I'm actually in the market for a new head unit to replace my stock unit which lacks Bluetooth. I wasn't considering Pioneer, but your review shows me I might have to reconsider. I also spend a lot of time in my vehicle (beverage sales), and Wireless Android Auto would be so useful!
Completely agree. Really wish the prices were lower as well. I imagine that they will offer variants without the CD/DVD player in the future which will be a few hundred bucks cheaper.
Some non wireless, capacitive screened head units with Android auto go for 399 now. Also, of you live somewhere cold, resistive screens have their uses
I use android auto often in my car using the stock head unit. Wireless android would be nice in those times I'm in a rush and can't plug my phone in before leaving
What you reviewers never mention is that these Pioneer head unit's wireless function DOES NOT work with the latest Samsung Galaxy phones. I just spent an hour with Pioneer technical support only to have the guy give me the last minute news...'Oh yeah, you won't be able to use phone call audio with a Samsung phone unless you use the USB cord, and the Maestro feature will sometimes make the entire system buggy"... Nowhere does Pioneer mention that Galaxy phones won't work wirelessly with these.
And I think it's pretty obvious that the car audio industry is purposely slow rolling out the technology to make money. That's Pioneers "flagship" head unit"? Flagship? Really? Look at those buttons! They haven't changed since the 90s! I have a Note 10+ . It's 1/20th the size with 2000x the capability. What have they been doing for the past 20 years?? My phone can Make 3d images, can be turned into a credit card, IS a mobile film studio, has a pen that can control the screen, I can talk to people face to face live, check my heart rate, measure distances, store 10,000 songs, it's a calculator, it's a television, it's a camcorder, it has countless gps services and music players, AND it can get me laid. And the radio is like "I've got gps for those hard to reach places" and by the time it loads up I can order a pizza, hooker, and a tomahawk missle strike..... So again I ask- just what in the absolute mother bleeping bleep are you car stereo people doing? Besides nothing..
I just bought the 4500 model.... Crushfield told me to hook up the brake wire I don't like it ...now I have to take it apart and buy the adapter so I have full functionality
You know....when you said "hey google" my phone suddenly responded. wtheck? (it really did). Thanks for the vid I just bought a new pioneer thinking it had the wireless android but no?...the people at crutchfield didnt hear me say "wireless android auto" I suppose so sold me the 4400NEX without CD player and I already installed it.
Dude quality video. You got yourself a new subscriber. Side note. You shouldn't pause between "Hey Google" and "show me the nearest restaurants." You should just say "Hey Google, show me the nearest restaurants." Just let it flow.
Its weird how slow the development on this seems.. How come a device for 1200 USD lags? Is it poor hardware or just bad optimizations, or both? But yeah in the future when price drops & it gets more effective it will be interesting. Now though? No thanks, to early to invest in...
Car entertainment units are notoriously laggy. It's been that way for a decade. But honestly, it's not really that big of an issue since it's not a system that you're constantly interacting with like a smartphone. You ask for directions, start your Playlist and then maybe skip a few songs every ten minutes or so.
It is because the phone is connected wirelessly which is a new feature. I use my pixel 2 xl with USB in my car and is doesn't lag nearly this much. It also doesn't have that huge delay after you touch the screen.
Not only that but still there are not many car companies that offer Wireless Apple car play or Android Auto built-in to their infotainment systems other than maybe Mercedes.
@@Armmani2000 that's because it's a new feature for 2018. That means the earliest cars with it built in will be 2019 models. Usually car companies are a year or two behind, so don't expect it to be standard until 2020.
@@joecalabro7929 You got a point there. Heard the Pixel 2 was a better leap than Pixel 3. On the safe & snappy HTC U12+ myself. Sorry for deviating from the subject 🙂
Hi. I have the nex 6500. I am having trouble connecting the android audio on my pioneer. I can connect Bluetooth but can see the app on the unit. Can you help
Is the phone and the Pioneer always connected when you are in the car? Lets say... you are driving a 1 hour drive and only want listen to fm radio.. Is the deviced then connected via Android auto or only bluetooth? Thanks for the review btw.
