TFL Tried To ARREST Me!

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • TFL Tried To ARREST Me! That's the email message I got from someone about their daughter. Have a listen to this and let me know if you have had a similar experience or know anyone else that has as well,
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  • @annemariewight6079
    @annemariewight6079 Před 2 měsíci +29

    If the young lady had been a different colour that would never have happened. It makes my blood boil the state this country is now in 😡

  • @noProphet550
    @noProphet550 Před 2 měsíci +26

    They don't ask that many questions if you arrive illegally in a boat ffs.

  • @eyesonly7072
    @eyesonly7072 Před 2 měsíci +265

    I watch Black youths everyday barge through the gates without paying and that’s allowed? I’ve even heard them say to the ticket office help me out bruv and they do? It would seem we don’t want to upset certain groups!

    • @fuck4317
      @fuck4317 Před 2 měsíci +15

      Cant imagine. I am glad i live in a country that isnt even close to being enriched like great britainstan.

    • @davidhamm7909
      @davidhamm7909 Před 2 měsíci +6

      What’s a ticket office?

    • @scaryfakevirus
      @scaryfakevirus Před 2 měsíci +4

      I saw that myself decades ago.

    • @watchmakersp9935
      @watchmakersp9935 Před 2 měsíci +12

      yes most of time i witnessed same sort of thing especially if driver is of same ethnic background.

    • @littleworkshopofhorrors2395
      @littleworkshopofhorrors2395 Před 2 měsíci

      Not just just our imported brethren, aĺl youths seem to do it. Some of them are so blatant that even when police are there the stop people doing it, I once saw at Harrow on the hill station a youth barge through the barrier and shouted and raged when they stopped him. Bring back the birch, they would not reoffend again!

  • @adriancazan6957
    @adriancazan6957 Před 2 měsíci +150

    After listening to this video clip I understood the meaning of TFL= Thugs , Fools, Low Life.

    • @leakoe3797
      @leakoe3797 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Adrian- Brilliant answer
      Brilliant idea..
      Ought to patten that phrase..
      Terric..

    • @philipbunker146
      @philipbunker146 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Thieves For London

    • @adriancazan6957
      @adriancazan6957 Před 2 měsíci

      That`s spot on.👍@@philipbunker146

    • @chrisdobbing3403
      @chrisdobbing3403 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Absolutely. Tell is a backward organisation!!!

    • @oliverreedslovechild
      @oliverreedslovechild Před měsícem

      Scumbags, just like their weasely boss, Sad Dick Knut

  • @TheGamesEmporium
    @TheGamesEmporium Před 2 měsíci +151

    Just another organisation that takes doing politics and telling us how to live and think instead of concentrating on its sole purpose and responsibility.

    • @bigpants6121
      @bigpants6121 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Playing at being a customs officer and CID!

    • @paulbell8653
      @paulbell8653 Před 2 měsíci

      Which happens to be protecting its revenues from cheats and thieves.

    • @bigpants6121
      @bigpants6121 Před 2 měsíci

      going after easy targets?@@paulbell8653

  • @gwenlillianlondon3772
    @gwenlillianlondon3772 Před 2 měsíci +53

    Sounds like they caused her unnecessary harm and distress and I hope she takes it further - how about a big apology for starters?

  • @alandavies1054
    @alandavies1054 Před 2 měsíci +85

    Welcome to the UK 2024…terrible for the young lady…my daughter lives in London and it could happen to her…disgusting what these organisations get away with.

  • @bernardbradbury7774
    @bernardbradbury7774 Před 2 měsíci +42

    Shocking! Is this tantamount to stop & search? If it is then Khan's TFL stormtroopers have no jurisdiction. Someone needs to reign this lot in and concentrate on working for Londoners and not Khan's Woke police state.

  • @RevJock
    @RevJock Před 2 měsíci +185

    From personal experience, TFL Revenue pick on easy targets : often letting male youths jump barriers , kick gates open or double up through the barrier. They much prefer to interrogate females and also tourists and bully them into paying a fine. Seen this exact behaviour numerous times at Balham, Tooting Broadway and Bec.

    • @billweatherley8335
      @billweatherley8335 Před 2 měsíci

      We white English people will be at the back of every que now, nevermind we built our country with our bare hands. It USED to be OUR country but now THEY are taking it, by force when necessary and our own "establishment" are bending over and helping them. "We're Doomed"🤬🤬🤬

    • @YouRangMLady
      @YouRangMLady Před 2 měsíci +9

      Absolutely spot on!

    • @marksanders3659
      @marksanders3659 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Just like the Police who will pick on easy targets too.

    • @mattlars89
      @mattlars89 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I was strip-searched once, just outside a convenience store. Was a young lad at the time, about 20 years or so. They found nothing, I warned them I would make a harassments case out of it. Have not been stopped the last 14 years.

    • @YouRangMLady
      @YouRangMLady Před 2 měsíci +6

      @mattlars89 no one has power to strip search except police, Border Force etc and then not anywhere public.
      Turning out pockets or being patted down is not counted as stripsearch.

  • @user-nx8ii4ef7f
    @user-nx8ii4ef7f Před 2 měsíci +10

    My 14 year old had to get 3 trains to school, thanks to Ed Balls, he had done four late nights of panto, was full of cold, early dark morning and fell asleep on the train missing his stop. Asked for help to go back, FINED!! Grate Britain and London is its cancer!

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 Před 2 měsíci +62

    Sue for false arrest.

  • @zibbezabba2491
    @zibbezabba2491 Před 2 měsíci +284

    Walk away from these people. Say nothing. If they touch you or try to detain you, tell them there will be legal consequences and let them decide if they want a lawsuit or not. If you are falsely detained, continue to say nothing until you see a solicitor. They'll soon get tired of paying out compensation.

    • @icouldbewrongicouldberight
      @icouldbewrongicouldberight Před 2 měsíci +7

      It's super nerve-racking though.
      Be aware that the thinking of those up high is that the negative consequences of false convictions are less than the upsides.

    • @YouRangMLady
      @YouRangMLady Před 2 měsíci +5

      Would not be my advice. If you do not stay, tfl staff can request police assistance. Get too argumentative, you can be removed from station and banned even if had the right fare paid. It's not worth the aggravation.

    • @bigpants6121
      @bigpants6121 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It's difficult if they stand in front of you and talk nonsense.

    • @zibbezabba2491
      @zibbezabba2491 Před 2 měsíci +20

      @@YouRangMLady That attitude is exactly what is bringing this country to it's knees. People need to assert their rights or lose them. Not saying anything takes the wind out of their sails and if the police arrive... great. They can continue making a spectacle of themselves while you show the police your paid for ticked and reassert your right to travel without being accosted.

    • @YouRangMLady
      @YouRangMLady Před 2 měsíci +1

      @zibbezabba2491 you talk of asserting rights. The tfl are asserting theirs. That's the point. They've the law behind them regardless of whether we like it or not.
      Forcing them to get police involved will end up with same conclusion ie you're stopped, forced to give name and address and proof of fare, so why argue with the staff in first place? I don't like their authority or how they abuse it with selecting easy targets but it won't change. Choosing my battles.

  • @LeedsUnitedJohn
    @LeedsUnitedJohn Před 2 měsíci +18

    A lot of the Employees come from other countries and they act like they would in their home countries. They have no idea about our British culture and heritage.
    I see this with my fellow security guards who would rather steam in than talk.

  • @paulusarnhelm704
    @paulusarnhelm704 Před 2 měsíci +7

    First question."What is the purpose of your journey" Unbelievable.

    • @joyelmes7814
      @joyelmes7814 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Getting from A to B of course.

    • @DovidM
      @DovidM Před 2 měsíci

      Apparently, you need a visa to exit the train station.

  • @jamesbinderman5626
    @jamesbinderman5626 Před 2 měsíci +74

    About a year ago I took my daughter to the train station as she had three bags, I parked in 15 min drop off and carried 2 of her bags to the platform. I was then denied exit because I couldn't prove I wasn't on the train that had just pulled in. After about 10 mins of arguing I just pushed the guard over and walked back to my car being chased by the guard who stopped me from driving away crying about being assaulted. Eventually the police arrived, checked CCTV and promptly let me go. Guard was still crying about it as I flipped him the bird.

    • @leslangsford5109
      @leslangsford5109 Před 2 měsíci +2

      👍😄😄

    • @joedee1863
      @joedee1863 Před 2 měsíci +4

      James - the burden of proof falls upon the accuser not the accused.
      This is a maxim in law and how English Law differs from European law.
      A small claim for £2,000 would take sting out of the incident a little bit. Or claim whatever you think is reasonable for being accused of theft, fraud or telling lies. How much is your reputation worth, only you can decide that.
      Another useful maxim in law is
      "He that is claiming is winning"
      So the law recognises your claim and the respondents counterclaim. And if they don't have one well that's just too bad boo hoo. Quids in 🤑💲💸 serves em right

    • @jamesbinderman5626
      @jamesbinderman5626 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@joedee1863 yes granted but I thought at the time that in fact I did assault the guard and decided that I'd better not push my luck🤣

    • @joedee1863
      @joedee1863 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jamesbinderman5626 - I comprehend, the threat of retaliation is always a mode of control. But in future you may best in mind that 1. accidents can happen. Anyone can trip and unintentionally knock someone else over and compensation for such would depend on the other party's injuries.
      2. If 3 warnings were given for the other party to desist from detaining you OR ELSE reasonable force would be used to secure yourself and yours. Proof of these warnings could come in the form of affidavits (notary public) or sworn statements(commissioner of oaths).
      Or videos , etc.
      Just a few of the tools to bear in mind for anyone who uses public transport and is accosted by an agent of a company who claims to have a 'duty of care' to the public.
      These days body cams are so cheap and affordable and I never venture out of doors without one.
      "It's a jungle out there" 😉
      "Be cautious as serpents and harmless as doves" J.C. the Nazarene.

    • @user-wc2xf3fj6l
      @user-wc2xf3fj6l Před 2 měsíci

      If the guard is wrong or doesn't have the proof then him holding you there becomes false imprisonment! You can use force to escape false imprisonment same as self defence. Technically you could perform a citizens arrest and call the police. All legal.

  • @Jeff-bg7pt
    @Jeff-bg7pt Před 2 měsíci +40

    I try not' to travel by train as I need to arrive at my destination

  • @Dazuk2023
    @Dazuk2023 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Tell them to F O and keep walking then if arrested sue them.

  • @joanware6473
    @joanware6473 Před 2 měsíci +26

    These people are of low self essteem and have to make themselves feel better than they are, but these people need to be rooted out and sacked., I hope the Daughter is feeling better from this now.

  • @garyholliday7226
    @garyholliday7226 Před 2 měsíci +42

    Hope the lady was ok as Hope she took it further

  • @victorevans5770
    @victorevans5770 Před 2 měsíci +5

    They pushed it too far because they could and knew she would not kick off. Thousands openly avoid paying every day, including the threat of violence.

  • @MajorMinor1970
    @MajorMinor1970 Před 2 měsíci +30

    The amazing thing is that they are checking anything. Go through most London train terminals and tube stations and if you are lucky enough to see a TfL employee they are usually sat in a nice warm booth looking at their phone or stood on the concourse with four or five of their equally useless colleagues having a chat and a coffee. Meanwhile scores of fare dodgers are piling through the barriers completely unchallenged.

  • @janereynolds7555
    @janereynolds7555 Před 2 měsíci +14

    I left the UK 13 yrs ago! I could see the direction of travel... not a good destination... hell...

  • @johnallen7807
    @johnallen7807 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Not used the Tube for years but I do remember you bought a ticket from a guy in a ticket office, you carried it on the train available foe any inspector and you showed it to the guy at the exit barrier, a simple system that seemed to work pretty well.

  • @BeaHindebars
    @BeaHindebars Před 2 měsíci +9

    Perhaps they should send these people to the channel to question the travellers disembarking small boats?

  • @londonerwalks
    @londonerwalks Před 2 měsíci +11

    The young lady should have filmed the whole thing on her phone.
    It's amazing how people in authority can suddenly start behaving when the camera is on them.

  • @juniusvindex769
    @juniusvindex769 Před 2 měsíci +5

    My daughter had her bag stolen on the tube. Her phone, bank and Oyster cards were inside.
    My wife had an air tag on my daughters phone and it could be traced by my wife to whoever stole it.
    TFL and BTP were no help. We informed them where the phone and cards were, but they refused to help.
    My daughter was in London studying at the time, and had no bank cards or her Oyster card and was stranded......... she was 18, alone and was left to fend for herself.........
    luckily she deferred this year, has a full time job and is happy. I get the feeling, she won't be going back to London. We live in rural Wiltshire, where it's predominantly white and safer.....👍🏻

  • @garyholliday7226
    @garyholliday7226 Před 2 měsíci +44

    That’s disgusting how dare of them jobworths

  • @nicholassiminson2699
    @nicholassiminson2699 Před 2 měsíci +41

    Andy, London has been “another Country” for a LONG Time ! Speaking as an exPat (now with dual Nationality) I find it very difficult to understand what’s going on over there.

    • @pooooornopigeon
      @pooooornopigeon Před 2 měsíci +3

      Same plan all over the world, haven't you noticed ?

    • @PumpTheRod
      @PumpTheRod Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@pooooornopigeon Yes, all the western world.

    • @barnabywild2215
      @barnabywild2215 Před 2 měsíci +1

      How do people of your adopted country react to foreign folk making their country "another country"?

  • @warrior9085
    @warrior9085 Před 2 měsíci +26

    This is the problem when certain ethnicities are recruited in certain professions/jobs some of them retain their anti british attitude even when being paid.

  • @jodypitt3629
    @jodypitt3629 Před 2 měsíci +41

    I'm speechless Andy, what more can I say, I would be in tears too, oh that poor girl!

