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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2022
- A Brampton, Ont., family is being forced to live in their basement because a long wait-list for the provincial tribunal means they've been unable to evict delinquent tenants.
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It’s disgusting how the system fails law abiding citizens. There should be a fast track process to evict parasites.
THE IS NO SYSTEM ITS legalized plunder OR legalized plunder OR shadow government
There is. It's called a beatdown or a good kickass.
Once again...if this person had landlord insurance, which he did not..this would have never happened. Too many people flying under the radar!! Dont feel sorry one bit!
@@leesteal4458 Or a gun.
The same people ask the system to protect those "poor tenants" 👀 if you dont pay you need to get kicked out after a grace period.
These stories need to become more public, this country always expresses how "awful" landlords are. There's also tenants out there that abuse the system.
Nothing a hoodie and a baseball bat can't fix.
No one in North America accepts that the landlord knocks on his door and asks him to leave. The landlord must follow the legal procedure. If the landlord has the right to repossess the home, he may have to pay compensation to cover the expenses of the move. But in most of the cases, the real reason is to replace the tenant with a tenant as a result of the rise in rents, inflation and the housing crisis during the past two years.
@@HamidA-to8vy This is the type to mentality that is making thing worse my dear. No offense, but this is not an Investment property. And if you had seen the post and/or heard what is said in the video, you should see that I am following the law... I am going through the LTB. My bigger complain is not the tenant, but the LTB. If you still don't understand what the news clip is about, kindly stay quite.
@@HamidA-to8vy no!! There are genuinely bad tenants out there!
@@derekhiebert1654 yea and get arrested loose your job and go to jail. Come on now
This behaviour doesn’t just hurt landlords, it hurts other tenants as well. This is the main reason that so many landlords now ask for 4, 5 even 6 months worth of rent up front!
Unfortunately, the problem is not bad tenants or landlords. There will always be ones. The problem is that the authorities let it happen and do little to resolve it quickly enough to not affect both groups. That is why both groups are trying to protect themselves from situations like this to happen. But it is a landlord market now, so they get to choose.
I would never accept a rental arrangement paying 6 months up front. It sounds like a scam...
@@keikairin2038 It's actually illegal to ask for multiple months up front
That can’t be legal.
@@TheJesusofSuburbia79 its not illegal in most states. You have the option to say no.
How do some people sleep at night knowing they f'd up someone else's life? This sense of entitlement has gone above and beyond for some. I hope the landlord catches a break soon!
Those people don't have a heart.
because that specific system where the house resides in has no teeth so people get away with it.
Just like baby boomers, some politicians and CEOs?
@@prashnaveetprasad8339 you can't blame baby boomers lol! Don't say you wouldn't take an opportunity if it were handed to you, they just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
This is strictly the governments fault for allowing this mess to happen. They can't accept half million immigrants for liberal votes when housing was already an issue.
Like babies, they sleep like babies. Unfortunately
When you don’t pay rent for a long time and are ultimately evicted it should literally be next to impossible to rent anywhere else. Maybe then people will be more cautious and stop taking advantage of homeowners. This has gotten completely out of hand. I feel so bad for these owners.
It should be a chargable offense, like theft
@@chrislaverick6413It is theft, noone understands why people are let off easy, yet the laws never seem to change
@@chrislaverick6413 larceny
Nope it’s easy to rent from foreigners who don’t do background checks. I rented from an Indian person who didn’t ask for background check when I had to work in Kingston for a month.
Any tenant who fails to pay their rent and continues to occupy should be immediately evicted and arrested by the police for theft/trespass. It's no different from overstaying in a hotel and not paying.
Um that's a tad excessive. Homes are shelter not a moveable object. There's an opportunity cost for the landlord but it is still not the same.
No difference huh? None? Interesting.
@@ravailsandhu4397 please help me understand the difference. Either way, someone gets something for nothing, and someone else bears the cost without having consented to do so. I fully appreciate the necessity of shelter, but that does not entitle anyone to force others to pay its price. If a landlord could rent a suite for $2,000/month, and you refuse to leave and refuse to pay, you ARE stealing $2,000/month from the landlord. It may not look like that because there is no physical exchange of goods or cash, but that doesn't alter the reality.
@@lousialb8962 EXACTLY!
@@mikeybohunicky2696 The flaw (logical and legal) in the "opportunity cost" argument is the failure to recognize that the only one who gets to decide whether or not to incur an opportunity cost is the one with the opportunity. No one else has any right to impose any decision one way or another (which is what the squatters are doing).
A lot of people seem to think that if a choice in their favour exists, no other choice is legitimate or acceptable. This lack of understanding and respect for others is the source of a great deal of unnecessary conflict and animosity. It's a misappropriation of power/authority (basically, it's behaving either like a spoiled brat or bully).
These horror stories are the reason I prefer to live alone. I’d rather suffer paying bills than have to deal with losers
Yup. 💯
Definitely. You never know how you could be screwed over by one bad tenant, either through delinquencies or damages to property.
