How To Remove Old Vinyl Or Linoleum Flooring | Kitchens and Bathrooms
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As part of a larger bathroom remodel I need to remove multiple layers of old vinyl and linoleum flooring to get ready for new vinyl plank. I will cover the different options you have when approaching a floor removal project to get the best results for your DIY kitchen or bath remodel.
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You inspired me.... to hire a contractor.
I am laughing in joy as I watch this. My father had 3 rental houses and insisted on doing The Best work on them. In the early 1970's he had the same issue, also pulled up the 1/2 inch subfloor. The results were beautiful.
I miss my Dad very much and watching you show the same type of explanation and excellent work makes me very happy.
Great video, showed the full process with no BS.
Your channel is very helpful, I've found the go to channel for doing home repairs & remodeling.
this is a great explanation of what is to come from lifting and removing pieces... i appreciate that.
Scott, about 23 years ago a contractor has installed marble tiles I both bathrooms but he installed it without removing the linoleum that that set straight on concrete. It is holding very well but I always have that on mind and think about it often that it was not properly prepared. Thank you for sharing your video
Oh man 🤦♂️ I would also would not be a fan of that install.
Good video. It is worth mentioning the possibility of asbestos in the backing of sheet flooring. Not a bad idea to test before scraping it off the sub floor.
Maybe test for lead too?
When I was installing plank vinyl flooring professionally we would evaluate the linoleum or sheet vinyl already installed and if it was solid we would often apply the planks directly over it rather than removing it. Especially if it might contain asbestos fibres. The contact adhesives we used were more than enough to lock the new and the old flooring together. Where there was damaged sections on the old flooring we could often just fill and seal those areas with caulk and or use cut off sections of the planking we were installing and use that for backing. We never received a call back on any installations we did in this manner. It was a solid interlocking product so was quite rigid in itself once installed.
I have a question that can be answered by both of you (The video maker and the owner of the comment I'm replying to) or anyone with experience on tnis. Does the 1/4" plywood where the Linoleum sheet was glued to needs to be replaced or is it ok (or even proper) to place the Vinyl planks directly on top of the main 3/4" subfloor? I just had Homedepot install vinyl planks on my entire second floor and they didnt replace the thin plywood in the bathrooms, they just put the planks directly on top of the subfloor. That left me a little uneasy. There is no extra layer of protection for humidity or water. The vinyl is good quality ( Lifeproof 7mm thick water proof with underlayment attached) but still it seems wrong. I think some vinyl companies requires no more than 3 layers of any kind of flooring so I'm not sure if they could've installed the Vinyl on top. Technically without the Vinyl plank I only had 3 layers: subfloor, thin subfloor and linoleum sheet. I think they wanted to finish the job quicker, so they ripped out the thin plywood with the Linoleum still glued to it instead of using the heat gun to only remove the Linoleum sheet. Can you guys give me advise on this?
@@aafunmedia It's all about the condition and quality of the sub floor. If it is level and solid the new flooring can be installed directly over it. If the top layer with linoleum (or vinyl flooring) was thin plywood then removal of glued vinyl could damage it to the point of not being worth repairing before installing the new flooring where-as removing both the vinyl and thin plywood could be a better solution if the thicker sub floor is in good shape. It could also be an issue of the height of the finished floor in relation to the adjacent flooring in other rooms. For example matching the finished flooring levels between rooms. I hope you have a good warranty if anything should go wrong but it will probably be fine as long as the new flooring was properly installed.
@@aafunmediaYou never install a vapor barrier under LVP. It will cause mold/mildew on the underside of your LVP if there is standing water long enough to penitrate your click lock.
I recently discovered 103 year old original wood floors under about 5 layers of carpet/lineouleum. I was hoping for a quicker method (without cutting🤪). I guess thats why they call it a labor of love 😅💪🤙
If you have the opportunity, screw down the 3/4 in. subfloor along the floor joists with 2-1/2 in screws so as to remove any creaky sections. Little extra work but worth in the long run. I eliminated many creaks in the house as we had all the flooring throughout the house replaced.
I like it!
Love the Harbor Freight reference. Save money while you can.
