Are the NEW POWELL DRAGON WHEELS GOOD or just HYPE????

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  • @slowestjabroni
    @slowestjabroni Před rokem +144

    Changed my life as an NYC skater. Bought em last week. I'll never ride anything else ever again.

    • @streetsharkz
      @streetsharkz Před rokem +3

      Changed the game!

    • @robolinoschmidt8676
      @robolinoschmidt8676 Před rokem +10

      You got some rough ground in New York

    • @slowestjabroni
      @slowestjabroni Před rokem +5

      @@robolinoschmidt8676 fr fr

    • @shalabazertheboltstruck8645
      @shalabazertheboltstruck8645 Před rokem +3

      Gamechanger for Austria too. Rough asphalt and rivers of pebbles... no problem anymore

    • @zometthecomet
      @zometthecomet Před rokem +2

      @@shalabazertheboltstruck8645Canadian skater here ! There is nothing better ! Maybe plain janes 😅 if I wanted cheaper but similar feeling

  • @sethrasher3223
    @sethrasher3223 Před rokem +24

    last video claims no reviews of dragon wheels, then boom 24 minutes of review, this is the content I'm here for

  • @jaybird634
    @jaybird634 Před rokem +210

    When I see Ben drop a new video .... I watch it , because I appreciate an honest review . Thanks again brother . Peace and blessings !

    • @Semperfries
      @Semperfries Před rokem +3

      Truth

    • @benwagner3692
      @benwagner3692 Před rokem +3

      FACTS

    • @UTCSB
      @UTCSB Před rokem +7

      Prolly the best unbiased reviews in skating

    • @kenshi4460
      @kenshi4460 Před rokem

      Dude spittin facts

    • @Vote_By_Mail
      @Vote_By_Mail Před rokem +2

      AD: *"Goes further with every push!"* --Rly tho? Some energy HAS to go to wheel deformation as it rotates. SLIDE is 1 thing... but is it 93A or not? If so, physics says it *MUST* be slower.
      BEN: "Compared to a harder wheel, they do feel slower"
      THAANK YOUU SIIIR

  • @feefaw
    @feefaw Před rokem +31

    might be weird but im in a wheel review crave right now so i just got done re-watching the old spitfire vs. bones video you made. thanks for reading my mind lmao.

  • @ZachDoelling
    @ZachDoelling Před rokem +88

    They’re pretty rad. It’s nice to be able to skate to a spot and then skate the ledge at that spot with the same set up.

  • @nekro9t2
    @nekro9t2 Před rokem +11

    THE review we've all been waiting for and the ONLY review you need to watch about these wheels. Thanks for being so comprehensive.

  • @JonnyDIY
    @JonnyDIY Před rokem +11

    The wheels that broke the internet 😂 This is the most I've ever thought or heard about skate wheels in 30 years of skating

  • @mikeyverano
    @mikeyverano Před rokem +8

    thank you for sharing your perspective on these, Ben! i am sending you those healing vibes for your knee and achilles. I was thinking these would be nice for my local curb spot but even the asphalt there is pretty damn smooth already so i think ill stick to my 99a spitfires for now. Like you mentioned i think they would only benefit me on the really crusty parts where i ride over on the way to or from the spot but its a pretty smooth ride all the way there. have a blessed day ben peace love and infinite blessings to you bro.

  • @CarsonsChannel
    @CarsonsChannel Před rokem +23

    I dont think I've ever seen a wheel as hyped as these in the nearly 20 years I've been skating (on & off lol).

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +8

      Neither have I

    • @jameslowe2979
      @jameslowe2979 Před rokem +4

      Yeah it's amazing. I was at my local park and got talking to somebody about them and he said 'that fella over there has just been telling me exactly the same thing- soft and slide'.

    • @ericarevalo5005
      @ericarevalo5005 Před rokem +2

      @@bendegros I remember when formula 4’s came out in 2012-13 they were pretty well marketed and hyped.

    • @TVindustries5000
      @TVindustries5000 Před rokem +1

      ​@@ericarevalo5005 i went in not really knowing what hype form 4s had, and i remember going to shop for the first time in a long time in 2017 and buying some full conicals and being surprised at how well they rolled and how much better than classics they were. my favorite set of wheels i ever had were Rat Bones II 60mm 97a powell peralta reissue wheels and i still wish they made more. so im interested

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX Před rokem

      We had the Ricta Clouds 92A that has been marketed as a hybrid wheel too. It had a decent amount of hype behind it too. Spitfire Formula Fours deserve all the hype by the way. Probably the best wheels out there. And available from like 95/97A to 104A or something and which one to get exactly boils down to preference too. I really like the 97A ones. But definitely skate rough streets.

  • @solidbluebrian
    @solidbluebrian Před rokem +2

    Observe the master at work!! I know you said you were done with reviews, but thanks for coming out of retirement. This was one of the most helpful reviews you’ve ever done. All of the old buddies thank you for your service.

