags are desirable in a scar. Scar mags are not expensive and they are reliable. Sr25 kac metal mags are expensive. Sure you can get pmags but they are not metal
This is probably among the coolest scars in existence, but shooting from the hip I’m guessing you spent another $2k to make a $4.5k rifle do what you want. At that point I’d be looking for a knights 6.5 but to each their own I suppose.
Closer 4k in extra stuff I'd guess.
My friend owns the company that makes the handguard inserts. Anyone wondering it’s creature grip company
Dude I put the same stock on my scar….it changed everything for me.
I just want someone to make a fully ambi lower for the scar.
SCAR - nudge.. nudge
So I have a stupid question... instead of buying a scar an replacing a bunch of stuff could u just get these parts an do one yourself?
So for the same price, could of got a Geissele MRGG which is probably lighter even with its longer barrel.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Imagine spending all that money on the rifle, then have to spend the same amount to get it to run without dying. Should have just bought an actual KAC SR25 for that money. At least that thing would run no questions and weigh half as much.
Wait, why did you make this in 6.5 in a battle rifle config? 6.5 doesn't really outshine 308 until you get past 6
The whole upper receiver is extruded aluminum, a weaker metallurgy than forging. You should have someone mill you an upper and just not have anything FN, reassemble the gun and sell it lol.
6.5 sneedmore
Qd slings are a flat range thing, if you get mud in it your done
the scar makes so little sense to me. I mean its cool AF, but on the engineering/fabrication side.
Its a middle grade extruded aluminum upper and won't compare favorably in durability tests to 7076T6 MARS-H uppers for similar price point.
Its not fully ambi, and maybe I'm autistic but for prone shooting its a huge quality of life improvement.
Sick barrel, I guess that is one of the reasons to go this way, FN is a top tier barrel maker.
The weight of the gun is also very good. But the warranty is trash.
I appreciate this video, cause I think these are interesting guns. But I've often been confused how they have perpetuated themselves in the way that they have relative to other stuff out there.
Absolutely sweet! I could never buy a SCAR because of all its shortcomings. The stock trigger alone was enough to turn me off for the asking price. Would you have a do you know how $$$ much you have in the gun, gun included w/o optic? Also do you know of an aftermarket company, perhaps one that is listed that sells some of the parts to make an easier turnkey gun? I have spent thousands making guns into the way I want them and for once, it would be so cool to find one, specifically in .308 or 6.5 that hit the mark out of the box. As an example, I invested quite a bit in my Bren 2 to make the way I wanted and it's awesome, but when I look back at how much I spent, ouch! I live in Meridian if you are ever down here and want to shoot it. Take care, Godspeed brother!
Looks like a Sightmark prism on a $5K SCAR 20.
He built it the way he liked it, not to get it to "work right"
There's a difference
I love the scar, to be clear. However, the fact that I would as well have to change out the same amount of stuff to get it to be the rifle I want, really tells me that FN does not care about making a good rifle and just want profits. They had 20 years to take hints from the aftermarket and all they did was make a reciprocating charging handle and a longer barrel👎👎👎👎👎 (remind anyone of HK, no??? Thats because you suck, and they hate you) it pisses me off. Thats why I just got the Sig Spear Lt. I did a pro and con sheet and it was a simple decision. I might change the butt stock but thats it. And I hate it because I’m still probably going to get the scar😂
bro, this is a $8000 rifle with all those mods. Good for you putting all the effort into modding it, but holy shit, is the platform really worth it at that point?
It’s your money and rifle, do whatever you want. But damn…with all that after market, it’s like you turned a scar into a scar clone
The fact that you use a $200 optic on $6k+ worth of gun says a lot about Primary arms. I'm a big fan of their prism optics.
Seems like a scar 17 dmr is what you looking for
That's a really cool build, but it appears as if you have almost completely rebuilt the rifle. A $4,200.00 rifle that needs an estimated $2,000.00 upgrades to be configured to the users end needs, I question, what does the the original investment get you or lack there of that you need to completely rebuild it.
Could have just gotten a MWS and been done
The SCAR 420😂
That would be the Elon Musk edition. But they'd have to add an X, so SCAR 420X or X420.
KB, that thing is far out the realm of most. its hard not to see a parts sale pitch. who is your audience?
Rich people
The SCAR-17/20 is such a bad gun, that you basically have to replace the entire thing with after market parts to keep it from beating itself to death. The only reason people still buy them, is because of Call of Duty (I want a SCAR-17 so bad).
Only if you run it suppressed and if that's the case the only thing you need is a kns discarder
I used a MK17 Mod 0(Scar-H with a shorter barrel) in Afghanistan, and it worked fine. There are some issues that FN should have fixed though. A longer rail. I never was bothered by the reciprocating charging handle, but they probably should have changed that too. The new MK2 Scars don’t have the reciprocating handle. The Scar has it’s place. It’s a great gun. But it’s niche. Which is why I swapped it out for something else fairly quickly.
Must be nice getting all this stuff for freeeeee
Must be nice getting all that free money working your job... :)
Holy Shit....I think this is the first video on the internet on a "battle rifle" that's not configured as a night fighting DMR. Very nice set up, Thats basically how I run my SR25.
The scar H is giant money pit
Xcr-m
Firsty!
I like you but you're crazy.
i dont even wanna know how much all that cost.. ok yeah i do.
Tfw peope take a rifle designed with a specific purpose in mind and just chop it up and turn it into pooop Just why