Has Lawrence Stroll DESTROYED Aston Martin F1?
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Aston Martin is one of the most controversial teams in F1, and a huge part of that belongs to their owner, Lawrence Stroll. His son, Lance Stroll is one of the two “pay drivers” in the competition as of now. Lawrence Stroll is a very intriguing character, and some of the actions that Aston Martin did in 2022 suggest that he could be the “downfall” of the team. Is Lawrence Stroll the main reason why the team is underperforming a lot? And is there hope for change in the team, knowing that his son is sitting in one of the cars? All that and more will be explained in our video, so stick with us until the very end to find out!
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The best thing he did for F1 was to sack Checo so he can join a much better team and drive a much faster car.
NOW THAT'S SO TRUE! Probably the only "good" decision he's ever made!
Facts! Checo is possibly one of the top 5 drivers in F1! Sacking him so he could go to Red Bull was the best thing that could have happened to him!
When they fired Checo I thought that team was finished already, but when they let Otmar go that was pretty much end of the line.
Seriously just rename it to team Stroll ffs
@@zef9151 Imagine a Vettel and Checo lineup at AM! Would be fun to watch!
@@zef9151 Absolutely! Btw we are thinking of creating another video about Aston Martin / Stroll! What else would you like us to include? :)
It's notoriously well known fact in the engineering profession that the quickest way to wreck a high-tech company is to allow the money men to dictate how the company is run. It seems that in F! there may be something similar at work. F1 Racing is a high-tech activity, and to be competitive you better see to it that you have competent technical people on your team and make them part of your management setup.
Yup! So true there! What do you think Lawrence should do then?
I’m just curious, would it be better for aston martin to rely just on his money, or get rid of him totally? Because it seems impossible to have a good performing car with his money so far, he doesn’t accept other people opinion
@@TheDjanev I think if there's a way to keep the money but have proper direction from an expert, they might just kill it
I disagree that 2021 changes were insignificant. It definately affected more low rake cars than high rake ones. Aston Martin was new to the concept, therefore suffered more!
@@jorgevelasco9787 because Lawrence stroll is telling his engineers to copy other designs rather than using the intelligence within the organisation. The man's an idiot. He wants to shortcut his son to a championship. He doesn't realise championships require both hard work and skill. There are no shortcuts.
The fact that Checo was carrying this whole team on his shoulders says a lot about the great experience and skill the Mexican has had. As soon as he left (well, got fired), everything went downfall.
Aston Martin kinda reminds me of Jaguar in the 2000s: a well known brand with lots of financial support but with no soul and direction. AM will share the same destiny if they don't correct this soon.
That is such a great analogy! What do you think AM / Lawrence should do now then?
Both used the british racing green also Caterham sucked hard and also used the british racing green 🤔🤔🤔
Is there a curse maybe???
I don't know how hands on he is, or how much he even can be without causing too much damage 🙂, but from what I've been able to glean good old Larry is a very hands on boss who leads through fear and intimidation which isn't a management/ownership style I've seen or heard of working well for any length of time.
It's the type of work environment that causes good people, 👋 hello Otmar Szafnauer, to leave and they are often replaced (which Otmar hasn't been yet which may be A) Because nobody will take the job i.e. work for Larry. B) Money related) by people with similar characteristics, i.e. they're assholes too, to that of the big boss who's the main bully.
@@gpcentral I don't know how to answer that, but Jaguar also share similarities with another F1 works team from the 2000's - Toyota.
The team is just throwing money at their problems without any major strategy, not helped by the internal politicking within the team itself, and attempts to plagiarize successful designs without fully understanding what made them so effective.
Well jaguar were bought by an energy drink company, and a certain German who was the greatest ever at the start of his career joined. We all know what happened next.
The proud legacy of a British high performance automotive brand being handcuffed to an F1 team that plagiarizes designs and has daddy's boy driving the car when Lance arguably would've been out of the sport a year or two ago by now if it was on pure merit. It's a shame for Aston Martin and it's a shame for Sebastien Vettel.
Hey why bring Vettel into this?!
Truly guttened that Seb’s last years in his career have to go like this. Just look at Hamilton and Alonso, up there fighting for points…Seb is just down really bad!