  • @wuchi3668
    @wuchi3668 Před rokem

    I don't get why you don't have much more subscribers. Thanks so much for all your videos. You're the first I found who really tested the dragons. Just respect for you, greetings from Europe

  • @666soso
    @666soso Před rokem +1

    Skate dad back at it again with a review! Very in depth, and your video really got me scratching my head on trying them out.

  • @truecuckoo
    @truecuckoo Před rokem +13

    Nice! Great video! I ordered mine yesterday. I mainly casually skate 56mm Ricta cruiser wheels, but would like to power slide and skate asphalt parks a bit more. I tried some other 94A wheels but they’re weirdly slow. Looking forward to trying these! I have never gotten used to skating hard wheels, so this seems like exactly what I’ve been looking for.

    • @liggerz87
      @liggerz87 Před rokem +3

      Might want to try oj nomads I'm fussy with wheels to I love the ricta clouds and tried no mads I like both now

    • @sen097
      @sen097 Před rokem

      oh shit Cuckoo skates!

    • @kareljanda3399
      @kareljanda3399 Před 3 měsíci

      The synth wizard Cuckoo does skateboarding too! How cool Is that? :)

  • @matthewhiner4318
    @matthewhiner4318 Před rokem +26

    I got a pair of 95 nomads that work pretty well on rough stuff , you have definitely sparked my interest in the Dragon’s. Thanks and hope your Achilles gets better soon

    • @whothat4684
      @whothat4684 Před rokem +8

      I have nomads as well and love them, super smooth for my old ass.

    • @jonathandantonio649
      @jonathandantonio649 Před rokem +8

      Personally I find the Nomads to be much better wheels; they are faster and feel similar in smoothness.

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX Před rokem +1

      @@jonathandantonio649 I actually agree. In fact, my Mini Logo 95A wheels are better already too, unless you're truly picky about the wheel shape. A 93A definitely won't slide as well.

    • @Creeksmallmouth
      @Creeksmallmouth Před rokem

      ​@@PHeMoXsame i love my mini logo 95a A cuts

  • @NYRAD02
    @NYRAD02 Před rokem +1

    Yay Thanks Ben ! I think everyone was waiting for this after we saw the nine club vid 🤘🏻❤️. Much Love from South Africa 🇿🇦❤️🤘🏻🛹

  • @superwokemarketing
    @superwokemarketing Před rokem +6

    Thanks for the review Ben, I am an older skater always looking for an advantage in my gear to compensate for age, everything is fairly crusty near me and I wanted a compromise wheel that could run the crust but didn't need changing for the smooth indoor skate parks. Ended up with the OJ Nomads and they are ok, don't run too smooth over rough ground but defo better and I find them fine but not great for smooth park riding. These wheels seem like a better compromise for my needs. Always enjoy your content brother.

  • @sithazzazzin7329
    @sithazzazzin7329 Před rokem +1

    I am late to the party but I'm glad you did a review cause as a 43 year old skater I can relate to a lot of your points and my body can't take the abuse of long ago. I am from Massachusetts and a lot of places outside of parks is really gnarly and the constant vibrations is killer on my knees. I believe like you said will solve my problems hitting street spots. Ride on my dude.

  • @youalreadyknow5849
    @youalreadyknow5849 Před rokem

    Glad to see you post more frequently on this channel Ben!

  • @marokokisetter
    @marokokisetter Před rokem +10

    oh yeah! I’m reading and looking at dragon wheel videos and just minutes later a new Ben video drops talking about it… good universe alignment 😎

  • @BlackMarketHoney
    @BlackMarketHoney Před rokem +37

    Roger from the nine club said the smoother vibration felt better on his joints and he could skate longer. There must be some truth in that as the same can be said for good quality insoles.
    I am interested to try anything new. I like to feel and play around with the differences in my gear. Based on your (excellent) review, I will stick to my spitfires on my daily ride as most of my spots are smooth. However, I would set some of these up on a second board as this would open up more spots for me.
    Variety is the spice of life!!!

    • @thedude7726
      @thedude7726 Před rokem +1

      Im 32 and they make a huge difference for me

  • @wtfRyantater
    @wtfRyantater Před rokem

    Hope your Achilles feels better soon dude 🙏 appreciate the review, I been looking at these.

  • @JoshuaJeffersFL
    @JoshuaJeffersFL Před rokem +1

    Love the review. Let's stay on the Powell train and see a Mini-logo truck review next!

  • @srcery
    @srcery Před rokem +28

    Thanks for getting on the dragons! So glad you threw in the comparison to 97a spitfires. Did you do any other vids talking about those? FYI they can be had in a classic shape too, only other shape besides conical full currently. The madness is real! If nothing else we have some awesome options for different spots. Stoked to experience the differences myself. Hype levels at maximum!

    • @BusenBingoBalthasar
      @BusenBingoBalthasar Před rokem

      I didnt really get what he compared them to, was it Bones STF 101s and Spitfire F4 97s ?