  • @davidbarlow350
    @davidbarlow350 Před 2 měsíci +19

    This is becoming endemic in this Country,jumped up jobs worth who believe they have more power than they actually have.
    Same with security guards and the police,who just see bullying the public as their right.

  • @bcfc18751
    @bcfc18751 Před 2 měsíci +89

    Disgraceful!! Single white female being harassed like this! Wouldn’t have happened if she was non- white!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿💪🏼🇬🇧✝️

    • @peetiegonzalez1845
      @peetiegonzalez1845 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Or non-female. They pick on the people they think will be most compliant.

  • @peetiegonzalez1845
    @peetiegonzalez1845 Před 2 měsíci +74

    Having presented my ticket, ID, and explained why THEIR system was at fault by not allowing me to "scan-in" at my boarding station, I would have asked me if I'm under arrest, and upon their inevitable "no", simply walked out. Sure, I'm a keyboard warrior but it upsets me that they prey upon people who are "just trying to do the right thing" and coerce them into believing they have to obey unlawful orders or what amounts to nothing more than suggestion. "It'd be in your interests not to leave..." my @rse

    • @dh2032
      @dh2032 Před 2 měsíci

      easter said than done? they act like legalised thugs you no the one bailiffs and the like even the court ones, they stamp around giving you there full presence

    • @icouldbewrongicouldberight
      @icouldbewrongicouldberight Před 2 měsíci +1

      Easy £6000 up for grabs sounds like it's in her interest to me

    • @peetiegonzalez1845
      @peetiegonzalez1845 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@icouldbewrongicouldberight Hah. Let's see if that works out. If it does, I'll be more inclined to be "inconvenienced" illegally in future.

  • @PeterNorman-xd8tr
    @PeterNorman-xd8tr Před 2 měsíci +11

    This is now London under Sadiq Khan the people being employed are not fit for purpose the way the young lady was spoken to by the female jobs' worth was wrong needs' to take a course in how to talk to people in a proper manner, we see another little Hitler recently the PCSO who threatened to arrest a lady who was singing a Christian song said she was breaking the Law.

  • @corina6627
    @corina6627 Před 2 měsíci +18

    The staff at tfl are very incompetent and extremely rude arrogant and think they are something they clearly are not ! She needs to make a formal complaint and ask for earnings lost ! Absolutely disgusting behaviour!

    • @icouldbewrongicouldberight
      @icouldbewrongicouldberight Před 2 měsíci +1

      These sort of incidents are enough to cause aversion, far costlier than even a day's pay. Hth

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Andy, As a recently railway man of 30 years service im sorry they can stop and ask for proof of travel and ask for proof of ID. The people on the barrier also should apply common sense.
    If anyone is in doubt ask to speak to the station manager and always ask for their name or ID number.
    They cannot refuse this request, If their is a BTP officer about request one. Always stay polite it works in your favour.
    I do not go to London without a through ticket anymore as i do not have or want an Oystercard.

  • @watchmakersp9935
    @watchmakersp9935 Před 2 měsíci +7

    This is disgusting; thank you for this Andy . Yet bus drivers let people on for free of which i have logged complaints such as ; 3 men in 20's being waved through etc. Does TFL management really know about these things as well????

  • @IntelLady
    @IntelLady Před 2 měsíci +24

    Classic TFL jobsworths.
    Poor girl!

  • @kurtmuller1861
    @kurtmuller1861 Před 2 měsíci +46

    It's amazing how wonderfully well the public transit systems work in our former colonies such as Singapore, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur etc. Yet despite the high percentage of colonials working with Tfl, they couldn't run a toy train.

    • @davidrichaidson3269
      @davidrichaidson3269 Před 2 měsíci

      Well!! Their recruitment policy is hiring of people of low intellect, that fill the criteria of " diversity" who tend to believe their uniform gives them legal authority!? What people need to do is ask their name,job title, then due TFL for wrongful detainment !!

    • @user-wc2xf3fj6l
      @user-wc2xf3fj6l Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's ironic isn't it. Or more accurately,moronic. Can only be by design. Or lack of care. 😮

  • @peterleonti5639
    @peterleonti5639 Před 2 měsíci +11

    From the Mayor of London and TFL every journey matters Unless.......

  • @nonaknight9491
    @nonaknight9491 Před 2 měsíci +37

    We should have listened to Enoch Powell. 👀. ‘Twas years ago, for those who are old enough to remember❗️

    • @whitehart11
      @whitehart11 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Rivers of blood speech

    • @MD_ENTERTAINMENT
      @MD_ENTERTAINMENT Před 2 měsíci +1

      And how would that change what happened to her?

    • @jimosullivan1389
      @jimosullivan1389 Před 2 měsíci

      @@whitehart11 The correct title is "like the Roman".

