Club Kid Panel w/ James St. James, Milk and Boulet Brothers at RuPaul's DragCon 2015

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    James St. James, Milk and the Boulet Brothers discuss the club kid evolution starting with the 1960s and the renaissance in the 80s that has shaped the society as we know it today.
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Komentáře • 204

  • @SeanStrife
    @SeanStrife Před 9 lety +239

    I can honestly say I could sit there and hear about the history and influences of the Club Kids all day. It's such a fascinating era and had such rich, colorful characters.

  • @Alfiewow
    @Alfiewow Před 9 lety +259

    James is a fucking encyclopedia it's amazing

    • @shannonfrattura2029
      @shannonfrattura2029 Před 3 lety +2

      I believe it was in gay,drag culture that older men traditionally used spoken history to teach younger people coming up and out.

  • @micmic11mn
    @micmic11mn Před 9 lety +338

    Vivacious would've been perfect for this panel

    • @technicolor101
      @technicolor101 Před 9 lety +7

      Oh my gawdddd yes!!!!!

    • @sandrsofias
      @sandrsofias Před 9 lety +39

      micmic11mn yes. I think they added Milk to get someone and to fill the panel, but she doesn't seem to have the knowledge and experience the others did. Vivacius (and Ornacia) would have been an interesting mix.

    • @kevinwilliam1673
      @kevinwilliam1673 Před 9 lety +45

      Lorem Ipsum You're correct, Milk doesn't have the same level of knowledge that the others have on this particular panel. Nor should she, she is half their age. However, she is someone who reflects the same openness and free spirited mindset, along with a sense of cooky and rebellious artistry that resembles those "club kids" that have come before her. That is why she was selected for this particular panel.

    • @micmic11mn
      @micmic11mn Před 9 lety +10

      Lorem Ipsum I would've loved to see Ornacia

    • @kayleecromling7132
      @kayleecromling7132 Před 7 lety +14

      i've always felt milk was more of a club kid anyway rather than a drag queen. she's fab either way and i love her aesthetic and creativity. and, yea, to be fair she is much younger than james and a fair bit younger than the boulet bros. part of her problem is that she knows without knowing that she knows. it would take her no time at all to do a little background research to really round her out and bring her knowledge to the surface.

  • @Tefixitafuckme
    @Tefixitafuckme Před 7 lety +26

    James is so adorable, like the grandpa/grandma you want to listen all day long while eating cookies

  • @Enoriath
    @Enoriath Před 9 lety +71

    James need to have a second web series where he just talks about this stuff!

  • @gorrif
    @gorrif Před 9 lety +83

    For anyone curious, The Queen documentary is on CZcams, just search 'The Queen (1968)'.

    • @NPC19191
      @NPC19191 Před 9 lety

      Thanks

    • @violinistx100
      @violinistx100 Před 9 lety +14

      I instantly switched videos and did not regret it. All baby queens need to see it. No just for the drag but for when the queens talk about how being gay affected their family life, being in the draft, etc. One can learn so much from older queens. And realize how much privilege we have now compared to what they went through 40, 50 years ago

    • @alannahllama
      @alannahllama Před 7 lety

      gorrif thank you :)

  • @jonathanliriano1581
    @jonathanliriano1581 Před 9 lety +91

    Milk is one of my favorite queens, she's grown so much since her season

  • @ortem000
    @ortem000 Před 9 lety +68

    I love learning about LGBT history and I love SMART GAYS!!!!! It is fun to be silly and kooky and shady etc. etc. etc. and I love that about our culture. But it is so refreshing to witness this conversation. More please!!!!!

  • @sacredsiren
    @sacredsiren Před 9 lety +99

    Agh, I remember James St. James from when I worked at Limelight way back in the day when I was way too young to be there. Vivacious should have been on this panel for sure. Milk is fabulous, but too young to remember anything they are talking about lol.

  • @AleciaFluffyPresents
    @AleciaFluffyPresents Před 9 lety +31

    Poor Milk... She was just there looking at this panel of old-school-drag scholars being like "Ah. There's a joke here. There, I said it".
    But she did through out a good discussion topic about how nothing is new... which quickly turned to the rest of the panel educating the children (me included) in everything that's old that we think is new.