@@TheDjanev I think Vettel created his own car problems by playing musical chairs with teams. Theoretically Vettel could be driving a Red Bull.
@@fredfreddy8684 yeah but I don’t think he hoped for this kind of team organization and failure
@@fredfreddy8684 His ultimate dream was winning a title with Ferrari, Red Bull was just his stepping stone.
Whitmarsh proved he didn't have a clue at McLaren took a team in perfect order and more or less dismantled it. Notice Apline with Otmar slowly creeping forward, and Aston Martin with Whitmarsh plunging backwards.
Alpine was already on the rise last year. As for Mclaren Whitmarsh actually did a decent job apart from 2013 when the team decided to go for a radical design which didn't pay off. It was Boullier who completely fucked them over after Whitmarsh left.
Thing with Whitmarsh was he seemed to favour Button more rather than Lewis. Button may have had more points across the three years he raced against Lewis in McLaren, but I feel Lewis in his final years with the team wasn't as well supported as Jenson. Hamilton had far more potential than Button would, even then
Ex-Mclaren F1 engineer Marc Priestley actually rates Whitmarsh pretty highly - I'm not sure you can realistically blame Mclaren's downfall on him.
One of Mclaren's biggest losses was when Newey decided he wanted to work in a new project and then in 2007, they had spygate which apparently destroyed their relationship with Mercedes - they also prepared poorly for the then-new-for-2009 rules and so on. They obviously had ups and downs since then but eventually parting ways with their factory Mercedes engines was another big blow and they just haven't recovered since.
In Adrian Newey's book "how to build a race car", he speaks about when Ron Dennis invited him and Whitmarsh to his place to have them "pledge their loyalty" even after he's gone. Newey said no, I'll pursue my passion and best interest, whereas Whitmarsh said yes before Denni finished his sentence.
Otmar was a vital piece of Force India, probably the most overperforming team of the 2010's, getting rid of him was probably a dumber move than getting rid of Perez
It was foolish of Aston Martin to buy into the team without getting control of the team away from Lawrence Stroll. They need to get Lance Stroll out of the driver's seat and get Lawrence Stroll away from the team.
Yeah Stroll definitely needs to take the back seat
One of the best examples that simply throwing money into a team doesn‘t give you a quick car. When a businessmen dictates how a engineering job has to be performed, this can‘t go well.
Absolutely, we’re on the same page! Btw we are thinking to create another video about Aston Martin / Stroll ! What else would you like us to include? :)
@@gpcentral Maybe a little portrait of Lawrence Stroll himself. He is a very successful businessman, so he certainly knows how to run a company and what it needs to go big.
But F1 is just very different because it‘s not a company for consumer goods.
It‘s not about bashing Lawrence Stroll, but his F1 project might be a huge learning for him.
@@isimon. Perfect! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@gpcentral Thank you for asking in the first place! Didn‘t see that very often haha
@@gpcentral - I disagree with Simon in regards to Stroll's 'success' in business. I think it has little bearing on his fitness to run a team.
He made his fortune selling shares. No offence to people who earn their wage this way but he's used to getting rich quick, selling rather than owning and then throwing said money at problems until they go away.
Anything he's put his hand to, which required a long-term commitment (In business and in his private life), has collapsed like a wet cake. The guy has zero business accumen in that respect and should honestly just stick to blowing his money on fancy toys, he hasn't got anything else to give.
I also find him detestable, he is a spoilt kid, throwing tantrums when things don't go his way. His face often betrays that same vulnerability, he genuinely doesn't know what he's doing and looks abjectly offended when faced with tough questions or challenges. That deranged video he posted when Aston were accused of cheating was an unhinged mess, he looked like he was going to cry at any moment. The guy can't handle a management role and will drop Aston like a hot potato, possibly even after this season.
I have no doubt he'll be in F1 for some time to come, however, like a limpet waiting to latch onto a profitable collaboration that will do the winning for him.