Once you learn the law is not in your side you will not help anyone else. Sorry you say
After seeing this, I wouldn't even rent to anyone other then my closest family and friend. Lol not friends. Never know when one of them will be like these guys.
The tenant is gaslighting the reporter that they will pay and leave in February...pure evil.
Seeing the landlord cry breaks my heart. I hope you get this issue sorted soon. And that's how experience turn good people bad.....hard lesson when renting someone.
#Trudeaumustgo
Honestly, if someone is doing in this my house or backyard. I would just go buy a Saw.
@@brar1320 all talk.
Yup - I tried renting, gave a wonderful place, below-market rent - turned into a nightmare for me. Never again.
Absolutely criminal that this is permitted.
It's absolutely criminal for owner thinking they can put the mortgage and property tax and get extra back out of renters that's the whole problem to begin with this is the end result of that so no compassion from Me I've been saveing up for a house since 2008 only for it to be always out of reach but the housing market will crash eventually with these unsustainable prices
@@lesstevens2370 Blaming a victim for their actions. Classic.
So what happens if all landlords stop renting out their properties. Will it help you buy a house? No. Will it help people find a place to live by renting it? No, quite the opposite, in fact. It is supply and demand. If you feel it is unfair for you to pay someone else's mortgage, you are welcome not to. You see, it is your choice after all.
The reason behind why they rented their property out should not be justification for illegal actions towards them.
I wish you to find your own place someday, though.
@@trenskruut42 Hi Trenskruut, I have seen few case on media recently which all of them are the same. A landlord wants to evict a tenant by word of mouth without following the legal procedure! Why do you think they did not follow the right procedure?? It is really appalling when someone does not hide his intention to break the law then thinks he is right?
@@HamidA-to8vy Where did I say that landlords do not break the rules? The response was to the person who literally said that he had no sympathy for the landlord who WAS trying to do it legally, and whose tenants were definitely abusing the system. There are bad landlords and bad tenants. The problem here is that both exploit loopholes in the law, in this case the loophole is caused by the government not being able (not willing?) to resolve these cases in a timely manner.
@@trenskruut42 I didn't mean something against you, thanks for the reply
This is beyond disgusting...why should the landlord....who OWNS the house be suffering like this...the tenant is responsible for paying the rent...it boggles my mind that rent can stop coming in and yet the tenants can continue to stay????
The Landlord and Tenant Board is a joke. You have to take matters in your own hands.
"It's a matter of belief" ...yes belief in a scamming lifestyle
Unfortunate - but true. This has happened to me! Sad part is that the authorities and the public representatives have their eyes and ears closed. Not all tenants are bad tenants, but there is a growing number of such rotten apples that are using the LTB delays to their (unfair) advantage. I believe in law, but "Justice Delayed is Justice Denied". Even if the LTB gets the tenants evicted in a year or so, could LTB ever compensate me, my family, and many more other such families like ours, for all the financial, physical and emotional stress we go through.
I may be right, or wrong. Similarly the tenant might be right, or wrong. I am not asking LTB for favors. I am asking for my right to get a hearing. And why should I, or anybody else for that matter, should suffer for the inefficiency of LTB???
So sorry that you are going through this :(
please name the tenants, also for how long did they sign the rent agreement/lease ?
Please make sure you report them to Equifax, screw up they credit score, I hope they will never get anything to rent once they are gone!
Take a picture of the tenants and shame them in media. I can emphasize with you. Horrible people. I wish you can just barge in to "their" house and kick them out.
how stuipd ,i bet this would not happen if your home country ,one day someone would go crazy and do something bad to their bad tenants ,which is called karma cause landlords also need to paid mortgage and expenses on their home .
There needs a separate department to enforce eviction
It hurts to see the guy in pain and not able to use his own home!!
Unbelievable. People unfortunately were told that they could get away with not paying rent during lockdowns it's become a pandemic of its own
Thanks Trudeau
Not using his name cause it could effect his job,, yet blasting his face all over tv won’t? His bosses aren’t blind. 😅😅😅 make that make sense 😅😅
Indeed!
To make a man cry is truly heartbreaking 😢
It must be stressful and I can understand it. However, I am sure he wasn't crying when he was receiving the rental income and could afford to go out of the country. His mortgage was being subsidized and he took a risk. I have a friend who experienced someone not paying and it has cost them to get a bailiff. However, the years that they received income has been very beneficial to the wealth they have accumulated.
@@cavelleardiel by that ridiculous logic, everyone is then also entitled to steal money from your savings account. All that income you have been receiving from your job has been very beneficial to your wealth; it is therefore justified that someone steal it.
@@jawadshuaib I am not saying it is right what these people are doing to this family. However, this homeowner is relying on this income to supplement his mortgage and lifestyle choices. There are risks to investments and this is one of them. My friend experienced the same situation and they handled it legally and professionally. They will write this loss off of their investment property. It will be happening more and more as housing becomes more expensive and scarce.