    • @srcery
      @srcery Před rokem +1

      @@BusenBingoBalthasar The dragon formula wheels he reviewed come in some of the same shapes as the Bones STF, but they are softer at 93a, with the innovation that they can still slide well even though they’re a bit softer. They’re actually not even sold under the Bones logo but under Powell directly. Rumor has it that Bones will be getting a slightly harder 95a version of this new urethane that will be called Bones X.

    • @BusenBingoBalthasar
      @BusenBingoBalthasar Před rokem

      @@srcery Good info, thank you!

  • @realityofarespawn
    @realityofarespawn Před rokem

    Luv this vid. Wanted it to keep going. Great work here

  • @Lacotemale
    @Lacotemale Před rokem

    Thanks for doing the review on these. The hype was real for your review! 😁

  • @jewelscoop3570
    @jewelscoop3570 Před rokem

    These wheels are DIFFERENT! My buddy and i were hyped when they arrived at the skateshop when we were working, threw em on and they were amazing, grinds like crooks didnt pinch awkwardly like softer wheels tend to on a dry ledge, slid really well on grippy ground, and powerslid down hills with control i didnt know i had. So used to spitfires just abruptly gripping during a powerslide

  • @_freedumb
    @_freedumb Před rokem +12

    Great stuff. I love how you cant resist reviewing things lol. Ben, whether you like it or not, you ARE the ultimate human skateboard-gear-reviewing machine, the chosen one !!! 🙏💪

  • @aninverse
    @aninverse Před 11 měsíci

    Got them as the first wheels back after 15 year hiatus. After about a month of the nice bouncing ride, I switched to Spits 99a because I missed the sounds of 'real' street wheels and flatground was too smooshy feeling on the dragons.
    The first snap off Spits immediately felt like coming home and I love the high pitched power slide scream!
    I'm spoiled with smooth AF terrain where I skate though.
    Ben, thank you for another great video. Also nice tennis court set-up!

  • @cythompson8231
    @cythompson8231 Před rokem +76

    great review! feel like ive learned a lot about them from this vid that a lot of the other vids don't show. I live in SF and bomb hills and have wanted a wheel like this for a long time (slideable, handle the crust, and if the slide is as they say should be confidence inspiring and let me slide from even faster speeds then i am comfortable with even with f4s). From some videos from Powell's downhill riders on instagram it seems like they slide easy for days, but we shall see...(hard to accurately guage because those guys can easily slide a 78a, I cannot hahaha). Curious how they will wear tho; for reference I usually run through a 58-60mm formula four down to 50mm in 1.5-2 months from slides. Ordered the 56mm and they should come today. Super hyped!
    Update: these wheels are cracked they slide like a 99 F4 on steroids. Was gassing it and literally hit a 12 foot slide to a stop

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +6

      Gnar!

    • @galvanizedgnome
      @galvanizedgnome Před rokem

      Wear a helmet. Watch out for monkey pops out there in San Fran

    • @williambo5989
      @williambo5989 Před rokem

      what where the specs on the wheels you bought. 92a? was gonna get spitfires f4 for sliding

    • @cythompson8231
      @cythompson8231 Před rokem +2

      @@williambo5989 56 conicals. they slid great but after about 3-4 days they were less than 50mm lol

    • @williambo5989
      @williambo5989 Před rokem

      @@cythompson8231 after a 12 foot slide time for another set LOL

  • @l.j.i
    @l.j.i Před rokem

    Thank you for doing a review of the wheels I'm trying to decide between at my home skatepark! Damn, does this make it easy for me!! 👍😜

  • @JayBoyModz
    @JayBoyModz Před rokem

    I mainly skate my mini ramp in my backyard but have been looking for a wheel that is both great on that and slides ledges well. I liked the F4 97a classics but I think ill try these next. Currently on the OG classic 99as and there great on the ramp but i dont like the way they crook a ledge.

  • @SeniorJosue
    @SeniorJosue Před rokem

    So glad you made the review,
    Thanks Ben.

  • @5hanesBoard
    @5hanesBoard Před rokem +1

    Finally got some Dragon Wheels. I love that I can now skate along the rough streets to the concrete skatepark before skating the park. I'm only a bit disappointed that they started getting splits in them on day one.

  • @goldleader6169
    @goldleader6169 Před rokem

    i mostly skate a crusty old diy park so i think im gonna try a set, thanks for an honest review as always Ben

  • @hipsterdog24
    @hipsterdog24 Před rokem

    Im so happy bro is reviewing this one, i was waitin on this one

  • @gabanlange9793
    @gabanlange9793 Před rokem

    great honest review..on the lookout for these wheels.

  • @jon5one7
    @jon5one7 Před rokem

    Was curious, questions answered. Appreciate it Ben hope the Achilles is doing well.

  • @doublej7293
    @doublej7293 Před rokem

    Love all the new videos! Keep it up

  • @peterzbalazs
    @peterzbalazs Před rokem +5

    Good sliding soft wheels have been existing for a long time, this is just a new addition to them. The slide-ability is more in the formula, not the hardness (for example, I found the Bones SPFs to be really sticky and they are 84B). However, this review is awesome and rational as always and everything you've said is true for all slide-able soft wheels out there (where and how can you benefit the most from using them, etc). Thanks for the quality content Ben!