    • @jhubeJELLO
      @jhubeJELLO Před 8 lety +9

      +Alecia Fluffy Presents - I thought it was great she was there because she's meant to be that other perspective to the club scene because she is from the newer generation. I wished she asked more questions

  • @davidhopper1663
    @davidhopper1663 Před 9 lety +13

    The documentary they refer to in the beginning of the discussion "The Queen" (1968) is on CZcams. It really is a wonderful piece of our history. Truly remarkable.

  • @drinkallthesunshine
    @drinkallthesunshine Před 8 lety +66

    I love how there's like a baby whining in the background. Like who brings a baby to drag con haha

  • @tallulahbeaverhausen4382
    @tallulahbeaverhausen4382 Před 9 lety +59

    Great conference (too bad it was edited and so short) and James is incredibly charismatic - you can put him in a room full of freaks and queens, my eyes (and ears) will constantly go to him. Such a presence, such a storyteller, such a captivating man.
    Thank you for this video, for educating us and broaching so many topics.

    • @ahamadrafrafi5456
      @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

      ماما اليوم الأحد لا تعمل الإدارات و ملف التبني لم يحضر حتى الآن اذا لن تأتيني اليوم للمنزل سأصبر يا ماما حتى الغد و حتى عيد كيلاد فراس لأكون عند العهد الذي وعدتك به❤

    • @ahamadrafrafi5456
      @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

      ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥ماما❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

    • @ahamadrafrafi5456
      @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

      ماما😛

    • @ahamadrafrafi5456
      @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

      3366
      ان تستطع ماما شراء منزل في تونس عندي منزل علينا فقط تأثيثه معا و فراس يعجبه و ننطلق منه في استرجاع أملاك دراڤولا❤

    • @ahamadrafrafi5456
      @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

      ماما حمودة و فراس يلعبون في الفري فاير و انا معكم❤

  • @BrokamaGay
    @BrokamaGay Před 7 lety +23

    People do realize that Lady Gaga has a team of fashion designers that create her looks and that each one is calculated, right? I'm sure they pull from many sources, including club kids, Leigh Bowery, etc.

  • @Yuyu99000
    @Yuyu99000 Před 9 lety +12

    I could listen to the Boulet Brothers aaaaaall day

  • @andrewc.2952
    @andrewc.2952 Před 7 lety +9

    If you want to hear more of that old queen accent from New York, go look up Match Game 73-79 and listen to Charles Nelson Reilly on there who was a gay man, a broadway actor, who was very "out" for the time when Match Game was on the air. But he's so hilarious and now I know that he is speaking in that old accent. I think it's so great.

  • @fuckyou1458
    @fuckyou1458 Před 9 lety +47

    Nothing quite like history from the horses mouth! Loved this!
    I would love it if ***** did a series called 'Herstory' or something where it literally is videos letting us younger LGBT know our history of what came before us, Icons/Movements/Influential people/Moments what changed things forever etc etc... The internet is wonderful for finding stuff and I've came across a few good books- but I feel personally the 'meaty' content really isn't there, unless something was really commercialized it seems to have fallen under the radar. It really would be a shame for all this to just be lost in the past.

    • @shannonfrattura2029
      @shannonfrattura2029 Před 3 lety +1

      Agree totally but James is teaching history AND how to pass it down,traditional Queen,,,,,love the aging queens etc for this reason too!

    • @inaynaycoleman
      @inaynaycoleman Před 2 lety +1

      Jaymes Mansfield does this series!

  • @legrovar
    @legrovar Před 9 lety +5

    I am a baby and I can honestly say I am so thankful for this video. I've learnt so much about drag history in just 35 minutes.

  • @HerraTulitikku
    @HerraTulitikku Před 9 lety +21

    From all the DragCon Videos this is the most interesting, because it's the first time that I have the feeling that they have something to say. The rest is only entertaining without meaning.

  • @framdy88
    @framdy88 Před 7 lety +46

    Where Is Vivicous she should be there I wanna hear her story and her Herstory

  • @stevenangopera
    @stevenangopera Před 9 lety +18

    Why wasn't Vivacious part of this panel? She would have had so much to share!

    • @asantacruz71
      @asantacruz71 Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe Vivacious was supposed to be there and couldn't join and that's why they pulled Milk in last minute. We'll never know.

  • @MiSSJUiCEBOXXLiVE
    @MiSSJUiCEBOXXLiVE Před 6 lety +4

    I couldn't picture being with someone 20yrs and doing drag with them..they're literally around each other 24/7. They are def very unique and seem perfect for each other tho..so jealous😩😘.

