'I don't like it. Referees aren't in control anymore' | Ange fuming about VAR after Spurs loss
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- čas přidán 5. 11. 2023
- Ange Postecoglou faced the media after Tottenham Hotspur's loss to Chelsea in the Premier League, making his feelings clear about VAR...
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So well spoken and logical. If this guy ran the premier league itd be perfect
Lmao the guy has never managed in England. Managed in little shitty leagues like Scotland, Japan and Greece. But now after 10 games you want him running the premier league?😂😂😂🤡
Absolutely agree with this man. It’s terrible for match-going fans. Seems to have been brought in to serve all the people who enjoy football exclusively through screens (and probably mostly as video games). Goal line tech is enough.
Videogames don't have VAR 😂
Yes but many people who experience football mostly through them tend not to understand how real football works. Or care.
@@trevorkew6097Agree, overuse of Video Ref has been killing the flow of a few sports & scrutinizing goals for minutes is quite tedious for fans.
Bingo! I've even got to know the people around my seat better ffs😂. Back in days, you'd know person to your left, person to your right, and you'd be aware of guy behind who always moans, and one in front that leaves in the 87th minute. Now we're having full blown f***ng convos taking place, to fill the time, when we're just waiting around.
Absolutely, totally agree with you about getting to know people haha. Full blown convos wondering what in the world is going on...or just about the weather, etc. eventually...@@moadtouhami
What Ange said is 100% true for all us football fans, this guy speaks so much common sense for us......................The Aussie Spurs Fan.
Respect Ange! Respect! I was confident he’d speak like an adult instead of throwing an Arteta sized tantrum.
mate theres nothing Ange needs to have a tantrum about! All correct decisions!
@@pmedilall same for Arteta champ
@@pmedilallNothing wrong with the arsenal game either 😂
U can't moan when it's your turn then guys, fir me these refs are completely incompetent and it makes me sick because it will happen to my club at some point this season, imagine Liverpool lose the prem by a point, outrage
The size of farteta I would say
I’m with Ange well said honestly he’s old school the way var is going it’s not good , it takes 2 minutes just to check a offside let the game go on and play I hate this stop start stop start in the premier league 😢
No no no. You are dead wrong. It is more important to make a right call than rush things. Only balls in the net are checked for offside now. Do you mean that you just assume no offside when a ball is in the net? Just make it fast? No check whatever. The most important thing is to get the calls right.
@@catchnkill shut up
@@catchnkill exactly, thats why arsenal's offside against brentford wasn't called. They didn't want to 'disrupt the game'
@@catchnkill
You do realizd stopping for such an amount of time and then carrying the game on with such intensity is damaging to the players? They're humans ffs not robots, no wonder almost every club has been in injury crisis mode as of late
@@chrisf.9595 It is absolute nonsense without any sense. One or two minute waiting is nothing. Basketball players get in and out many times in a game. Just watch NBA. No complaint so far for playing players in and out and let them sit for some minutes and then ask them to play again immediately. Football is nothing comparing immediate intensity as basketball. It is just a lame excuse to bash VAR.
Well spoken Ange , even with a loss it still feels like a winner , congrets to all .
yeah my thoughts exactly. back in the day, if the player was more or less inline with the defender, he's onside. none of this taking 5 minutes and drawing lines rubbish.
can't argue with any of that!
Well said Ange the game doesn’t flow now
He's right. I love watching the FA cup without var, much better, loving football again.
old man shouting at the clouds
Ange just hit us with a simpson meme LOL
For me, VAR isnt an issue. VAR has merely acted as a magnifying glass for the true contentious issue which is the rules of the game themselves. Football has always had built into its rules with the degree of subjectivity to the referee. That hasnt changed by adding VAR. There is no mathematical proof to give a foul or not. And with respect to offside, they're just applying the offside rule as it's written and they're applying it the same to all teams. Once again though, there are subjective offsides which nothing can prove definitively.
Great comment
You can accept mistakes when they are made because the ref sees it in real-time and easily done, but we have VAR and the decisions are still wrong! And it's destroying the flow of the game
For right or wrong refs should be allowed to ref. VAR should be dumped.
It's surprising that the best Premier League in the world has the worst referees.
It's really disappointing that the quality of referees in the Premier League is barely this high.
