I was 7 when this movie came out..the gto got me into cars..itl always b one of most memorable movies..the 68 gto is one of the most coolest muscle cars i ended up buying one in the late 90s ended up selling it..sure should have kept it.
A Friend of mine had a 69 GTO JUDGE Carousel Red with the stripes and lettering (the word JUDGE on the fender) with the 400 cid motor Ram air IV it had a knob under the dash to open and close the hood scoops, 4 speed , posi trac Hood mounted Tach, everything. He claimed it had a 4:11 gear in it but I never did believe that because the car had too much top end speed for that low of a gear. Anyway it was a nice car and it ran good and sounded good to be stock, it came from the factory with a bigger CAM than the ram air III or the reg. 400 cid.
At 11:21 you hear a Chrysler engine turning over, not a GM. Those old Chrysler starters had a unique sound and you couldn't mistake them for anything else and back in the day this was THE default engine starting sound they used in every movie regardless of the type of car it was for.
I love this movie, it came out in '85, when I was 15. You could have a switch operated blower in 1985, but it would be tricky, and you'd need a lot more money than the character in this movie has. You could even make the whole switch operated set up look identical, and as clean as this GTO's engine looks. Like you suggested, this car's engine is a movie prop, with a simple electric motor to drive the blower belt, and just like in Mad Max, that blower is looks only, and absolutely non functional. To make it work, you'd need a clutch type pulley, like an A/C compressor pulley, on the crank. Probably not an A/C compressor pulley from an old Pontiac, though...to drive that big Roots style blower, you'd want that same 12v clutch style engineering in stouter form, something industrial maybe. That way the crank's v belt pulley would still spin the water pump and alternator, but the crank's blower pulley would freewheel until you hit the batman switch in the dash. Energized, the clutch pulley would engage, and would only then drive the blower belt. You could also have the crank blower pulley fixed, and have the electrically activated clutch pulley on the blower itself, but then the blower belt would always be in motion while the engine is running and in the movie, we can see the the belt is stationary while he's driving in the high school parking lot. For accuracy, the freewheeling would have to be down below, on the crank pulley. Now there aren't carburetors on top of that blower...same with Mad Max, and there are no visible external fuel injection lines going into that GTO's blower manifold. This means that you have to hide all of your direct port, mechanical fuel injection plumbing under the blower manifold, but that's not a problem. The tricky part is that you need to be able to deliver airflow to the intake ports when the batman switch is off, and the blower rotors are stationary. Stationary rotors would block airflow from the scoop to the intake ports, due to their tight clearances. Opening up those clearances would defeat the purpose of the blower. So, the only option is to hide a smaller blower inside this GTO's GMC 6-71 blower housing, or build a custom 6-71 style blower housing, that's a couple inches wider, and has secondary airflow that goes around the rotor housing to the intake ports in the blower manifold...either way there needs to be a valve that is normally open, and electrically closed, this air valve would allow airflow from the scoop into the external intake runners, while the dash switch is off. When the batman switch engages the blower, by engaging the clutch pulley, it would also have to close the valve to shut off that external air ducting that you added. Lastly, you'd want that batman switch to energize a third feature, which would be a secondary set of mechanical fuel injectors, as the blower creates boost, the additional airflow will lean the air/fuel ratio enough to blow holes into pistons...so a lot more fuel is needed. Computer controlled fuel injection would be ideal, but I'm trying to keep things 1985 here. All that on an engine with forged pistons, an 8.5:1 compression ratio, and a drive pulley that delivers 7 or 8 pounds of boost, should run just fine, regardless of whether the blower is on or off. Could you do it? Yes. Is it worth it? No...but if you've got tons of money, why not, it would be one hell of a science project. More of an engineering project, I guess.
