Rio Ferdinand - There aren't any world class defenders any more...
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Silva, Godin, Ramos, Chiellini, Bonucci, Boateng, Hummels are all world class, but none of them are like Maldini.
Maldini is king
The Undisputed Boateng is not world class, nor is Hummels.
1234444rbi no way. Godin yes, but Boateng? no way. Plus Chiellini is better than both
Abdullah Alamoudi Wtf? Hummels is world class.
GunnerGameReviewer22 Absolutely not. He has his moments, but pales in comparison to the likes of Nesta, Ferdinand, Vidic etc. Let's be honest, defenders have become absolutely sh*t in the last 10 years or so.
Godin is really underrated
Agreed
Exactly
so is Hummels
rudy liberato i think Hummels has a more glamorous reputation than godin though, not that you're wrong, but he'd be in a lot more world 11's than Godin, and has achieved similar stuff at club level
But it's a diffrent thing if you play for Dortmund than Atletico Madrid. Germany or Uruguay
Chiellini has been at the top of the game for almost 10 years now
Even though his the worst of the Juve back three. Just says how good a defense they got.
And now after the euros this couldn’t be more true
The last great defender I can remember is Puyol.
Pique
Neymar the golden boy lol
Terry
Maguire
He's spot on. I think that it's harder to be a defender these days.
But ten years ago there used to be 5 midfielders defending, now there are often 3. There's a similar trend with attackers, used to be that top strikers would get 20 goals a season, not 30, and they'd be judged mainly on whether or not they could convert the 1 chance they might get in a CL semi final. Compare liverpool's Torres, Milito, Totti, Eto'o, Drogba to the relative playmakers that are suarez, lewandowksi, Griezmann, Messi, Benzema. A prime example is a guy like Higuain, ten years ago he'd have been at a club with a chance of a CL. but that ruthlessness in front of goal, is no longer enough. Rio's right, but I don't think it's a lack of quality in CB's. I think it's a lack of protection.
fordulaad Not true. If you looked at the time and space that midfielders like Lampard and gerrard had to shoot from midfield... it was ridiculous. nowadays the high press game seems the popular choice. it's usually 10 men behind the ball nowadays.
Completely disagree. The fact is, players like Lampard and Gerrard were so valuable because they could shoot from range, because it was much harder to play your way into the box.
That defensive rigidity led to high press being necessary as playmaker a la Jurgen Klopp's Dortmund, because it was easier to win the ball back early than play through two banks of 4. Unless you've got Iniesta and Messi... Of course
fordulaad have a look at premier league goals from the early 2000s. If I hadn't watched them I wouldn't have noticed. The time and space the likes of essien, Lampard, gerrard and even Larsson had to shoot was ridiculous. There was so much space outside the penalty area of the opposition... no pressure whatsoever. Now you have the extra layer of defence via defensive mids... well and truly parking the bus.
I guess this could become overly about perspective, all I do know is that in the Mid to Late noughties, when English teams were forces in Europe, those teams played with two sitting mids ie Alonso and Mascherano. It was the style of the time, and it led Porto, Inter and Liverpool to the champions league. Benitez and Mourinho were at the forefront of this style, and it is their players who you say we're finding loads of space in the Early noughties. So i think we might be talking about the same phenomenon from a different perspective, perhaps?
You are spot on RIO!!!
There are plenty of world class defenders, its just that teams are more offensive now. Teams back in the day used to be more defensive. For Example Real Madrid and Barcelona are extremely attacking, Ramos, Pique....get a lot less cover and protection from wing backs and midfielders than Cannavarro, Jaap Stam did.
football has changed quite a bit
you now have madrid/barca in spain, psg in france, juve in italy and bayern munich in germany, all have been domination for 5-7 years , and really dominate everybody every single game.There is a huge gap in those leagues , and those aforementioned teams are so much better that they can afford not having world class center halves.