    • @jonathanlee6066
      @jonathanlee6066 Před rokem +2

      Hundred percent. I haven't looked into it but I have a hunch that they took a thing or two from Powell peralta's soft slide formula range of wheels which are downhill oriented, but slide very slick for their durometer (75a!)

    • @nedskaterh
      @nedskaterh Před 11 měsíci

      these are unique due to a relatively new (

  • @ponyboy7825
    @ponyboy7825 Před rokem +1

    I bought them for my indoor bowl. Fairly new to bowl skating. My bowl is indoor and surfaced with gator skins. When the ramp gets dusty my Spitfires would slide out a lot sometimes unexpectedly. The dragons give me a very very confident ride which consequently makes them faster. Because they feel so good and I’m way more confident on them. Perfect pair for my 19 Indy’s on a 8.5. I’m carving waaaaaay better. Not a single tick tac turn.
    All wheels down and fat carves in n out of the pockets. I like the way they bonk off coping also.

  • @Mathertron
    @Mathertron Před rokem

    The review we've all been waiting for. Love it Ben, thanks.

  • @dneck
    @dneck Před rokem +1

    great review can't wait to skate my set

  • @rosscauvel8481
    @rosscauvel8481 Před rokem

    I skated them at a smooth park and then I skated formula fours 99a at the same park. I had a lot of the same experiences…but also as a /oldskaters member, I may have noticed that my knees and back may have felt slightly less roughed up after the Dragons sesh. But the FF’s are def way more satisfying to do boardslides on the ground, slide on the ramps, and slide on coping.

  • @hellatightdude
    @hellatightdude Před rokem +62

    Yes!! Just put these on my board today and lo and behold a Ben video on them. Fucking rad
    Edit: alright so just finished your video. As always man your review was on point. I skated with them today at my local park and the asphalt in the parking lot is fucking awful but the park is super smooth. From the parking lot to the park itself, absolute game changer and I can tell why anyone skating street with shitty asphalt is preaching about these. At the park, they were about 90% as slippery as my 99a formula 4s. I actually slid a little better on my noseslides I felt like then I do with my spitfires, but I could have just been having a good day. For grinds in general they felt fine. They did feel a little slower than my 99a’s, and they’re eerily silent which takes some getting used to. But they powerslide and revert great. All around a really great wheel and I’m going to take some time to get used to them and compare them more with my 99a spitfires before I settle on which I prefer.
    Thanks for the review man, love your channel!

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +26

      Thanks for your review :)
      I like getting other detailed opinions here...especially when they confirm mine😂

    • @hellatightdude
      @hellatightdude Před rokem +6

      @@bendegros haha man you’re always on point with it. After I watched your video on the Anti-Hero 8.28 deck I got a Real 8.28 with the same dimensions. Fits my skating way better than the girls I used to ride. So I definitely have major respect for your opinion on stuff man.

  • @oak_owl
    @oak_owl Před rokem

    In time for the real review🙌🏼 thank you Ben👊🏼

  • @roybatty4578
    @roybatty4578 Před rokem +4

    All the wheel brands are sick! I love my Bones SPF, Spitfire Formula Four 99as, Ricta Clouds, and my OJ Bloodsuckers! I go between three different setups depending on what I feel like skating lol

    • @elizahhoward3923
      @elizahhoward3923 Před rokem +1

      I like your pov I can relate they all have their reason they are fun to skate

  • @cesarmoore7996
    @cesarmoore7996 Před rokem +1

    I’m super stoked to get these in, I skate a bunch of ditches in my area but man the vibration kills my knee and back. I’m hoping these make the ditches more enjoyable

    • @idmhead0160
      @idmhead0160 Před rokem

      I think you'll like them. I mainly skate medium rough asphalt and they work good on that, and slide good. I was skating AWOLs before that because I can't stand hard wheels on rough pavement. Those barely slide at all though. I got the V6 Wide Cuts 56mm. I think the wider contact patch is better on rough ground.

  • @MarcelNinety
    @MarcelNinety Před rokem

    Nice skating , hope your injury gets better soon . Different location is good every now and then , i enjoyed it .

  • @benj6107
    @benj6107 Před rokem +1

    Always the voice of reason, great review Ben. I wasn’t going to rush out and buy these but I know plenty of people that might. As I only skate smooth concrete parks, these would be pointless. I will stick to my tried and tested Speed Lab’s (as good as Formula Fours in my opinion). Maybe one day you could do a review on them, I think their 97a’s and 99a’s are excellent wheels.