I started pulling my flooring many years ago but a lightbulb went off in my head that the floors might have asbestos. I am so thankful that I had it tested as they had asbestos and the tester told me DO NOT REMOVE myself.
just wet it thats all the abatement people do i use to do it for a few years
They tell you not to remove it so you pay them 3k to do it lol. You can do it yourself with all of the precautions they take for a few hundred bucks
@ Vincent - Did better than that. Put new flooring OVER the old lol.
Glad i came across this. We just moved into a 1948 home and out house siding has asbestos. I wish I can get it removed for it’s expensive!! Some regrets purchasing old home, but that’s a different story lol. Anyway we are doing our small kitchen on our own and the flooring is next. Didn’t think of asbestos on the floor. We might have to just put over current floor. Especially cause we have a new baby at home. What flooring did you have before and what did you do after??
@@GraceCastro54 - my old flooring was linoleum. I put down ceramic tile over the linoleum and have had zero issues. Good luck!
We used a couple of roof shingle removal shovels to pry up the subfloor. Worked great!
Nice! I like it and thanks for the feedback 👍
Vinyl came up easily except from the edges of floor where the glue was used. Hadn’t tried the heat gun - thx for that. I have enough subfloor to pull out everything if I need to. Helpful Vid. New sub. 👍
Fantastic video. You are very easy to follow. I've subscribed.
I have that same HF toe kick saw. Was 40 bucks, I used it for 5 minutes total, and was 100 percent worth it.
Great video - I discovered 2 great solutions for removing the paper and glue. 1, using basic Denatured Alcohol in a spray bottle. 2, the best way, is use a hand planer with vac attachment. Fast! (the $40 one from HF worked fine). Always wear a respirator, face protection and gloves.
I removed and reinstalled all the trim in my house using the Zenith trim puller. Wide face helped easily pull all the trim without damaging. Much easier than the pry bar method in my opinion
I have seen those for years but never pulled the trigger. Thanks for the feedback 👍
@@EverydayHomeRepairs love your videos, I refer to them constantly when doing my own work around the house or if any friends or family need a resource, I send them to your channel. Keep up the great work!
Came to say the same thing. It works amazingly well if you want to remove trim intact.
Agree, the Zenith trim puller is worth every cent if you are going to be pulling trim and it is important to be able to reuse it. Does a phenomenal job.
Great video. For me easier said than done
Great stuff, Thank You Sir
I was going to replace the vinyl flooring in my bathroom but I changed my mind after watching this video lol
Same here 😂 either that or just leave the toilet where it is??
Good clear video. Very helpful.
Thanks!
Thanks again showing toe kick saw i have not heard of this tool
I don’t use it much but when these projects come up it is a huge time saver. You can also rent one from some of the Home Depot stores
@@EverydayHomeRepairs you have informative videos and tonight was another example of educational video talking about toe kick saw
Hey thx much. Cool toe kick saw. DIY here.
Unrelated to this video but I finally got the opportunity to use wagos today at your recommendation. Just wanted to say thanks they really are a game changer.
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Great video.Thank you.
You bet!
Man, you work fast brother.
great video. you're the real deal!
Hi Scott, do you think I can install porcelain tiles over the 1/4 inch underlayment plywood after the vinyl floor and the glue were removed? The 1/4 inch underlayment was glued, not nailed down like yours, to the 3/4 inch subfloor plywood. Or do I also have to remove the underlayment 1/4 inch plywood and the vinyl floor together and put the tiles over the 3/4 inch plywood subfloor? Thanks.
Great video. You mention safety issues...but knees don't last forever.
sub floor vs under layment?
thoughts asbestos in flooring or glue?
I was told be careful with old linoleum 9x9 tile that has a black tar looking glue, which I had tested for asbestos but lucky for me came back negative. But in any case a good respirator, safety glass, and gloves are always a good idea during demolition. 🖖
Very nicely done! The disappearing tub/shower surround around the 2:45 mark... haha Was wondering how you determined the sub flooring was 1/2 inch... now I know! 🙂
Check it at the heat register.