    • @user-wc2xf3fj6l
      @user-wc2xf3fj6l Před 2 měsíci

      Wouldn't help. This plan is agenda 21. Agenda for sustainable development goals and objectives from the EU/UN.....A new world order...It is across the western world. All NATO countries. USA. Canada. Germany. France. Australia. Etc. Same stories in all these nations. Lockstep when it came to the planademic. Net zero. Man made climate change. Etc. As a UK citizen I was never asked. It has all been done without our consent. There was no vote. I term it a hostile corporate takeover. They just forgot to tell the people. We need to become incorporated citizens.

  • @Pinzpilot101
    @Pinzpilot101 Před 2 měsíci +17

    tears....we truly are lost.........we should all be very very angry........if we don't achieve this anger threshold soon, we will slip quietly into the night.

  • @redacted629
    @redacted629 Před 2 měsíci +22

    Record the interactions and then take appropriate legal action.

  • @rickshaw2779
    @rickshaw2779 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Not good enough. The problems with TFL start right at the top and until this is addressed nothing will change.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Foxtrot Oscar would be a sensible answer in the first instance.

  • @GMN360
    @GMN360 Před 2 měsíci +6

    What was the power hungry TfL operator trying to achieve other than authoritarianism and superiority.

  • @Envexitytg
    @Envexitytg Před 2 měsíci +3

    This happened to me when i cqme back to uk sfter 3 weeks sway at gatwick .. 2019 amongst other invasive questions standing with a uk passport was asked where i was heading and do i have lodgings i said a train to london . And yes they got pissed when they asked 3 times and i answered like a politician

  • @Must_not_say_that
    @Must_not_say_that Před 2 měsíci +3

    When asked to stand aside and asked why, if no satisfactory answer given just walk off.
    End of.
    No power of arrest unless an arrestable offence has in fact been committed.

  • @orinokoflo4856
    @orinokoflo4856 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Maybe start asking these thugs questions before you answer any of theirs, like, 'what is the name of your indemnity insurance company?" That should get their attention.You require this for when you take them to court. Find out the their name and any id number they might have on their uniform. All this before you answer any of their questions. Hope this helps the next man/woman detained in this way.
    I

  • @davidmillington6042
    @davidmillington6042 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Whoever they are, I agree, they should be sacked immediately

  • @TaylorTiree
    @TaylorTiree Před 2 měsíci +3

    What an awful experience! Seems like the “power” has gone to these TFLs staffs heads. I hope a complaint is being made! Absolutely no excuse to treat commuters in this way.

  • @henryhayward597
    @henryhayward597 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Some people derive a good deal of excitment from bullying and excuse themselves with "Just a bit of fun ". She deserves to know why her life was disrupted.TFL should be intrested also, and If not WHY NOT. I want to know, just in case they make me late.

  • @bobbailey7024
    @bobbailey7024 Před 2 měsíci +16

    It would be worth seeing if there's a possibility to sue for unlawful detention. These people have no rights to ask members of the public any personal details. I wonder if the TFL staff were British born or imported into Khan's caliphate.

  • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
    @user-fo9bv2mm1g Před 2 měsíci +9

    TfL is riddled with traps for the unwary. On purpose.
    edit: this sounds like a power trip though.

  • @malcolm4956
    @malcolm4956 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I’ve seen the gates opened for odd looking 👀 groups on many occasions and thought what happened there? After I took the time to buy a ticket 🎫

  • @swagmanandy
    @swagmanandy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Time to sue BIG TIME, if an unfamiliar stranger blocks my way and demands anything they're getting punched.

  • @chrislamerican2989
    @chrislamerican2989 Před 2 měsíci +37

    Gestapo more like

    • @maverickhistorian6488
      @maverickhistorian6488 Před 2 měsíci

      Sadiq Khan's goon squad again! 😡 this man ( can't really call him a man) ignites my fury like no other. It deserves to be removed from power by fair means or foul! 😡

    • @johnmartin7158
      @johnmartin7158 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@maverickhistorian6488That’s why you must vote for Rishi Sunak. Rishi will win in a landslide. He will be the saviour for England.

    • @tonycrayford3893
      @tonycrayford3893 Před 2 měsíci

      Sunak is WEF puppet he can be [redacted] with the rest of them. ​@@johnmartin7158

  • @user-hs5pr5bt1v
    @user-hs5pr5bt1v Před 2 měsíci +2

    Quite frankly, anyone who chooses to live in London has zero right to complain.

  • @elisabethgrundstrm8159
    @elisabethgrundstrm8159 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thank you andy 😍😍😍the light is here purdy good people of goodness and grace 💗💗💗❤❤❤💓💓💓

  • @vandervecken2577
    @vandervecken2577 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I would have just walked through and away, if you’ve committed no offence they have no right to detain you, if you do stop they have no right to demand your details. Any physical detention would be unlawful detention, possibly assault, and most probably leave them in a position to be sued.