  • @diddymelone2265
    @diddymelone2265 Před rokem +17

    Quick update after I finally rode them: fucking yes, they are insane!
    at first I was a bit disappointed they are not quite as quiet on the street, as my actual cruiser wheels.
    but it still is a very big difference between them and any hard wheel around 99A and harder.
    secondly the vibrations are very minimal, these dragons are smooooooth!
    and most importantly: the slide. oh my god the slide ... its crazy!
    they slide so easily and especially on rough ground, I actually slipped out 2 times, cause I wasnt ready for it!
    so definetely, as Ben said, get used to them before you shred.
    holy moly, finally I can cruise around town, slide whenever I want to and skate rough spots.
    for cruisng long distances I will still go back to my cruiser setup, but these are the actual perfect hybrids!
    where the nomads disappointed me to no end, these actually keep their promise!
    so in short, the 60€ I spent on them I do not regret at all.
    finally able to skate that crusty af parking lot, with wheels that actually slide, and my feet do not hurt at all.

    • @zzzfabio
      @zzzfabio Před rokem +1

      How did the nomads disappointed you ? I’m on them right now but I have ordered some dragons ! can’t wait to see the difference

    • @diddymelone2265
      @diddymelone2265 Před rokem +2

      Hey, the nomads in my experience were too hard for rough streets, the didnt absorb the vibrations very nice, the dragons do that much better.
      Secondly the nomads slide much slower in general, on any ground.
      Sure when you are adapt at sliding, might be easy, but noseslides and the Likes require alot of wax.
      The dragons slide so good that even a newbie like me can easily Push them through anything and the rougher the ground, the better they Slide, its madness!
      Love em, wouldnt Go Back. But in Skatepark I will Go with my F4s cause I'd miss the sound and the dragons are better for rough spots anyway.
      So many places I can finally skate!! Holy Shit!

    • @diddymelone2265
      @diddymelone2265 Před rokem +2

      PS: I have the 54mm V4 shape, since I wanted to emphasize the smoother ride.
      The V1 might be a little worse for rough ground

    • @zzzfabio
      @zzzfabio Před rokem +1

      @@diddymelone2265 I’ve ordered the same shape, same size. I loved the nomads, I just want to see if the dragons can push the concept a little farther. The nomads slide when you want them to but grip most of the time. I’m used to it now but I want to have some more fun with powerslides !
      Im a little bit afraid about the form factor of the dragon wheel itself ! The nomads were perfect for me. Tablet shape seems to be perfect for lock-ins and stability while being thin and very light. V4 dragons are larger but with a narrower riding surface I believe

    • @Flammable
      @Flammable Před rokem

      @@zzzfabio in my experience the nomads grip too much when you try to powerslide, the 97a spitfires are my current choice and when ben did a longer slide with the dragons than the 97as my jaw dropped a bit lol

  • @callsignscrottymcboogerballs88

    Admittedly I need to catch up on your vids Ben, but I'm glad your finding the time for this channel again!! ,you've always inspired me to try everything out there , been a f4 guy for years now I'm loving my oj elite easy's the slide is so fun but scary on real creamy concrete

  • @COOLAUSTINO
    @COOLAUSTINO Před rokem

    was waiting for Ben to review these, nice!

  • @johnm3946
    @johnm3946 Před rokem

    Thanks for doing this, keep healing up!

  • @kacalllove2914
    @kacalllove2914 Před rokem +1

    This wheels must be perfect for the place I live in (Riga). Street is rough while all skateparks are concrete.. so I guess it should be perfect! Thanks for the review, Ben.

  • @CWBchannel
    @CWBchannel Před rokem +2

    Just grabbed a set of the 56mm’s! So excited to try them out!

  • @johngregory4801
    @johngregory4801 Před 3 měsíci

    I started on Power Paws and Road Rider 4's, so things have changed a lot in the last 48 years. The best wheels I've ever ridden on vert were (97A) Kanoa Rollouts, (88A) Street Cubes on the, well, street and your average skatepark. I'm on (90A) RatBones now, but these intrigue me. I'm in my 60's, but still have some skating in me.
    Thanks for the "deep dive" review

  • @gabrielherrera4643
    @gabrielherrera4643 Před rokem

    This is the type of review I like and I want this type of review for the clothes you review.

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +1

      So far all the shorts I tried ground and slid really well!

  • @tsb8226
    @tsb8226 Před rokem +1

    I was thinking when you were gonna drop this review props to Ben 🙏🙏🙏

  • @zzzfabio
    @zzzfabio Před rokem +6

    I am on the OJ nomads (95a) for a year and a half now and these have been a game changer already for me as I skate mainly rough street spots. I have bought some spare nomads but then those wheels came out. I’ve ordered a set and I hope to have the same feeling on the streets, just a tiny bit slickier. OJ Nomads can really powerslide and grip when you want them too. I just want to see if I can have a little more fun with the slide-ability of the wheels when power sliding or grinding/sliding stuff.
    OJ Nomads are perfect for me "form wise" as they are square but thin and insanely light ! We'll see !