Apparently it does but unfortunately you can't control it via same android auto voice control. www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/41wfsw/using_the_fm_radio_and_android_auto_simulatiously/
On long trips, I do plug the phone in so that it stays charged, but having the wireless Android Auto connection makes it so much more convenient when you just want to jump into your car and drive.
The problem with using wired Android Auto is the charging output is very low from most of these head units including the factory ones... when plugged in using Android Auto it takes forever to charge your phone. So the great thing about Wireless Android auto is you can use a proper fast-charging charger in your car and actually charge your phone quickly when using Android auto.
If I am using wireless google map on this units can I use my phone for something else and make phone calls and the Google map will still show on the unit ? Also, does the screen of the phone has to remain on all the time or what?
@@jam471975 my sony xav 5000, which is an amazing value for money head unit, has fast charging. It's a 7 Inch unit with beautiful screen and capacitive touch control.
I purchased the 4400 with the PIONEER AVIC-U280 add-on. I will be putting both a back up camera and a front-end camera for my very lifted Silverado - I got tired of hitting people... Could you tell me how the AM receiver performs with these units - Thanks!
The expensive part is not the radio itself. It’s the installation and integrations of this thing. I agree these radio are outdated. We all can agree a $100 iPad can do more than these ;)
Hmm hard to decide what to buy right now, the 8400NEX is only $750.. but I"m thinking of waiting for the Sony XAV-AX7000 for better audio quality with the built-in amp, but it's not wireless android auto. Is wireless really worth it? I like having the phone plugged in for long trips so it can stay charged.
Yes because head units frequently don't offer enough current over USB to charge a device while using Android auto. With wireless, you can charge using a quick charge compatible adapter.
It’s nice but only works with the pixel at the moment or Android auto. I wish it could work with more devices. On the other hand apple car play will work with many IPhones .
I have a 2006 Titan and just had the AVIC8500 installed. Everything works great, but my dash replacement faceplate is not fitting perfectly. Did you have this issue, if so, how did you fix it. I see the upper part of your piece is a little off like you sanded it.
@@dcas2341 I got it from Best Buy. They price matched Amazon. The cost was $836 I think. I paid another $200 to geek squad for a membership to have anything I buy installed for free after that.
Price difference is absurd. You could buy a good phone with the better maps built in for the price difference. Being resistive as well as not being low resolution (relative to every other screen you can buy from even the cheapest tablets) just seems strange. Seems like it should be more expensive to use these low rest resistive screens given the scale of higher definition capacitive screen.
Do I have to hook up my S8 galaxy to see my downloaded spotify playlist on my phone or will it do it wirelessly?? I do not use data to play spotify so I download to the phone but it's a pain to be surfing your phone to see or change your playlist! Thanks! If all this can be done wirelessly then how do I do it as I just got it installed and am I little clueless on how to navigate it!
You have to hook up. Wireles Android auto is currently only available for like 6 Google phones. Once Android 9.0 update comes out our S8's should work wirelessly.
Okay, so seeing wireless is pretty much worthless for Android Auto, what is the latest and greatest non-wireless head unit out right now? I'm not paying the extra cost for a feature that doesn't support 95% of the Android phones on the market right now. Thanks
Android auto pops up automatically don't like that...power is nice...don't need a amp right away sounds good factory replacement... also can not turn the screen off while playing music
What am I missing here? Why charge for navigation, and why would anyone do that? I mean , I got Google, Bixby, Siri, Waze, Yahoo, and idk dozens more, all free. So...... 🤷🏻♂️
Yep. Only a couple google phones work with Wireless AA. Everyone else is out of luck, and no time table on when other devices will work with it either. support.google.com/androidauto/thread/3056565?hl=en
To this date, you have to a GOOGLE PIXEL & Nexus 5X and 6P phones to be able to use this wireless android auto. Need to EMPHASIZE that, disclosure at the beginning of the video. Otherwise, people will be spending lots of money and will have no change to what they already have.