Rio is referring to a different era, when most teams played 4 4 2 with 2 defensive midfielders.Now who on earth plays with 2 central defensive midfielders anymore?hardly no one among the top teams in europe.Those 2 defensive mids provided alot of protection to the center backs.And with the fullbacks being more like wingbacks in the past decade, that leaves the center halves even more exposed, especially considering the opposing team had 3 attacking players ready to go at them ( all big teams play with central forward and 2 wingers now).
in england chelsea have been quite successful with 2 defensive midfielders recently, but thats pretty much the only solid example i can give
Name 10 world class defenders in the last 10-15 year for more than one season. I'll do the same for the late 90s early 2000s. Who goes first you or me?
I agree with what he's saying tbh. Godin, T. Silva, Kompany, BBC, Boateng etc... aren't world class when compared to CBs of the past. We just think they're world class because they're the best around these days. But when you compare them to Cannavaro, Maldini, Vidic, Terry, Ferdinand etc... you realise that they're not as great as we think they are. Nice to see we have some potential world class CBs around now like Bailly, Zouma and Varane.
Martin zouma looooooooooooooooool Bailly loooooooooool varane loool
because kids would rather stay at home now and play call of duty or talk shit on facebook or twitter rather than go out kick a ball and make something of their life.
callofpaul Has nothing to do with this but ok...
i kinda agree but thats mainly because football has changed there are still great defenders in the game though
Just tryna be nostalgic, Boateng, Godin, Ramos, Bonucci, Silva are all world class
Alaba is world class
back 3, back 4, centre back, right back you name it.
he played midfield or attacking midfield at the euros. Maldini would have sucked too if he would be an attacker.
When asked why, I was hoping he would say something insightful about the tactical shift today. Not 'cameras, social media, goals'. Managers don't setup their teams thinking about those things.
Ramos, Godin, Mascherano, Lahm, Chiellini
What about Philipp Lahm? But If he is strictly speaking only about Center Halves, then I agree.
What is this show?
thats a bit much, godin, chiellini, bonucci, thats about it, back then it was the same number of world class players. being a defender is a hard job, one slip up ur 1-0 down ur also expected to score goals for corners.
Shut up Rio. Godin, chellini, Bonucci
Compare them to the likes of Puyol, Nesta, Vidic, Terry, and Cannavaro and they're inferior
™ ™ chellini would be in this catergory along with philipp lahm
Qunicy, I excluded Lahmn because he's not a true centre back, can't remember the last time he played in that role. Chiellini I agree with however
man terry and vidic cannot be in the same sentence as nesta and cannavaro
+umut bulut Terry absolutely does. Vidic you can argue was a late bloomer but JT is incredible. Horrible person but fantastic player.
he is right. there are no defensive colossus that are established and respected anymore
john terry is a legend ..imo he has been world class for more than a decade
Also full backs, nowadays, just fucking run off don't they? Who would you rather have next to you Moreno or Evra? Jordi Alba or Maldini? Ps let's not forget that Maldini, Staam and Nesta were all on the pitch as Liverpool scored 3 goals in 6 minutes in a CL final, far from invincible, though they were great players
+fordulaad cmon man
What fam?
Cafu or Marcelo
Boateng, Ramos, silva, godin.... I could go on
You're drunk
Ye and they all compare to maldini, puyol, nesta, cannavaro, desailly, terry... ? You stupid that's the point rio was trying to make
Hummels, chilleni,bonucci,godin,laporte,sule,ramos,pepe and many more there are world class defenders. It's really stupid to say there aren't world class defenders anymore.
Messi and C Ronaldos peak was vs almost 0 world class defenders. Any world class defenders they faced was literally on their last legs about to retire. Defending in the last 10 maybe 15 years I'd all but none existing.
I believe Lahm is genuinely world class, barely ever see him make a mistake.
you watched juventus play recently?
Hummels, Chiellini, Kompany, Thiago Silva, Ramos, Pique, how can you get to champs league & world cup semis & finals without being world class?
ferdinand is the best cb
Chiellini, Bonucci & Barzagli.
+Jamie Lindsay That's a Dangerous back three
+Alex General All three of them are world class.