    • @alejandroh3347
      @alejandroh3347 Před rokem

      I have both and I like dragons better than OG Nomad

    • @liggerz87
      @liggerz87 Před rokem

      Yep I love them to I have 2 pairs for 2 set ups

    • @zzzfabio
      @zzzfabio Před rokem +1

      Ok first session with the dragons and I’m sold ! They take some gettin used to because of the rebound mentioned in the video. They somehow react like a filmer wheel but after you get used to it, it’s only pleasure and fun.
      They do slide a lot better than oj nomads and can slide better than the f4 99a too.
      It truly is bizarre but I guarantee you can’t be disappointed with these wheels !
      That is a true solution rough street skaters and they go farther and greater than the OJ Nomads.
      Can’t wait to see more sizes and shapes but I’m definitely sold on the formula

  • @knowbuddy0
    @knowbuddy0 Před rokem +3

    Mini logo 90a A cuts are a good cheap wheel that slides decently and are good on the wallet. I've been skating them almost a year now and still going strong. Same for the bearings. Mini logo has been around for a long time and if I remember right is a sister company of powell.

    • @jaykay4541
      @jaykay4541 Před rokem

      I really wish someone would compare them, I skate mini-logo/Powell 90a as well and the power slide well on rough ground and are way more bouncy then anything else I’ve skated which feels great.
      Most other wheels feel like plastic after.
      Although some harder wheels feel better on some surfaces.

  • @dontusemyrealname5540
    @dontusemyrealname5540 Před rokem +5

    love that the original ledge u made at the park is still going strong!

  • @FernandezCycles
    @FernandezCycles Před 8 měsíci

    In the early 2000’s Powell made 92a Bowl Bombers that were my favorite wheel. Based on this review it’s the same wheel so I’ll be ordering some asap!

  • @jamesl8296
    @jamesl8296 Před rokem +3

    How do they feel on revert-y flatground tricks? bigspins, cab 3s, that sort of thing.
    I alternate between 50mm F4 99a classics and Bones STF V3 99A depending on what I can grab, and skate some pretty crappy flatground spots...but due to my inadequacies on fully rotating certain tricks, I'm all about the revert-ability when looking for a good wheel.
    The F4s are great for this, but I've grown to quite like the bark of the STF V3s, especially on concrete.

  • @KraaaHKen
    @KraaaHKen Před rokem

    Hell yeah! The one person I wanted to hear talk about these wheels.

  • @fakiewilly
    @fakiewilly Před rokem

    I got the oj nomads 95a a while ago and they are really similar but seam to stick on slides a bit so I think I'm getting these dragon wheels. And roger braag loves them too.

  • @internet_internet
    @internet_internet Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve been a formula four guy since they came out. Was a spit classics guy for a decade before that. I just know how to control them in slides, reverts, & grip. Plus I love speed.
    Now that I’m a little older, I’m tempted to try these for a little more grip and smoothness. With my large size, 6’3 220lbs, I don’t know if the speed deficit would be an issue for me. I can pretty much force speed.
    Tempted to try.
    I would always recommend a smooth asphalt hill bomb session to help break in a new set of wheels.

  • @shaun8062
    @shaun8062 Před rokem +13

    I just tested mine. I have two pair, the classic shape dragons and I have the conical shape dragons. First I will describe the classic shape dragons 54mm. What I previously have been riding are the spitfire 97A classic shape 54mm for my comparison. I skated three different surfaces from smooth to rough, then actually crusty. I did power slides, reverts, and very fast pushing to see how they hold my speed for street skating. On a scale from 1 to 10, the spitfire 97A felt about a 1-2 point difference from the Dragons in 4 different ways. It felt a 2 point out of 10 difference in speed. the Spitfire 97A classic shape was faster than the classic shape dragon. It felt one point difference in vibrations, the dragons translating less vibrations, but just by one point. The slide ability of the dragons in classic shape was about 2 points less slick than the spitfire 97A classic shape. And lastly the sound was about 1 point louder for the spitfires vs the quieter dragons. Now I will describe the conical shaped dragons in 56mm. The 56mm dragons were about 2 points different in speed from the spitfire classics 97A. The spitfires were faster = less need for pushing. Slide Ability felt 1 point less slippery compared to the spitfires. Vibrations were about 2 points softer on the dragons vs the spitfires. And lastly, the sound was even less at 2 points quieter for the dragons vs the louder spitfires while riding, HOWEVER they were louder when sliding about 3 points vs the spitfires. Over all, this was on a scale from 1 - 10 and so these differences were small. The best thing I could do from here is to get the spitfire 97A in conical shape to see who the true all terrain winner is. Since the spitfire 97A classic did so well against both the dragons (only a 1-2 point difference in softness feel), I am going to assume the spitfire 97A conical will make up for the vibrations difference and retain the speed.

    • @Sk8ter-Dad
      @Sk8ter-Dad Před 7 měsíci

      I have the 58mm conical full in 97a. Was thinking of trying the 58mm dragons but they are like 3-4mm narrower. Not sure if they would be better or just similar??

  • @mrzoom214
    @mrzoom214 Před rokem

    So stoked to watch this review. Txh Ben!

  • @coachpete327
    @coachpete327 Před rokem

    Excellent fair review. I wanted to see somebody other than Roger and Andy talk about them

  • @KevinNiceTry
    @KevinNiceTry Před rokem +3

    Was waiting for this one!