I have to give this movie credit, they used a REAL PMD engine. Yea, they borrowed the idea, but the "idea" isn't new, just be glad they didn't put the 2-Speed rear axle shifter in like Max did. On another note, MAD MAX used a Pontiac motor for the shot in the garage. Funny to think the 2 most renowned fake blowers were on top of Pontiac engines :/
I am a Poncho fan, like the 62 Catalina with the 421 SD mill, and the 67 Bonneville 2+2,,, but at the end of the Flick, when 'Dennis' and his sweety stall out on the roadway,,,,, THAT soundbyte of the starter cranking,,,, that is hands down, a Mopar starter soundbyte. Sorry Guys,,,, love those big Poncho valve covers,,, but even ZZ Top used a Mopar gear reduction starter soundbyte in their song 'Manic Mechanic'. There's no mistaking that sound.
Yeah he was awesome... I wanted to tell him that... when I was working on a show he was on...but I thought I would respect his privacy, and say nothing.
It can be done, but you'll never get a lot of boost pressure because of the clutch you would have to use to disengage and engage the blower with. If you tried to get a lot of pressure the pulley clutch would burn up.
And there's so much wrong with that blower set up...ummm wheres the carburetors?! The shotgun hood scoop is sitting right on top of the supercharger.not how it works..oh well.
To me the sexiest front of any car is 68 mercury cougar and 69 charger and Stang boss front is like it's off slant shape looks like blade cut throughout its way..
It is completely possible to create a clutched supercharger that can be switched on and off... The Toyota Previa had one. However, this one is bullshit. Nonetheless I kinda wish I'd seen this movie back in the 80's. It looks like a perfectly awful movie I would enjoy.
The gto in this movie has an AC compressor clutch with a roots supercharger kit that could be switched on and off, sadly it was a limited edition blower created in the 80's, it was very expensive and soon none existed because of the fuel economy
I wonder what happened to that beautiful G.T.O.? And for the money that the film studio would spend why not make the blower work as they do?God Bless.Peace.Love.
It's Hollywood, like first Fast and Furious movie, and that wheel hanging Charger. They used a hydraulic ram to raise the front end, while the rear tires are breaking traction no less, so that's silly. Why not just find a car at the drag strip that really lifts the front end? I like the switched blower idea, though. Saw it in Mad Max when that movie first came out, saw it in this movie, when it came out. I knew it was fake, but I asked myself how it could be done. It could absolutely be done, as I stated in a response above. It's a fun idea that I've given a lot of thought to.
Nah thats pretty pathetic, particularly considering the car was supposed to be built to the hilt. WTF kind of gears was he running to be doing 7000rpm at 85mph....like 5.13? And knowing that, he must have been turning nearly 10k RPM to have hit 120. Meanwhile, the motor sounded like it was running at MAYBE 5500 tops. Its good it was all fake...gears like that, the moment he let off the gas at that speed, the car would have spun and rolled. Movie would have ended with 3 dead kids not seeing the end of the world. Then at the end with the mopar starter dubbed in.....WTF? I loved this movie as a kid (amd still do) but even then the continuity and car related errors drove me nuts. BTW my first car was a 1984 Nissan Pulsar complete with the ground pounding 69hp E16 2bbl motor. That car had less trouble hitting 100mph than this movie car did. My 2nd car was a 1972 Buick skylark, which was the same length, width, wheelbase, height, wheel track, and weight as this 69 goat. Was the stock 350 Buick 2bbl carb motor (rated at 150 net hp), the sole mod was a dual exhaust. It had absolutely no problem reaching 120mph.....the 2.56 gears helped with that. The actual cars uses I believe were stock LeMans cars some of which were inline six base models...those i could see having trouble doing 90.
I was 7 when this movie came out..the gto got me into cars..itl always b one of most memorable movies..the 68 gto is one of the most coolest muscle cars i ended up buying one in the late 90s ended up selling it..sure should have kept it.
This is when i fell in love with the GTO when i was kid
Loved his Goat. Definitely had an affect on me.
hey its dennis! From Christine!
and Fisher Stevens from the movie Short Circuit.
Dj Meyer he was also the pilot who loses his cool and gives maverick and goose the chance to be topgun
yup and he drove a charger in that
And on top gun he turned in his wings.