@@cavelleardiel that is a fair point. However, the crime here is not greed but rather the failure on the part of the regulators. If we don't raise our voice against injustice, then it will simply continue. Every investment carries risk - but this particular risk can be avoided with laws that are both fair and enforced; this would ultimately benefit the tenants themselves as rents will be reduced only if the investment risk is also reduced.
@@jawadshuaib She is actually right. There are so many risks involved in investments. And this one very timely and relevant. I have heard, watched, and read so many cases like this for the past two years. Ashhole tenants are some of the biggest risks in rental business/investments.
I have a solution. usually the electrical, hot water, water, and heating system is in the basement. shut off all utilities to the main floor. and when they get upset and say they are going to file with the rental tenancy board, laugh in their face as they did you.
@@ms9001 well that would be against the law since they do not own the utilities products in the home and cannot alter them in any way, (without the permission of the property owner) so that action my friend would be a "strait to jail" situation. LMAO.
@@ms9001 since the story clearly states where they live. Your problem is the same if a unicorn was involved. Strawman argument is just that... Nothing.
The LTB will side with the tenants. Regardless of how frustrating it is, you cannot shut off tenant's utilities. Likely they would issue for tenants to pay the backlog of rent but also reprimand the landlord and make them pay fees for not providing a vital service.
@@ms9001 if the tenant changes the house without the owners permission it is property damage and falls under criminal law not civil.
@@ms9001 C.C.C. Mischief
430 (1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully
(a) destroys or damages property;
(b) renders property dangerous, useless, inoperative or ineffective;
(c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property; or
(d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property.
What the heck? It’s not fair to the home owner. Those are bad tenants.
If the tenants hit the 6/49 lottery they will surely start paying rent again.
@@parkerbohnn that event is less likely to happen. It’s extremely rare.
@@parkerbohnn they don’t do any things for themselves, you need to buy lottery also for them😀
THIS IS INSANE, WHERE'S THE OWNER'S RIGHTS. PLEASE HELP.
I was a victim as well. My tenant refused to rent and getting them evicted was so difficult. After we won the case, they still will not move. We eventually had to call a baliff “and” had to hire people to move their stuff out. Ot was a long dragged out process which was extremely expensive. The laws are not out to protect home owners. We can’t go to out bank and say sorry my tenants won’t pay so can we get an extension on our mortgage???? The banks will laugh in our face!!! There are many struggles and sacrifices made to be a home owner that, unfortunately, people don’t talk about.
May I ask if the LTB requires the tenants to pay all the overdue rent and any other costs associated with them not moving out (for example, the cost for you to stay at an Airbnb or hotel in the meantime, costs to move them out, lawyers, etc) and if they still don't pay, what happens then? Please share as much info as you are comfortable to. TIA
My tenant was a doctor. I screened their income and credit worthiness etc. They took 12 months to leave and eventually they claimed that they suffered damage. Screening tenants can only do so much even if they make $150,000 a year, they might still end up in LTB. Landlords have no protection from my own experience !
@@LinhNguyen-gr2wb The LTB ask the tenant to pay the rent owing not the legal cost. The tenant shows they have elderly or kids dependent on them and can’t pay. LTB tells landlord that evicted tenant cannot pay and best of luck for next tenant.
Homeowners have no protection at all. It is completely favoured towards the tenants. LTB should be scrapped and homeowners should be allowed to evict whoever they want.
This is what happens when you have a flawed system with no mechanisms of deterrent in place, either in the form of criminal charges, judicial penalties, or guaranteed prison sentences, for this kind of willful abuse on the part of corrupt tenants.
Unless and until federal legislation is introduced that would see tenants face the threat of real legal consequences for this kind of rent-free "squatting", this kind of abuse will only continue.
I don't think it is Federal legislation that is needed, the problem is probably more Provincially and Municipally. Each Province and Municipality has a different need in terms of Rental space. However 4 - 8 months of non payment of rent is ridicules to kick out anyone. I would say if it is a simple non payment issue then the tenant should be removed at longest 30 days. Even then that is a bit much.
This is precisely why I rent my properties on Airbnb. There’s no way I’m relinquishing my rights to my own freaking home
@@sean4060 I’m curious how renting on AirBnB protects you against a squatters? That makes no sense?
@@Lillyofthevalley222
I’ll explain. Short term tenants fall under inkeepers act. This act allows me to legally kick out any guest for any reason.
Traditional long term tenants fall under the landlord and tenant act which essentially favours the tenant since you need to file paperwork and wait for a hearing to evict. This process overwhelming favours scumbag tenants.
You learned something new today
@@archforge 4-8 months? Try 8-12 in Ottawa.
As a human being and tenant I kind of feel disgusted. Some people always misuse the loopholes of the systems.