Nice review... my only complaint is saying "Hay Google" so many damn times... I mean seriously these reviews doing this is getting very annoying! Demonstrating the hands free assessment once is fine and then after that hit the button if you want to keep showing what the assistant can do. I don't appreciate my Google Home going off 10 times during these reviews.
Fiddle with cables...dude it takes about 10 seconds to plug in the USB cable on the no wireless model...lol!! We can't be THAT lazy and inpatient..can we?..lol! Pioneer apparently thinks they have a few suckers out there...lol!!! Nice demo though
One less thing to keep your eyes on the road and not fiddling with the phone.....If you think everyone will do this BEFORE they start driving.....I have worn out my horn on people messing with their phone at a stop sign or dodging them as they swerve on the highway. Cell phones are like crack when people get in the car.
Why is this so hard to take some tablet and add amplifier at the back and make it double din. Instead they have to make shitty lagy resistive touchscreen crap.
Hey, maybe do everyone a favor and mute yourself when you say "Hey Google" so you're not activating everyones assistants.... Friendly criticism seeing as that would deter me from wanting to watch any more of your videos
If w4400 nex is only compatible with google phones then why is there android auto and iPhone carplay? Rip Off! The people who sold me this didn't know this until I made them find out why my I dont get all the functions all the time. Stereo Center in Bakersfield, Ca. Is there not a brake bypass for the model yet?
It is compatible with all modern Android phones via the wired connection. It is the wireless connection that isn't yet. The phones need to be updated to the latest OS and for some like Samsung that will be happening in Q1 2019.
DO NOT BUY!!!! Avh w4500 nex FULL OF ISSUES. LIFESPAN ON AVERAGE OF 18 MONTHS 😂 cheap SD cards used that fail and pioneer will charge you $200 a year to fix it. What a joke. Don’t waste your money
This deck doesn't work wirelessly with android phones unless you have 1 of 2 android phones. A lawsuit should be filed against either pioneer or Google if it doesn't work wirelessly soon
You made my phone look for restaurants.
You can upload images threw your USB for your background
I'm actually in the market for a new head unit to replace my stock unit which lacks Bluetooth. I wasn't considering Pioneer, but your review shows me I might have to reconsider. I also spend a lot of time in my vehicle (beverage sales), and Wireless Android Auto would be so useful!
I definitely recommend it. Can't say enough positive things about it.
that's awesome, i always forget leaving my phone in the car.
Resistive touch-screens shouldn't be a thing anymore. It's just plain ridiculous devices in this price range have them.
Completely agree. Really wish the prices were lower as well. I imagine that they will offer variants without the CD/DVD player in the future which will be a few hundred bucks cheaper.
Some non wireless, capacitive screened head units with Android auto go for 399 now. Also, of you live somewhere cold, resistive screens have their uses
@@nagantm441 What model?
They should have a bracket for an Ipad mini and just set an Ipad in there XD
@@Frenchyk probably Chinese stuff where you just exchange personal info for the discount
Nothing like having to push the screen 2 and 3 times to get it to respond..
I use android auto often in my car using the stock head unit. Wireless android would be nice in those times I'm in a rush and can't plug my phone in before leaving
Yeah, the wireless connection is a game changer.
What you reviewers never mention is that these Pioneer head unit's wireless function DOES NOT work with the latest Samsung Galaxy phones. I just spent an hour with Pioneer technical support only to have the guy give me the last minute news...'Oh yeah, you won't be able to use phone call audio with a Samsung phone unless you use the USB cord, and the Maestro feature will sometimes make the entire system buggy"...
Nowhere does Pioneer mention that Galaxy phones won't work wirelessly with these.
