THE INCREDIBLE HULK - MOVIE REACTION - FIRST TIME WATCHING
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The thing with Hulk is he is a sympathetic character. When Bruce transforms, Hulk is his own being and really wants to be left alone and doesn’t hurt anyone that are innocent. However, he has to fight whoever is attacking him whether it’s the army, villains, and even heroes because they all believe he is a monster but tries to do good. Stan Lee based him off of the Frankenstein monster in that they are misunderstood and treated poorly by everyone.
Thank you for saying Frankenstein's monster instead of just saying Frankenstein.
And Jekyll and Hyde.
I'm sorry to be such a bad nerd but. Umm actually. You are right the Hulk is his own character in that he is a fragmented part of Banners psyche. When Banner was a child he and his mother were brutally abused by his father and while I'm pretty sure he never developed full blown MPD, the serum did bring forth the Green Hulk persona. The green hulk persona being the physical representation of unchecked nuclear power (a huge fear at the time the original comics were being made) as well as being paired with the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde type of character trope.
I would full well love to say that Hulk never fought anyone good but even Stan Lee has said that as a result of his wild rages he was often depicted as the peoples hero in one comic only to be enemy #1 in the next weeks. Even in this movie at General Ross tracks Bruce's episodes by the reports and body counts. Collateral damage is a very big thing with the hulk as he takes down entire buildings when he fights. But through it all even with General Ross hunting him across the world and never being able to rest because of one bad guy or another the person Hulk hates most is Banner. "Puny Banner" "Weak Banner" Because he couldn't protect himself or his mother when his father killed his mother. And Banner hates Hulk the most because he fears him and quite frankly he, barring magical and even then that's iffy, can't die, but the body count keeps climbing and the ghosts in the closet never get any quieter.
@@mystchevious1129 Sorry to be even nerdier, but...
Bruce has full-blown DID (which hasn't been called MPD since 1994). Dr. Leonard Sampson, the guy Betty's dating in this movie, addresses the condition at length in the comics, most notably in Immortal Hulk. Each Hulk he turns into is its own identity, with Big Guy being the most well-known. Also, it's not that hard to kill them, especially if they're in Bruce's body at the time. He definitely dies at least once in the MCU (the bridge), probably died jumping out of the helicopter in this movie, and there's a possible past death mentioned in Avengers. The thing is, when a gamma mutate dies, they're able to walk back out of super-hell and come back to life. Bruce is willing to accept death, but the others aren't, which is why he almost always comes back either as Big Guy or Devil.
He also based him off Dr Jekyll and Mister Hyde, with the double personalities
The security guard he gave the extra pizza to is the OG Hulk from the 1978 show
1977-1982 my man. Sorry for the correction 😁
Yep. That's Lou Ferrigno. He also voices the Hulk in the 2008 movie.
Yep, I lot people don't know that. He's the original Hulk. Lou Ferrigno.
In the days before CGI, they just gave big Lou a wig and some body paint.
Plus Bill Bixby who played Banner in the series appears on the TV near the beginning and Paul Soles who plays Stanley voiced the Hulk, Happy Hogan in the sixties and Spider-Man also in the sixties and in the 1979 series Spider-Woman.
When Hulk says "Leave me alone." it gives me chills everytime.
Too bad she missed it :(
7:19
The reason Buce becomes the Hulk so fast -- in the opening credits sequence! -- is because this was the second MCU movie and they still weren't sure the MCU would be successful. So this film is written as a semi-sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk (2003), but with a different cast. In fact, it used to be possible to buy a DVD double feature that included Hulk (2003) and Incredible Hulk (2008).
That movie covers the origin of the Hulk and the opening sequence basically recaps the events of that movie -- though the origin was changed slightly to reference the Hulk television series (1977-1982), just to make things even more confusing. Hulk (2003) ends with Bruce Banner in hiding in South America, so this movie begins with Bruce in hiding in South America.
Also, another thing I do like about this movie is that they don't make Leonard (Ty Sheridan's character, Bettie's current boyfriend) a bad guy, which is so easy and typical when you have a love triangle. Yes, he calls in the military and narcs on Bruce, but he does it out of genuine concern for Bettie's safety and clearly recognizes he was wrong. It's strongly implied by the later films that Bettie goes back to Leonard after this movie. And, decent, understanding man that he is, he probably takes her back.
I try to tell ppl this same thing and they claim IM CRAZY FOR SAYING ITS A SEMI SEQUEL... FORKING MORONS JUST NEED TO RESEARCH THE MOVIES
@@wolfofthewest8019 Well Ty Sheridan plays Leonard as you say, that character is supposed to be Doc Sampson who also gets gamma-induced powers and hulk like strength in the comics. Just like The Leader, they were setting up for future Hulk solo movies that just never happened. Which is too bad. I would have loved to see Ty Sheridan and Edward Norton teaming up against the Leader (who probably kidnaps Betty to lure Hulk into a death trap or something). I dunno, would have been cool.