This is disgusting! Send out a renovation notice for 2 weeks. Then start removing the windows. Make it uncomfortable for the tenants.
Amazing how these people get places to rent. I've been denied 50 times in 2 years because I'm with a PTSD service dog. No bark, not dirty, super clean, I'm a veteran, and I actually invest time and money into my places I live because I care. Never miss a rent payment in 30 years. lol. We need to fix our broken society before it gets worse.
Isn't that discrimination? Contact a tv network and tell your story. Maybe
Govt entities can get involved.
If you are trying to rent in Ontario, they cannot deny you for a service dog or even just a pet. You don't have to mention the dog whatsoever, and after you move they can't make you get rid of your dog.
Most won't even rent out to people with kids..
There is much more then discrimination happening in this country
Fair housing laws do not allow landlords to discriminate against you because of a service dog (At least here in Texas) . I have rentals in Houston if you need a place. Good luck
I never tell them that I have a pet. Don’t disclose it. They see you with one once your in, that’s not your problem. Legally they can’t ask you this question anyways, so don’t tell them what they shouldn’t be asking you.
There’s only 1 way out of these situations. Initiate renovations, with all necessary notice, and with and a suggestion to leave site for comfort purposes. They wont comply. Then on construction day, immediately remove all the doors and windows, and claim a mixup on delivery, delaying re install. Then claim damaged on delivery. Then claim missing items that differ from packing slips. Then claim completely wrong window sizes. Then claim new material back order problems. This can go on for weeks. No one will stay. Unfortunately, you’ve had to incur damages and monetary loss. Possibly a bit more to get them out. But they will leave.
Most jurisdictions prevent that type of practice of “constructive eviction” without the courts permission. Although clever advice, in certain if not most localities in america, whoever does that would potentially face charges. I would imagine the same in Canada
@@Waltaere but this is canada, and "renovictions" are commonplace
This is why I, my elderly Aunt, my elderly mother and my brother all stopped renting rooms or houses -- we all were 'screwed over' by deadbeat tenants. Then people complain there aren't enough rental properties available. Landlords have bills to pay but the laws tilt way, way too far in the deadbeats favor.
You'll be paying the empty homes tax.
@@parkerbohnn So? I would rather pay 2-3k a year for property tax than to have free-loaders in my house who can potential ruin my property
Landlording isn't a profession. Get a real job instead of sponging off the labor of others. And before you say I must be a deadbeat tenant, I own my house.
@@spechund7109 Prove it.
@@zabedakbar prove what? The very fact that you're defensive is proof 😂
i know a couple people this happened to and they eventually just sold the house. How are the home owners suppose to pay the electricity and water for both themselves and the tenants if they don't pay their share. My uncle had to unfortunately sell his properties just so he can be rid of the problem. These tenants are shameless and should be kicked out. This system is awful and the government needs to be held accountable, this cannot continue to go on.
I really don’t understand how this is a thing. If a tenant isn’t paying rent for months, why can’t you get a couple of cops to show up and evict them?? I’m so confused 🤯 and it’s a really bad look for the provincial government
It's Canada! Paradise for squatters and free loaders!
A pro tenant system.
And you’re surprised that this is a very bad look for our government?? I mean seriously?? 😮 They don’t do ANYTHING right!
It is not your own country. It is Canada
I live in Canada and it baffles me too. One can call the cops for just trespassing but not this??
We deal with the same issue here in the US! Insane how criminals get away with so much but a hardworking family man get treated this badly!
You need to hire a couple big boys with baseball bats to do same day evictions.
I’ve rented 2 of my properties with 3 tenants in total
All with legal contract and credit check background check and reference check
They all pay on time. So for past several years no issues
I feel for people with bad Tenants
Please please do your due diligence when choosing tenants 😊
You always hear about bad tenants but not often about good tenants. Lots of people just want a good home. These tenants probably can't move because no one wants them.
@@westbccoast of course nobody wants them, they DONT pay.
@@westbccoast that doesn’t mean they can leech off someone’s property.
I hope they pay at least. The landlord is clearly struggling.
Shouldn’t have rented out short term
I have 2 myself, student rentals though. I can't express this enough. Do your due diligence. Ive had amazing tenant's over the years. The secret is to treat them like family when they ask for assistance. Always be proactive with the property. (Pay the money for landscaping and snow removal) it's just a small amount and it goes a long way. Leave the odd $2 - $3 garbage tag. Trust me, it's the little things
He had no choice everyone is either Pakistani or a Punjab in Brampton.
What a monster lives in your house, man! I am really sorry for you!