Good news for you. One ui 2.0 added support for android auto.
you triggered my google home mini from across the room, starting giving me restaurants around me haha
And I think it's pretty obvious that the car audio industry is purposely slow rolling out the technology to make money. That's Pioneers "flagship" head unit"? Flagship? Really? Look at those buttons! They haven't changed since the 90s! I have a Note 10+ . It's 1/20th the size with 2000x the capability. What have they been doing for the past 20 years?? My phone can Make 3d images, can be turned into a credit card, IS a mobile film studio, has a pen that can control the screen, I can talk to people face to face live, check my heart rate, measure distances, store 10,000 songs, it's a calculator, it's a television, it's a camcorder, it has countless gps services and music players, AND it can get me laid.
And the radio is like "I've got gps for those hard to reach places" and by the time it loads up I can order a pizza, hooker, and a tomahawk missle strike.....
So again I ask- just what in the absolute mother bleeping bleep are you car stereo people doing? Besides nothing..
I just bought the 4500 model.... Crushfield told me to hook up the brake wire I don't like it ...now I have to take it apart and buy the adapter so I have full functionality
You should probably omit the Hey Google. It set off my devices every time.
Damn wish my 1500nex supported wireless Android auto...
You know....when you said "hey google" my phone suddenly responded. wtheck? (it really did). Thanks for the vid I just bought a new pioneer thinking it had the wireless android but no?...the people at crutchfield didnt hear me say "wireless android auto" I suppose so sold me the 4400NEX without CD player and I already installed it.
Dude quality video. You got yourself a new subscriber.
Side note. You shouldn't pause between "Hey Google" and "show me the nearest restaurants." You should just say "Hey Google, show me the nearest restaurants." Just let it flow.
With android auto, you have to wait for the tone before you talk. It's not as like a google home yet.
instantly press like when he said he has no iOS device woohoo!
Wireless is nice and seamless, but with a cable connection, it does keep your phone changred, that should be a great reason to go cabled.
Its weird how slow the development on this seems.. How come a device for 1200 USD lags? Is it poor hardware or just bad optimizations, or both? But yeah in the future when price drops & it gets more effective it will be interesting. Now though? No thanks, to early to invest in...
Car entertainment units are notoriously laggy. It's been that way for a decade. But honestly, it's not really that big of an issue since it's not a system that you're constantly interacting with like a smartphone. You ask for directions, start your Playlist and then maybe skip a few songs every ten minutes or so.
It is because the phone is connected wirelessly which is a new feature. I use my pixel 2 xl with USB in my car and is doesn't lag nearly this much. It also doesn't have that huge delay after you touch the screen.
Not only that but still there are not many car companies that offer Wireless Apple car play or Android Auto built-in to their infotainment systems other than maybe Mercedes.
@@Armmani2000 that's because it's a new feature for 2018. That means the earliest cars with it built in will be 2019 models. Usually car companies are a year or two behind, so don't expect it to be standard until 2020.
@@joecalabro7929 You got a point there. Heard the Pixel 2 was a better leap than Pixel 3. On the safe & snappy HTC U12+ myself. Sorry for deviating from the subject 🙂
Hi. I have the nex 6500. I am having trouble connecting the android audio on my pioneer. I can connect Bluetooth but can see the app on the unit. Can you help
Thank you for the detailed review
So no CZcams videos on android auto?while driving
Hi man plz can you tell us about sound quality ? How many speakers support? And steering wheel control supported for all vehicle?
Is the phone and the Pioneer always connected when you are in the car? Lets say... you are driving a 1 hour drive and only want listen to fm radio.. Is the deviced then connected via Android auto or only bluetooth? Thanks for the review btw.
How does the interface work if you want to listen to SiriusXM while also using Waze? Or something similar?
Apparently it does but unfortunately you can't control it via same android auto voice control. www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/41wfsw/using_the_fm_radio_and_android_auto_simulatiously/
You did the right thing and didn't pay for Chinese junk monitors, they break after a while but the Pioneer is great even if it was assembled in China.