Eversince Lawrence Stroll took over the team. The team coulnd't find its same form that it used to have in the Force India days. The team just slowly declined each year and this year they've pretty much hit rock bottom. I wouldn't consider their 2020 season because let's be real, they just striaght up copied the 2019 Mercedes. This is Lance Stroll's 6th year in F1 and he still hasn't shown any major improvements. The only shining light of the team is Sebastian Vettel, but how long can Vettel stay motivated to continue with the team that he believed in their project? It's so painful to see a 4x WDC driving around with the worst car he has ever driven in his career, and remember he also still hasn't given a name for his car.
Very true fact there! Some say the "good" thing Lawrence did was to sack Checo haha. What do you think Lawrence should do then?
lets just name his car "copycat" then. :)
you are right, painful to watch seb creep there in the back. i'm afraid he won't stay in F1 after this season
@@gpcentral I dont know whats going on behind the scenes, but looking at how Haas, and Alfa Romeo stepped up, Lawrence clearly isn't using the team and the money to its best, compared to the two teams i mentioned when they don't have as much money as Lawrence himself. But one thing he needs to do is drop his own son Lance. It will hurt being a father having to drop your own son, but he needs to do the right thing. His son clearly isn't good enough for F1 and he's had 6 years to prove himself, 3 more than Giovinazzi had. Maybe send him to another racing series where he can really show his talent, like Bredon Hartley in WEC
It is insane how they can attract so many haters, even though they have arguably the most universally loved driver on the grid racing for them (although I am HEAVILY biased as a Seb superfan). I would hate them too if they didn't give him a seat. They need to hire Kimi Raikkonen as a representative of the engineers and factory staff of the team... so he can tell Lawrence to leave them alone... because they know what they're doing.
Pretty sure he's given the car a name but he can't public call it a piece of shit or he will get in trouble from papa stroll
Lawrence could never let his team do their job without him demanding what they should do. He's a control freak that demands victory immidiatly.
Yeah he sure needs to learn how to let his team have more control
You just know he walked into an office and said "Why don't we copy the Merc" and they said "Ehhh we can't do that" and he said "Why" again and again until they found they technically could, despite hating the idea, as good engineers would. And so were forced to cuck themselves for him. I'm so glad that team is falling on its ass. Aston Martin will run as soon as they can.
As a 59 y/o french Canadian, I will always cherish the memory of our greatest F1 pilot; Gilles Villeneuve. His son Jacques had some good years and thrilled us with his talent, but Stroll...sorry, not championship material, very average and not exciting at all to watch.
Facts there! Lance does have potential but not championship material just yet!
I mean what did they expect. Copying other teams, sounds pretty good, but if you don’t understand that design what’s the point? As a designer myself this just hurts me. The point of our job is to come up with something new something better. That is how you succeed
agreed 100%. I just have no idea how the engineers have the willpower to work for this guy...it pains me to see Seb's career taking this massive downfall.
@@TheDjanev yeah agree
100% true! Copying does not get you anywhere at all! It's about innovating!
I disagree to a point, designers and engineers often "borrow" from others. That being said, being told "You need to copy this" will undoubtedly cause issues because Stroll might as well have outright told his team that Mercedes and Red Bull have better personnel.
@@gethinap yeah but it’s like the villain in movies, they are better lets copy them kind of narrative. It’s okay to borrow a design but you need to work on that, not just copy-paste it.
Yes. He may be nearing the end of his time in F1 but when Sebastian Vettel is out in Q1 three weekends in a row there is a serious problem.
Absolutely! Last even today!
He is learning that owning an F1 team and car company (Aston Martin) is different than selling bags and watches. People should know what they aren’t capable of doing!
True! But he’s operating like he owns them.
Very true point. You actually need to know the sports well!
Well, rich people got where they are by doing things their own way. Problem is, some things don’t work that way…like me in an operating room. Sure I can cut you open and sew you back up. But you won’t live to see the horrible scar.
It's no surprise that Lawrence Stroll has destroying the team as well as Aston Martin (as a brand) as a whole, but he will doubling down as always
Double down to spoil the name even more!!!!
Egos like Stroll's don't accept fault.
He doesnt own Aston Martin, hes a share holder. Very different things.
@@fredfreddy8684 Truth there!
@@212MPH He owns a Ferrari lol
It’s a strategy to save money (or make use of limited funds). Engineering from scratch is twice the price than duplication. If there was extra money it can go for upgrades. But they are also the “champions” of the budget cap too. And will speak against Red Bull and like teams.
