Fisker Ocean One - Canada Winter Road Trip

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • Toronto to Calgary in the Fisker Ocean One during the coldest winter period this year. Snowstorm and cold temps of -15F. (-26C) - this is a real test of winter EV performance.
    The charging infrastructure varies widely from province to province in Canada and this trip passed through four of the least advanced provinces. So, this video is a bit of an explication of the charging development in Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan. and Alberta.

Komentáře • 185

  • @monsterpatbro1041
    @monsterpatbro1041 Před 7 měsíci +16

    The Fisker Ocean is a great car enjoy.

  • @drgermany001
    @drgermany001 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Hi Bruce 👋🏾! I'm a FOO owner too. I'm an American living in Würzburg, Germany. We have cold temperatures here too and colder temperatures the further south you go ( equivalent to Canada 🇨🇦). Thank you for your video it really gave me more confidence to drive my fisker in the winter. I also must say, it seems that your FOO had no problems driving through the snow with All-season tires. Thanks again.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes, and all indications are that the charging in Germany is a light year ahead of Northern Ontario.

    • @drgermany001
      @drgermany001 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @brucemacneil, My only complaint (I don't know about Canada) is how much the different charging companies charge to charge. Here in Germany, you have a choice of charging stations up to 300W could cost you .78 cents per kWh. Which could be pretty expensive. Of course, this is fast charging or hyper-fast charging.

    • @Greybone62
      @Greybone62 Před 6 měsíci

      @@drgermany001 Are Your numbers in €, $ Canadian, or $ US?

    • @drgermany001
      @drgermany001 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Greybone62 , €

  • @johnemden7682
    @johnemden7682 Před 7 měsíci +5

    This is great to hear! I love mt Fisker Ocean One!

  • @usa-ev
    @usa-ev Před 7 měsíci +18

    I was impressed with how most of the chargers were cleared of snow.
    Would have been nice to see all the trip stats, costs and all, and also a better readout on the car's winter performance, but I understand that isn't your style (mine either, btw, but I do enjoy TeslaFi to keep track of all that for me) so I humbly accept and appreciate the video as you made it. Thanks for letting us tag along!

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +8

      Yea eh. The software is being revised and the version on this trip was not the most recent. And, we did not really keep track - that particular journey in winter is more of a "whew, we made it" than a "keep close track of metrics."

  • @michelthater4361
    @michelthater4361 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Beautiful color and very good looking car. Congratulations! Thank you for letting me take part in this adventure.

  • @zeusman123
    @zeusman123 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Good job. You are the Poster Child for the Canadian experience of winter charging.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      There is a wide range of experience depending on region.
      Quebec is a dramatically different story in a positive sense..... As is also Newfoundland to a lesser extent.

  • @adolfgerhardhermann5952
    @adolfgerhardhermann5952 Před 7 měsíci +7

    What a wonderful test. At the charger: "If you're here and it's not zero, it's fantastic!" This must be the future.

  • @SE7ENAC
    @SE7ENAC Před 7 měsíci +5

    Brave trip. Thanks for bringing us on the journey.

  • @michaellippmann4474
    @michaellippmann4474 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Hey Bruce
    Great video - Thank you....
    You can go ahead and say it...the Fisker is a nice vehicle but it isn't an Ioniq5!!! 😂😂😂
    We just got home from a trip up to Georgian Bay area from Kingsville, Ontario. Love the cold weather performance of the Ioniq. It charged no problem, got decent range in -16C temps (about 330km) was warm and comfortable the whole way...just a great 1600km trip, got to tour around and see central Ontario.
    We're heading out for Southern Ohio in a week and then to Florida in early February. Our car never seems to shut off! 😂
    We are looking forward to traveling East and seeing Quebec and seeing/using their charging infrastructure.
    We where disapointed in the charging infrastructure in British Columibia when we where there last November. It needs much improvement, it is just adequate but lacking in numbers available. There are a lot of EV's which was great to see but they have a way to go in charging!
    Have a great day!
    Mike 🇨🇦

  • @darcygibbons3836
    @darcygibbons3836 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Holy smokes, just watched your whole video. If this isn’t a an advertising video for the benefits of the Tesla charging network, it should be. Great adventure and thanks for documenting it.

  • @hkersincanada3953
    @hkersincanada3953 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hi Bruce, it was nice to meet and talk to you the other at 65 St Mary. I finished watching your video and it was informative. I will have to try my first DC charing sooner than later. Thank you.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      Very nice meeting you as well. Cheers - awesome car.

  • @greatestsportslegends
    @greatestsportslegends Před 7 měsíci +3

    Love this. It feels and looks like an SNL skit... and the piano sonata in the background was interesting? LOL
    Thanks for this, though.

  • @martinmcnulty8155
    @martinmcnulty8155 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Congrats. Great stuff. Love the Fisker Ocean such a beautiful car.
    Is the Fisker your car? Would love to see more Fisker videos.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      My brother asked me to share the drive.... It is a challenging route and I have lots of experience both with the route and EV road trips.

  • @sprinterdan
    @sprinterdan Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this video very interessting and thanks for the kind words about Couche Tard and the Flo charging stations network that we have in Quebec 😊

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I am charging at circuit Electrique Madrid as I write this. Quebec leads North America.

  • @ashirchaudhary8038
    @ashirchaudhary8038 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Waiting for Fisker dealer to open up in Calgary - definitely on top of my list

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      If you are in market for a car - this is certainly a great car in my view.

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 Před 7 měsíci +4

    You should have brushed the snow off your taillights, too, so people could see you applying the brake and for better visibility. Great video. Yes, it's easy for me to point that out from my 74-degree chair!

  •  Před 7 měsíci +2

    "Everything about this says -16". Great video!

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks - the cold outside of the car was a bit much. And, I am very experienced with super Quebec and Prairie cold.
      Inside the car was warm and comfortable.

  • @pgg3473
    @pgg3473 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Amazing video, really, appreciate it 💯💯

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Amazing is a stretch - thanks.

    • @pgg3473
      @pgg3473 Před 7 měsíci

      @@brucemacneil your shared video must be seen from as much possible more viewers , definitely

  • @JasonKavetis
    @JasonKavetis Před 7 měsíci +10

    I'd like to see indoor charging stations; heated and staffed round the clock. Food mart, bathrooms and a relaxation area.

  • @Mathingon
    @Mathingon Před 7 měsíci +3

    Great video and it’s interesting to see the Fisker in action. When the charge port filling with snow, no back wiper and the entire back of the car filling with snow, you can obviously see that the vehicle wasn’t designed with Canadian winters in mind. Hopefully Fisker improves with future designs. Can you do a video on the software including what you like and dislike?

  • @mauriciorascon3939
    @mauriciorascon3939 Před 7 měsíci

    Great Video. So nice to see the FOO performance in the winter.

  • @JeffHiemstra
    @JeffHiemstra Před 6 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed your video. I’m Jeff in Barrie north of Toronto (model Y 2022 LR). I’d love to see the fisker up close one day if you’re in my area. Glad to see that fisker will adopt Tesla’s NACS in Q1 2025

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks - appreciate it. Fisker remains in Calgary.

  • @CarlAllard99
    @CarlAllard99 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Do you have pre pre-conditionning battery feature in the Fisker? 50 kW is not very fast for a working Petro Canada charging station.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +6

      No. And, you are correct. With pre-conditioning in similar conditions with the Ioniq on the Petro-Can chargers I often see 200+KW.
      That is on the way. Winter cold weather charging similar to when first getting the Ioniq 5. I expect a similar improvement in the Fisker after a software update.
      FYI - the software version on the road trip is not the most recent.

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​​@@brucemacneilWow! No preconditioning on the Ocean One? I'm surprised.
      Very brave to take this trip without preconditioning.
      But it's great to see how trips across this part of Canada go. And very interesting to hear about the charging infrastructure in Quebec.
      The scenery is pretty awesome!

    • @memyselfundeye
      @memyselfundeye Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@davidmenasco5743pre conditioning is being released in a future update. Meanwhile, we just L2 charge at home and stop charging right up to departure time to gain a little battery warming capability.

    • @fixandtests
      @fixandtests Před 6 měsíci

      Wow no battery preheat feature in 23/24. Very surprised.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@fixandtests yes, I am confident it will arrive soon. There were a few head scratches - android auto..... Odometer...
      But.... The latest software revision has corrected a few items work continues

  • @ronkonkoma4223
    @ronkonkoma4223 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love The Fisker Ocean!!

  • @dsviking
    @dsviking Před 7 měsíci +2

    It would be super helpful if you took a picture from inside the warm car of the screen at 37:56 both before and after each charge stop. Providing accurate info will help other potential road trippers or car buyers what to expect. It would likely increase your subscriber count as well. I enjoyed watching your video, however, my takeaway is that you are a very positive person.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks. I went to school with a guy named David Sherman..... Per chance?

    • @dsviking
      @dsviking Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@brucemacneil If it was in Canada, no. It is a somewhat common name.

    • @karldouap6482
      @karldouap6482 Před 7 měsíci

      😂

  • @HeriHaraldson
    @HeriHaraldson Před měsícem +1

    Hi. Intresting and good video taken in the winther. Does your FOO have electric rear window? Does it have a heat pump?
    Best regards from Heri in Denmark

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster Před 6 měsíci +1

    15:52 interesting, I think Henrik tried to post about how it doesn't do this compared to other cars due to the aero, but clearly the back does get covered in snow

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      It happens to basically every car. The accumulation took hours and hours of driving through very snowy condition.

  • @2mopaul
    @2mopaul Před 7 měsíci +1

    You guys were very brave to do this trip in winter. I have been contemplating it for the summer with my Ioniq 5 but with some of distance between chargers, the Ioniq wouldn't make it in winter. Other than range, the Fisker Ocean doesn't hold a candle to the Ioniq. Thanks for doing this trip and your positive attitude. I don't think I would attempt this in the winter with an CE car either.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks for watching. I think I would make the winter trip in our Ioniq 5 without hesitation. I have done that route many times over the past 30 years.
      Really - Ontario has to up the charger game.

    • @martinmcnulty8155
      @martinmcnulty8155 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'm not a specialist but from what I understand the build quality of the Fisker Ocean is also slightly better than the Ioniq 5 (less panel gaps) and the passenger space is also better. I also find the Fisker a lot smarter but I suppose that depends on personal taste.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@martinmcnulty8155 Fisker.... Definitely beautiful and a tad more "lush."
      Ioniq also great.

  • @Terrillthegreat79
    @Terrillthegreat79 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The ocean looks like a solid vehicle. I love the solar roof. I guess you won’t be activating California mode? 😂

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      We tried California mode. I thought of making a video with some of that stuff but it would not really be representative of the vids I make. The car stuff is really an outlier based on the hilarity of the new vehicle and the drive. I do not wish to mislead people.

  • @user-qy7vh2vt8j
    @user-qy7vh2vt8j Před 7 měsíci +3

    The Ocean is a great Car 😊

  • @Spamouflage
    @Spamouflage Před 7 měsíci +1

    Drove from Saskatchewan to Quebec and back two summers ago. Petro Canada stations were iffy. Glad they fixed them up.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Nice. Technically my journey started in Quebec. Charging is still imperfect - but improving. Ivy is a good addition but ideally they would be more aggressive with expansion and maintenance.

  • @memyselfundeye
    @memyselfundeye Před 7 měsíci +2

    Awesome review- thanks for putting your neck on the line!
    How was the handling in the snow? I recently was caught in a 3 day ice storm in Portland Oregon and my FOO felt like a luge. Gonna have to rethink getting chains or straps for ice as it was a bit scary- even with low regen set instead of my usual Max setting, and i switched from Fun to Earth to cut back on instant throttle response to eliminate wheel spin.
    I have never experienced such bad iced roads in my life and i am regularly in Anchorage, Billings Montana and Bismarck ND!
    Probably want to keep your tire pressure down in the low /mid 40’s instead of 49 psi to maximize grip on the road.
    Also, i have had luck using Rain-X on the windows and camera lens’ to help keep slush/snow from accumulating too much.
    Even a good wax treatment to glass tends to keep windows much clearer.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks - snow tires are default for winter and will be installed very soon.

  • @SergeSimardMtl
    @SergeSimardMtl Před 7 měsíci +3

    I was at a Circle-K location in Norway last week, and I felt like I stepped into the future : 4 gas pumps and about 40 charging stations, half of these were Tesla superchargers, but a couple more providers also offering fast chargers. And these are repeating about every 100 km.
    10 years ahead of North America, and electric cars are everywhere.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes, Circle-K (Couche Tarde is the owner) are not foolimg around. If you contact support in North America it is coordinated from Norway.

  • @thenetworkarchitectchannel
    @thenetworkarchitectchannel Před 7 měsíci +2

    Way better, IMHO to ship fuel on a national grid system near the theoretical speed of light domestically produced instead of funding the house of saud by hauling liquid round. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.

  • @douglasross3488
    @douglasross3488 Před 7 měsíci

    Great to know that the charging network is there for us. For future videos, it would be useful to know the distance travelled between each charging station, the time spent at each station, and if you were able to use the climate control on your trip without concern for range.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Cabin warmth - especially with a heat pump - has less impact on range than speed. Though the solar roof heat loss manifested as frost on the ceiling at 100kph and -20C.
      The cabin was plenty warm - really. Earth mode did curtail heating slightly.

  • @johnsmithuti
    @johnsmithuti Před 7 měsíci

    Appreciate the video. You didn't get us an info on the Fisker battery capacity.
    I can't believe you guys are doing this in the winter! Brave 💪
    Would also like to see how the on board trip planning is like. Good luck guys

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      I think the Ocean One battery is 105KWh?? I was fully confident we would make it and the difficulty was on par with what I expected. Charging is improving quite a lot.

  • @mytubbie67
    @mytubbie67 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi great video. I was actually wondering where to get some true winter feedback on the Ocean. As a Montrealer, a new brand/car that hasn't passed a single canadian winter yet would be a risk. So thanks for this. I'll share a couple of comments/observations for your consideration if you want to reply or film a part 2. It would seem the Ocean would benefit from mud guards to reduce the build up of snow in the back of the car. Also would have been good if you show us if all four door windows were getting well defogged and defrosted, and comment on the cabin ventilation and heating. If the windows open well or freeze up as well as the pop up door handles. Also curious about the software was it guiding you to any pre-drive warm-ups or battery conditioning periods. I mean especially after a overnight sleep and then to start up the next morning. Also was the navigation SW finding those charge stations or not, you seemed always surprised that they would charge the Ocean. So I get the impression you know where they are because you know the route from previous drives or was the car indicating these are candidate stops. I suppose no rear window wiper is a shocker but if the heating elements do well to melt the snow, then it is just a question of running it. But it would seem there is no heating element or you would have used it.
    I know on the Ocean purchase website there is a winter package option was curious if you had it on your model or not. Also wasn't clear if you add 4 season tires or winter tires. I assume the car comes with 4 season tires. winter tires in size 20 or 22 must be really expensive. I use 17s on my current gas car. Finally would be good for owners to know what SW version/update you are currently running on the car.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks -
      Window Snow - that accumulation took hours and hours of driving on very snow covered roads. We made zero effort to clear it. Around Quebec - most normal drives: MTL to Toronto or similar it would not be an issue.
      Charging - it is difficult to explain to a non-Quebec person how really fantastic is the charging in Quebec. It is similarly difficult for a Quebec person to understand how difficult charging is outside of Quebec.
      Software - the car did not have the very latest revision.

    • @mytubbie67
      @mytubbie67 Před 7 měsíci

      I agree we take our electricity for granted, cheap, plentiful, and of renewable source (hydro). @@brucemacneil

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      @@mytubbie67 It is more the logical dispassionate move towards the future - and in this case the electric future.

  • @snowbuddynation
    @snowbuddynation Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great vid. Brave man. Question: Which chargers didn’t work? And why? Would help to know issues you had and what you did to overcome them. Thanks for the lovely vid. Loved watching the road trip.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      There were a couple of factors influencing charging - the chargers and the lack of battery pre-condition. The battery precondition is coming but the charging is under control of each province so there is variation.

  • @COSolar6419
    @COSolar6419 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just saw a Fisker for the first time yesterday at a Rivian Waypoint charger. I didn’t know they were actually for sale.

  • @m3chief
    @m3chief Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's great to see a video of someone taking a Fisker on a real winter journey! When you stopped for the night, how much charge did you lose each night? Did you have to charge right away each morning?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Lose zero charge overnight. Some motels have included charging.

    • @m3chief
      @m3chief Před 7 měsíci +1

      Were you leaving it plugged in all night on a level 1 charger then?

    • @Trk09dr
      @Trk09dr Před 6 měsíci

      I am curious how much charge can you get overnight on a level 1

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      @@Trk09dr it is good to think of battery as a tank. The tank capacity for the Fisker is approximately 105KWh.
      A "level one" charger will deliver between 0.6 and 1.2Kw.
      So, at 1kw, it will take approximately 100 hours to fill the battery.
      But, really it is useful to consider your use case. How much driving you actually do.
      I drive lots, some of my relatives leave their car parked for weeks.
      That aside, it is almost always possible to install a level 2 charger that will deliver between 3 and 10Kilowatts.
      My level 2 at home delivers 5KW...... That might seem low but is more than satisfactory.
      Thanks for your question.

  • @kiyi9960
    @kiyi9960 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Took 51 mins for 54.3 kwh which is around 108miles (est winter range).

  • @Greybone62
    @Greybone62 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Circle-K have a bunch of Fuel-stations in Norway. "Uppsala" is a Town in Sweden, as well.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      Wow - thanks - Near Thunder Bay there is apparently a concentration of immigrants from Finland and Sweden.

  • @yuriyrogozian
    @yuriyrogozian Před 7 měsíci +17

    Rarely writing a comments but decided to give my feedback on your video. It feels like you've wasted 4+4 days for nearly zero value for your audience. No car specs, no range values, no charging speed, money/time spent charging. Suggesting you watch couple of 'Out of spec' videos, you can definitely benefit from it. No offense but going on such a trip on all season tires is not the most smart/safe idea, could have caused you lots of headaches in such weather.

  • @Sentenced66
    @Sentenced66 Před 6 měsíci

    I like the Ocean. Awesome.

  • @RebelRanger2009
    @RebelRanger2009 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Fisker Ocean has no preconditioning for the batteries? 26kWh is horrible for DC charging. Next time I go to Abbotsford, I will look at the maximum charging rate of the Petro Can chargers.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I made a follow up vid answering questions in the comments.
      The Fisker has capability for battery condition - but the version of the software we had did not support it - yet.
      Similar I think to my Ioniq 5 - no precondition when. I bought it but a later software update added it and a massive 5X improvement in charging times.
      Petro-Can chargers - there are some boiler plated at 200KW and others at 350KW. The best I ever got in my Ioniq 5 was 250KW which is actually fairly normal.

    • @craignoble1641
      @craignoble1641 Před 2 měsíci

      @@brucemacneilHi Bruce, I’m considering purchasing a brand new Fisker Ocean Extreme for $42,900 Canadian. That’s a reasonable price first and EV but with a bankrupt manufacturer and a big risk of no warranty?

  • @craighodas6858
    @craighodas6858 Před 6 měsíci

    Video is filled with charging. Makes you wonder how far in between charges he went. Notice also the time in one of the many charging stations of 51 minutes. seems like a long time to wait in the cold.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for watching.
      Trip was about 3500 kms. 2200 miles.
      Charged about ten times?? Took things very conservative because that province of Ontario is very undeveloped regarding DC charging. It is getting better.
      The temperature was -26C for much of the journey.
      In warmer temperatures the highway range is around 600+kms. 400+ miles.
      The EV performance exceeded my Honda in similar conditions.
      Thanks again.

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thats good. I'm not sure if Fisker will make as they are not selling that many of cars. It looks good and nice large battery pack. All EV'S need the pulg and charge like Teslas have had since 2012. Maybe later this year or in 2025 when all vehicles switch to the NACS connector plug in charge will be adopted.

  • @effingsix3825
    @effingsix3825 Před 7 měsíci

    Did you put all-season radials. How long was the charging. Did you leave the charging overnight. Was the heating adequate, or was it more than enough? Hotels. Where did you eat. Why didn’t you buy a winter brush. How about a parka, mitts and mukluks. Do all the charging networks show up in the navigation. Will you need a shovel. What about snow pants. Did you go to MEC. How many hours a day driving. -your mother.

  • @randygreen7871
    @randygreen7871 Před 6 měsíci +1

    EV's are great, but the charging infrastructure SUCKS so bad it's insane!

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Quebec is amazing.
      Ontario is not good.
      Nova Scotia is absolutely the worst amongst democratic countries.

  • @JeanYvesHudon
    @JeanYvesHudon Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing the experience. In your opinion what brand or type of chargers that are most reliable and should be considered as a benchmark? Cheers

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      If you get a chance - my follow up video has more explanation on charging. Worth noting - the best way to tariff charging is "per minute."
      That aside - a discussion of Canada.
      - the oldest and most reliable charging network in North America is Circuit Electrique. That is the "home base" of FLo charging in Quebec. The reason for this is that energy and transport are provincial responsibility and domain. Premiers defend this aggressively. Quebec is really the gold standard.
      And, per minute is really the best way to tariff the charging.
      - Next would be Tesla. Tesla is the 2nd oldest charging network. THey are very very close in reliability to Circuit Electrique but are not nearly as widely available within Canada as Circuit Electrique is in Quebec.
      - Third (tied in my view) - is Flo outside of Quebec. Flo is almost coast to coast and work essentially 100% of the time.
      - Third - Couche Tarde (Circle K) - excellent and growing fast.
      - Third (tied again) - Chargepoint. Really awesome and well maintained. FYI - Chargepoint has locations as basically every IGA grocery store in Quebec. Remember again - energy and transport are provincial domain and the extent of charging infrastructure is closely correlated to the mindset of the provincial Premier.
      - Fourth - Electrify Canada - generally good and there are usually 4 chargers at each location. The stations are very reliable.
      - Fourth - tied - Farmers Coop in the Prairies.
      Fifth - Ivy - really disappointing and unreliable with a poor price policy.
      Sixth - Petro-Can. Great when they work.
      Also - the CBC Fifth Estate segment on EVs - wow - the reporter had never used an EV, borrowed a Leaf and a Tesla and tried to break them.