Defence has to be fluid now because forwards are more mobile.. I mean who can stop Lionel Messi.? Where is he on the pitch?? He's everywhere. How do you defend against that.?
Rio's like "there aren't any world class players now since I retired! Take that John Terry!".......it's tragic.
I like listening to what Rio has to say and agree with him most of the time, but to say there and say Sergio a Ramos isn’t world class is crazy.
Godin is absolutely unbelievable in my opinion Sergio Ramos is world class
Matt Hummels is world class. United Shouldve really tryed harder to sign him. they let him escape to easily.
Azpilicueta Boateng Chiellini Godin Silva Bonucci Barzagli Hummels Sokratis Alderweirald Alves Carvajal Walker Pepe Jimenez Varane THESE ARE ALL WORLD CLASS DEFENDERS!
John Terry
+Ibrahim Abdul not anymore... WAS but not IS
PonitoEleven The thing is John Terry's reading of the game, his timing and his shear fearlessness makes him a world class Cb even without legs. Not to mention his ability to lead a back 4.
Hazapz form is temporary, class is permanent. fair enough.
Yeah because the likes of him Vidic, terry were still playing at the higest level....chiellini,Godin,Thiago silva,
Ferdinand was lucky to play with one
0:42 Maybe the awhat team?
Nacho Fernandez so underrated...
just got recommended this. how'd we know there's this person called van djik from holland coming and stealing the show
And then came Virgil Van Dijk
Football nowadays is a disgrace. Just few top class players
You missed great Godin..
Tbh the only class defender i think that is out there is godin. He does his defensive duties for atletico. Ever since 2011-12 he's been the heart of their defence and they won numerous titles. Plus his stats are tremendous. so yh i think godin is the only one.
Translation: "i was world class. Everyone now is a bitch."
Godin, Chiellini, Boateng, Pique, Ramos, T. Silva, Bonucci, Barzagli and Hummels to name a few ok when you compare them to Nesta, Maldini, Cannavaro, Baresi etc theyre not that level but never the less in the modern era they are world class players and I think their trophies prove that so with all due respect Rios argument is invalid
he's tripping ramos is a brillant defender
Chiellini and ramos are world class
What's wrong with Andy Cole's face?
He's been ill with kidney failure
Thiago Silva...?
you don't see any world class these days then you are never a world class defenders yourself boy.
Only Godin and one or two I cant think of right now but by and large I agree with Rio. If you've got real insight into the game you'd understand. Forget Fifa and CZcams opinions
Hummels I think could walk into any squad right now and I reckon varane and laporte will become greate
Apzi from Chelsea
Toby Alderweireld has been the best centre back in the prem for the past two seasons i think any Top club across Europe would happily have him.There are plenty of World class c backs throughout Europe.I dont think centre backs get as much of the spotlight as your messi's ronaldo neymar bale.Who cares what Rio says anyway he's head has always been up he's own arse! Which is where he's heading in this debate.
There are very few world class strikers either. Lewandowski, Aguero, not many others.....
Luis Suarez
I disagree with Rio Ferdinand, Sergio Ramos is a world class defender nowadays.
Sparodically
i get rio's point - there are no defenders today at the level of maldini, baresi, beckenbauer, cannavaro, puyol, nesta, terry, carlos, cafu, thuram, stam etc. but rio lacks iq so...
His opinion > your opinion = fact
Bonucci
Jerome Boateng?
Did i just crack a joke for you or something?
Boateng is probably one of the best CB in the world
+Fzmh go on then...
+MegaMrimran what the guy who fell over in the semis against messi? what a joke
+Jack Reilly Messi is world class tho does not mean boateng isn't
Chiellini, Terry, Boateng easily. Shame for Kompany.
Mascherano? Or he watches only man united?
They're not world class, they're actually better. The thing is that they're equal now but better
godin ramos kompany
chielinie koscheliny thiago silva
boninucci
the stars of today
demise of the game
Ignorant from Rio to suggest Chiellini hasn’t been every bit as good as Jaap Stam in his career.