  • @Hi-to-ri
    @Hi-to-ri Před 9 lety +11

    I really enjoyed that , please mama RU gather old school queens together and make a series for us :)

  • @melissacamarillo4767
    @melissacamarillo4767 Před 4 lety +2

    I could listen to the boulet brothers all day. They are so cool and interesting

  • @thehausbunny
    @thehausbunny Před 9 lety +8

    can we talk about one of the boulet brothers not even fanning himself just fanning the god damn mic and making that horrible sound... girl.

  • @CastellonZamora
    @CastellonZamora Před 9 lety +18

    brb *pauses video to watch The Queen*

  • @CandySphynx
    @CandySphynx Před 9 lety +2

    I just want to meet James and sit in a room doing his makeup while he talks to me for 5 days in a row about his experiences and drag history. What a wonderful panel.

  • @liondog303
    @liondog303 Před 9 lety +5

    I want James' jacket print as my kitchen wallpaper.... 😆

  • @Stormith
    @Stormith Před 9 lety +7

    Milk looks like she's strong as hell now, that crossfit is working!!

  • @jjmm9066
    @jjmm9066 Před 7 lety +1

    So reverential, respectful, articulate and informed.

  • @maleekmonroe1
    @maleekmonroe1 Před 9 lety +2

    I would love to just sit and listen to James tell me stories from his past like for always.

  • @alicelopez130
    @alicelopez130 Před 9 lety +2

    I love history and drag, so this was AWESOME! Thank you so much!!

  • @danielectrico12
    @danielectrico12 Před 9 lety +3

    I love James, HE KNOWS SO MANY THINGS!
    Thanks for educate me

  • @madisont.8293
    @madisont.8293 Před 9 lety +40

    C'mon muscle!

  • @tiffanyc9730
    @tiffanyc9730 Před 9 lety +2

    I wish the camera person had shown all of the pictures that James St. James displayed.

  • @shannonbrister743
    @shannonbrister743 Před 6 lety +1

    What James says at 9:30 hits home for me so hard ❤ I'm from Saginaw Michigan and I wrote him on Twitter and he told me one day wed have lunch and laugh about the hell that it is and I hold that so near and dear to my heart.

  • @EdgarVenomous
    @EdgarVenomous Před 9 lety +5

    I have a shit ton of Waltpaper's pictures, he was sooooooooo fucking amazing and inspiring, I absolutely love him.
    ...and have you seen him now¡!? he's a fucking daddy...

    • @axcruz987
      @axcruz987 Před 6 lety

      EdgarVenomous nunca espere encontrar un comentario tuyo aquí. Jajaja

  • @jesykahashope
    @jesykahashope Před 7 lety +1

    This is so fascinating! I went to school for fashion design and this would have been a great class

  • @chooselife5863
    @chooselife5863 Před 7 lety +1

    Wow that guy with the flower jacket is really interesting to listen to, he's like a book that knows everything. Cool guy. Cool video too thanks!

  • @timothybrown3698
    @timothybrown3698 Před 8 lety +4

    OMFG IM LITERALLY GOOGLING RYAN BURKE FIVE SECONDS BEFORE HE SAID THAT

    • @Tefixitafuckme
      @Tefixitafuckme Před 7 lety

      Timothy Brown sorry... do you know the name of the one at 17:37? The one that died 20 years ago and James still misses?

    • @timothybrown3698
      @timothybrown3698 Před 7 lety +1

      I think its leigh bowry

    • @Tefixitafuckme
      @Tefixitafuckme Před 7 lety

      Timothy Brown Thank you

  • @-t8909
    @-t8909 Před 7 lety +12

    WHERE THE HELL IS VIVACIOUS?!

  • @mimzilla8623
    @mimzilla8623 Před 7 lety +1

    I love that they touched on the history and truth Trail Blazers of drag!!!

  • @palacioed17
    @palacioed17 Před 7 lety +1

    12:00 omg. The shade. Milk was like "would you be my party monster manager?", and James was like "eh... (nervous laugh).. Changes the subject". He never talks about that.

    • @palacioed17
      @palacioed17 Před 7 lety +1

      20:50 He talked a little bit about it.