  • @steadynumber1
    @steadynumber1 Před 2 měsíci +22

    Paper tickets rule ! 🇬🇧

    • @christopherckarkson5605
      @christopherckarkson5605 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @steadynumber1, hello so does cash a wage packet pen and paper.oh and fish and chips wrapped in newspaper.

    • @davidsimms6609
      @davidsimms6609 Před 2 měsíci

      Long gone!

    • @steadynumber1
      @steadynumber1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@davidsimms6609 I've always managed to get paper tickets. Smart Phones are a trap, one which I cannot afford.

    • @joedee1863
      @joedee1863 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Paper tickets rule - recently I had trouble travelling by Flixbus they refused to let me on the bus and wouldn't give me time to access my device to show my electronic ticket. I still plan to sue them but in future I will print out my ticket and have a copy with me in case anyone tries to tamper with evidence and always wear a body cam to record all interactions with ticket collectors etc.
      It's a jungle out there take care 👍

  • @philipnapier3585
    @philipnapier3585 Před 2 měsíci +19

    It was never mentioned but I am sure those jobs worth are not British

  • @kevinpotts-to5nm
    @kevinpotts-to5nm Před 2 měsíci +7

    never had an isuue with clowns at tfl....i make a point of never going near londonistan...cant stand the place

  • @philipjones9458
    @philipjones9458 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Have any of your subscribers seen Brendan Kavanaghs videos aka Dr K at St Pancras on the public piano donated by Elton John.

    • @richardparmenter188
      @richardparmenter188 Před 2 měsíci

      China have been pushing to take the video down. It will soon be gone

    • @kenh3344
      @kenh3344 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes ....😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @deltaas1
    @deltaas1 Před 2 měsíci +7

    ❤I live just outside the M25. I haven’t been into central London for years and now will not drive into the ULEZ zone. I refuse to pay that money grabbing little tyrant £12:50 a day. I urge everyone, regardless of your nationality political beliefs, to vote for the Tory candidate for mayor in May. In my book her promise to abolish the ULEZ charge is sufficient reason but on just about every other matter she cannot do a worse job than Kahn.

    • @suzannehaigh4281
      @suzannehaigh4281 Před 2 měsíci

      Vote for Tory, who put a foreigner in charge, non elected, who allows thousand of further foreigners in and houses them in luxury. Oh yes, vote Tory.

  • @marylauder3374
    @marylauder3374 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Whilst others will just jump the barriers and get away with it.

  • @dukethenuke8426
    @dukethenuke8426 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Should never listen to clowns in uniforms and should have just walked away

  • @concernedcitizen12577
    @concernedcitizen12577 Před 2 měsíci +14

    That's why I don't like traveling to Londonstan.
    In 2022, I had to travel through London by bus and found the bus station absolutely disgusting facilities wise after 8 pm, and the cleanliness could have been a lot better. As for the tube, I found that to be one of my most scariest experiences in over 40 years of traveling all over the world with work.

  • @nickjp264
    @nickjp264 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Same training instructors of the TfL staff as those for the PO Investigators….?

  • @testpilotian3188
    @testpilotian3188 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Digital tickets have the departure and destination on them so why were they even asking? If the gate opens I just ignore anybody talking to me and walk off, if I’m told to stand aside I say no and walk through, fuck these little hitters.

  • @marksapollo
    @marksapollo Před 2 měsíci +5

    As a race the British are very courtiers and polite, so she did the British thing and abided by their rules, but we must now learn not to do so and just walk away. These jobs worths are not the Police nor have any powers to restrain anyone. That's exclusive to the Police. And as the Police said no problem. No I'm going to guess the race of the jobs worth lady and the race of the Police officer, and wonder if that makes a difference?