A Friend of mine had a 69 GTO JUDGE Carousel Red with the stripes and lettering (the word JUDGE on the fender) with the 400 cid motor Ram air IV it had a knob under the dash to open and close the hood scoops, 4 speed , posi trac Hood mounted Tach, everything. He claimed it had a 4:11 gear in it but I never did believe that because the car had too much top end speed for that low of a gear. Anyway it was a nice car and it ran good and sounded good to be stock, it came from the factory with a bigger CAM than the ram air III or the reg. 400 cid.
Gonna get a 4 speed muncie in my '68 Le Mans in the summer. Have an original PMD 400. Everything will be fantastic. Verdoro Green!
11:28 is a MOPAR starter.........banged on many to know this distinctive sound
Mini starters sound like that too...I haveone in my 66 goat.
Great to see those 80s movies back. Nothing like those!!👍👍
I'd love to see this car cross the block at Barret Jackson complete with mink steering wheel cover! The 80's were the best.
Man I love this movie!! Fisher Stevens was so funny... made it so enjoyable to watch he had the best lines!! Love the goat as well!
Sure...all car enthusiasts use a hammer and chisel to remove license plates.
one of those days man.
I was asking myself, TF is this kid talking about, then got to the 30 second mark... o_0 the hell?
Been trying to find this movie forever!
At 11:21 you hear a Chrysler engine turning over, not a GM. Those old Chrysler starters had a unique sound and you couldn't mistake them for anything else and back in the day this was THE default engine starting sound they used in every movie regardless of the type of car it was for.
Gear reduction starters sounded like that back then. Tilton was the main aftermarket starter then. Used mainly on really high compression engines.
Iv loved this movie since I was a kid and that GTO is my dream car just like that one exactly
Hennessy 1979 1968 last year for the cozy wing on the door and first year for "endura bumper" and hidden headlights...motor trend car of the year.
They stole the idea for the Supercharger on/off switch from Mad Max, and that's not how Superchargers work... Or sound. But still cool.
I love this movie, it came out in '85, when I was 15. You could have a switch operated blower in 1985, but it would be tricky, and you'd need a lot more money than the character in this movie has. You could even make the whole switch operated set up look identical, and as clean as this GTO's engine looks. Like you suggested, this car's engine is a movie prop, with a simple electric motor to drive the blower belt, and just like in Mad Max, that blower is looks only, and absolutely non functional. To make it work, you'd need a clutch type pulley, like an A/C compressor pulley, on the crank. Probably not an A/C compressor pulley from an old Pontiac, though...to drive that big Roots style blower, you'd want that same 12v clutch style engineering in stouter form, something industrial maybe. That way the crank's v belt pulley would still spin the water pump and alternator, but the crank's blower pulley would freewheel until you hit the batman switch in the dash. Energized, the clutch pulley would engage, and would only then drive the blower belt. You could also have the crank blower pulley fixed, and have the electrically activated clutch pulley on the blower itself, but then the blower belt would always be in motion while the engine is running and in the movie, we can see the the belt is stationary while he's driving in the high school parking lot. For accuracy, the freewheeling would have to be down below, on the crank pulley. Now there aren't carburetors on top of that blower...same with Mad Max, and there are no visible external fuel injection lines going into that GTO's blower manifold. This means that you have to hide all of your direct port, mechanical fuel injection plumbing under the blower manifold, but that's not a problem. The tricky part is that you need to be able to deliver airflow to the intake ports when the batman switch is off, and the blower rotors are stationary. Stationary rotors would block airflow from the scoop to the intake ports, due to their tight clearances. Opening up those clearances would defeat the purpose of the blower. So, the only option is to hide a smaller blower inside this GTO's GMC 6-71 blower housing, or build a custom 6-71 style blower housing, that's a couple inches wider, and has secondary airflow that goes around the rotor housing to the intake ports in the blower manifold...either way there needs to be a valve that is normally open, and electrically closed, this air valve would allow airflow from the scoop into the external intake runners, while the dash switch is off. When the batman switch engages the blower, by engaging the clutch pulley, it would also have to close the valve to shut off that external air ducting that you added. Lastly, you'd want that batman switch to energize a third feature, which would be a secondary set of mechanical fuel injectors, as the blower creates boost, the additional airflow will lean the air/fuel ratio enough to blow holes into pistons...so a lot more fuel is needed. Computer controlled fuel injection would be ideal, but I'm trying to keep things 1985 here. All that on an engine with forged pistons, an 8.5:1 compression ratio, and a drive pulley that delivers 7 or 8 pounds of boost, should run just fine, regardless of whether the blower is on or off. Could you do it? Yes. Is it worth it? No...but if you've got tons of money, why not, it would be one hell of a science project. More of an engineering project, I guess.