Well if that’s the excuse people buy, then might as well everyone copy everyone
@@gpcentral Look at HAAS for example. All original, a few crashes later… no upgrades. 💁
@@Mytwistedvoices 🤣🤣🤣
@@Mytwistedvoices this didn't aged well, see Haas few crash later, upgrades in Austria P6 Mick 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Someone once said, "Good artists imitate; Great artists steal".
Well if they do it without understanding the concepts, then it’s useless don’t you think?
But Aston Martin are neither good nor great.
@@JohnM... LOL!!!! What are they then?
@@gpcentral tripe...
@@JohnM... That’s sad to hear lol! Think they have a chance as revival of LS hires a proper racing director?
You know I think strolls daddy money hate and mazepins for thar matter have actually hindered their own ability to improve because of psychological trauma. They were both great drivers in F2.. but then get into F1 and get hate and it breaks their spirit and confidence. Others can break through it and I think stroll could do so. Think about this, mick Schumacher is in the same boat but instead of pure Financials you have your dads name too live up to. Your mindset and confidence is more important than how good your car is.
Yes mindset is key!
2020 RP was the 2019 championship winning merc. Only reason they had some success in 2020.
Next direction? Aston martin announces they actually developed 3 cars in the offseason and they will be running a green ferrari from France onwards.
Copying again.....
Another rich guy who thinks because he has a ton of money he is a genius at running an F1 team.
Exactly what everything things there! Where do you think he should go next?
Goes to show that F1 is more of a business rather than sport…even though the athletes are risking their lives week in week out.
He has to let the people working there do their jobs and not micromanage them.
Yo have to add that he fired the team principal Otmar Zafner, a very important figure in the team.
Noted for future videos on AM! Thank you!
@@gpcentral Otmar left, he wasn’t fired
Remember Boeing. Looking for shortcuts in Engineering design to get financial results was the worst nightmare.
Yup! Copying only can get you so far! Innovation is a MUST!
Jfc! That little ring that sounded like a ring tone on a phone coincided with movement in the bushes on my property, I'm outside w my gun yelling to come out and sit for 5 minutes and then all the sudden a wood chuck comes running out of the bushes, I was like omfg ... where did that ring come from and then all the sudden I looked back at this video and heard it ring again and felt like an idiot but it was a crazy coincidence
That thumbnail was literally Carlos sainz’ Ferrari last weekend
Hahaha! Super unfortunate! Could have been a nice 1-2!
Lawrence is causing problems to AM cause he thinks engineering is just like fashion or whatever he's making money from. He thinks just by copying something he will get same result, well it's not. Designing mechanical systems is much more complex and you need right person to lead successful project.
Edit: typos
Absolutely agree with this! What do you think Lawrence so be doing then?
@@bsrbck no, i did that 2 days ago
Itll only be a matter of time until financial backers and investors force Lawrence to give Lance the sack. Sebs performed well, but Lance only seems to get good results when their are safety cars and red flags involved. You need to put in good results every weekend. I feel he has had his chance and someone else needs a shot.
Oh interesting point there! Who do you think deserves the shot then?
@@gpcentral Id love to see de Vries or Piastri.
@@wesmanpipes9430 Piastri for sure!!!!
@@gpcentral I definitely think de Vries will get an opportunity somewhere after Formule E season is complete.
Wouldn't hurt to consider Hulkenberg too. The fact that he outqualified Stroll in Bahrain and outraced Stroll majority of the race in Jeddah and dragging his hard tyres he started in almost as long as Hamilton when he hasn't driven an F1 car since Nurburgring 2020, not even in pre-season testing just shows that Stroll is really not that good.
He’s a shame for any F1 team!
With Laurence Stroll at the helm, he could potentially damage Aston Martin car sales due his short sightedness.
lol truth there
I don't know how to run a race team but he needs to take a look at Red Bull, Dietrich Mateschitz just lets Horner and Marko get on with it with the team and they get the results. There's a lot of talk that he micro manages people at Aston Martin and it's not working. Also the Mercedes powered have all struggled this year too.