I have one in layaway. WILL IT FIX IN MY 04 TRAILBLAZER???
I would still prefer the wire connected android auto, as it would charge my phone simultaneously and not eating up my battery.
On long trips, I do plug the phone in so that it stays charged, but having the wireless Android Auto connection makes it so much more convenient when you just want to jump into your car and drive.
High Tech Traveler in the future those devices will most likely wirelessly charge your device as well lol..
The problem with using wired Android Auto is the charging output is very low from most of these head units including the factory ones... when plugged in using Android Auto it takes forever to charge your phone.
So the great thing about Wireless Android auto is you can use a proper fast-charging charger in your car and actually charge your phone quickly when using Android auto.
If I am using wireless google map on this units can I use my phone for something else and make phone calls and the Google map will still show on the unit ? Also, does the screen of the phone has to remain on all the time or what?
@@jam471975 my sony xav 5000, which is an amazing value for money head unit, has fast charging. It's a 7 Inch unit with beautiful screen and capacitive touch control.
can android auto connect to torque pro obd readers ?
Why would you need built in GPS if you have Android auto?
Phones dead, no cell phone service
I purchased the 4400 with the PIONEER AVIC-U280 add-on. I will be putting both a back up camera and a front-end camera for my very lifted Silverado - I got tired of hitting people... Could you tell me how the AM receiver performs with these units - Thanks!
How do you activate WiFi through Android studio to connect to your phone wirelessly? I have a jvc unit that says it's supported.
Is this compatible with and Apple I phone x ? What size is the screen ( diagonally ) ?
Great review
The expensive part is not the radio itself. It’s the installation and integrations of this thing. I agree these radio are outdated. We all can agree a $100 iPad can do more than these ;)
Hmm hard to decide what to buy right now, the 8400NEX is only $750.. but I"m thinking of waiting for the Sony XAV-AX7000 for better audio quality with the built-in amp, but it's not wireless android auto. Is wireless really worth it? I like having the phone plugged in for long trips so it can stay charged.
Yes because head units frequently don't offer enough current over USB to charge a device while using Android auto. With wireless, you can charge using a quick charge compatible adapter.
Can u use iOS Bluetooth to Jw
It’s nice but only works with the pixel at the moment or Android auto. I wish it could work with more devices. On the other hand apple car play will work with many IPhones .
Google confirmed roll out to all with next update of AA
I have a 2006 Titan and just had the AVIC8500 installed. Everything works great, but my dash replacement faceplate is not fitting perfectly. Did you have this issue, if so, how did you fix it. I see the upper part of your piece is a little off like you sanded it.
How much did it cost you to have it installed? Thanks
@@dcas2341 I got it from Best Buy. They price matched Amazon. The cost was $836 I think. I paid another $200 to geek squad for a membership to have anything I buy installed for free after that.
This is nice. Might check this out. Thanks!
Is it slow and laggy because of the wireless or has it got better with updates?
No, it's slow because of the processor inside the head unit.
Price difference is absurd. You could buy a good phone with the better maps built in for the price difference. Being resistive as well as not being low resolution (relative to every other screen you can buy from even the cheapest tablets) just seems strange. Seems like it should be more expensive to use these low rest resistive screens given the scale of higher definition capacitive screen.
do more head units!
@0:00 nothing much buddy ! You tell me whats going on ?
Nice video sir
Thanks, as always.
Do I have to hook up my S8 galaxy to see my downloaded spotify playlist on my phone or will it do it wirelessly?? I do not use data to play spotify so I download to the phone but it's a pain to be surfing your phone to see or change your playlist! Thanks! If all this can be done wirelessly then how do I do it as I just got it installed and am I little clueless on how to navigate it!
You have to hook up. Wireles Android auto is currently only available for like 6 Google phones. Once Android 9.0 update comes out our S8's should work wirelessly.