Owen Robertson Holy shit dude you've got a lot of spare time on your hands.
I have to give this movie credit, they used a REAL PMD engine.
Yea, they borrowed the idea, but the "idea" isn't new, just be glad they didn't put the 2-Speed rear axle shifter in like Max did.
On another note, MAD MAX used a Pontiac motor for the shot in the garage. Funny to think the 2 most renowned fake blowers were on top of Pontiac engines :/
I am a Poncho fan, like the 62 Catalina with the 421 SD mill, and the 67 Bonneville 2+2,,, but at the end of the Flick, when 'Dennis' and his sweety stall out on the roadway,,,,, THAT soundbyte of the starter cranking,,,, that is hands down, a Mopar starter soundbyte.
Sorry Guys,,,, love those big Poncho valve covers,,, but even ZZ Top used a Mopar gear reduction starter soundbyte in their song 'Manic Mechanic'.
There's no mistaking that sound.
Loved this movie
Filmed in Tucson , AZ when they made a lot of movies here !
Needs to be a part 2
Fisher Stevens (Vincent Latello in the film) completely stole the show. 99% of his lines were hilarious!!!
He once dated Michelle Pfeiffer. I know, right?
Yeah he was awesome... I wanted to tell him that... when I was working on a show he was on...but I thought I would respect his privacy, and say nothing.
3344
that was a great movie one of my favorite movie cars
Now we are talking HYPER SPACE
Nathan Estlund hyper spaceship 🚀 😎
NO....Its not just a car..😮
Dennis Hopper raced an F 100 beside them like the green one in KING OF THE MOUNTAIN
Blowers are belt driven so you cannot just turn them on,lol
Some people have fit some Roots with AC compressor clutches.
But it's the stuff of dreams.
harley Rider trying to be like mad max
It can be done, but you'll never get a lot of boost pressure because of the clutch you would have to use to disengage and engage the blower with. If you tried to get a lot of pressure the pulley clutch would burn up.
Anyone else notice the blower isn't even spinning
Sweet Riviera.
Yea...that "my other cars a piece of shit too" bumper sticker was totally outta place!
A friend has a ‘68 gto red with a blower sticking up where the hood used to be.
That blower belt ain't turnin! Mine sure does.
The most beautiful car ever in a movie!
I don't like the wheels you see in some scenes, but it is pretty nice
...I'd pass on the painted rear bumper too.
Gotta love the Trans Am WS6 15x8 snowflake wheels on it haha.
Fisher Stevens made this movie work, especially the popup finger.
This movie fuckn rocks!
That 400 would have been all over the ground at 7000rpm lol
And there's so much wrong with that blower set up...ummm wheres the carburetors?! The shotgun hood scoop is sitting right on top of the supercharger.not how it works..oh well.
This is a good movie
I wonder where this car is now?
I am surprised Anime is not all over stuff like this and now 235s front N50's rear
Mantap jiwa
The sound guy needs to go for ride in blower car . Homework does not end in high school .
1 Sweet ride.
What version of Gimme Shelter is that at the beginning of the video and towards the end at 12:21
I always wondered why the rest of them didn't just drive around her.
Wat song is playing in the intro before the car chase plays?
It's McClowsky from LOST rescue ship, season 4. @ 1:31
7:29 ole Gto blasting down the road
Madmax had a button fr HIS blower TOO!
Was that Dennis Hopper???