  • @ZTFlames
    @ZTFlames Před rokem +9

    The wheels are great. The more you break them in the better they work at the park but these work best in the street.

  • @mikeuptegrove
    @mikeuptegrove Před rokem

    I saw that Roger from 9Club just posted a video saying they’re the best wheel ever and he went from being able to skate a few hours for a normal to 8.5 hours. I only remember ever having one soft wheel as a kid. I remember loving it in the park but not on street so much. I had a hard wheel slide out on me carving a bowl today and it caused me a hipper. I can’t afford hippers at 40 years old.

  • @crazybiscut
    @crazybiscut Před rokem

    Thanks ben doing an informative review

  • @yung___lx
    @yung___lx Před rokem

    killer content g ur killing it braa

  • @jagodic6796
    @jagodic6796 Před rokem +1

    crazy detailed. thank you

  • @sh666nks
    @sh666nks Před rokem

    I'm pretty sure the reason they grip a little bit better than a normal spitfire classic wheel is because the inside of the wheel is actually more of a conical shape. Which is why I'm not getting these wheels. I usually flip my wheels and I don't want the rounded part on the inside cuz I like conical shape for basically anything. Also spitfire makes a wheel with that shape. They're called the lock-ins which have a classic outside but a conical inside which makes the wheel lock in better. But those wheels definitely sound like they grab more since of the softer durometer.

  • @ramrunsfast
    @ramrunsfast Před rokem +6

    Great review Ben,
    I think there were just a couple things that would help make a direct comparison with your 97A wheels is grabbing the V6 shape which has a wider contact patch or comparing.
    I have the Spitfire 56mm 97A as well as the Powell Dragons 56mm V6 shape which are pretty similar width wise. The biggest difference I notice with both these wheels is riding bigger transition. My Spitfires would feel a bit soft once I hit a certain speed while my Dragons did the opposite going from soft to hard as I would gain more speed and get up higher in the transition.
    I definitely would like to see a follow up review as you break in these wheel comparing them directly to your Formula Four Classics 99A and 101A as Powell has been doing a lot of their marketing mentioning both durometers they are most similar to.

    • @LucasSilva-jq1ty
      @LucasSilva-jq1ty Před rokem +2

      came here for this comment thank you

    • @maxaguzzi9919
      @maxaguzzi9919 Před rokem

      Hi Ramon a suggestion please: I have f4 97a classic 54mm to help me in asphalt e crusty ground . Dragons are much better? thanks.

    • @ramrunsfast
      @ramrunsfast Před rokem +1

      @@maxaguzzi9919, I personally like the Dragons better. My comparison is only with conical fulls however on both wheels. Ben mentions in other videos how a smaller contact patch will affect the riding surface of the wheel which makes total sense. If you want to keep a round edge wheel yet have a wider surface area to roll smoother I would recommend the Dragon Formulas 54mm V4 Shape which are know as the fatties. The most similar Spitfire Wheel would be the Radials which are a hybrid of the conicals and the classic shape. Round like a classic shape yet wide like a conical wheel.

    • @maxaguzzi9919
      @maxaguzzi9919 Před rokem +1

      @@ramrunsfast Thank you so much!\m/

  • @DeviantSkateboards.
    @DeviantSkateboards. Před rokem +2

    Mine are on the way!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥

  • @ogdistavo9350
    @ogdistavo9350 Před rokem +7

    While waiting for these wheels to be released ive bought 2 sets, 1 being the OJ 95a nomads. These wheels are amazing, im surprised theres not more hype around them as theyre softer but slide great. Im hoping theyll come with a 78a that slides for old folks like myself but great video Ben, thanks for the review!

    • @zzzfabio
      @zzzfabio Před rokem +4

      I ride the Nomads for about a year and a half now. These have been game changers for me. I’ve ordered the dragons, I can keep you informed about the differences !

    • @jonahardayfio7746
      @jonahardayfio7746 Před rokem

      Fr?

    • @zzzfabio
      @zzzfabio Před rokem +1

      @@jonahardayfio7746 oui

    • @srcery
      @srcery Před rokem +1

      What was the other set of wheels?

    • @srcery
      @srcery Před rokem +1

      @@zzzfabio very curious what trade offs you find between the nomads and dragons!

  • @peruperu-jj8zs
    @peruperu-jj8zs Před rokem

    I absolutely love these wheels on rough street spots or rough DIY parks. Even after hill bombing and bunch of power slides, no damage on those wheels.
    But they stick on metal coping at skate parks and mine got chipped on a several spots after one session.

    • @mehmetfratozgun6858
      @mehmetfratozgun6858 Před rokem

      can i ask how long did it last to you? i want to learn the durability of the thing which i am gonna invest lol

  • @anthonyskates9079
    @anthonyskates9079 Před rokem +1

    I’m not gonna try these but you did influence me to buy the Tiago pants! 😂

  • @transferz
    @transferz Před rokem +1

    Being old and sore is so frustrating I’m 49and damn I want to do more in my sessions. I’m at a poly where I need all the old man hacks I can get. Pdx spots are soo crusty!! These wheels seem worth a try.