    • @davidpnewton
      @davidpnewton Před 2 měsíci

      "These jobs worths (sic) are not the Police nor have any powers to restrain anyone. That's exclusive to the Police."
      Erm WRONG.
      "4A Arrest without warrant: other persons
      "(1) A person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant-
      "(a) anyone who is in the act of committing an indictable offence;
      "(b )anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence.
      "(2) Where an indictable offence has been committed, a person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant-
      "(a) anyone who is guilty of the offence;
      "(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.
      "(3) But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1) or (2) is exercisable only if-
      "(a) the person making the arrest has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (4) it is necessary to arrest the person in question; and
      "(b) it appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make it instead.
      "(4) The reasons are to prevent the person in question-
      "(a) causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
      "(b) suffering physical injury;
      "(c) causing loss of or damage to property; or
      "(d) making off before a constable can assume responsibility for him."
      That is section 24A of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. Anyone can arrest a person in the circumstances laid out in that section. Do try and check what the law actually says before making lofty pronouncements. As for railway staff and fares:
      "5 Penalty for avoiding payment of fare.
      "(1) Every passenger by a railway shall, on request by an officer or servant of a railway company, either produce, and if so requested deliver up, a ticket showing that his fare is paid, or pay his fare from the place whence he started, or give the officer or servant his name and address; and in case of default shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale.
      "(2) If a passenger having failed either to produce, or if requested to deliver up, a ticket showing that his fare is paid, or to pay his fare, refuses or fails on request by an officer or servant of a railway company, to give his name and address, any officer of the company may detain him until he can be conveniently brought before some justice or otherwise discharged by due course of law.
      "(3) If any person-
      "(a) Travels or attempts to travel on a railway without having previously paid his fare, and with intent to avoid payment thereof; or
      "(b) Having paid his fare for a certain distance, knowingly and wilfully proceeds by train beyond that distance without previously paying the additional fare for the additional distance, and with intent to avoid payment thereof; or
      "(c) Having failed to pay his fare, gives in reply to a request by an officer of a railway company a false name or address,he shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale, or, in the case of a second or subsequent offence, either to a fine not exceeding [F7level 3 on the standard scale], or in the discretion of the court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months.
      "(4)The liability of an offender to punishment under this section shall not prejudice the recovery of any fare payable by him.
      "(5)In this section-
      "(a)“railway company” includes an operator of a train, and
      "(b)“operator”, in relation to a train, means the person having the management of that train for the time being."
      Now in the circumstances described the TfL agents were definitely exceeding their powers. The fare evasion offences are summary only offences. That means section 24A of PACE does NOT apply to them. Beyond that it was clear that the fare had been paid for the journey taken as the ticket was produced. So the powers in section 5 of the Regulation of Railways Act 1889 also do not apply.
      Again do try and check what the law actually says before making lofty pronouncements.

  • @icouldbewrongicouldberight
    @icouldbewrongicouldberight Před 2 měsíci +10

    I'm inclined to say let this one go, soonest mended, but we've got to think of more vulnerable folk being detained etc in the future? Folk using lifts are likely to be in poor health, disabled, less robust.
    Ask to see all the documents relating to the processes to be executed where such machines detect omission to check in. You'll probably find they include that it should not be assumed the traveller is a criminal because the system to check in is not comprehensive. This will show that the staff misused their position due to poor training or malevolence. If the latter, consider criminal/civil charges.
    In any event, the assumption that computers are always correct needs to stop.

    • @bobbailey7024
      @bobbailey7024 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I wouldn't let it go. I'd sue for wrongful arrest and harassment.

  • @SCjunk
    @SCjunk Před 2 měsíci +20

    They were probably trying to make out she was travelling on a none TfL train and disguising inter-city travel by use of a local TfL ticket -like the old trick of using a platform ticket to travel inter-city, they were wrongly alerted by the luggage. The fault is entirely with the staff, poor training and appalling attitude, but the first BTP officer as much to blame, the first officer should have resolved the matter straight away, by asking the TfL staff the reason for the stop and what EVIDENCE they had, then a brief interaction with the woman would have resolved the matter, as in "where are you travelling from?, okay that conforms to the ticket, off you go" But the reality we are seeing a very poor level of BTP policing just as we see a marked lack of quality policing by both MET POL and C of L Police, under the Kahnate. Added to which there seems to be a marked tendency to go after white people , especially white women., but then you're very much less likely to get a 10 inch kitchen knife drawn across your throat by a nice petite well dressed white female office worker than a ratchet Somalii or Afghan man of rapist age.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Taxation For London are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing!

  • @G.A.R.2002
    @G.A.R.2002 Před 2 měsíci +3

    As always certain people in TFL or even customs at passport control.
    Would appear to be going past their pay grades.

  • @avacadman2155
    @avacadman2155 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Acting like Gestapo! How dare they pick on a young lady such as she?!!!

  • @davidrobertson5700
    @davidrobertson5700 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Any detainment is in effect an arrest, or citizens arrest. Depends on who has detained who

    • @LukeTR2000
      @LukeTR2000 Před 2 měsíci

      citizens arrest doesn't exist anymore

  • @hannchris2762
    @hannchris2762 Před 2 měsíci +2

    What right do TFL have to ask all those questions who do they think they are

  • @richardparmenter188
    @richardparmenter188 Před 2 měsíci +10

    If only you had been carrying a knife. You’d have had no issues at all

  • @philmipants6337
    @philmipants6337 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I hate to think what would have happened if she had been on an empty station and no bystanders around.😡

  • @dianekivi5349
    @dianekivi5349 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The benefits of ordinary people are the "Jobsworths". They delight in making peoples lives difficult, because it makes them look more powerful!