Lone wolf mcquade also had supercharger police truck off and on
You know that bitch is fast when you can outrun electricity. lol
So old school GTOs have a hard time climbing over 100 unless they have a 6-71? Ouch
Not really
Floordford shut up you’re a dumbass you were probably born after 2000 and never even sat in one of these
And this movie started me off
Me too.
Dust it off Mikey, dust it off.....
To me the sexiest front of any car is 68 mercury cougar and 69 charger and Stang boss front is like it's off slant shape looks like blade cut throughout its way..
Song intro??
Awesome movie... cult classic!
Hey look it’s the guy from Christine and he’s talking about a girl being a car
Car making noise and supercharger belt and pulls standing still 😂😂
no, not just a car
Is that Fisher Stevens ?
Harlan, why don't you tell us about your science project!!!!
What is the movie called
Ryan Roman my science project
What is the movie's name???
Yaroslav But My Science Project
It is completely possible to create a clutched supercharger that can be switched on and off... The Toyota Previa had one. However, this one is bullshit.
Nonetheless I kinda wish I'd seen this movie back in the 80's. It looks like a perfectly awful movie I would enjoy.
kurt gotti movie logic makes anything possible
kurt gotti
The gto in this movie has an AC compressor clutch with a roots supercharger kit that could be switched on and off, sadly it was a limited edition blower created in the 80's, it was very expensive and soon none existed because of the fuel economy
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Masukan tv di mnctv
Fastest muscle car ever!
Hit the blowa !
I wonder what happened to that beautiful G.T.O.? And for the money that the film studio would spend why not make the blower work as they do?God Bless.Peace.Love.
It's Hollywood, like first Fast and Furious movie, and that wheel hanging Charger. They used a hydraulic ram to raise the front end, while the rear tires are breaking traction no less, so that's silly. Why not just find a car at the drag strip that really lifts the front end? I like the switched blower idea, though. Saw it in Mad Max when that movie first came out, saw it in this movie, when it came out. I knew it was fake, but I asked myself how it could be done. It could absolutely be done, as I stated in a response above. It's a fun idea that I've given a lot of thought to.
Those cars where the cheapest things they could find they paint up land its good
hit the blower......HAHAHAHAHAHA!
120 in a 3400 pound car+3 people is pretty impressive af, especially for the 80s like this.
Captain FALKEN - and hitting the sign that fast and the bumps. Would’ve totaled that Goat
Nah thats pretty pathetic, particularly considering the car was supposed to be built to the hilt. WTF kind of gears was he running to be doing 7000rpm at 85mph....like 5.13? And knowing that, he must have been turning nearly 10k RPM to have hit 120. Meanwhile, the motor sounded like it was running at MAYBE 5500 tops. Its good it was all fake...gears like that, the moment he let off the gas at that speed, the car would have spun and rolled. Movie would have ended with 3 dead kids not seeing the end of the world.
Then at the end with the mopar starter dubbed in.....WTF?
I loved this movie as a kid (amd still do) but even then the continuity and car related errors drove me nuts.
BTW my first car was a 1984 Nissan Pulsar complete with the ground pounding 69hp E16 2bbl motor. That car had less trouble hitting 100mph than this movie car did.
My 2nd car was a 1972 Buick skylark, which was the same length, width, wheelbase, height, wheel track, and weight as this 69 goat. Was the stock 350 Buick 2bbl carb motor (rated at 150 net hp), the sole mod was a dual exhaust.
It had absolutely no problem reaching 120mph.....the 2.56 gears helped with that.
The actual cars uses I believe were stock LeMans cars some of which were inline six base models...those i could see having trouble doing 90.
A gto with trans am rims? Who in the hell did that?
Woodstock, oinker!
who thought it was cool to put 70's Trans Am rims on a 68 GTO? YIKES..
That's exactly how my turbo GTO runns 😆
Watttt
it's a '69
because why, because you said so. Is there a single reason why you thinks it's a '69. Here's one reason it's NOT a '69, this GTO has door vent windows
Did 68's have a hood tac?
you are correct. got gto and firebird confused.
absolutely !!
It's a 68 with a painted rear bumper
lol slow
Hollywood fake car, SMH.