Tenants are taking advantage of the long waits lists for a hearings at the Ontario Landlord Tenant Board (9-22 months in Ottawa). Tenants not paying rent all this time because they know nothing landlord can do to evict them but wait 9-12 months for a hearing at the Landlord/Tenant Board. Ppl that own the property having to let ppl live in their own home rent free for for all that time is insane & criminal. Tenants that receive social assistance are collecting shelter costs from government assistance while not paying any rent. So it's their landlords (often small landlords) footing the bill in the tens of thousands and all tax payers footing the bill for the shelter portion they collect from social assistance that the delinquent tenants are just pocketing. People are going to start taking matters into their own hands cuz they can't wait a year for a eviction hearing hearing.
oh yes, i recommend shutting off the water. I don't care if it's not legal.
At a certain point you gotta round up your buddies and strong arm them out of there lol
Megadeath on loud speakers, Noriega style.
You don't pay you don't stay. Eviction should be instant after 2 months of none payment.
The more they document this and post videos and articles on it, people repost on social media, there will be more and more of these "professional tenants" that know they can totally take advantage of landlords and have provincial regulations/bylaws and a whole tenancy board protecting and encouraging this behaviour. Amazing isn't it!
Agreed, but on the other hand, you cannot fix something that is not drawing enough public attention. All dirty playing parties involved in this business are already pretty aware of it, so it will keep happening regardless.
It's usually landlords that take advantage of the tenants tho tenants taking advantage of landlords is fewer and far in between
@@CrooKdLetterJ there just needs better laws in place for both sides. If I don't pay my mortgage, I get foreclosed. If a tenant doesn't pay, then you have provincial regulations and a tenancy board backing up a tenant. My tenant is behind $8500 and counting while I wait to hear from the tenancy board. I gave her a lot of compassion as she has two kids, didn't want to kid them out to the street initially, worked out a plan, and ultimately, she gives me back the middle finger back. On my rentals, I never increase rent, I allow pets but I think I'm done. It's almost criminal how tenants treat me back, I wish I can send you photos. I wanted to be a fair landlord from day 1, but at this point, I'm done. I'm a nobody, I'm one small landlord that is going to be out of the market and that'll give room for a bad one to enter. And no, we barely get cashflow, sometimes rent doesn't even cover the mortgage. But anyway, be nice if everyone treated everyone with the respect they deserve
if someone doesn't pay the rent, it should be considered transpass and should be treated as such. As they transpass on someone's private property without agreement from the owner. Maybe it's time for people to group together and start a class action against the government for the major delay and their loss during that period of time. Especially when the government already announced they will handled rent increase cases first to favor major corporations landlords. Private citizens are getting ignored by the government if no action is taken...
What's transpass?
@@Ynalaw I think they mean tresspass?
I would have gone to jail. There's no way I would tolerate this.
LTB and Ontario should be sued, this is happening because of LTB and Ontario government’s law;
Yikes.. people like that make it difficult for other renters. Home Owners now call up your place of employment to ask if you’ll still have a job in 6 months! And it’s because of awful tenants like these.
Calling up the place of employment for a possible client could also be a violation of human right.
@@lsophial I don’t think it violates a law because I don’t think there’s a law around it. It’s now, unfortunately, a common practice in Toronto.
@@stonefacedmedusa5542 they actually legally can't do that tho lol
It's heartbreaking and tragic. So many families are working hard and suffering. Their lives and their children's formative years turning into stressful years. And why because they worked hard, owned house, abided laws to have a safe life and home for their kids and themselves, only to fall trap into the injustice of the system. It's really time for change of such laws and government need to take action to compensate for the loss of their money, time , and mental torture.
I sincerely hope that the tenant is served cold and cruel divine justice
I am so sorry that this is Happening to you I had Squatters destroy my house my life savings every hing I worked for sending prayers it took me 14mths to get them out
That's complicated
At least did the pay you?
@@loukmanelmi2733 key word is "squatters", I don't think they paid.
A Friend of mine went 11 months without rent payment in Cambridge Ontario. He ended up selling the house and will NEVER be a landlord again.
If it was one of the landlords and tenants board people I'm sure it would be a different outcome. Absolutely despicable.
Now THIS is the type of thing that makes me never want to be a landlord……👎🏻👎🏻
These people need to be exposed for the public to see. Our laws/rules need to change ASAP.
This is partially a result of Canada's housing crisis. The government says there's a housing shortage but is still targeting record high immigration. Expect more of these problems.
I have a great tenant. I am fortunate. Some of my friends, no so much. The Tenancy Branch in BC is one sided. Disgusting what goes on. And they wonder why there are less rental properties.
There should be some kind of registry for people who were evicted due to nonpayment of rent so prospective landlords won't rent to them. Scammers should be exposed. They should only be removed from the list after they have paid money owed in full.
They were trusted to enter and then scammed. It seems the local authority would physically remove them from the house but it doesn't always happen as that, that easy. It should be attempted, and if it didn't occur, there might be some movers, a moving company that comes in, loads up the stuff and takes it to a storage unit or to a friend of theirs and drops it off there, a change of locks and an advance notification to them before they get to the house while they are at work or elsewhere that they need to go to their friends house, to get their belongings as they have been moved and no longer reside there. It is possible to work through it without being rude or inappropriate when it is. If it isn't, that's criminal. Hopefully it works out, the family can have a happy home. 🏠
@@christinalynn8143 isn't that burglary ? Even if the house is rented as an owner you can't barge in breaking the locks. It can filed as felony
@@dumpsterfire295 If you are in a rental agreement with another individual the proper process should be followed to break the agreement if it is broken or the terms are violated. If there is sufficient notice given, it is clear to the point of obvious, there are things that can be done without legal consequence. It would seem as though the best thing to do is to have the tenant move their own belongings yet that is not always possible. If the landlord moved their stuff to the basement or moved it to their friends house they might try to argue burglary but they are not standing on secure foundation, as they haven't paid the rent, so much so, the camera crew evidence supports the delinquency. It would seem any court, will understand. Typically the authority will allow an eviction, but it's not always so easy to say that or to have it happen.
@@dumpsterfire295 It is probably best if they apply to the court for eviction and receive service from the authority as in that someone is physically there to see to it, the individuals move out and are gone before they leave. Thereby it is secure for everyone involved. It is a process though and it can be frustrating, from what I've heard in other experiences.
There is a registry it’s call Openroom
I would never rent my home again. I almost got into the same situation, but luckily they left!
This is Canada. Be it Healthcare, education, quality of life, taxes…everything will downgrade your life. Doesn’t feels like we live in a developed nation anymore.
This is freaking disgusting how some tenants take advantage of the system. Is authority even care to act or continue turning blind eye on such issues. This is not the only case, there are 1000s others!
Not to sound cynical or too inhuman here, but if there are such long backlogs at the landlord and tenant board, I think it’s justified that small landlords take the law into their own hands in some cases. Hire some security, kick the tenants out, and tell them to apply to the board to have their case heard. Knowing how long it will take to have their case heard, I’m sure that some of these problem tenants would move on. At any rate, stories like these are not going to help the rental supply.
Couldn't agree More.
One day a landlord will snap.
I wonder if we should start adding a clause to enter our own property once a tenant fails to pay rent
Show up with some bodyguards, pit bulls, and a locksmith to change the locks. Also, shut the electricity and water off.
Hire someone to watch the place and when the deadbeat tenant and family go out of the house, immediately haul their stuff away and change all the locks. Then hire a crew to stage the house to look like you're renovating and when the deadbeat tenant returns and calls the cops, play dumb and act like you don't know them. Cops will tell said deadbeat tenant it's a civil matter and file a complaint with the court. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Physically removing them, putting their stuff on the edge of the road, change the locks would be a great idea :+) Maybe doing a faceplant into a snowbank from the top stair will get the point across to these scammers.
This people are so ridiculous. How can they sleep at night after hurting others and not paying rent. Owner should post his story everywhere and their pictures as well. So, next time no one will give them their house for rent. 😡
I keep seeing this all over Toronto. The system does nothing apparently. If I owned a home and my renters became delinquent they'd be getting a visit from me and I would yell to my friend to "pop the trunk"!
eventually what you say it will happen and then they will change the law
I used to have something called an AR that fixed tenant issues very quickly. Just knowing it was in the truck solved one issue.
You'd take cash for rent and never declare it and when it came time to evict the renters you couldn't because they'd snitch to Revenue Canada on you. I know you inside-out Einstein.
Eventually, that's what is going to happen. If the laws do not actually solve problems, people will find other methods to solve such disputes.
This should be a criminal law matter, it's no different than stealing
Is there an insurance product that will protect landlords in this situation? Can the renter be required to purchase an insurance contract up front, payable to the landlord in the event of default? That shifts the financial risk to an insurance company whose entire purpose is to manage that risk.
I'm a landlord and I always use the official Ontario contract, I make sure our leases are 100% legal. There is a section near the end where it gives the tenant an option to opt in or out for standard home insurance, but there's no insurance on the contract related to defaulting payments. I'm not even sure who would offer that kid of service, maybe that should be looked into?!
There are! Look at companies like The Guarantors
@@JCooK2007 some insurance companies have default rent payment combined on their personal insurance products. So if someone gets sick or looses their job, there is $$ to help them pay rent. But most people who are responsible enough to pay for personal life and critical illness insurance, get their money right in the first place.
😮 I had no idea you could get away with this!!! That’s crazy. I think I’d be shitting bricks if I was in their shoes and couldn’t afford my next months rent!!! (Just one months rent and here they are WAY behind!). I’d be terrified of just getting an eviction notice and then thinking OMG I’m going to be out in the streets! 🤯😳 These people seem to KNOW just what they’re doing!!! I think these kinds of people should be fined or jailed. It’s like stealing! It is stealing. 💯🙌
I think the tenants are "professionals" at it at this point. Actions like this can absolutely devastate the tenant's credit score.
Don't do this unless you don't plan on staying in Canada long term.