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In Manchester ticket inspectors did nothing when someone was illegally drinking alcohol and smoking & blocking the ticket machine

  • @malcolmarmstrong8515
    @malcolmarmstrong8515 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Big brother these people are power crazy.

  • @stephenbateman-wright1863
    @stephenbateman-wright1863 Před 2 měsíci

    I was born and bred in London. Moved to Sussex a few year ago and have never been back. Don't miss it in the slightest.

  • @kennethslade8468
    @kennethslade8468 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Funny how a bit of authority goes to some folks heads.

  • @truckerfromreno
    @truckerfromreno Před 2 měsíci +1

    Voting for the main parties won't help us. We need new parties to emerge in the coming months.

  • @robertbate5790
    @robertbate5790 Před měsícem

    Ive heard similar stories from the West Midlands where ststion staff are non existant, and machines malfunction. Revenue Protection is so important, staff are made redundant so there is no one to collect it, except similar jobsworths on a purge.

  • @EIRE55
    @EIRE55 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sad to say, but I'm glad I left London in 2000, and I'd never even go back there for a visit.🥴

  • @concernedindividual7056
    @concernedindividual7056 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Its funny, when any company, council etc gives employees a uniform, they appear to think it gives them some sort of power, even the dregs of these excuses for oxygen thieves.
    😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @russellkeates962
    @russellkeates962 Před 2 měsíci +2

    USE CASH BUY PAPER TICKET AND IF POSSIBLE DON'T CARRY A PHONE, IGNORE THE LOT OF THEM, .. THEY DON'T HAVE POWER IN LAW..

  • @davidleake6491
    @davidleake6491 Před 2 měsíci +1

    A lot of these security type people originate from Africa can you imagine how they love the power

  • @dsimpson7862
    @dsimpson7862 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I took a train from Doncaster to Manchester airport it cost me £22 pounds which i thought was ok on my way back a few days later i had to pay £37 pounds on a over crowded train on the worse track i had ever traveled on. A few times i thought the train was going to come off the track. I was very surprised because the rail system i have always thought was very good. I spoke to another passenger who told me that its been like this for some time and the train only has 3 coaches at a busy time of the day on a Friday.

  • @Cliff-xh7fq
    @Cliff-xh7fq Před 2 měsíci +2

    I wasn’t concentrating on the the whole video so might of missed but did the young lady get numbers/names of inspectors involved and then has she followed this up in the form of a complaint. I’m older and have worked in law enforcement but I can’t state that if I had purchased a valid ticket then I would not have given any of my details other than presenting the ticket for inspection.

  • @jimrford
    @jimrford Před 2 měsíci +2

    Took me sec's to look up The Railways (Penalty Fares) Regulations 2018, look's like some steps were skipped, but I'm no lawyer someone should send this to tge BB Barrister.

  • @kurtsteiner8384
    @kurtsteiner8384 Před 2 měsíci +1

    They dont have authority to arrest anyone. Even police need just cause of wrong doing.
    To reliant on computor systems it seams thesedays. I normally buy a paper ticket no computors or phone to relyon.

  • @philhunt9297
    @philhunt9297 Před 2 měsíci

    Wonder is it was the same staff as seen on Brendan Kavanagh's CZcams video uploaded 23/2/24
    Angry Security And Piano Police On The Prowl

  • @jael313
    @jael313 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What Jobsworths!!! 😮😕

  • @anthonyp6810
    @anthonyp6810 Před 2 měsíci

    That just sounds awful and an experience I hope she will never have to go through again or anyone for that matter. For a moment I thought she had forgotten to tap half way of her journey or by the lift
    Fist thing I would do is get rid of that TFL app who knows what they can do with it with out your knowledge and get an Oyster card and pay cash!

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay Před měsícem

    I remember watching a TV series a few years ago, that was all about Underground Ticket Dodging. Quite a few were caught, and it is still a problem no doubt. BUT< that doesn't excuse the treatment revealed here. I would ( for what it's worth ) complain to my MP) and or seek legal advice as to the JOBSWORTH's power's and limitations.

  • @joedee1863
    @joedee1863 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Andy I wish these Jobsworths would do it to me because I could make some decent money at it.
    My fee schedule is £1000 per hour which starts after 2 mins of what I consider unnecessary detention.
    I have an Invoice book specially prepared for time wasters like ' little tin gods' with time , date, details of the charges. In this case obeying an order of detention.Then there is the travel costs that I want refunded. So I go back home inform work that I've been detained, traumatised by bullies making false accusations of theft and unreasonable demands to prove my innocence but hopefully should back to work tomorrow.
    If they did that to me every week I would be quids in. 💸💲🤑