That guy on the beginning of the movie, the one that slaps Bruce Banner, he's Rickson Gracie, one of the sons of Hélio Gracie, founder of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu martial art. That guy was an amazing fighter on his youth, he even challenged Mike Tyson for a fight with no rules (Tyson declined). Also, I completely forgot about the scene, and it's always nice to hear Brazilian Portuguese in a foreign movie. :)
And the security guy bribed with pizza is Lou Ferrigno, the actor who was the Hulk in the late 70s TV series.
This is the most underrated MCU movie and had the best depiction of romance in the franchise. They really had each other's back and were in it together no matter the consequences. It was them against the world and you could see and feel it.
Also although I like Ruffalo, Norton was great as Banner too.
And I loved the very memorable, really effective, and moving main theme music as well. It was definitely one of the best scores in all of the MCU. And my personal favorite.
Thanks for doing a reaction.
Also 10:14 the security guard was Lou Ferrigno. The original Hulk.
Steve & Peggy, Tony & Pepper, Peter & MJ and Thor & Jane have a better depiction of romance imo
@@LittleMan27 In your opinion imo.
@@LittleMan27 Steve & Peggy, yes. Tony & Pepper, comparable. Peter & MJ, well, it's a teen romance, which really isn't quite the same. Thor & Jane, not even close.
Ruffalo was a poor banner
A lot of people don't know that I am glad to see that their are people that do.
That third transformation in that lab shows how absolutely agonizing it is for Bruce Banner to transform into The Incredible Hulk. Bones, muscles, and skin growing, shifting and stretching is a visual spectacle in itself as well as horrifying. It's right up there with watching someone in a horror movie transform into a werewolf.
Hulk’s strength level depends on his rage. The angrier he gets, the more powerful he becomes. Which means that once his rage is at maximum, his power will be practically infinite.
I mean, is there even a maximum to his rage. I don't think ive ever heard of it because like most comic heroes, their powers grow (on a whim most times, comics bias that you have to shut your brain off for) to meet the challenge so they don't get annihilated.
@@Humstuck Basically no. The latest upgrade is Titan Hulk when the Hulk "Hulks" out...
@@Humstuck no. its cannon in comics and stated mutilple times by mutiple characters there appears to be no limit to his strength
hell even zeus said "your strength is unimaginable even to an all father"
it's also theorised by several that hulk maybe tapping into some unknown cosmic source or be some cosmic being because he has several weird abilities like an internal coordinate system and the ability to see all astral forms including ghosts
@@vkdeen7570 well that all just sounds really dumb.
@@crankfastle8138 Hulk strongest! lol
I'm the person who liked your comment. 😀
My friend's son wanted to know who is stronger, Hulk or Thanos. I wanted to say "who gives a sh*t", but he's only a young child. So I found him some videos on Marvel characters that could beat Thanos. Everyone else should try and grow up just a little bit. I stopped watching Marvel movies before Infinity War. I will watch it eventually. I got tired of Marvel, it was too much content. When there were two Quicksilvers, I had had it with their movies.
I still have Marvel stuff all over my room though.
the security guard he gives the free pizza to, is Lou Ferrigno a bodybuilder that played the hulk in "The Incredible Hulk" tv show during the late 70s early 80s era
Ferrigno even came back to voice the Hulk in several MCU movies, up until Thor: Ragnarök. :)
And the student in the computer lab that he also gives pizza to becomes Peter Parker's teacher
This is honestly the best Hulk portrayal in the MCU. Norton wanted to continue exploring the dark themes in this film because he liked where it was going, and Marvel was at first all about it, but then they did a 180 and said "lol no, we're making him comic relief", so he left the project. This is why Mark Ruffalo plays Banner in the later films.
The Hulk is a manifestation of Bruce's deep seated anger borne out of childhood trauma that he's repressed. The experiments with the super soldier serum and the gamma radiation just made it into a physical manifestation rather than just a mental one. This also has the effect of making the Hulk stronger the angrier he gets; in theory, there is no upper limit to his strength, depending on his rage level. The madder you make him, the harder it's going to be to stop him, and I love that.
This is also why Abomination was doomed to fall; Abom's strength is about twice that of baseline Hulk, but his power doesn't increase with fury like Hulk's does, so the longer the fight went on, it was inevitable that Hulk would win.
And yes, Sam Stearns is supposed to become a classic comic villain, The Leader, which is hinted at when the contaminated blood drips into his head wound and his head starts pulsating. The Leader is kind of the opposite of the Hulk: physically weak but mentally overpowering, and able to control gamma-rays with his mind.
There's also something very appealing, at least to me, of letting go of all your worries, doubts, and fears, and becoming a giant green rage-monster :P
Yh I personally love this interpretation of Hulk, I’m not the biggest fan of the direction they went with the character for the MCU, they just watered him down.
He’s supposed to be emotionally unchained. He’s supposed to have these animalistic features. I also really like the CGI they did for him. And also Abomination.