Awesome instructional video! I am just getting ready to replace a kitchen floor will glued down vinyl that the contractor used roofing nails to hold the plywood down. The nails have been popping up since 3 years after the renovation but I have tried the heat gun and scraping with very poor results. The other problem is that the contractor had gutted the kitchen and installed the cabinets before the plywood flooring. The cabinets are so low that it was a struggle to replace the dishwasher. I also have to redo 2 original from 1962 bathroom floors that have 9” square glued down linoleum. My question is should I just remove the plywood and replace it? When I pull up pieces on the linoleum it has a black adhesive that is very difficult to try to scrape off. Thanks for the great videos. This one appeared on my feed just as I am getting ready to start the same project.
Oh man, I ran into that dishwasher struggle many time in the past where the floor is built up too high 😡
@@EverydayHomeRepairs when my parents had the kitchen renovated the floor was taken down to the ship lap on top of the joists. They did not put the plywood floor down until after the cabinets were installed. Last week my dog peed on the floor by one of the cabinets and it pooled against the cabinet then started to drain away. I was in the basement at the time and noticed a small puddle on the floor. I was checking to see if it was from the laundry tub and then my head got dripped on. I could see a stain on the ceiling tiles and liquid dripping. My first thought was a leaking pipe to the kitchen so I cut 4 ceiling tiles out. No pipes there. Then I thought maybe the pipes to the kitchen sink were leaking. I came upstairs and found the dog pee. Would you suggest removing the cabinets and re flooring the entire kitchen then reinstalling the cabinets?
That tub looks familiar. Ohhhhh yeah it is the tub in the last video.
Brilliant!
Thanks!
I have a question, Does the 1/4" plywood where the Linoleum sheet was glued to needs to be replaced or is it ok (or even proper) to place the Vinyl planks directly on top of the main 3/4" subfloor? I just had Homedepot install vinyl planks on my entire second floor and they didnt replace the thin plywood in the bathrooms, they just put the planks directly on top of the subfloor. That left me a little uneasy. There is no extra layer of protection for humidity or water. The vinyl is good quality ( Lifeproof 7mm thick water proof with underlayment attached) but still it seems wrong. I think some vinyl companies requires no more than 3 layers of any kind of flooring so I'm not sure if they could've installed the Vinyl on top. Technically without the Vinyl plank I only had 3 layers: subfloor, thin subfloor and linoleum sheet. I think they wanted to finish the job quicker, so they ripped out the thin plywood with the Linoleum still glued to it instead of using the heat gun to only remove the Linoleum sheet. Can you guys give me advise on this?
I removed a peel and stick floor and had the same issue. However I used a product called Sentinel Formula 626. This is an adhesive remover and it works phenomenally. I don't think it had much of an odor at all as well. Probably would have saved you so much hassle ripping subfloor up.
Thanks for the feedback Sam!
How do you apply the liquid ?
@@srjr2531 I think I just used a cheap squeegee to spread it around, but I also used a lot of product to really saturate the area.
@@samuelfeguer so you just wet the linoleum then proceeded to remove it from the sub floor ?
@@srjr2531 No. I used this product to saturate the paper backing and glue left behind after peeling the linoleum off the floor.
If you plan on installing tile, is there any concern with it being raised above the hall floor? Any tips / tricks there?
For a newbie like myself. How does one handle the vinal being placed on a smooth cement-like floor?
My local Home Depot also rents out toe kick saws at around 30 bucks per day (or 20 if you can get it back within four hours).
We have cement with vinyl sheet flooring. The vinyl pealed up okay but it left paper stuck to the cement. We poured water over the entire floor to saturate the paper.
Could you just go over top of the vinyl with the new flooring?
I want to install porcelain floors in bathroom. My Deed says that my condo floors are made of 3/4" Light Weight Concrete (LWC) on top of 3/4 Plywood subfloor. I have not yet removed the ugly old vinyl sheet flooring to see it. What should i expect to have to remove ? Do i need to remove the LWC or leave it ? Do i need to use a cement backboards if there is LWC already ? or nothing ? I read that LWC is prone to cracking so i am worried if reflooring the bathroom project means removing all that LWC first or leave it.
🙋♂️SCOTT…many of these tools were Not available in my days and some I didn’t know about
But my MAXIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN…better to have a tool and not need it…THAN TO NEED A TOOL AND NOT HAVE IT 😁😍😍😍
I have an area outside my shower where the wood trim looks rotten and about 6 inch area of linoleum is discolored. Can I just replace That area. Not the entire floor
Hello, would you want to check the vinyl for asbestos? Just wondering.