@@ktefccre I said the same in another comment. They have to be. One tenant did it to 3 diff owners across Canada! And the more these get ‘advertised’ per se … more people will know they can get away with it. Imo. At least till LTB catches up on backlogs.
My heart goes out to him and his family. Sending love and positive vibes to anyone and everyone in this situation ❤
What a nightmare for the owner and his family. Those parasites are deplorable, too bad they can't be fumigated out of there!
At what point do people take the law into their own hands?
If this was Alberta the same would happen
Show the “renters” faces and names!
It's important to do a through background check before renting out your rental property or sublease your home to anybody. While it's sad to see this homeowner going through the hoops to get his non-paying tenant evicted, the story doesn't tell us if he did a background check (credit/eviction/criminal) on the non-paying tenant. The laws should change in favor of the homeowner if the tenant illegally lives in the rental property or subleased property.
Checks aren't foolproof...people forget documents
A "good" tenant, especially if that tenant is experienced and rents for most of his/her life, will know how the system works and be able to exploit it. They can turn into a bad tenant real quick. And references can be faked.
It's best just to hold onto your houses and keep them empty. Those tenants can deal with the high rents and lack of available housing. 🤷♂️
Tenants lie. Their references lie!!!
@@jonathanhou8712 Agreed excepting keeping the rental property from being let out. In the US, you need a tenant with good credit score of 625 and above with monthly income three times the monthly rent, and no criminal, bankruptcy, and eviction records. The background report will help make in decision-making. You can also check with the previous landlord of the prospective tenant to see how he behaved with them from the standpoint of maintenance requests, etc.
This is such a sad state of affairs...
It's really sad to see. In my country, some landlords take laws into their hands by removing parts of the roof to force the tenants out.
I hope Mr. Khan take your idea and remove the roof.
System has been rotten
baffles me how many people side with tenants who refuse to pay their rent. how is it any different then stealing? if you go buy a new car and decide 6 months into a 5 year car loan your just gonna stop paying it, you can be sure the tow company will show up and take it away from you. how do people think you can stop paying your agreed and signed in contract rent and just stay there for nothing. if i stop paying my mortgage they will foreclose the home am i right? or have i been missing something all my life, wish i knew i could refuse to pay my bills years ago while still keeping all of my stuff with no consequences ide probably have joined in. the system has failed and once the tenant stops paying it should no longer be a civil manor and become a criminal manor where the police can force them out, not wait nearly a year for some tribunal board to do it while your stuck living in your car. It's a miracle nobody has been very seriously injured or worst trying to get away with this stuff i can't imagine the rage these people must feel losing everything you worked for while some stranger takes advantage of you.
It happen to a home owner in lawless michigan this year too, who rented out a house on a lake just for the summer to some crazy folks who stopped paying rent.. 5 times he had to go to court to get them out 😯
"Lawless" 🙄
What the hell is going on in Ontario?? These people are trespassing - why can’t the police remove them?
they have the legal right to remain in thier dwellings untill the court says they cant . cops dont get involved in housing matters they arent trepassing its thier property rent being paid or not they are on the lease !!! give your head a shake lol
@@marcii3130 if they’re in breach of the lease agreement (ie non-payment) then they’re not “on the lease” because the lease is then void. At least, that’s how the law works in other provinces.
Homelessness will rise all over Canada. As home owners will be turning away anyone who asks to rent from them
Disgusting that these type of ppl can abuse someone like this. They should be jailed . There was no contract?
There should be a law that states if you reach X months in arrears on your rent then it’s an automatic eviction. Not that even that will do anything; a neighbour was evicted for harassing his landlord and other tenants, being violent, threatening other tenants etc. but he hasn’t left the building almost 5 months later STILL because the cops won’t enforce the eviction.
Cops can't inforce civil stuff, this kind of things or family matter come under civil. This person can use paid Sheriff to put these people out and their stuff on the street and when violence get involved police will, sheriff are special constable and sworn officers of the court
So heartbreaking and infuriating all at once! What a horrible injustice.
This happened to my friend here in Abbotsford BC. Tenant didn’t pay rent for 5 months knowing eviction notice will take time. Then tenant suddenly decided to leave and with no known address, notice to recover money is hard to serve.
And then ppl wonder why it’s difficult to find place on rent. Because of this kind of behaviour.
How come a bank can evict a person from their home if they don't pay 3 months of their mortgage, but this is allowed to happen?
I understand you need to protect tenants from unscrupulous landlords, but now the tenants are taking advantage of the system.
It happens the tenants are the ones screwed over the most. Like I have been over and over and over by landlords.
The bank can do that cause you are technically owning the home on borrowed money. Anytime you take a mortgage it's a loan from the bank and that is why they assess your homes value, in case they need to foreclose you and resale. It's harder as a landlord because the tenant isn't really borrowing money from you. The landlord is the one holding the liability (which is a mortgage).