I’m a Film guy and someone who hasn’t read any of the comics ( sry ) and so when the characters or story aren’t 100% to how they are in the comics I’m not upset by it, but if I did read them, the very purpose of having a film is that it’s going to be different, it’s going to be unique. It’s kinda like how theres different iterations of comics, not all of em are the same.
I very much like that this interpretation had Bruce having to deal with his anger and to get it under control. It was very much a balancing act for him to keep his cool.
I’m very much a fan the darker, grittier and grounded movies. For example I like Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man the most for those reasons. Don’t get it twisted, Maguire is the OG.
I could totally see a world where both The Incredible Hulk and The Amazing Spider-Man are in the same universe.
Very intrigued as to what She Hulk is going to be about as we see Blonsky. Curious if we’ll see some sort of bridge between what Norton and Ruffalo have done and if we’ll hear what Blondky has been up to ( Prior to his brief appearance in Shang Chi )
Sorry, but most of the OP's post is nonsense. This movie was based on the TV series with some more of the comic book elements thrown in.
At the time this movie was released, the general public was far more familiar with the TV series than the comic version of the Hulk,
Everybody seems to fail mentioning the previous Hulk movie with Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly, it actually sets up why he starts this movie of in South America.
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@@kimleechristensen2679 Yh. If anything that’s the Origin for Hulk in the MCU, this does some nice world building. TIH is more favoured for sure, for many ppl, myself included.
I think the original Hulk (2003) movie actually does an even better portrayal of the Hulk (not to say this isn't great too). I feel that Hulk (2003) and The Incredible Hulk are the only movies in the MCU that actually represent The Hulk faithfully
Notice how big the incredible hulk is compared to the hulk in the mcu
And Notice how much he never stops coming the more you fight the incredible hulk the more powerful he becomes
In this version of his origin, Bruce was working on the radiation resistance when he accidentally overdosed on Gamma Radiation.
They actually used the same machine and chair setup from the television series.
The TV series was so beloved. This movie had the one chance to really give props to that and lay easter eggs throughout. They did like no other MCU movie has ever done. It was beautiful.
This is the original character the INCREDIBLE HULK and this is what Bruce banner looks like and his true love Betty Ross
Since you kept calling him “Bad Hulk” I’m just letting you know that the character’s name in the comics is Abomination. This is why before Dr Sterns agreed to mutate him, he said “The mixture could be an abomination”
And also in the comics, Dr. Stern becomes another villain called "The Leader". Instead of becoming super-strong, he becomes super-smart. His head (and presumably his brain) grows to a much larger size.
@@PhilBagels He’s coming back in Captain America: New World Order.
@@ricardoortiz4870 Interesting.
@@PhilBagelsBetty Ross is also returning.
The Incredible Hulk Film is veeerrrryyyyy underrated
Samuel Sterns (Mr. Blue) in comics is the villain known as the Leader. He was a scientist mutated by gamma radiation like Bruce but he turned hyper-intelligent with a huge head instead of super-strong like Banner. The scene where the drop starts deforming his head probably was foreshadowing his appearance in an hypothetical sequel that never happened.
Every time I see this movie I find it better and now I think it´s better than many of the movies of phase 4 so far.
Samuel Sterns is coming back in Captain America New World Order.
Hulk is one of the Marvel Comics Universe's most powerful characters. Tragically, Bruce's mother died when he was very young, and his father was very verbally and physically abusive towards him throughout his childhood, and Bruce greww up with a lot of repressed anger toward his father. The experiment that irradiated him was the catalyst for his power, but his anger or pain triggers the metamorposis.
The madder Hulk gets, the stronger he gets, thereby making his physical strnegth near limitless.
Two inspirations for his character were the classic novels of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (misunderstood creature) and Dr Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (duality of man and monster).
Bruce Banner spends his life avoiding conflicts and Blonsky/Abomination is that guy who's always looking for a fight, his "next target" and simply never learns not to mess with the Hulk.
Film trivia: the scene where the Hulk brings Elizabeth to the cliff side cave is a reference to the original _King Kong_ (1933) when Kong carries Ann Darrow (played by Fay Wray) to a similar cliff side cave.
I always thought it was a reference to Thor with the thunder and lightening. Hulk and Thor have a history.
@@QuayNemSorr This film takes place in the MCU before Hulk and Thor meet, no?
@@ElliotNesterman True, but they've met in the comics. That was just my interpretation of the scene when he yelled at the thunder. I might have been wrong.
@@QuayNemSorr It's likely that Hulk yelling at the thunder was a nod to their relationship in the comics. I just immediately noticed the reference to Kong in the setting. No reason the director didn't have both in mind.
@@ElliotNesterman I also like how Hulk protected Betty from gunfire. Goes to show that he is big and strong with a heart of gold.
06:39 the isolation shot of his eyes turning, is a direct homage to Bill Bixby's transformation from the television show. Bill is seen in the tv segment of "The Courtship of Eddie's Father" seen earlier when Bruce was having his dinner.