Ramos, pique.
to all all the little kids in the comments boateng is not world class. legend says his leg is still brocken after messi broke it
wes morgan
Robert Huth?
good but not world class
chillini and bonucci are world class and both much better than rio. Rio let vidic do all the real defending
Wes Morgan
This guy aint serious ramos had a better carer that u rio and he hasent finished yet 😂
What about Benatia?
Alderwiereld
Raphael Varane
Hummels and boateng, look at boatengs tackle percentage and his over the top through balls
Chiellini and Bonucci are better
Im not starting an argument cuz i like debates but I don't really rate Boateng that much!! He's decent, dont get me wrong but not world class!! Whenever ive seen him come up against quality opponents he's crumbled and defending and playing his normal game!! Forget this season, but John Terry is one of the very few defenders who has been top quality for years!! As good as Chelsea have been, Terry saved them so many games and over so many years!! Im a United supporter btw so im not being bias!! :) Godin has been decent for about 4 years now so if he can carry on for a few more years, he has to be up there with the best!! Puyol used to be my favourite defender :)
*crumbled at defending
Thorin Oakenshield so much better
Isn't not aren't
John terry
Definitely chiellini
Hummels..
Thiago silva
Koscielny
this coming from the most overrated defender in EPL history
Ryan Thompson what Rio is saying here warrants scorn, but to suggest he was anything other than a legitimately outstanding centre back is absurd
who's the bloated malsteaser?
Azpi
Defenders are not world class because of greatest player messi and greatest scrorer cr7
Gamer Zone Maybe those players do well because there is no world class defenders to stop them....
SFAAPK7 well they did amazing when there were so that logic is out the window too.
Let's all be honest players like ronaldo cristiano messi Ronaldinho would tear any defender to shreads.
boateng
What?? Ramos is mutch better than Rio has ever been. Rio has had a ok career but Ramos has had mutch mutch better career than Rio....more important goals more champios leagues, world cup, 2 euros, leagues.... even Pique is better than Rio....
Also Bonnuci is great...
Richard Dunne was average at best.
Godin
koscielny
I agree he's so underrated and overshadowed by other people because he has Mertesacker as his pair.
The stats are shocking and impressive. Without Koscienly Arsrnal tend to lose games more often. With Koscienly more win rate and clean sheets.
+MegaMrimran he's good but he's not WORLD class ..
rio...go home you are drunk
pique has also been very consistent and solid.
Pique is class mate
Type pique vs sevilla copa del rey final and watch the video mate.
And how many pique matches have you seen? I've watched every barca game past 10 years, pique world class.
***** its an example mate. I dont think you follow Barcelona's matches. He is the heart of the defense and has easily been one of the best defenders throughout his career. His defending stats surpass that of ramos almost every season. Its just that ramos scores goals thats why he is considered better.
***** well then who do you consider to be the best during the last 7-8 years?
Rio U Weren't A World Class Defender Urself, Mate, U Have Got Cheat, U, And Michael Owen, Are Wrost Ever Football Pundits Of All Time, Who Ever Told U, Chould Be A Football Pundit Most Have Bean On Drugs, Bcause U Are Shocking, Ur Option, Dosent Matter 2 Me Bcause I Mute, U On My Telly Everytime, U Are About, 2 Talk,
Thomas Jones Type properly mate
when did he say he was?
Thomas Jones You haven't got a clue. Have you even played the game at a respectable level. Rio is a decent pundit and was undoubtedly world class at his peak. To an extent Rio is right in what he's saying. The games evolved. Defender's are different players these days.
Rio was overrated
Varane is world class
Not yet.
+Qwerty Qwertyson what does he lack to be world class my friend? He demolished messi, salah, Ronaldo(vs Portugal) and drogba
Ahmad Muslun Eric baily is world class
Diego godin
Chielini
Bonucci
Thiago silva
Rio is talking like he was proper world class....he never was
Eamon O'Leary - he definitely you fucking tool haha
Was *
Rio wasn't world class? You've just shown how little you know about football, please go away
He had a good world cup 2002 & a few good years for Man U. Won champs league so have to say world class.
He was