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Kane could actually be better this year. He got to train for play this off-season rather than rehab. If he had 20G 27A in 50G, it's a safe bet he gets 30+G & 70-80Pts with a full season.
@StanleyArmer-zj4yv I think that depends on the wingers on the 2nd line. If you put Kane & Tarasenko on the 2nd line you'll want Compher there because those 2 wingers are not defensive at all. Compher is good at puck retrieval & he has a nice pass. If you go Kane Debrincat I could definitely see Danielson on the 2nd line. The Cat is pretty solid defensively. Lines get juggled up so almost no one is locked in place except Larkin & Seider.
First person Ive seen to not put Cat Larks Raymond on the first line and actually puts Cat with Kane where he should be or with Raymond to really mold him into something special. Which hes already on the path for anyway but would just make him that much better.
I really would prefer Raymond on the top line but Tarasenko and Kane are notoriously bad at defense so I want Cat to be able to hustle and backcheck. Agreed that Raymond is special and super pumped for his 40 goal/100 point season in the future!
@@undraftedhockeyfanKane & Tarasenko can play together on the PP. If Cat has to play more d, don't expect him to put up 40G. Most people seem to want him to get more goals but he played great last year & just hit a lot of posts. So I think he'll get over 30 this year for sure but given his wing mate he probably won't hit 40G.
Didn't bother to mention Nate Danielson as far as top forwards in the Red Wings system... I hope you just honestly forgot. He might be the best out of all the forward prospects, though I do love MBN's game.
It was my first time reading an ad on the show and I had to do three of them. Plus, I don't know how to video edit yet so if I screw up, I have to re-record an hour long episode lol
@@undraftedhockeyfan You can always slow down reading to keep calm & you're way less likely to gaffe any words. If you have confidence going in, you got this bro. You just gotta put your mind in the right place.
im going larkin kane a debrincat 1st line then vlad chompher and raymond for line 2 i also think motte will be in the ahl and either mazur or kasper come up i also can see veleno walking so that could leave the spot open right there for kasper unless danielson jumps him
Veleno is an RFA... he doesn't really have an option to "walk". I agree with you that Kasper is gonna push for a spot, but unless Mazur puts on 15-25 lbs, he's likely gonna be back in GR.
I can see them trading Veleno for sure so that he can get more opportunity on a bottoming team. I just hope they get more rookies in the lineup because the boys are getting over-riped in the AHL. Kasper probably needs more AHL time but I wouldn't mind him on the 3rd line. If Danielson is going to play 3rd line on the Wings, I would rather him just stay in the AHL and play top line down there for the playing time.
Motte is on the regular roster most likely. He was brought in for his defensive game & back check & pk. He won't get points but he will be a useful workhorse.
Why couldn't you waive Holl to free up a roster spot? If someone claims him, good riddance. If not, he goes down to GR and waits for a call up if there's an injury.
Yzerman said Holl is NHL-level defenceman. I think he will rebound his game and after all these hatethreads... it will be funny if he is as ok as Chiarot was after his rebounding 2nd season.
@henrikuivanen2302 what else is Yzerman going to say? But clearly Newsy didn't agree. He had the lowest TOI/GP of any dman when he actually did play. This season he had 5 whole points in 38 games. He also had the 3rd worst xGA/60 after Walman and Seider, despite having the highest % of OZ starts amongst dmen. Tell me what he does so well that is deserving of that contract?
@@jennifermorris9985 Holl has two years left so waiving him now will frustrate the player and he will request a trade, which lowers his value even more. The goal for Holl is for him to get better so they can trade him or use him. He is a right handed defender, which is why he was overpaid and those are hard to come by. Newsy has to work with him a ton to refine his game and make it work for him. Also, waiving Holl would make Yzerman look bad and I don't think ownership will want to pay a guy that much to play in the minors.
@undraftedhockeyfan I don't think Yzerman cares how he looks. Paying 3.4 mil for a guy who can't crack the lineup already looks bad. Buying out Husso looks bad. Trading fan favorite Walman looked bad. Holl is 32, and I haven't seen a single person mock him as a regular in the lineup for this year. How is he supposed to increase his value for a trade? Would you rather play Holl or your young rookie that needs experience when rotating in the 7th Dman? And next year, you hopefully have ASP and Wallinder fighting for jobs. Just cut your losses now.
@jennifermorris9985 I think they want to give him a chance this year because Chiarot had a good 2nd year & it's hard to think Holl could be any worse. If he survives this year, he only has 1 more left which makes him easy to move or if you buyout the length is only 2 or 3 years of penalty whereas if you do it now it's 4+years. That hurts our competitive windows in a few years. Holl can be rotated & don't forget our D this year was abnormally healthy. Most years we get banged up & need extra guys.
As a sports bettor myself, I don't have much faith in the Wings. I was a Wings fan until Hossa departed, realizing their Cup contendor days was over. I've focused on Tampa, Boston, and Florida for years. The Wings aren't good enough for my interes. If they get competitive, I'll add them to my must-see tv.
Wings are definitely on the come up and the last five games of the season last year were must-watch TV. It was a nail biter!! Yeah hockey is hard to bet on because it is such a team sport. