MASSIVE A-10 Warthog V2 by FMS (They Fixed Almost EVERYTHING!)
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- The FMS A-10 70mm v2 might be one of the best A-10s at this price point. Beautiful scale details, landing gear that look just like the full scale, and aerobatic performance that's almost unparalleled. Almost everything that was bad about the A-10 v1 is fixed with v2. Want your own? Get it from bit.ly/FMSA10 to help support what we do.
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List of fixes that we know of:
Upgraded servos with higher torque and speed in the ailerons and flaps.
Landing gear are made of higher quality metal that doesn't strip threads.
Landing gear struts appear to be more shock absorbing than v1.
The thrust line doesn't point down anywhere near as much as v1, making throttle up less likely to smash the plane into the ground, and keeps too much weight from shifting to the nosewheel which makes it track true while taking off unlike v1.
New upgraded ESCs and motors for well beyond 1-1 thrust to weight ratio.
A-10 Setup Guide (old but still has good ideas): • Video
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0:00 Introduction \ Join us on Discord
0:21 FMS A-10 Overview
2:32 Ground Handling
3:10 Maiden Takeoff (SMC 5500 75c LiHV Test Pack)
4:00 Snap Roll & Hover Attempts
5:08 Flat Spin (Differential Thrust)
5:43 Stick Smashing & Slow Flap Flight
6:40 Touch & Go Tests
8:32 100,000 Instagram Follower Flat Spin
9:12 Maiden Landing & Initial Review Thoughts
12:20 Main Runway Takeoff
13:00 Inverted High Alpha & Flat Spins
13:52 It's Excellent at Landing
14:52 Final Thoughts & JonScore - Zábava
Nice looking jet. I kinda like the munitions, at least on video. The aft CG is surprising. Nice landings too.
The munitions are a bit non-scale in what's otherwise the most scale A-10 in this price range.
I'm no expert but I've watch many many demo videos over the years with interest in getting into the hobby. You are by far the most skilled pilot I've seen. Most folks just do flybys. Really impressive to watch this. Awesome looking jet too.
Cheers man, thank you!
Thank you guys for your thoughtful, informative and bad ass videos!
That's a badass Warbird! Awesome flying 🤙🏼
Great video Jon! Love the new flight time stopwatch ✌🏻✌🏻
Awesome touch and goes my man ❤ loved it !!!!!
Thank you for sharing this 🙏 ❤️
Ordered one with your link. You guys did a great job showing it off and making a sale for FMS. Can't wait to get this one flying :)
We really appreciate that Jesse! Check in with us on Discord and we'll help you set it up if you want any tips or advice.
Another banger of a video sir Jon😁
30 mm main gun simulator would be money.
Some kind of sound system would be neat.
@@TwoBrosRC
Just sound??
@@FFE-js2zp A BB gun would be cool.
@@TwoBrosRC
A seven barrel BB gun.
Hey that sounds like RC Pilot Will on the camera! I recognize that voice. Always love his excited commentary.
I love the slower more scale flying…nice !
Great video guy's
Perfect. Thank you. Now how did you make the axle hole bigger without spinning the wheel on the tire
A Dremel will do most of the work, just make sure you're evenly drilling all the sides.
Beautiful plane, fine review! Thank you for your thoroughness. While you were doing your Touch 'n Go's, I was figuring out flare spew out the back and Estes-powered missiles that could be fired in flight.
A Bbbrrrrrttttt gun might need some ingenuity to pull off. Am certain someone is tinkering with a Bbrrtt gun in their garage shop!
Hey Jon another great video... But I need your help...How the Hell did you get those wheels off ? I can't get them off to replace them with the DuBros..... Help Please. Thx
Gently turn them counterclockwise - they should rotate right out. If you meet resistance, you're turning the wrench the wrong way.
Like the full size A-10 this plane whistles while it works. Nice scale details.
Glad you enjoyed!
What did you change the ESC's to? You mention differential thrust, do you have reverse thrust programmed as well?
The ESCs are stock, we just untied them and ran each one individually to the receiver.
Is there a difference between the two servos you have in the description link? I need for ailerons. Thanks in advance. Just was wondering what the difference was
You'd want the HS-85MG servos, they're the same size as the FMS units.
Aah, so you’re doing the flight timer thing like Motion does. Cool! Very helpful!
Figured it was about time!
so I have the version that you sent to its watery grave and decided to upgrade my motors and esc to the version 2 setup and now my retracts won't work any suggestions ? I know its not you're problem but just wanted to know if you had any suggestions ?
It sounds like you need a separate BEC that's powerful enough to run the retracts and flight surfaces.
Great job, just got this jet, love it, rewired, removed pcb and am running crow. Couple minor problems, gear somewhat intermittent, can take several cycles to get all three to talk. Also UBEC bad right out of box, hopefully Horizon replaces it. What flight times are you getting thanks! I’m getting 4.5 on 5000 Liperior.
Flight times should be in the vid. Issues with the BEC should be resolved by contacting FMS.
Did you change any esc settings to use the smc HV lipos? The paper that comes w the new packs says to set lvc to like 3.7v. I haven’t tried mine yet
Great review on this plane it’s my next purchase
Nope, nothing was changed in the ESCs.
Could you do a video on how you set-up differential thrust. I imagine one has to change the ESCs as one does to get reverse thrust. I would like to try both on my FMS A10 v1.
We've gotta re-shoot this A-10 in the near future, so getting a proper setup guide for it will be on the agenda. Changing ESCs is not required for differential thrust on this model, but reverse would require a change.
Damn fms is really sending them planes....congrats brother (you made it)🤙
Haha, thanks man! Yeah, they've been really good to us and in return we're doing our best to keep that content coming. It was a hard call to say this is a 9.5/10 jet knowing they'd sent it to us, but we really had to dig hard into it to find anything that wasn't good. The wheels are the only point on the jet that we felt needed addressed, and for $20 we picked up the Du-Bro low bounce upgrade and it's turned it into one of the most enjoyable jets to land. Compared to V1, everything about this jet is stellar. Just wish V1 was what V2 is.
Thanks for video. Good ideas as always.
Started the wheel mod, and the axle of the right main snapped off at the threads. And yes I knew this side would have reverse threads, but it snapped none the less.
Left main and nose mod went fine without issues. FYI Node axle is also reverse threads. This should be obvious since the wheel rotates CCW, the axle should tighten going CCW.
That's unfortunate to hear, Jim. You should be able to thread another axle on it. Just be careful since this jet does come from an era where the metal alloys FMS used weren't the best ones.
Nice! I haven't maiden mine yet! Could you send me the link to get the dubro wheels?
The 2.5" mains can be found via this link: amzn.to/3Nf0txu
The nosewheel should be a 1.75" or 2" wheel.
Hi, can you use the systems from Eflite a10 for this FMS a10
Only the receiver.
Have you guys messed with using a larger battery than the recommended? I was just rearranging the 50 cal ammo boxes and now have more 6s 6000’s than 5000’s. I’d also like to see how the a-10 would handle a couple 4s 3200’s. I’ve yet to burn up an ESC or a motor, but it’s not like I haven’t tried.
It would fly but it would fly poorly even if it balanced correctly. The servos will have to work harder to overcome the added inertia of the battery resulting in a sluggish feeling plane that's easier to stall and harder to fly.
Cool Jet, that wheel uprade really pays off! I always hate the loud noise from those foam wheels. Can you guys review the YAK130 70mm by FMS? I think you would really like it!
We asked for them to send it. We'll see when it arrives.
I’d call that a scale warbird, it looks amazing
It certainly does!
Very nice. I have a bunch of FMS birds. Very well made product. I chose the Freewing 80 mil . have you flown one yet?
Not yet
Hi, how much bigger is this compared to eflite warthog a10
About 1.5x bigger.