So true there! It seems like he's "copying" the wrong thing! If he modeled the leadership of Binotto / Horner / Wolff this would be such a difference situation!
i pisi: Yes he did! Should just sell the team to a more competent owner.
Totally agree there!!!!
Lawrence is the guy from Don't Look Up who wants to mine the meteor.
"The other team's simply didn't do a good enough job" this aged well
There isnt a lot you can do with outdated facilities they have. Imo we should wait till the new factory is built
So what shall AM do while they wait?
@@gpcentral well, wait... Nothing they can do, except maybe finding some talented staff and look what design filosofy works and hang out in the midfield afterwards until 24
What tts software you use? Very convincing
Text to speech? Nah, it's an action person on our team doing the Voice Overs :)
Liked the team during the Force India days. They used to get regular points with limited budget.
Truly a skilful team!
I think the 2020 pink mercedes shows that in the right car and conditions Lance CAN perform very strongly when he wants to. It isn't Lance's fault that the team stole the designs from mercedes.
Yup it's sure not his fault, but his dads.
I just wanna see that beautiful aston green win, best colour in f1 no doubt
Cool! Btw we are thinking to create another video about Aston Martin / Stroll ! What else would you like us to include? :)
@@gpcentral something about how chances in 2023 could be with new title sponsor boss
Dream on, not going to happen. The resources will dry up, both Strolls will leave, and the team will be sold. Only then will they have a chance of becoming even a midfield team again.
@@peterthomas5792 unfortunately i think so too, unfortunate for such a beautiful livery
Karma for sacking Perez!
Some say sacking Perez is the only good thing he did lol! Agree?
And Hulk
@@gpcentral totally!
I would love to see Hulkenberg seeing in that seat next to Vettel... what a waste to him to be their test driver.
Absolutely a waste
The Question:Is Lawrence Bad at F1?
Me:Obviously,YES!
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As i brand new F1 fan this video was very helpful to understand what "hides" behind this beautiful livery. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Stay tune for another video on Lawrence and Aston we are dropping this week!
@@gpcentral hell yeahhhhh
All I know is Aston should of go for WEC hyper car…
🤣🤣🤣
They are ruining the Aston Martin Brand
He sure is! Why do you think Lawrence should do then?
@@gpcentral quit and take his son with him. There has to be better options out there than the Strolls. With the queue of young drivers coming from F2 its a shame that the likes of Stroll and Latifi are taking seats that could occupied by better drivers.
any inside story of why the team principal left the team just before the start of the new season?
not sure just yet! why do you think so?
BTW, we are thinking of creating another video about Aston Martin / Stroll! What else would you like us to include? 👇
You could share more on Otmar Szafnauer!
Don’t waste your time on losers. I mean you could look into possible buyers, but losers hate winners and do weird stuff with karma. Do some uplifting work instead.
@@superfans5561 absolutely! Will do! Thank you!
@@uprightfossil6673 what would you like to hear from us? :)
@@gpcentral I’m. Tech guy. All this “he said, she said” drama is annoying. I am sure the children love it so continue. But for us old fans do comparisons of track times, updates and history of the cars is more inline with our interests. I mean, just look at cars twenty years ago compared to now. And make it short for attention spans.
With the budget cap there won't be anymore need for Paid Drivers anymore and to be honest, I think if Lawrence wants to show he's a good team boss and someone who doesn't want to drill his team into the ground... He should sack his son, 1000% sure of that
You mean sack his son and himself? LOL
It's sad atleast as Force India even though they were cash strapped they had their own in-house designs. But now with exception of the glamor of different sponsors Aston Martin went from mid-field to backmarker team. I guess we could say Lawrence Stroll couldn't get the work done properly.
Yup! Very true! He needs to learn how to take the back seat
It’s not too late to turn things around, but for that to happen, Lawrence needs to make the difficult but ultimately necessary choice and remove Lance.
Keep Seb for as long as he wants to stay, but long term move to sign consistent drivers, such as Pierre Gasly, Liam Lawson, or even Esteban Ocon again.
Lawanrce also needs to stay out of the running of technical departments. He has reportedly been micromanaging all departments and as a result they can’t make any progress as they always have to listen to the “suggestions” of Lawrence.
can't agree more wit this! he needs to stay out of the management of things.