  • @Trk09dr
    @Trk09dr Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks Bruce, I was just curious about charging on the level 1 at the motel overnight cause I wondered if it could charge enough to keep the car and battery warm enough so it is preconditioned to charge in am to top off at a level 2 or 3

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      I think a level one is great if there is no level 2... 😊. Any port in a storm.

  • @JasonJolo98
    @JasonJolo98 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi thanks for this video. I may have missed this but what was the total kms travelled from Toronto to Calgary and how many charging sessions (and cost for each) one way? Thanks again.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 4 měsíci

      Hi. I think 3500 kms. 2300 miles? And, about $400 approximately.

  • @patrickhornacek8593
    @patrickhornacek8593 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Have you ever used the Tesla charging network? My experience in the USA is that it is much more reliable than all others. Seems like that Fisker charges very slow, but maybe you a different opinion?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Thanks. I will post a follow up.
      Electricity and energy is a provincial domain in Canada. The circuit Electrique in Quebec is overwhelming. In the province of Quebec there is completely reliable fast charging absolutely everywhere and adding 110,000 plugs in the next three years.
      This trip was not in Quebec. Other provinces are far behind.
      Tesla is very good also though not at nearly the level of Quebec.

    • @patrickhornacek8593
      @patrickhornacek8593 Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks Bruce. Will they change all these chargers over to NACS as manufactures obsolete CCS?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@patrickhornacek8593 The approach here is very dispassionate - the problem is GHG emissions and the hazards of transporting and developing hydrocarbon.
      The goal is to electrify everything - and EV charging is a part of that. If the vehicles need CCS plugs - get those. If NACS - get those. Heat pumps, more of those.
      My channel is really an effort to scratch the cave wall while addressing the question, "if I have to balance my chequebook why does that not apply to government?"
      If you look at some of my other vids - there is more explanation of economics, public policy and some examples from Quebec.

    • @davidbutt406
      @davidbutt406 Před 7 měsíci

      You got a Fisker in Eastern Canada? I didn’t think they were even available in Canada yet!

    • @memyselfundeye
      @memyselfundeye Před 7 měsíci

      @@patrickhornacek8593Fisker has signed a deal with Tesla to begin implementing NACS capability sometime 1st/2nd Q 2025

  • @user-sr8nb6tk6n
    @user-sr8nb6tk6n Před 7 měsíci +1

    Need to get a charging port cover to keep off the snow and debris

  • @chealay7251
    @chealay7251 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing. Can you tell me how many miles you treval and how many times you have to charge?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Around 3.500 kms?? We were extra conservative in charging - so - more often than may have been necessary.

  • @guymatthew1756
    @guymatthew1756 Před 7 měsíci +1

    great video, tx, question, did you do this trip with the standard tires? or did you mount winter tires?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Factory all seasons. I recommend winter tires generally.

  • @TEVAssociation
    @TEVAssociation Před 7 měsíci

    Which PC locations did you use during your trip ? Did all of them work as expected? We have a Fisker Ocean on order but waiting for cheaper second year versions and proper service centers to open up ..glad you had fun with it !we hope to test it one day soon too !

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks -
      All the PC stations worked "as expected" which is to say not perfect. The charge rate was more limited by the lack of battery conditioning.

    • @TEVAssociation
      @TEVAssociation Před 6 měsíci

      How about that rear windshield..any heating? No wiper ?

  • @user-sr8nb6tk6n
    @user-sr8nb6tk6n Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nice trip…but maybe mud flaps will help from all that snow accumulation on the tailgate…what about the rear windshield heat ?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      The snow - that is an aerodynamic reality in almost any car. The conditions were exceptional.

  • @tumentumengoosh5178
    @tumentumengoosh5178 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice car!

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, it really is - fun to drive and very comfortable.

  • @CSAFMedia
    @CSAFMedia Před 7 měsíci

    Bruce please clarify, 8:02 are you stating the actual range you got on this sub zero winter road trip was 500 km per charge, or were you stating the vehicles EPA/claimed range of 500 km per charge?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      That was early in the journey. Not as cold and we were not making any effort at all to conserve.
      The claimed range of this model is on EV Database. That database says 380KM highway in "cold conditions. If I were planning a highway journey in -20C to -28C I would consider 380kms a reasonable planning autonomy.
      My estimate in that moment was based on observing how far we had come and what percentage we had used.
      At no point did we allow the battery to deplete to anywhere near a low enough level to cause concern. Our purpose was to get to my brother's residence in Calgary.

  • @karldouap6482
    @karldouap6482 Před 7 měsíci

    The charging speeds are ridiculously low! Is there no battery pre heating towards the Chargers ?? That’s so bad.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      The version of the software that was present during the trip had a few shortcomings. Battery precondition was one.
      Since then, there is a few software revisions over the air though no precondition as yet.
      The situation was similar with my Ioniq 5. There was a later software update that made a 4X improvement in DC charging.
      That aside - the charging infrastructure varies across the provinces with North Ontario being among the very worst. All are improving.

  • @papizbanging
    @papizbanging Před 6 měsíci

    Lolz every second this man charging. For $25 I can fill the tank and get a lot further without waiting for 51 minutes. Y'all Ev drivers are patient af 😂

  • @chrisburgess6964
    @chrisburgess6964 Před 4 měsíci

    What you didn't describe is range and time it took to charge with costs. Compared to a hybrid. There's not point in doing those trips if you didn't calculate time and charging costs. I have an Elantra 2013 and I know to go 3500kms in the winter is 5 fill ups. Calgary to Kamloops is 29 to 33 liters of gas. I would imagine winter it's a little bit more. Cost would be 1.60 a liter that would be 6 fill ups for 600kms. I noticed one fill up you charged at was at 25 dollars. So that makes me think an electric vehicle isn't worth the price tag,

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you. Brilliant assessment. You have a lot of very useful information to offer. Thank you again.... Really. Highly positive insights. Perhaps the most lucid assessment I have encountered.

  • @MissX905
    @MissX905 Před 7 měsíci

    Why the heck don't you tell us where you are stopping at which town? And how far each charge is getting you?

  • @karldouap6482
    @karldouap6482 Před 7 měsíci

    This video confirms all my doubts about the Fisker Ocean. This car is not up to the task.

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Can you keep the heater defroster on while you charge?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes, and the software is constantly updated and improving.

  • @o0Dan0o
    @o0Dan0o Před 7 měsíci

    Someone posted that the rear window defroster also defrosts the rear-view camera. Do you have that going, and it was simply overwhelmed?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Driving for hours through a snowfall on snowy roads. Not making any real effort to clear the rear window.

  • @benjaminburton785
    @benjaminburton785 Před 6 měsíci

    real swell buncha guys up there in northern Ontario eh?

  • @mr_DIY
    @mr_DIY Před 6 měsíci +1

    13:00 I have seen circle-K in Poland, not the neatiest place to be honest :(

  • @loualiberti4781
    @loualiberti4781 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It seems like all you ever do is charge, freeze 🥶 and eat. My car is a hybrid - I am in and out of refueling in minutes and my range winter or summer is 400 miles on a bad day. Do not belittle those gas ⛽️ tankers they bring needed fuel to run society. I do not believe you realize charging at 4O KWH is absolutely pitiful.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you.
      You might enjoy this video.
      czcams.com/video/eeSZYuhmsEI/video.htmlsi=HjgIWS7-yeKfV0z7

  • @TheSilentStar
    @TheSilentStar Před 5 měsíci

    I can’t believe you didn’t use winters!? IN MINUS 10???

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 5 měsíci

      We simply picked up the car and drove to Calgary. These days.... Winter tires are an absolute must in my view. But, in the 1980s we never bothered so this was a return to youth.

  • @msterpeter1
    @msterpeter1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    To b honest Ill keep my xc40 Recharge from volvo,,the no wipper in the back, the act your computer/infotainment crap not up to par,got me to even forget considering this vehicule.
    My car may have some quirks but nothing like the ones Fisker seems to have,maybe not the same autonomie but then again watching your video and seeing how crappy Petro Can is,,,I've tried 1 time here in Quebec nd never again, they are like so many say faulty 99.9% of the time and expensive,,FLO/Circuit is best.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci

      Circuit Electrique is the very best charging network in North America. C'est Meilleur.

  • @sergiyrudenko905
    @sergiyrudenko905 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video, is Fisker already selling cars in Canada?

  • @therealcdnuser
    @therealcdnuser Před 7 měsíci +1

    Oh I know that location, I stopped there on my way with my Kona EV to lake nippissing 5:08

  • @AiBilly
    @AiBilly Před 6 měsíci

    38:42 . People, please check that a QR code is legit. Scammers will stick their own QR code on top of the legit one, You then enter you`re credit card info and the rest is self explanatory. Just asking for you to be aware. Enjoyed the video 👍

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Very good point. A good case for the dedicated RFID card for charging.