I’m still loving big Ange let’s see who wins the league
Probs we won’t win it this season, don’t have a squad but next season we’ll push for it
VAR should have a time limit of 30 seconds. If it means on the odd occasion the incorrect decision is made then so be it, the VAR officials are humans too
He's speaking truthfully from his point of view about the effects of VAR on the game. It's called the beautiful game for a reason, the game flows and allows for the free expression of natural skill with two feet. People don't seem to realise comparing it to rugby and American football or others sports makes little sense, these sports have always had pauses and resets in play. Football is a free flowing game, eventually the introduction of referees on mic explaining decisions on the pitch will slowly diminish the beauty of the game and its appeal.
And why is that a problem? You are there to ensure that players STICK to the rules. If you cannot give completely machine like accuracy, then step aside and let a machine do it.
We only had referees in the past because we didn’t have a better alternative. Now, we have VAR, so your job is just to be a on site person to direct the game via the analysis made by VAR.
Get rid of var it's destroying the game
Are we going to end up like the NFL in which we play for 30 seconds and take a 30second break? The NFL has 4x 15min quarters but takes 3.5hours to play. You end up watching the refs and VAR more than game time!
People want to be involved. People running officiating want to be involved...want to be making decisions.
The refs are weak, pressured, paralysed.
They dont make decisions they know to be correct.
But it's not JUST Webb and his clowns.
It's also the players and managers.
As soon as the ball goes anywhere near an arm or hand the players are up screaming for handball.
Football has eaten itself.
People used to make a tea or get a snack during half time. Now they do it after every goal.
People compare it to Arteta but the calls in the Spurs match were mostly correct so the circumstances are different
It's no surprise that his saying that!i only saw dangerous tackles from his players
He literally said he is always willing to live with the referees decision... Feels like biased comprehension on your part
@fluroflash2803 ok, i take your point.i will come and apologise if next time his players are on the receiving end of dangerous tackles and he comes to defend the referees.
@@user-rn9sv4tu2xAnge knows it goes both ways. Go watch the post game interview from this game, he speaks about it.
VAR has not fixed anything. Games are often being incorrectly won or lost due to the officials. Unfortunately there are still many terrible decisions being made, they’re just taking longer and ruining the flow of the game.
Puts Klopp in his place.
Like Chelsea puts Spurs down.
The standing around all the time waiting for decisions probably contributed to Micky VDVs injury cold muscles and sprints dont match ask sprinters
Referees have turned the greatest Premier League into the worst.
You not the only one ange
The refs are no longer refs anymore they are directors
Refs do realise the longer they take for VAR the more injuries players will have? It’s not good for them to stop and start all the time on their muscles allowing it to cool down waiting for a VAR decision and then going 100% … smh epl going down the drain.
Stuart Sutton
Mistakes happen, move on - Ange haha
Spurs will still win the league, it’s too easy
😂😂😂😂😂
keep in mind van de ven is out for at least 4 months with a hamstring tear
@@dankdracula6089 it doesn’t matter and spurs has the depth
it matters alot, that is an absolutely massive hit for spurs@@ih8mcfly
It’s okay ange spurs will win the league still.
Delusional
Hahahahahahahahaha nice one
How long 😴 😪 😕 🤔
They’ll get top 3 probs. But city are just gonna win. They’ll thrash chelsea too since chelsea struggled against 9 men dier and Hojberg so I doubt they’ll do anything to Dias stones.
Wich league is Spurs going to win Ange League kikikikiki
Nah I don’t get him , you can’t have it both ways , it’s either you the thrill with the chances a biased crazy referee will let you lose or we sacrifice and get that VAR is here to make sure nobody is robbed
Anyone remember Barcelona v Chelsea UCL 2009? I don’t wish that on anyone
Is he really arguing that it's not worth 2 minutes to significantly increase the chance of getting the decision correct? Why would you want referees in charge of difficult decisions that are at normal speed that they only see once usually at difficult angles when you can slow it down and look at it from various angles multiple times. Before VAR there were many, many more incorrect decisions than there are since the introduction of VAR.
Yes but the irony is overall people seem to be less happy because it's slowing game down and causing much more discussion than ever.