  • @apihamekealoha
    @apihamekealoha Před 9 lety +1

    Wow this was so interesting, entertaining,medication all, and fun! Wish I was there to experience the whole discussion. Learned so much from this. Thanks for this you guys!

    • @apihamekealoha
      @apihamekealoha Před 9 lety +1

      *entertaining, EDUCATIONAL, and fun!
      (I hate iPhone/iPad's autocorrect😑)

  • @KissesAndMuahs
    @KissesAndMuahs Před 9 lety

    We NEED to do a video with you James! ❤️

  • @darkprincess1918
    @darkprincess1918 Před 9 lety +1

    This was a great interview. A lot of new history for me to research.

  • @Flizflazz
    @Flizflazz Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you, this was fascinating!

  • @erinthebestartist
    @erinthebestartist Před 9 lety +1

    thanks for posting, i've learnt so much!!!

  • @JimmieNajmi
    @JimmieNajmi Před 9 lety +66

    Oh gosh Milk muscle !

  • @WhimsicalNessa
    @WhimsicalNessa Před 7 lety +1

    They mentioned Dianne and other people/things I like!

  • @olubukonla7352
    @olubukonla7352 Před 7 lety +4

    Crystal La Beija spoke in patois because she was Caribbean. Black Queens are marginalized n gay culture just like in society at large

  • @medo05511
    @medo05511 Před 9 lety +6

    Umm Dragcon was like 2 months ago

  • @graciehtml
    @graciehtml Před 8 lety +4

    8:50 little edie story

  • @lizziea.110
    @lizziea.110 Před 9 lety

    i loved this panel...i dont like how it abruptly ended though...i wanted more!

  • @gabbyc816
    @gabbyc816 Před 4 lety

    I love the way ppl spoke in the 40s to70s.

  • @theonlyriotstarter
    @theonlyriotstarter Před 6 lety

    I went to my first drag show two weeks ago and there was a queen that looked exactly like Leigh Bowery it shocked me! I had to explain it to everyone!!!

  • @WoodlandT
    @WoodlandT Před 7 lety

    I hope the children learn to understand and revere our amazing history!

  • @michellecole8586
    @michellecole8586 Před 6 lety +1

    I’m glad it’s don’t just me who thinks milk doesn’t belong in this panel, no shade, all t she’s nothing compared to the B.B. and JSJ.... thank you, V and Ornatia on this panel would have SNAPPED

  • @Adjuia
    @Adjuia Před 9 lety

    KNOWLEDGE!! N INSPIRATION N AFFIRMATION OF SELF EXPRESSION, LOVE THE BOULET BROTHERS

  • @salahbessiso1858
    @salahbessiso1858 Před 7 lety +2

    How old are The Boulet Bros???

  • @sebastianbelli4341
    @sebastianbelli4341 Před 7 lety

    I love Jamess' laugh

  • @renatapaiva4805
    @renatapaiva4805 Před 9 lety

    Such an amazing herstory lesson

  • @Drewscarymore
    @Drewscarymore Před 9 lety

    I was there omg it was so great. Serious T was spilled lmao

  • @uschilou
    @uschilou Před 9 lety

    I just wish that "The Queen" was 50 hours long. So. Good.

  • @ericlindstrom4604
    @ericlindstrom4604 Před 9 lety +1

    It's weird when the mentioned Rym Burke and How original, when I see him I see The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence... it is very Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence

  • @rudilauda3182
    @rudilauda3182 Před 8 lety +3

    Giving circus bugs from a bugs life realness

  • @GidgetGacey
    @GidgetGacey Před 8 lety +1

    💜james💜

  • @AntoinettexKitten
    @AntoinettexKitten Před 4 měsíci

    It's sad most of the club kids are either gone, want to move on and forget, or are too afraid to show themselves

  • @destinyDOLLable
    @destinyDOLLable Před 9 lety

    Milk laughed and looked at herself when she said natural beauty lmao

  • @erikadowdy686
    @erikadowdy686 Před 9 lety

    As long it stays fun and playfully scary and never turn into a different embodiment.
    Its mostly just to socialize and be creative.
    LIVED James suit!

  • @micahgold815
    @micahgold815 Před 9 lety +1

    NOOOOOOO ANDY WARHOL WAS NOT A JUDGE IN THE MOVIE QUEEN!!! get yo facts hanny! The MC says she wanted to get Andy to come but she couldn't because he was filming a movie in his factory when CRYSTAL accused them of fixing the pageant for HARLOW.