  • @TEVAssociation
    @TEVAssociation Před 7 měsíci

    No rear wiper washer on rear window ?

  • @nesparas1176
    @nesparas1176 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bob and Doug MacKenzie!!! 😀

  • @dylanphotography5050
    @dylanphotography5050 Před 6 měsíci

    Hows the sound system ? how many speaker and how many watts?

  • @Iamthedude
    @Iamthedude Před 6 měsíci

    I hope this car supports 250kw fast charging.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 6 měsíci

      The specs say yes - and every indication is that it will.

  • @chillmeister
    @chillmeister Před 7 měsíci

    You managed to get winter tyres? How did they perform?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +3

      We did the trip on the factory all-seasons. Winter tires are coming.
      I have winter tires on the Ioniq and fully recommend winter snow tires - one reason is that the main service on the car is tire rotation and the summer/winter switch achieves both goals.

    • @chillmeister
      @chillmeister Před 7 měsíci

      @@brucemacneil Ah nice. I'm in the UK and have all season tyres but have never had a chance to test them.

  • @kevinn1158
    @kevinn1158 Před 7 měsíci

    How's it goin' EH from Toronto. You didn't do a Tim Hortons' drive through test? Yah, to all you non Canadians this is typical...guys don't wear winter jackets until it's really cold like -40. Except for us Torontonians who are serious wimps.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +1

      For sure - though after about 4 minutes at -30C you really start to rethink that jacket policy.

  • @Tacocat123
    @Tacocat123 Před 2 měsíci

    How’s the car holding up?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Excellent - it is 'as new' only better with the OTA updates.

    • @Tacocat123
      @Tacocat123 Před 2 měsíci

      @@brucemacneil have you figured out how to keep the car on without being in the front seat? Like using the 110v without the car turning off?

  • @AndrewLumsden
    @AndrewLumsden Před 7 měsíci

    You wouldn't feel so cold if you were to wear decent thermal pants. Cotton jeans aren't going to be any good to you in those temperatures!

  • @marcjampolsky5280
    @marcjampolsky5280 Před 6 měsíci

    Imagine spending 20% of your driving time charging and thinking that's acceptable

    • @marcjampolsky5280
      @marcjampolsky5280 Před 6 měsíci

      Jesus... 25 min in, 1600-1800km and 32 stops to charge... WTF

  • @chillmeister
    @chillmeister Před 7 měsíci

    The rear camera gets dirty?

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +2

      This was a very extreme snow drive for 3,000Kms. The rear camera and window - covered.

  • @AlexBoneff
    @AlexBoneff Před 7 měsíci

    ok video, but some data & numbers are needed :)

  • @BremboT
    @BremboT Před 7 měsíci

    Can't believe you paid 15 dollars for that Flo charge card! Ill forever have a major distaste for Flo after they dropped that bomb on me. If i want 2 charge cards, one for me and one for my partner, that's 30 dollars plus tax. Basically 40 dollars for a piece of plastic! I have 7 charge cards all free.

  • @windowman9665
    @windowman9665 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ya I think we need to know sone car info. How’s the ride. Handling. Range Stats. You’re literally just showing the plugging in and charge. That’s about it. We need something else

  • @dus10dnd
    @dus10dnd Před 4 měsíci

    The most reliable fast charging network in North America? No. Just no. You don't have enough information to make such a claim.

  • @gars1074
    @gars1074 Před 6 měsíci

    No, no, no....not for me.

  • @AndrewLumsden
    @AndrewLumsden Před 7 měsíci

    Well, if anyone wants proof of how this car's rear end gets caked in muck, look no further! Unbelievable, not the best advert! Having shortlisted the Ocean, I won't be getting one.

    • @brucemacneil
      @brucemacneil  Před 7 měsíci +4

      That is a very extreme situation. Hours on a snow covered highway at speed through a snowstorm. The "adverse pressure graft" that occurs at the trailing edge is a phenomenon on really every vehicle. The accumulation of snow took a full day.
      I would not let this factor alone dissuade me from purchasing the Ocean.

    • @sprinterdan
      @sprinterdan Před 7 měsíci

      Perfect vidéo and thanks for the comments concerning Couche Tard and Flo ! Great job 😊

  • @tonyn3227
    @tonyn3227 Před 7 měsíci +1

    No ev for me except tesla, nacs is only charging I would except from any mfg.