@17:57 The purple sweatpants are a tongue-in-cheek reference to the comic book Hulk who was always wearing purple pants when he transformed.
"he's only a fugitive because you made him one", that line comes back during a scene in INFINITY WAR spoken by James Rhodes to Ross about Steve being on the run.
Everything Ross does in the MCU is wrong. He's the longest-running villain in the MCU.
Hey Spoilers I guess
Dude! Please don't talk about plot points in movies she hasn't seen yet. That is one of the most uncool things to do.
Like actually delete this I dont understand why people do this
The best MCU film in my opinion. I love it so much. It's actually one of my favorite movies.
This depiction of Hulk is more accurate than the watered down Ruffalo version. Hulk is a rage machine.
Don't forget about Eric Bana's Hulk from 2003. That one might be the most comic-accurate Hulk that's ever been put on-screen.
I definitely like this hulk better. I prefer ruffalo as Bruce though.
@@kevinnorwood8782 you know asside from him getting bigger for no reason as he got stronger
@@shaundad16 how though? Ruffalo is probably the least talented actor in the mcu and his version of banner is such a joke 99 percent of the time
@@shaundad16 But Mark Ruffalo and this is a fact, was actually the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in this movie.
The security guard at Culver University is Lou Ferrigno the actor who played the Hulk in the 1970s series.
Just so you know the security guard he gave the free pizza too, was the actor who played the hulk in the original TV series. A little something extra for hulk fans.
And the other guy he bribed with pizza is one of Peter Parker's teachers in the later films, the head of the Academic club
Lou Ferrigno is also the voice of the Hulk in this movie.
When the mcu first started; I knew they had rumored they were all going to be connected. I didn't get too excited because it had never happened before. But the end credit scene in this movie was what really got me excited because for the first time ever a superhero from another move showed up and my mind was blown. This lit the fire in my heart for the MCU.
Gotta say, Hulk in this movie is the best we see him for me in the MCU. But we also spend a lot of time with him to. Growing up watching the tv series this just feels like it keeps to that version of hulk the most, which is how I remember him most.
Have ro agree especialy the cave seen that just reminds me of the old cartoons i dont like his controled avenger version i like the on the run and in love hulk
I agree, watching the television show with Bill Bixby, this is such in tune with it.
Hulk was supposed to have a bigger role in the Avengers. Marvel thought they had Norton/Tyler pretty much until Endgame. Who would turn down the kind of money they were going to throw at them? Edward Norton, that's who (commonly said to be one of the hardest actors to work with in Hollywood). Lol. After Norton said he was only doing 1 film, they had to find a replacement (Ruffalo) and put Hulk on the back burner while giving Spiderman and Thor more prominent roles. At least that's my understanding of the entire character design change once Ruffalo took over to "smart Hulk"...
Norton himself is a big Hulk fan, and read the comics as a kid. He played the character as close to the comic as he could. He wanted to do an additional 2 "dark" Hulk films (think a Hulk trilogy like The Dark Knight with Christian Bale). The studio wouldn't back him. Norton wanted an enormous budget, for a very "risky" high concept film. They wouldn't give him what he wanted because it cost too much, and gave him too much control, so he walked.
"In 2010, shortly before announcing The Avengers at the San Diego Comic Con, Feige released a statement clarifying why Norton was let go. “Our decision is definitely not based on monetary factors,” Feige said, “but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members.”
In response, Norton’s agent said in a statement that Feige initially wanted the actor to continue playing the Hulk, and that the decision to let him go “seemed to us to be a financial decision.” He called Feige’s comments “mean-spirited, unprofessional, disingenuous, and clearly defamatory.”"
Imagine if they'd just let Edward Norton do whatever he wanted for 2 more "Dark Knight" styled films. This was "Batman Begins"...
@@B_B-420 that would have been a great trilogy.
I definitely think it is an underrated movie and it is actually one of my favourites in the MCU.
I think I prefer still Edward Norton's take on Banner and Hulk, even if I'm used to Ruffalo by now. I can't help thinking about how the later movies might've been with Norton's Hulk. Glad you liked it too!
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was originally the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in The Incredible Hulk.
Little known fact/rumor: During the lightning storm when Hulk and Betty were in the cave you can see in the distance you can see Thor falling from the sky after being banished from Asgard
This movie was a tribute to the 70's TV show, the Music in the background when Bruce is getting to the Mexican town is the main theme of the the TV show, the name of the tune is The Lonely Man, just in case you want to hear it. One of the students recording the video of the fight in the university is Jack Mcgee, one of the characters on the show, a reporter. You can also see when he is in Brazil, that scene when he is watching TV, Bill Bixby(he played Banner) and Lou Ferrigno(the big security guard with the pizza) he was the Hulk. Even the accident in the opening scene was portrait the same as in the show. It's a shame this movie is so underrated.
The angrier Hulk gets the stronger he gets and there is no limit supposedly. That is why he is the strongest Avenger. This leads us to one of the most consistent truths of the Marvel universe.........You shouldn't oughtta hurt Betty.
Rest in peace, William Hurt (the man who played General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross). Also, Mark Ruffalo, believe it or not, was the director's original choice to play the Hulk in this movie. Pretty interesting. Well, next up is Iron Man 2, then you have Thor and Captain America's respective origin films, and then The Avengers. You're halfway through Phase 1.
"The incredible Hulk" series of the ´70s is very sad... especially the Show theme song "The lonely man" played at the end of every chapter...
As far as "Bad Hulk" (properly called the Abomination) 's fate goes, there is a brief mention of him in the Marvel TV show Agents of Shield. During season one, someone mentions that he is in a cryogenic cell, under constant guard.
It is this Hulk that we want to return to the movies. Strong, powerful and dark and not this goofy, nerfed selfie-lover.
Most people consider “Iron Man” to be the start of the MCU proper, but this was intended as the ‘official’ first film of the franchise.
The vast majority of fans completely ignore this movie for some reason however. Even if they do acknowledge it, it’s usually their least favourite in the franchise.
There was another version of the origin story several years before this one, directed by Ang Lee and starring Eric Bana as Bruce, simply titled “Hulk”. It was a bit more experimental in film style and is largely forgotten by MCU fans, but might be worth a look, if only for it’s curiosity value.
I was living in Toronto during the summer when this film was being shot (sorry, that wasn’t really Harlem, but actually downtown Yonge street) and saw up close many of the props used, like damaged vehicles and US style street furniture.
Yea but this wasnt just intended but its the official start of mcu this film is technicly cannon
People usually ignores this movie because, while being part of the MCU, it was not made by Marvel Studios.
The first Hulk movie has its momments, but was very slow paced and focused a little to much on the characters. It was well done but the tittle of the movie is... well....HULK. The effects for the movie were still very prototype and have not aged well, But the same can be said for the first Spider Man movie. The way Sam Eliot said mutant french poodle pretty much sums up how forgettable the Hulk fight with enhanced canines was. There was a spark of hope (pun intended) when Banner's father turned into the electric monster Zzaxx, but that was quickly thrown aside. Still, it was a good testing ground as to how to do better job in making future superhero movies.
It’s Hilarious tbh. This Hulks affects look better than most mcu rubbish nowadays… im jk you know what I mean😂😂
@@richarddollar4912 that’s because this one was directed by Joe Letteri who is an FX guy by trade.
One of my favorite MCU films. So underrated.
Kind of sucks that this movie, Spider-Man Homecoming, Far From Home, and No Way Home are not on Disney+ in the US.
The Hulk version has combat skills, unlike Hulk who smashed everything in The Avengers.
17:57 The purple pants are a call back to the "Incredible Hulk" comics.
"Was that lightning? That just struck him?" No, I think it startled him, causing him to hit his head on the cave ceiling (for the second time).
Thor foreshadowing.
I love Edward Norton - he's one of my all-time favorite actors. Something about the man always pulls me in ;D This and his uncredited role in Kingdom of Heaven are, honestly, some of my favorites. Red Dragon, too, is fantastic. I wished he had continued on in the series, but he dipped out verrrry early on and gave Ruffalo his blessing.
Fact: Mark Ruffalo was originally the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in this movie.
Yes, he did learn to control it. That's why he was smiling.
Just some fun info for you Addie, the security guard that he gave the pizza to is Lou Ferrigno who played the Hulk in the TV series:)
This is the Hulk we know and love
Not the Avengers' pet/comic relief
I agree with the stranger
Young people haha. You missed the Lou Ferrigno cameo as the security guard. Also the name of the pizza place is a big easter egg to Marvel history. I love the nods to the original TV show and the comics that this movie made plus an epic Stan Lee cameo. These things are misses by a new age of viewers but that's ok. The story still lives.
Just like the lab Mr blue used. It was the same one from that episode of incredible hulk show where David met that other hulk; the bad one.
Yes, the multiple 'tip of the hat' to the television show were great to see.
A pity the first Hulk film didn't show respect to either the show or the comic book origin, i.e. the gamma bimb being the only reason Banner becomes the Hulk.
I've never seen anything more incredible, epic, and hysterical as 17:07 when Hulk yells at Zeus for hitting him with a lightning bolt.
Thor foreshadowing
@@ricardoortiz4870 Thorshadowing?
They gave him a version of the super soldier serum
She doesn't know what that is... yet.
The part where he pretends to be a pizza delivery guy and approaches that security guard... the security guard was played by Lou Ferigno, who played the original Hulk in the TV show from the...70's and 80's (don't recall exactly when the show aired but it was either late 70's or early to mid 80's)
Also the pizza eating guy in the computer lab comes back 10 years later.
@@ianchristmas Mr. Harrington
In the *Agents of SHIELD* tv show they explain that Abomination was placed in suspended animation and kept at a facility called The Icebox. Later (I'd explain how, but its a major spoiler) he escapes and he was last seen in *Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,* where he is participating in superhuman underground fighting. He's supposed to appear in the upcoming She-Hulk series.