Hey man, how are the SMC packs that you’re using? I saw the 6200 mAh online. I have only used Spektrum batteries so far since I like the individual cells showing but it looks like these SMC packs are a good bank for their buck especially since I can get them to 4.35. Also idk if it’s a noob question but, I have the S1100 which is what I use to charge my 6s Spektrum packs, can I tell the charger to charge those SMC packs to 4.35? With Spektrum form obv reasons locks it at 4.2 but since I don’t have any other batteries to try it on that’s why I ask
This comment got caught in the spam filter and had to be manually approved. SMC batteries are our go-to for price and performance, and usually weight. Set your charger to use LiHV output and it will charge them to 4.35.
Awesome! Thanks guys, I was planning on getting the 6200 75c pack for the viper 90, so once again I appreciate it 🙏🏻
@@MrCarlosqwe1 You'd be better off with the 5300 for performance to weight, but the 6200 won't be bad to fly.
I was thinking that too so I’ll take your word for it and go with the 5300. Thanks guys! I just have one last question, like I’ve mentioned I’ve only had Spek batteries and when purchasing these SMC batteries it asks for the connector. Does the connector already come soldered on or do I have to do it?
Also damn, I just noticed that the 5300 is out of stock. Don’t know if to just go for the 6200 or wait for the 5300 😅. I noticed they’re apparently on sale
Fms makes the eflite extra 300? Does fms make all of eflites planes?
FMS makes a lot of models for HH, including the Extra 300.
Очень классный полёт ✈️. Не ожидал от такого самолёта что то подобное . 🔥
How does this compare to the Freewing A-10 ? The size & price seem to be about the same , but ! What would lean me more so toward purchasing this bird verses theirs ?
It's cheaper to operate, only needing one battery instead of two. It's lighter, takes up less space, uses better motors (almost everyone upgrades FW motors to FMS motors), has scale gear, and is incredibly performant as you've seen here.
Yeah, those dubro tires do really help but it's not easy drilling holes into them. Requires a vice!
Drilled it with a handheld Dremel and an X-acto knife. Took two minutes, no vice necessary.
Greetings Jon. Your coverage of this model (my next plane I think) is the most comprehensive I can find. FMS claims this is a six channel system; however, I do not understand how you control the stock gyro without an additional channel? Any help you can provide before I start buying stuff I might not need would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I had been waiting and waiting for you to review the new FMS 80mm F-86. I was 100% sold on buying the F-86, but thanks to your review, I am rethinking that decision! I'm really put off by the cheap servos for the airbrakes. What a pain if they fail! Thanks again. Dale.
Happy to hear that we're able to help you out! We don't use the stock gyro. We always remove Reflex and use AS3X with a custom setup. If you want some buying help, swing by the Two Brothers Discord server via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ping Jon. If he's around, he'll talk directly. Cheers
How awesome! We are both on the same page. That is exactly what I was thinking, and exactly what I was planning to do. AR637 for me. Thank you so much! BTW, Brian Phillips was very unhappy about the flashing wing lights as well. He was begging for someone to show him how to turn off the flash. You are the only one I have seen address this. Maybe Brian would be grateful for your knowledge! Not to be a know it all, but as a military pilot, I can tell you there is a good reason why we have flashing wing tip lights. It helps avoid a visual anomaly (illusion) known as auto kinesis. All my best. Dale@@TwoBrosRC
So everything I’ve previously seen is that the 64mm eflite one is just better and more fun. But maybe they were comparing it to the v1? What do you think of it vs the eflite one?
So the thing is, the E-flite model is definitely made by FMS - so it's two models by the same manufacturer. We touched on this around the time of the maiden landing. The 64mm A-10 is a great model but it's nowhere near as complex or as stable as the 70mm. The 64mm feels more difficult to land because it's smaller and more squirrelly as a result, and is rather heavy for a 64mm class jet. The 70mm is heavy too, but makes up for it by being scaled up and having more wing area to carry that weight. We prefer the 70mm so far, but we'd have to fly both side by side to make a true comparison - which we've done before with the V1, but we'll do it again with the V2.
If someone is dumb with batteries and often has to deadstick landing, which one would be a safer bet? lol
@@ronnymiller7395 Neither, really. They're both pretty heavy for their wing size. Though the 70mm might glide a bit better so long as you don't use flaps.
man I can barely keep my attention to the review because the Ace Combat 3 Music nostalgia is hitting me real hard.
The Ace Combat soundtrack's were a nice touch!!!
Ace Combat and model airplanes go well together!
you're A-10 is missing one important thing sound system of the Gatling gun.
Just imagine it.
Better with trailing link gear with a grass runway?
It does have a pretty robust link system, but you may find that the nose retract needs reinforcement. Fly off grass for a bit. If it becomes loose, pull the entire retract out of the fuselage gently, but firmly, and resituate it with Gorilla Glue as reinforcement. It won't ever have an issue ever again.
@@TwoBrosRC can you see if there is carbon fiber renforcement rod in the front fuselage?
@@SM-yr9kb Nothing we could see easily, but pretty sure one exists.
moo cow! needs repaint
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I've had this bird for about 3 months now. By far the best landing edf I've got, and it will move for its size and weight.
Absolutely. Consider the Du-Bro wheel upgrade in the description - it's waaaaaaaay more smooth.
Just because it is heavy doesn’t mean it’s got a high wing loading, I think it is a lot lower than you think just looking at how quick it lifted of and how slow it can fly.
Perhaps!
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Please send link
It's in the description.
IS it just me, or did I see wing flex? FMS uses/used a lot of fiberglass & steel in almost all of their branded planes (all the gliders, trainers, etc), & using high positive G maneuvers, u could visually SEE it. (I really hope it's all CF now, especially on the G2 versions! For what WE have to pay NOW for FOAM!!!)
The two wing spars are carbon fiber. It'll still flex under load. This is preferable to being brittle and snapping under high G forces.
Ordered it today. Should be fun to have the 64mm, the 80mm and the FMS a-10 out at the field at the same time.
On an unrelated matter, is there any OTC medication for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that you’re aware of?
OCD plane purchases? Sign us up!
i would shave all the bombs and stuff off the bottom of the wings, they serve no purpose other than looks and put a big drag on...the plane would probably be way better handling and faster and the battery would last longer too.
They're removable. We put them on because they look cool and have minimal effect on how it flies.
Although you guys fly ok, doing inverted high alphas is NOT INTERESTING. No real aircraft is designed for this kind of manouver, hence it is not a maneuver an rc plane should be reviewed on. I don't think anybody buys a scale plane thinking how it will perform this uncommon manouver, unless it's a 3d designed for rc plane. Again this manouver is NOT INTERESTING AT ALL.
We're sorry you don't find it interesting, but our audience does. Also interesting that you don't take issue with us forcing it into a flat spin several times but inverted high alpha is where you draw the line? lol
@peptobismol70....speak for yourself👌inverted High A on an A10 is pretty freaking cool
These things are toys at the end of the day.....we must push the limits and fly outside the box....it's the only true way everything else is boring.....with some executions lol
We prefer to think of them as aerodynamic experiments, but you're right - they are toys in the sense that they're meant for enjoyment. But then again, my buddy's full scale Cirrus could be considered a toy too because it's not something he needs - he just enjoys buzzing around in the sky. Same with us! :)
kill the music
No.
There’s is nothing “huge” or “massive” about this A-10….
Feel free to think that, but being a 1.5m wingspan with nearly 10 pounds of flying weight makes us disagree.
@@TwoBrosRC considering there are 3.5 and 4.4m wingspan examples flying around out there your idea of massive or huge with a wingspan of 59” wingspan is tiny. So, no not huge or massive in any stretch of the imagination
That's your opinion and you're certainly welcome to it, but we consider anything to be massive if it weighs more than 10 pounds and huge if it has a wingspan exceeding 1.3m.
@@Captndarty
4.4m is only a 25% model.
@@FFE-js2zp what’s your point? 1/4 scale is still much bigger than 1.3M 🤣 1.3 is average now