@@sophien5416 You missed the question. How can banks evict a landlord for non payment of mortgage but a landlord cannot evict a tenant in the same manner for not paying rent.
When the people leave the house, change the locks, and put all their stuff on the curb. Also, shut off the water, and electricity for the upstairs before they leave.
also against the law! police matter at that point.
@@Pheonix384 yes but he'll only have to pay less than they already owe. Lesser of two evils. Just like how our libs get in. Lesser of evils heh.
the tenants will call the cops and the landlords will rightfully be dinged a bunch of charges
@@Sam19509 well the money's gotta come from somewhere so if they're not paying rent. You'd think the money comes from the sky to pay the bills?
Not legal.
Is the government going to do anything about this nonsense?!! And the most scary's things that it becomes so common here!
If they want free rent, they can sleep in a jail cell.
These stories make me so upset. I'm all for protections for tenants from bad landlords but this is just not fair... there has to be balance in this. I'm no expert and do not know the solution but these stories are heart breaking.
Yeah this is terrible and terrible our legal system allows it. Scumbag tenants need to be throw out like these guys
Its systemic. They are letting homeowners get abused.
@@basicinfo2022
In the name of abolishing private property.
The Landlord Tenant board is broken, should file a class action lawsuit against them causing hardship both mentally and financially to their clients.
Cut off the utilities! Start renovations. Change the LOCKS.! Put EVERYTHING INTO A Locked STORAGE CONTAINER. ( if they want their possessions, you have leverage to negotiate. ) & They won't get anything out of sueing you. Fight fire with fire! The law is not protecting people anymore.
They can’t, sadly it’s against the law. Especially when you are taking the tenant to court, the tenant will just counter-sue you. It defeats the purpose of suing.
@@pappylo yes. But what they are doing is against the law too. Better to chance it. Plus hope the tenants will not spend their own money on taking it to court, because ultimately, they can't win.
This is disgusting
Horrible!
They can't call the cops and kick em out of their property?
based on what? When LTB has a resolution, you can call cops
@@khrapov it's his property and tenants occupied it without paying rent. On moral and theft ground I think? Or occupying someone else's property?
@@kushanjoshi1222 imagine police will come and the tenants say: "no, we pay everything in time, and the landlord lies because he doesn't like us". What will police do?
It's not their job to understand who is right or who is wrong. Unless there is a decision from LTD, they will not do anything
More people, more problems. As an old immigrant of Indian origin. I will be voting conservative next election.
That's federal law you speak of, this is provincial matter and it's already conservative...so that doesn't fix anything
That’s horrible.
Who protects these parasites ? why isn't the system for immediate eviction of anyone who doesn't pay rent ?
I would have those tenants out in 1 day no problem . Someone should help this guy get these fools out by force .
Man I would just wait until they are sound asleep at night, pick up those tenants and throw them outside & never let them back in ^^
Thank you for your story. We have had the same problem. A very bad tenant that hasn’t paid rent since February even after the lease expired he stayed squatting in my house and I had no legal support to get him out. The system is horribly broken.
How is this not theft? It blows my mind that this is permitted in an industrialized country like Canada. Seriously, people like this or parasites, they need to be held accountable 😔
This is why rental properties as a whole a sort of dumb. That being said, unless something is done about this issue, organized crime will try to fill that void.
There should be an automatic - If you don't pay full rent for 2 or 3 months in a row - you're out.
You mean like almost every other province? Ontario is a hole.
This is disgusting. Should not be allowed to happen.
It happened to us during pandemic.. the tenant lived free from January 2020 until she got evicted in May 2021.. it took us 6 months to get court date.. and we can’t collect the payment, the house was left broken, filthy and full of junks..
the law is definitely broken…
I had this happen
I moved in with the tenents
Amazing they were gone in a few weeks
This is precisely why I rent my properties on Airbnb. There’s no way I’m relinquishing my rights to my own freaking home
But this is part of the problem and is why renting in Canada is so precarious and expensive. These types of tenants are symptoms of a much greater problem.
@@jasonlahey1550
Be that as it may, I have to protect my interests right ? Most people including myself don’t get a free pass in life. Everyone needs to pay their bills
@@sean4060 Okay… so you rent out AirBnB for a week. You come to find those tenant flat out refuse to leave. What are your legal options? AirBnB’s? You’re in the same boat.
@@sean4060 there are more ways to make money than Airbnb and real estate. Airbnb has caused more harm to local regions because of poor regulations and enforcement. Your whole investment is based on this. What happens if those regulations change?
@@troyjollimore4100
Refusal to leave almost never happens. It’s incredibly rare. If it happens, I’ll call the police and have them remove them. At that point , they are trespassing
Total eviction time from start to finish is about 1 month which includes the 10 day notice to quit here in northeastern Pennsylvania, Philadelphia can take 3 months or more, it depends on your location in Pennsylvania
Homes are like free in states like that in America why don't they just buy them cash and never rent?