Samuel Sterns, the doctor who "cures" Bruce, is a character from the comics called *The Leader.* The comic book character has a giant, oversized brain in a massive head and green skin as a result of exposure to gamma radiation (which gave the comic book Hulk his powers), and is sort of the opposite of the Hulk -- where as gamma radiation made Hulk super-strong, it made the Leader super-smart. He's a super scientist who can read people's minds and control them telepathically. So in this movie, when the Hulk juice drips into Stern's head wound and his head starts bubbling and expanding, that's the origin story of the MCU's Leader. This character has never appeared again, not even a mention. One of several dangling plot lines of the MCU.
Also, there's a one-shot short film in which it's revealed that SHIELD actually wanted to recruit the Abomination for the Avengers, but Phil Coulson thought this was a terrible idea (and it is), so he sends Tony knowing that Tony's ego and smarmy personality will rub Ross the wrong way and make him refuse to cooperate.
This movie gets overlooked so much! I love this movie a lot and the hulk film that stars Eric Bana! I’m glad that you’ve enjoyed it as well!
Though this is the only Hulk movie with Edward Norton in the role, it is still effectively canon to the MCU, as later films do reference events and characters in this movie. For example, in one of the Avengers films, Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner mentions how he "broke Harlem", alluding to this film's climactic fight.
There are varying stories behind Norton's departure, though it is believed that Norton wanted to be more creatively involved in this film, and it's said that he even involved himself in rewriting portions of the film while shooting. Apparently, this upset Marvel Studios, as they wanted to maintain as much of their creative control going forward as they could. That's understandable when you consider how interconnected the MCU films are and how much planning is required to make sure all the dots connect from movie to movie. So rather than deal with this issue going forward, they recast Norton with Ruffalo.
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was originally the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in The Incredible Hulk.
I like how you add just the right amount of flavor to your reactions. Not too saucy but not too stale, you've mastered the art. Lol
Also, you missed the Lou Ferrigno cameo. The original TV Hulk!
I remember seeing this with my dad in a theater in San Diego. I wish I can remember the name of the place because it had an awesome ice cream bar like Cold Stone. It even had a sweet cinnamon flavor which I bought without hesitation. So yummy.
Hulk is my all time favorite marvel heroes and awesome reaction Addie loved this video keep up the amazing work
10:53 The man with Betty is Dr. Leonard Samson. In the comics, he did work on a way to separate Bruce from the Hulk. While working closely together, he and Betty did become close. Leonard did expose himself to Gamma radiation and became a green-haired muscleman. Bruce was feeling abandoned by Betty and tried to commit suicide by detonating the device holding the purged radiation, which only allowed the mindless Hulk to escape.
In order to end the mindless rampage, Doc Samson had to help fight the Hulk and get Banner and Hulk merged again. In the comics, this allowed Banner to become known eventually as the green-skinned Professor Hulk after a long time as grey-skinned "Joe Fix-It" working in Las Vegas.
Leonard, Son of Sam
In the MCU, Bruce modified the Super-Soldier serum but he used Gamma Rays and it turned him into The Hulk. Blonsky took the Super-Soldier serum that Captain America took, then took the serum that Bruce made and turned into The Abomination.
All I can think about when I see "Hulk" is the Family Guy cutaway Where the Guy says "You wn't like me when I'm angry." and the other guy says "I don't like you NOW." 😂
Incredible reaction, Addie. I grew up with this MCU movie since the Hulk is my favorite Marvel comic book character, alongside Spider-Man, Venom, Deadpool, and Shang-Chi (pronounced Shaahng-chee). You should check out The Hulk (2003) with Eric Bana as Bruce Banner & Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross and Fight Club (1999), another movie with Edward Norton in it.
I love Mark Ruffalo and the newer versions of the Hulk, but it’s cool going back and seeing this more animalistic version of the Hulk.
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was originally the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in The Incredible Hulk.
The MCU movie everyone forgets is part of the MCU
Funny cuz I got the chance to watch this movie for the first time last year, and noticed a few “familiar” elements.
The first Hulk comic book was written it was actually an adaptation of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
30:17 - haven't seen it mentioned elswhere in the comments but the package is addressed to "David B." In the 1980s TV show, they changed the name "Bruce Banner" to "David Banner". This package label was a nod to that.