Dont forget the WEC hypercar class Valkyrie project he scrapped
Great pointer! Btw we are thinking to make another video on LS! What else do you think we could include?
One of the teams Audi is perhaps looking to buy out when it enters F1 in a few years?
yup yup! but until then, it's still a couple of years
@@gpcentral true....but then Porsche has been sitting on the body /group that looks after power unit governance (or some body like that)....and have been for years so its no surprise that they are now joining the F1 ranks with RB. So yeah it is a still few years off, but theres alot going on behind closed doors for sure...stuff we on the outside dont know unless we personally know ppl involved in F1/motorsport governance etc etc
@@friktionrc yup yup!!!
"Daddy"
"Yes, my dear child."
"I want to drive an F1 racing car."
"What's F1? Aw, it doesn't matter. I'll buy a team and you can drive."
"Yea!"
This is so funny 🤣🤣🤣
I've been a fan since force india days. Every race, i lose more and more faith. They are getting slightly better this season, but it is still a massive dissapointment
Yeah! Sad to see a strong team just slowly dying
POLL: Is Lawrence Stroll GOOD or BAD for Aston Martin F1? 👇
Yes Lawrence is loaded with cash but definitely not doing the best of his ability for Aston Martin!!!
He's not doing the team any good!
Far away from good, it's just he doesn't know how the sport works and believes everything could be bought with money. Similar to PSG and Manchester City in the Football World.
GOOD, due to the fact the team would die without the money. Provided that Aston Martin could get cash in another way then according to this video he seems a bit BAD
@@alejandrochataing5341 just look at HAAS and how they did without UralKali, F1 is a popular sport and once Aston Martin shows they are good without Lawrence in the technical part of the sport, money will come!
He has no place in this sport...Lance had potential and still has, but the team and the whole leadership are just equal to misery.
Agree with this! He only knows how to copy other teams!
Yeah it’s a pity watching him kill the team
i agree. despite all the hate to lance, he has the potential and he has proven that he deserves a seat in F1.
@@checo0o11 Yeah so true! The pay driver which actually has potential!
Yes he did :) Daddy racing is never a forward thinking thing.
Totally! What do you think is the best move for Lawrence now then?
As a suggestion, please consider not mixing images from Racing Point when talking about Aston Martin. It is very hard to follow.
Thank you for the feedback!
I hope Lawrence sells the team or something man, sure he wants to be in the sport and succed, but the stuff we have heard about stroll and the fact he made Otmaar leave who was the reason the team was still in fighting spirit leave the team because Otmaar mentioned something about there could only be one superiour or something. Hey Andretti wants to enter, they could buy the team lol
Yeah quite insane! What do you think is the best move for them right now?
@@gpcentral Sacking Lawrence and Lance tbh, get in a rookie like Piastri along side Vettel, or Drugovich. And get rid of Mike crack aswell lmao, just his name says alot lol. Tbh he probably isnt that bad but the strolls need to go, they arent good for the sport right now
I heard you say Sebastian “Wettel”….. and Imowla…..
He puts money where his mouth is. There is no better drama than F1 and his negative publicity is in fact has become his family’s fortune. The world did not know Stroll 10 years ago and now his last name has been known by Billions of people. The best investment ever!
Very true - there’s no such thing “bad publicity” because it’s still publicity!
Btw, we’re are thing of creating another video on Stroll and Aston Martin. What else would you like us to include? :)
Sergio and then Otmar's exit really drove the team to grounds. Lawrence Stroll will now probably approach Toto to beg for some additional Mercedes tech 😂😂😂
LOL! Toto might just ignore him all together!
Lawrence Stroll should step aside and hire people needed for the task and also be more patient
it takes years to build a team but you need drivers to move the car!
the way Aston Martin is there's no chance of evolving specially with a driver and a half
sacked Lance and hire a good driver with a good driver with alot of experience like Mc Laren in the 80's with Watson and Lauda
Facts there! Appreciate your comment.
The only good thing Lawrence did was to make Force India exist a little longer by the name of Racing Point
But what’s the difference then? It’s still a rather bad car.