Probably not a bad idea.
omg i just did this yesterday
Fun times 😁
If your original vinyl sheet floor is in good shape, well glued down, no plywood rot and the extra height of your new plank flooring won’t be a problem, couldn’t you just leave it there? I left mine in when I laid a new vinyl plank floor over it about a year ago, as well as a dimpled membrane 1/4” thick between them for any humidity. Where the new floor and the hallway hardwood floors meet is virtually flush now, as there was a large dip before.
Yes, it can be left to put vinyl overtop.
You work so hard😅
Where do I use the tester?
What all tools do I need
Hi, I am removing the vinyl flooring in my restroom and possible the subfloor. Is there a sealer I should apply on the new subfloor prior to laying the new plank flooring?
Most people just use floating vinyl plank flooring which can be installed directly on your smooth and level subfloor. I often install 1/4 plywood to make sure everything is perfectly smooth. If you install glue-down vinyl plank like I did you will need to apply the glue prior to installation.
Are you gonna replace the wood sub floor you took out or just proceed without it?
I will put 1/4 sanded plywood on top to ensure everything is perfectly smooth prior to vinyl plank. I should have a video out after a little more work on the tub, drywall, and paint.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs what if you are putting a 12 x 24 tile, will you still replace the subfloor with 1/4 plywood?
Any recommendations on removing vinyl glued to linoleum?
Ended up just using a 14 inch long razor scraper with a hammer spot and went smooth. Tougher areas quick heat gun and I took me 3 hours to do 225sqft.
What happens if you just tile over linoleum sheet?
You forgot your rubber gloves.You can also use the sponge to remove the water in the p-trap of the water closet.This will avoid water leaking all over the place.Good content and Thanks for posting.
How much time did you have in this total minus the video
Goodness... How many nails did those idiots think they needed to hold down that piece of plywood? Lmfao
If Nathan For You was a Home Reno show
I replaced the vinyl floor in my kitchen. It was only partially glued down, which let to waves in the flooring. The parts that were glued down, were almost impossible to remove. Since there were only a few areas like that, I got a floor sander and simply sanded the offending areas down to wood. Worked great, little effort, and was very fast. Yes, I did check, it was not asbestos flooring.
Out of curiosity how do you check if it's asbestos? I'm pulling up my old flooring in the bathroom and didn't even consider that but the house was built in the '80s and there are two layers.
@@jlaman19 You can break it and see asbestos fibers, or send it off to be tested. Google for testing locations.
So Funny. I came on here to find out about removing old vinyl flooring and we have the exact same pattern.
This is an excellent video for us DIY'rs but how do I get 2 layers of linoleum flooring (1st layer is sheet linoleum, 2nd is 12x12 self stick squares) off of concrete? I was thinking heat tool but a bit leery about that. Haven't ever removed linoleum from concrete slab so I'm not sure if being leery is too paranoid or not. I just want to pull this "junk" up so bad to put down either porcelain plank tiles in my kitchen, or even better, some kind of bamboo flooring which may not be possible on a concrete slab in a mid atlantic coastal environment. It feels like I'm on concrete anyway when in my kitchen so with the way my floor looks now, I'd be totally fine with bare @$$ concrete until I can figure out the best floor solution for my condition over the way it looks now. It's awful if that helps to get some advice from others. 😛
Depending on the age of the house or dwelling , linoleum or floor tile, as well as, the mastic or glue should always be tested for asbestos before you begin a project such as this. Not knowing if the material contains asbestos could expose the remover to harmful asbestos fibers. Asbestos fibers released into the air can float for weeks.
I removed linoleum. There is a sheet of paper left behind. Do I have to remove this to put down vinyl adhesive tiles?
Yeah, if you don't pull that up your new tiles will not have a good look. Heat gun can really help scrape up the left behind paper and residue.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs ok thanks!
How is this easier. You could have just peeled the linoleum then covered with 1/4 Luan since you would have to redo it either way.
Nice shot of the random pubic hairs on the floor, LOL.
Wow that is a lot of work! I think I'd rather move... 😂
😂
"You don't know what's in this old flooring"
I do. Asbestos.
Given the fact that there are two layers, and the older layer is definitely a 70s design, the chances are extremely high that the backing has asbestos.