I'm glad you enjoyed this I like it as well hulk is a very tragic marvel character a misunderstood monster who just wants to be left alone but is constantly being forced to fight
The Hulk became a household name in the 70s when CBS approached Kenneth Johnson to do a superhero TV series. Back then it was virtually impossible to do a seriously themed superhero show or movie. (With the exception of the 1978 Superman movie). Plus Johnson didn't even like comic books. But after reading Victor Hugo's "Les Miserables", he decided to re-adapt the Incredible Hulk into a modern version of the novel. Focusing on Dr. Banner and the friendships/relationships he would make while on the run from an investigative reporter. Bill Bixby brought a much needed charisma and charm to the otherwise guilt ridden Dr Banner, whom in the series had his name changed to David. Richard Kiel was originally cast as the Incredible Hulk for his large size, but when he was put into costume and Johnson's son saw him, his reaction was, "That's not the Hulk!' At one point Arnold Schwarzeneger was asked to play the jolly green giant, but was filming "Conan the Barbarian" at the time and had to pass. But he recommended his body building friend/rival Lou Ferigno for the part. While Ferigno was not the size they were looking for, his muscular build and lifetime fandom of the Hulk (In fact the Hulk inspired him to become a bodybuilder) made him the perfect choice. In fact he would go on to voice the Hulk in the MCU and has a cameo in the Hulk movie as the security guard.
Addie, when he was watching Sesame Street, Grover was on , she was one of the muppet monsters. and i had a children's book with her called there's a monster at the end of this book. and she kept not wanting you to turn the page to get the end of the book.
Best on screen Hulk till date,Ruffalo's Hulk/Banner is a joke.
Addie, in the comic books, Bruce always wore purple pants and when he turned into the Hulk those were the only clothes that stayed on , and when the Hulk learned to talk , one of the first thing he said was Purple Pants! because he hated them.
The security guard Edward Norton bribes with a pizza is Lou Ferrigno, the actor who was the original Hulk in Hulk form...
Fun Fact: Mr. Harrington from Spider-Man: Homecoming actually made his first MCU debut in this movie.
Did anybody else notice how Addie’s eyes Flutters and the tone of her voice changed pitch. Hi Tony with a little cheeky smile too lol.
At 7:19 you can actually hear Hulk say "leave me alone" I can't believe I never heard that before!
Ikr 😅
So I searched your posts I'm guessing you haven't seen the First Hulk movie they made before this... that's semi why it jumps. Loved this movie. I was most sad to not have Liv Tyler continue the role but it is what is it. I'm excited after seeing this post of your reaction to see your reactions as this universe unveils to you.
The one with Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly 🤔
@@kimleechristensen2679 yep that one. story was good but lol smh cgi was um...
The incredible Hulk is far better than the current MCU Hulk that we have.
Betty's new boyfriend, Dr. Leonard Sampson, in a minor Marvel superhero in the comics. He gets exposed to gamma rays chasing the Hulk, gets super strength and green hair, but retains his intellect.
Dr. Leonard, son of Sam.
The security guard to let him in is Lou Ferrigno who played The Incredible Hulk, a show from the 70s. Even though it is before my time growing up as a kid during early 90s they were still showing re-runs on regular tv channels.
I love seeing you get invested! Im excited to watch your watchthrough!
The Lightning from Thor first movie... When Thor trying take his hammer. You know... It's all connected.
Proof?
Love watching movies with ya, Addie! You rock, girl....God bless!
Lots of nods to the 70s TV show "The Incredible Hulk," which is incidentally one of my favorite takes on the Hulk.
The opening of this film echoes the opening sequence of the show, they got a cameo from the late Bill Bixby, who played David Banner (renamed from Bruce because an exec didn't like the name Bruce) in one of his other shows when Bruce is channel surfing in Brazil, Lou Ferrigno played Hulk in that show and plays the security guard who gets bribed with pizza here, when Bruce is returning to civilization after his first incident they play "The Lonely Man," the very memorable outro music from the show.
What I love about that series is that, as much as David is afraid of what the Hulk can do, we see constantly that Hulk only uses force against those who deserve it, and then only as much force as necessary to protect himself or others. Stan Lee once talked about how he felt it was very important that Bruce became the Hulk in the comics in a heroic way, hence his original origin of being part of a nuclear weapon test, seeing a kid had driven into the testing range, and going out to throw the kid in a ditch to get him away from the explosion, but Bruce couldn't make it to shelter in time. What the series did was expand on that: David Banner was a medical doctor, his research was about helping people and exploring the limits of the power of the human body. David is fundamentally a good man who doesn't want to hurt anyone. Hulk is David, so Hulk is fundamentally good and doesn't want to hurt anyone.
In the comics, this has not been consistent. Hulk has gone from antisocial to outright misanthropic, depending on the incarnation. This was eventually established to be because Bruce has Dissociative Identity Disorder as a result of an abusive father, and there actually several Hulks who are all his alters. But I generally prefer the idea that Bruce and Hulk are essentially the same person, and I love Bruce's arc in the MCU.
And no matter how many times I see this movie, HULK. . . ***SMASH!!!*** still gives me chills.
Great reaction! 😊
This one of those movies that the more I watch it, the more I enjoy it.
And as much as I love Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner aka the Hulk, I did really enjoy Edward Norton in this movie. I don't remember the exact reason for the recast, but I THINK that Edward Norton wanted more creative say. Not 100% sure on what really happened.
Next up in the MCU: "Iron Man 2".
Looking forward to your next reaction. 😊
That Security guard at @10:13, is Lou Ferrigno, the original Hulk actor!