As Dirty Harry Callahan so famously and correctly put it: “A man just needs to know his limits.” Big Egos can often be short on this level of self-awareness. Clueless, indeed. Good Luck, Lawrence.
Truth there! Thanks for sharing
I'm so glad Stroll Sr. and Jr. Are making fools of themselves publicly personally
😂😂😂
What did lance do to fool himself publicly? Y’all just say things just to say something…
@@Yetabronz get his ass beat by every team mate he's had
The problem stated when they got rid of perez for vettel this truth nobody speaks about it. There is not much wrong with stroll. They threw away a good driver who understood their car and how to help improve the car now instead of saying vettel was a big mistake they rather throw stroll under the bus
Well if the car is bad too, Checo would not be able to perform to his best ability?
name: Racing Point --> Aston Martin
design to copy with lack of understanding: Mercedes -> Red Bull
LMAO! Truth there!
It’s all Lawrence fault no one else and that’s why I feel for Lance and Seb
Absolutely! Btw we are thinking to create another video about Aston Martin / Stroll ! What else would you like us to include? :)
Lawrence Stroll and Toto Wolff are good friends. Nuff said.
"Good" friends
Man, I miss force india 😔
We all miss those days
Dont forget, stroll also destroyed williams. When he joined the williams, williams is a midfield with Massa and Bottas as the drivers
Very true
I am not an AM fan, but this video critique is just plain lazy.
You only have to look at the challenges encountered by Mercedes this year and, indeed, by most teams. The cars are all heavier, & slower, and new technological challenges around ground-effects and car stiffness were not adequately anticipated. And, the Mercedes engine simply does not have the pace of Red Bull or Ferrari.
As for Lance Stroll, there should be no question that he has the ability to be on the podium with the right car ... and that goes for most of the drivers on the grid. Look at Hamilton's fall, look at Botas, look at Riccardo, look at Vettel, look at just about any of them. They have all won, and can win if they are behind the wheel of a strong car. Stroll drove well in Austria (has anyone said he did not?) but the car simply doesn't have it. But, that's F1; designs change and team rise & fall.
The team shot themselves in the foot by copying Mercedes. This meant they didn't need to invest in their own designers and engineers so now when they need to do all of development by themselves they can't do it
Fact there buddy
I mean, what could a guy, who only knows how to get money FROM FASHION BUSINESSES, bring into a high octane and super technical racing team. His speech during the launch of AMR22 was so cringy, I couldn't stand to watch him "read" his speech. Shows the guy is only passionate in helping his own son only, not trying to create a great team
Great point there! We are thinking to create another video on Lawrence! What else do you think is interesting we should include?
Bit of an overreaction, allot of the mercedes powerd teams have struggled, teams have bad years even bad decades, this is part of being a sports owner
True, but his leadership could sure be improved!
The trouble I think is wrong with Lawrence Sr is because he has invested alot of his money in the team and heads the investors, he may feel that he is entitled to oversee most if not all the operations into running an F1 team due to the fact of his status and what he has accomplished in other businesses , that is fine if you had been successful in this kind of field before but he has not, totally no experience apart from maybe the marketing side of things but engineering an designing "nope" unless im wrong😕Maybe he should step back and let the people he has hired and invested in to running the team actually "Run the Team" only stepping in if he may feel that the current level of staff and designer's are not up to the level he was hoping for..His constant presence is probably causing more anxiety an rushing then actually trying to solve the problem, but it's his an investors money whom they put there faith in so he probably anxious as well😆
Very true point here! What are some of the lesser known things of Aston Martin and Stroll Sr? Thinking to make another video on it!
Some suggested to share about Otmar Szafnauer.
Anything else you would us to share about? :)
You gotta be an asshole to tell a team of engineers "just steal someone's design" and then get mad when they can't improve on a design that isn't there's to begin with
Yeah that’s the definition of insanity
Great teamwork is about harnessnessing individual creativity and collective expertise. Money is a fantistic lubricant but a terrible motivator.
Absolutely! He needs to give space so people can actually be creative
Mr. Stroll is a businessman, not a sportsman. He only wants to see his money and to have brought Aston Martin into F1. Without the right ambition.
His son is the best example, who has never had to worry about anything.
Yup he for sure is a great business man!