  • @lamontroyster2025
    @lamontroyster2025 Před 3 lety

    I love you guy hats .These right here are sickaning.

  • @helb5198
    @helb5198 Před 7 lety

    This just confirms what I've always thought, I was born in the wrong decade, I should've be born sooner!

  • @garychiappa3676
    @garychiappa3676 Před 4 lety

    James st James makes me feel better about myself

  • @SamaraRose1821
    @SamaraRose1821 Před 9 lety

    to quote my favorite character from will and grace, Jack. Confuse me? but milk is fucking gorgeous!!!! and still is.

  • @MzTressDoom
    @MzTressDoom Před 9 lety

    great panel

  • @jackiecieri
    @jackiecieri Před 9 lety

    God damn Milk has some fucking guns!

  • @movingandshaking3849
    @movingandshaking3849 Před 9 lety

    The documentary, The Queen (1968), is available on CZcams free!

  • @gabeash007
    @gabeash007 Před 6 lety

    They did James dirty with the thumbnail

  • @greg7656
    @greg7656 Před 3 lety

    No gender hacking before the '80s? How do they not credit Bowie? The Boulet Brothers even lifted their name from his song The Bewlay Brothers

  • @zachleming
    @zachleming Před 7 lety +1

    Gaga has given credit to club kids and the gay community many times. Thats the difference between her and Madonna shes not a rip off she says he I did this cause I love Bowie I did this because I love Queen I did this because of a club kid look. Madonna just acts like it was all her idea when the gays were doing it before her!

  • @steveroby413
    @steveroby413 Před 3 lety

    I remember diane Brill on talk shows

  • @AshyRenay
    @AshyRenay Před 8 lety

    JamesJamesJaaaames!

  • @haleyjadelovethatname
    @haleyjadelovethatname Před 7 lety

    i remember Walt Paper (sp?) on the Joan Rivers interview !!

  • @APR944
    @APR944 Před 9 lety

    I would live more of this discussion on gay and drag History please another session/series. Xo's

  • @jewsaregenocidalhores
    @jewsaregenocidalhores Před 9 lety +3

    Milk is the manliest queen I've ever seen.

  • @ahamadrafrafi5456
    @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤ماما❤❤❤❤

  • @cameroncornelius744
    @cameroncornelius744 Před 8 lety

    What are the boulet brothers headpieces made out of? it looks like leather or foam, I NEED TO KNOW!!!

  • @davidhopper1663
    @davidhopper1663 Před 9 lety

    And of course hilarious!

  • @redbomb66607
    @redbomb66607 Před 2 lety

    I love James soooooo fuckin .... but he doesnt let anyone else talk 🙄

  • @ahamadrafrafi5456
    @ahamadrafrafi5456 Před 8 měsíci

    ❤❤❤حبيبتي❤❤❤

  • @Gabi_Emi
    @Gabi_Emi Před 9 lety +1

    Milk❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Dejahthoris22
    @Dejahthoris22 Před 7 lety

    Sad they skip over David Bowie, who was the very first one to wear makeup, female hair, shoes and clothes, back as far as the mid sixties.

  • @denisespurlock7869
    @denisespurlock7869 Před 4 lety

    Where is Michael Alig?

  • @nickd0301
    @nickd0301 Před 9 lety +1

    Rupaul at 19:40 !

  • @tuskmite
    @tuskmite Před 3 lety

    What's with the dysfunctional editing??

  • @sebastiandietl5937
    @sebastiandietl5937 Před 9 lety

    I really love milk, but that look? ..
    Her look on the second day of Drag Con was amazing tho.

  • @pedroclemente7397
    @pedroclemente7397 Před 7 lety

    hey, can someone tell me who the guy named John is, idk if im not hearing his last name correctly but they compared Kayvon Zand to him?

    • @shanibloome
      @shanibloome Před 3 lety

      John Sex. Look up Nelson Sullivan videos on CZcams and there are scenes with him at the clubs...part of the club kids era, NY 1980’s

  • @para_momal
    @para_momal Před 6 lety

    Great panel, but who the fuck brought a baby?! It's great to start them out early, but there is a limit.

  • @steveroby413
    @steveroby413 Před 3 lety

    Didn't Michael pass away?