Okay, so seeing wireless is pretty much worthless for Android Auto, what is the latest and greatest non-wireless head unit out right now? I'm not paying the extra cost for a feature that doesn't support 95% of the Android phones on the market right now. Thanks
Will this fit in my 2008 ford mustang?
Probably, I would check out Crutchfield for more information.
Never ever say the phrase for real in a CZcams video had to mute this video so much
Android auto pops up automatically don't like that...power is nice...don't need a amp right away sounds good factory replacement... also can not turn the screen off while playing music
What am I missing here? Why charge for navigation, and why would anyone do that? I mean , I got Google, Bixby, Siri, Waze, Yahoo, and idk dozens more, all free. So...... 🤷🏻♂️
Such a high price on both devices, one lags and the other is missing features that a 50 dollar unit can have. Yeah, not for me.
That's Bullshit I have 8500nex and android wireless does not work wireless. only wired USB !!!
Yep. Only a couple google phones work with Wireless AA. Everyone else is out of luck, and no time table on when other devices will work with it either.
support.google.com/androidauto/thread/3056565?hl=en
yea.. how about you not constantly say hey google.. as most people have smart speakers..
To this date, you have to a GOOGLE PIXEL & Nexus 5X and 6P phones to be able to use this wireless android auto. Need to EMPHASIZE that, disclosure at the beginning of the video. Otherwise, people will be spending lots of money and will have no change to what they already have.
Seriously! The Amazon reviews of the AVH-W4400NEX back this up
Nice review... my only complaint is saying "Hay Google" so many damn times... I mean seriously these reviews doing this is getting very annoying! Demonstrating the hands free assessment once is fine and then after that hit the button if you want to keep showing what the assistant can do.
I don't appreciate my Google Home going off 10 times during these reviews.
Fiddle with cables...dude it takes about 10 seconds to plug in the USB cable on the no wireless model...lol!! We can't be THAT lazy and inpatient..can we?..lol! Pioneer apparently thinks they have a few suckers out there...lol!!! Nice demo though
One less thing to keep your eyes on the road and not fiddling with the phone.....If you think everyone will do this BEFORE they start driving.....I have worn out my horn on people messing with their phone at a stop sign or dodging them as they swerve on the highway. Cell phones are like crack when people get in the car.
thanks sir. how can i buy this in India (Punjab) for my Toyota Etios?
Why is this so hard to take some tablet and add amplifier at the back and make it double din. Instead they have to make shitty lagy resistive touchscreen crap.
Pioneer Avic w8500nex is not android auto wireless, you will need a wired USB connections, and by the way it is not better than CarPlay !!!
Hey, maybe do everyone a favor and mute yourself when you say "Hey Google" so you're not activating everyones assistants....
Friendly criticism seeing as that would deter me from wanting to watch any more of your videos
If w4400 nex is only compatible with google phones then why is there android auto and iPhone carplay?
Rip Off! The people who sold me this didn't know this until I made them find out why my I dont get all the functions all the time.
Stereo Center in Bakersfield, Ca.
Is there not a brake bypass for the model yet?
It is compatible with all modern Android phones via the wired connection. It is the wireless connection that isn't yet. The phones need to be updated to the latest OS and for some like Samsung that will be happening in Q1 2019.
CENSOR THE "HEY GOOGLE"
Too expensive, at those prices I'd rather just use my phone.
DO NOT BUY!!!! Avh w4500 nex FULL OF ISSUES. LIFESPAN ON AVERAGE OF 18 MONTHS 😂 cheap SD cards used that fail and pioneer will charge you $200 a year to fix it. What a joke. Don’t waste your money
This deck doesn't work wirelessly with android phones unless you have 1 of 2 android phones. A lawsuit should be filed against either pioneer or Google if it doesn't work wirelessly soon
Anytime, any day, apple carplay is better than android auto
Wish I has an iOS device to test it with to do a comparison.
High Tech Traveler Still waiting on your IOS review!!