If it's affecting the game like this and sentiment is lower I can see the argument. Tough one
Waiting around for decisions allows teams to rest, take a drink and obtain instructions which loses an opponents authority in a game. Having to play an extra 20min due to stoppage's for decisions takes away the games appeal. It becomes like an NFL game...just boring.
People are still arguing that the VAR correct decisions are still incorrect.
@TA-wg9oi exactly nobody seems happy. I think simpler and more incorrect strangely is better. If everyone is complaining it's not enjoyable anymore
You are acting like there isn't a sacrifice for this significant increase. Football relies on its flow.
You on crack?
He’s wasn’t bitching when he played Liverpool.
First of more
"Refrees aren't in control anymore" says Ange who had decisions on his side even during this match.
When Spurs won against Liverpool due to refreeing and VAR mistakes he turned blind eye and said refrees are humans and they also make mistakes. Romero should have been sent off in the first half but he wasn't given a red card. In fact, this match was fairer than the match against Liverpool. Keep fuming Ange.
You clearly didn’t understand what he’s talking about here. He’s not whinging about the refs at all..
Literally ange said That Diaz goal should have been stayed uneducated kid and he isnt even fuming
What? He’s saying exactly that here. Let the referees make decisions and make mistakes. Well comprehended…
dumb chit
What a load of crap - What Ange said is he accepts the referees decisions - good and bad - he accepted the decision against Liverpool and he accepts the decisions today - his only complaint was about the amount of delay and hold up to the game caused by all the VAR stoppages and the problems this causes.
Why is he afraid of police 😂
Because back in the day there weren’t cameras everywhere. Cops back then in Australia too we’re pretty ruthless, especially in the 80’s, there’s a lot of history there.
@@maitlandbezzina2842 oh wow, we learn new things everyday
Growing up in Australia if the cops pulled you over they'd pin something on you or take your stuff.
Excuses, cry
A dinosaur living in the past, why would you be afraid of a referee who makes crazy takes. Get a life Kangaroo Jack, glad you said you are part of the problem. Old methods don’t work for the modern methods where corruption, incompetence and biased behaviour is rife in the game. I don’t like this bloke, he has fake humbleness, let’s see you after you had a string of bad decisions and games “mate”.
How can you not like a correct decision lol
As he said. There not always correct and are done by people watching on a television. It slows down the game and when things are shown in slo-motion they often look worse than intended. Do I need to give more reasons? Lol
@@chippam8 I’d rather trust technology than a ref. Regardless of slowing down a game. What’s most important is the correct decision
@@chippam8 VAR gets the decision wrong rarely tbh (except for liverpools incident), people just dont like the truth of the call against their team and want to go back to referees making decisions within a split second (objectively 1000x worse for the game).
he's ok when romero act like a GK though.
Referee decisions are also right more often than not. If a game has to be paused and slow down to find out the outcome. Your talking mm's in an offside call. In other sports they use the benefit of the doubt rule and the referees decision stays, instead of trying to convince them into reversing decision because it looked worse In slow-mo or an elbow was sticking out and "looks" offside.
LAME EXCUSES.
There were no excuses made in this video at all.
You'r not the sharpest tool in the shed because if you had been able to watch and understand what was said you would have realised there were zero excuses in the video.
You took the lead and lost your heads. Caicedo was denied a clear goal but yeah, it’s the refs’ fault
He didn’t blame the refs. Use your ears
ARE YOU DEAF
this is karma😂
Waiting for Totenham to back their manager and make a statement 😂
Every manager has to take a dig at the referee when things go south. Shame on you managers!
Wtf are you on about, he was defending referees and demand they get respect
Bro didn’t watch the video
This is why uploader shouldnt dump misleading words in the title. People with limited mental capacity like silverstreet will not understand the video or even watch it.
@@fatneko it’s not really misleading. He says that, and he doesn’t like VAR. But people should refrain from spouting nonsense before seeing the full picture
This guy still not a good enough
But still 2nd on the ladder...
He may not be ! But god they play exciting football and he is different from the other carbon copy we have
you was quiet in Liverpool case when you have bribed refs and VAR
It's completely corrupt, suitcases slide all of the time. Super League clubs get an advantage over everyone else, the whole footballing structure in Europe is absolutely and utterly corrupt but it's by design.