The thing is Lawrence stroll made his fortune in the fashion industry so he is not a real quote of quote businessman and CEO. A tech CEO , an automobile CEO or a financier with the same money would do a much better job.
Very true! Do you think it would he valuable to do another video on LS and his history in the fashion industry?
I tried to like. This video 432 times
Bosses like Stroll remind me of the boss who told me the vacuum interlock system was too complicated so he disconnected it and hit the override button … and … destroyed the experiment… but it wasn’t his fault because the protection system was “TOO COMPLICATED” 😂 what a 🤡
Lol well at least he tried hahaa!
And imagine my frustration talking online with the trolls who hold a different opinion to those expressed in this video. Some people can’t see their own nose. AMR is doomed. Ever try to tell a billionaire how to do something? Don’t ever tell them they are wrong unless you don’t and never want to work for them.
Facts there
Strolls excuse was thinks to him only, his employed were able to survive financially-____-
What a joke! But the entire brand is crumbling
Bosses die leaders win, AM need a leader in whatever form. Stand aside Lawrence, give the reigns (totally) to Seb, let him fire Lance OR sell the team
Who do you think would be a great leader to AM then?
More like the Red Green Bull: I'm an Aston Martin, but I can change, if I have to, I guess
Bad. They used to be a team who punched above their weight
Absolutely! Btw we are thinking to create another video about Aston Martin / Stroll ! What else would you like us to include? :)
Lawrence Stroll is just not reliable for the team!
Yup he’s has failed them so many times
After a lot of not thinking .......yes !
You got that right? What do you think was his worst mistake?
No Lawrence Stroll has not destroyed AM; well at least for now. Lawrence Stroll has made several investments and like all investments made today ... it takes time to mature and be fruitful. They're rebuilding a larger team and they will go backwards before going forwards. Even Lawrence Stroll has said it's a 5yr plan and we're just into year 1. The only two problems I see is that AM is gaining a reputation of copying but not understanding so that is not a good brand image. Second is the Lance Stroll issue; Lawrence Stroll has anchored that team with Lance and that means they will always compromise family bonds over performance and a winning culture. Lance is a decently good driver but he's just not a championship material as he is a second driver but treated like the first driver.
Great input here! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
YES!
He definitely sent it to the grave! Btw we are thinking to create another video about Aston Martin / Stroll ! What else would you like us to include? :)
I feel really bad for sebestian Vettel... 4x WDC out from Q1 from 3 in row that hurt most
Yup hurts very bad. You think it’s due to the car?
@@gpcentral of course in today race he finished 15 because of that incident with gasly......
I think the team always try to give stroll the better strategy and ruin seb's race
Very sad to hear that always!
Think they call it copying
yup
I think He should sell to Audi, His F1 dream won't become reality with the current Mindset and starte of the team...
The Problem with a Copy and paste Car is, that you don't understand the concept as Well as the Team, so you can't get The Most Out of it. And you are Always at least one Upgrade Spec behind.
Very true, you can never be ahead if you only copy.
He doesn't know very much about pro racing honestly. Money doesn't mean everything Mr. Pennies. But LS might hire a good and capable AM CEO who knows about this business.
Very true indeed! He definitely needs someone on his team with the know how!
Btw we are thinking to make another video on LS! What else do you think we could include?
About Alonzo I contract and how AM us repeating the story compared to Seb
Lawrence should have never been in charge. He has repeatedly stolen designs, favoured the wrong driver and look where it has gotten him. Lance should be left do deal with potential issues on his own instead of with his fathers credit cards help. This will grow him as a sportsperson, man and maybe his skill in the car too. If he was forced to improve by not having a garunteed seat maybe he could go on to be a better driver 🤷♀️
True that! Maybe he would actually put in more effort then!
And now they have become a Mercedes with Redbull wings; the kid of Mercedes and Redbull
LMAO! Tell me about it!
Yes he has 100% and I am feed up of Sky f1 not talking about how bad Lance is and only for Daddy's money he would not have a drive ! Like they ware very happy to say about Mazapin .. another good is question is has Daddy Destroyed Lance as well
Now that’s a different perspective. Lance does has potential we feel, just not championship material yet