  • @fishify203
    @fishify203 Před rokem +1

    While I agree with you on the sidewall chirpiness, I haven't found a smooth or rough surface that isn't made smoother and faster with this wheel. In fact rolling from rough to smooth on these wheels feels very much like actual acceleration. MMV.

  • @MrKylederp
    @MrKylederp Před rokem +2

    Do you think waxing the inner wall of the wheel will help? I do it on my F4s when I'm trying long 5-0s

  • @chriscuriosity
    @chriscuriosity Před rokem

    Thank you! needed this

  • @ceeb40
    @ceeb40 Před rokem

    I want some bigger ones for my surf skate. I like hard wheels for street but this would be perfect for for doing slides on the surf skate while still keeping the turns tight.

    • @sirhcortsac5082
      @sirhcortsac5082 Před rokem

      Powell makes a 66mm wheel in this formula called 'Snakes'

  • @siropderableskateshop763

    I you haven't already, you (anybody) should try the OJ Wheels NOMADS 95a ! Quite the equivalent of what you described about the Dragons, and they were out a couple of years ago 😉

  • @facksmasheen
    @facksmasheen Před rokem +2

    I know you said you weren't going to review these on the last video, and I almost commented something about them anyway... lol. I was really going to just say "they really are that good". It's reassuring to hear that you seem to like them, since I'm loving them. My local park has terrible ground, so they fit the bill.

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +5

      I think they are a great addition to what already is out there. I'll stick to my F4 Classics but they did a good job👍

  • @petergarcia8225
    @petergarcia8225 Před rokem

    That's a awesome backyard setup...

  • @S4V3GU1D3
    @S4V3GU1D3 Před 4 měsíci

    I picked up some dragon wheels since I’m going for a cruiser/flip trick board set up, the previous cruiser wheels I used to ride didn’t hold up in the long run. The dragon wheels has been good to me

  • @mannometer9092
    @mannometer9092 Před rokem

    Nice vid. Why were there no videos on the tennis court behind your Hause before ?

  • @doublej7293
    @doublej7293 Před rokem +10

    Would love to hear your thoughts on the OJ nomad, one of my favorite wheels right now. It’s a 95a and gives me a good mix. Might have to check out these dragons though

    • @liggerz87
      @liggerz87 Před rokem +1

      Ye I love the nomads to

    • @jonathandantonio649
      @jonathandantonio649 Před rokem +1

      Having sets of both I like the Nomads a lot better.

    • @casparharte
      @casparharte Před rokem +2

      @@jonathandantonio649 Interesting I might just stick with my Nomands.

  • @grassgrow030
    @grassgrow030 Před rokem +1

    i have pretty rough streets and spots near me, so i was always rocking 86a rictas. now that im getting to a point where i want to learn powerslides and slappies/grinds, ive switched to the dragons and i couldnt be happier, its like best of both worlds. i can actually slide them, even though they still feel soft and nice. i usually hate hard wheels, but these are awesome!

    • @mehmetfratozgun6858
      @mehmetfratozgun6858 Před rokem

      if u used them 5 months, are they durable? how much wearing down?

    • @grassgrow030
      @grassgrow030 Před rokem +1

      @@mehmetfratozgun6858 i have only gone out to skate like a handful of times since then cuz ive been busy with other stuff, so theyre still almost brand new

    • @mehmetfratozgun6858
      @mehmetfratozgun6858 Před rokem

      @@grassgrow030 thanks for the answer :)

    • @mehmetfratozgun6858
      @mehmetfratozgun6858 Před rokem

      @@grassgrow030 thank you :)

  • @foreroa
    @foreroa Před rokem

    That curb looks wonderful

  • @yasutorasado6971
    @yasutorasado6971 Před 11 měsíci

    Would love to see ricta clouds review, or some softer 80a...good content!

  • @Jesticles85
    @Jesticles85 Před rokem

    Thanks for giving us your thoughts on these even tho you said that you werent going to!

  • @drewphifer4684
    @drewphifer4684 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for providing a legitimate review. I just tried them today (V5 93a 56mm) and was not happy with the slide. Great comparison with the 97a F4. I would be interested to see you compare the OJ Elite Nomad 95a wheels

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Před rokem +4

      Nomads are waaaaay stickier. Never had a set but have tried other peoples boards.

    • @drewphifer4684
      @drewphifer4684 Před rokem +1

      @@bendegros I just got to try the Nomads today and you are 100% right. Crazy sticky compared to the Dragon wheels.

  • @urbanhymns8880
    @urbanhymns8880 Před rokem +11

    They don't just slide better than soft wheels normally do, and they don't just slide better on rough ground than they do on smooth ground- they cess slide better on that rough ground better than any wheel I've ever ridden, including the hardest wheel on the smoothest ground.

  • @RideBonesSwiss
    @RideBonesSwiss Před rokem

    This man delivers

  • @robweissman5952
    @robweissman5952 Před rokem

    Ok, now here's the review of these I've been waiting for.