Fun Fact: Mr. Harrington from Spider-Man: Homecoming actually made his first MCU debut in this movie.
Great review Addie. You ROCK!
24:33 Samuel Stern being exposed to Gamma contamination sets his origin as The Leader. Instead of muscle, he develops mental power. He is one of the main villains of the Hulk. If the movie had been greenlit for a sequel [no pun intended], he was set up as a future antagonist.
The distribution requirement for standalone Hulk movies was ironclad through Universal Studios. Marvel Studios would pay the development costs up front, but Universal got the lion's share of the gate. If the Hulk was used in a team, or even a team-up, he could be used by Marvel Studios in the movies, or used without reservation in television, video games, etc.
Sterns is coming back in Captain America New World Order.
Bruce has the super soldier serum as well, but instead of using vita ray like Abraham Erskine used, Bruce experimented with gamma ray.
Oh and also Betty Ross is not his wife, she's just his girlfriend.
“The serum amplifies everything that is inside. So, good becomes great. Bad becomes worse.” -Abraham Erskine
The security guard that let him in for a pizza, the guy that portrayed the Hulk in the tv show. Think they also used his face for the Hulk in this movie.
Fun Fact: Mr. Harrington from Spider-Man: Homecoming actually made his first MCU debut in this movie.
Hinted at, but no followthrough is that Dr. Blue was turning into the Leader", the scene where his head was swelling up, he's one of the Hulk's greatest arch enemies in the comics
He is coming back in Captain America New World Order.
@@ricardoortiz4870 Yes, saw that!
@@csako2668And Liv Tyler’s returning as Betty Ross.
I think a lot of people overlook the true significance of the bar scene with General Ross and Tony at the end. That scene is one of the most important, pivotal, and thrilling moments in comic book movie history because after this, comic book movies would never be the same again. Over the last 15 years, it's now become extremely second nature that multiple superheroes will be seen in a movie together. Hell, it's expected at this point. But this was the very first time EVER that we saw an already established superhero character from a completely different movie cross over into another hero's movie. Prior to this movie, you never saw the X-Men in a Tobey Spiderman movie! You never saw Superman and Batman in the same movie together! All these characters existed in their own universes. But here, we saw IRON MAN show up in a HULK movie. This showed us that the events in Iron Man happened in the same universe as The Incredible Hulk! It was unprecedented at the time! Yes, the filmmakers teased at the end of Iron Man that they were putting a team together. But now with this scene, these weren't just teasers anymore. It was now CEMENTED that we were gonna eventually see an established universe with a wide array of comic book heroes all coexisting in the same universe and working on a team together! The first time I saw this in theaters, I freaked out the second Tony walked onscreen because I realized we were in a whole new world of comic book movies and it was a hell of a time to be alive for a fan because at this point, ANYTHING was possible. And what a ride it's been since then.
There was a Hulk movie before this staring Eric Banna. While it is not part of the MCU it showed more of the origin story but not the origin story from the comics. Thats why this movie only shows a quick montage of the Hulks origins. Fun fact, the guard Bruce gives the free pizza too is the actor that played the Hulk in the 70s T.V series.
It was the first MCU film I watched when I was a kid. It was nightmares.
The Security Guard muscle guy who lets him in the building is Lou Ferrigno.....He played 'The Hulk' in the Hulk TV Show back in the late 70's to early 80's....
Great reaction addie, love this movie
The security guard that he bribed with the pizza was the original hulk from the TV show, his name is Lou ferrigno and if I'm not mistaken he might have been the voice for the incredible hulk for the movie as well but I could be wrong about that
Fun Fact: Mr. Harrington from Spider-Man: Homecoming actually made his first MCU debut in this movie.
I just started following your MCU journey. Great reaction. Now on to the next one. (I think you have two more out that I can watch.)
Tim Blake Nelson(Mr. Blue) is hilarious in "O Brother, Where Art Thou."
The insinuation was that Mr. Blue would become the Hulk villain The Leader from the comics. But with no further stand alone Hulk movies the idea was probably shelved.
@@danharris5999 He is coming back in Captain America New World Order.
Great reaction 🔥🔥🔥👏🏾
"I have no earthly idea what could beat him"... well you see... There are other planets lol
Hey, Addie - nice reaction, as always. Been enjoying your channel for a while and intended to leave a comment when you dove into the MCU with Iron Man. Glad to see you liked the Hulk - I like Norton in the role here and think Ruffalo does a good (though different) job with Bruce in the later movies but I wish they could have kept the Hulk's physicality from this flick. He's scaled smaller in the newer ones and I prefer his size here. A minor gripe, though. Anyway, glad you're tackling the MCU and I'm looking forward to your journey. Enjoy!
There was a hulk movie before this that isn't part of the MCU. The opening credits of this movie were a general summation of the events covered in that movie that lead to Banner becoming The Hulk rather then retelling the story.
The Hulk can leap two miles at a time. That's how he wound up in Guatemala.
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