You should always have a sample of each layer tested for asbestos by a certified lab before doing any demolition.
If it does test positive, it should be removed by a licensed asbestos abatement contractor. It isn't cheap but they will remove the subfloor and do it in such a way as to not contaminate the house and injure themselves.
Make sure you get a competant company. The one my insurance company recommended were idiots. They pulled up 2 sheets of linoleum with a bottom glue layer that tested negative for asbestos. Them they pulled up a beautiful 60 year old 3/4 on oak tongue a d groove floor to leave me with the bare 45 degree subfloor with cracks in between the boards that allowed the asbestos dust from the demo to fall into my dirt basement and on everything I had stored underneath. They came back and tested the fresh dust on top of things I had just put there and found asbestos. They then spent a day cleaning the dirt in my basement under the kitchen (as if asbestos dust falls straight down) and as many items as they could, but in doing this sucked air from the basement up through the bare sub-floor in the kitchen and may be spread it throughout the house. It was a nightmare and they acted like I was just being picky. Company was out of Athens, Georgia. Be careful who you trust.
no idea why he white under the toilet vinyl sheet if he was going to remove the vinyl sheet anyway.
Don't you just hate when you've gone to all the trouble to remove the fiberglass shower, and as soon as you turn around to start removing the floor trim, the shower magically reassembles and re-installs itself! Fortunately, in this case it magically un-installs itself again. Whew!
Comic genius
Close your eyes and it’s Nathan Fielder
I missed the part where you pulled the tub/shower
It is in his last video: czcams.com/video/JU4QqYtDX2U/video.html
Different video from yesterday. You can find it by going to my channel and then the video tab 👍
Handling that toilet w/ no gloves!!?? LOL
I’ve done worse 😂
Should of stuck with the heat gun i think
How to remove old laminate.... You don't just take up the sub...
Put some heat on it.
How to remove linoleum: replace the entire fucking subfloor
😎👍👌✌️🖖🤓
I always hate how was is poop colored 😅
...you certainly skipped over pulling out the tub pretty fast
My guy all you had to do was use a floor scraper to remove the old vinyl paper
I'm sorry, I found the video depressing because it represents an insane amount of work. As I get older, I would not wish this hard labor on anyone.
Uh.. okay?
He enjoys what he does
It’s pretty fun tbh especially if you’re getting paid to do it
I’m getting a bit creaky at 60 and this looked like a lot of fun.
😂😂😂
Nobody in their right mind is gonna remove the plywood, just lay on top of what you got and get it smooth as you can
I can't make it look smooth, it's too damaged and wavy and the video is useful for me
I’m having someone install flooring. They don’t install over the old floor. When the apartment went condo they half-assed a floor over the existing floor. That’s two floors I have to demo.
@@Lori_in_CT I'm currently putting down linoleum and tiles in apartments and sometimes they'll be 2 or three layers on floor, you can lay on top of it and it will be fine, but don't remove it if it won't come up easily
@@jurnaginThank you for the advice but as I said the company installing won’t install over existing flooring.
@@Lori_in_CT oh, be careful , I don't know you're situa but there's plenty of people,,/contractors that makes the work harder than what it is just to get more money out you, there's so many ways to get the same results,
No knee pads. You’ll regret that in years to come.
Meaning no offence, but are you an albino?
Your eyes look kinda funny.
(Hope Im not offending you)
I want to know how to remove linoleum, not how to tear my bathroom apart. The first half of this video is a complete waste of my time. I'm not watching the rest.
Jesus dude wear gloves when you're touching the blackwater side of the toilet! 🤮
Dude hands can be washed unless it’s something u don’t do..
@@MistyAlago You can get infections from working with blackwater piping and getting small cuts or scrapes on your hands. So. No. Still gross.
Holy shit. I literally have that EXACT flooring in the bath I'm demoing. Color and pattern are exact. 1978? Also, I strongly recommend that you have your flooring and mastic tested if it is older than 1980 due to the very high potential for asbestos to be in the flooring or the mastic. If you have asbestos in that flooring or mastic, DO NOT SAND, GRIND, or CUT WITH AN OSCILLATING TOOL. Good idea to spray with a water bottle as you go to keep the friable asbestos from entering indoor air and exposing your household.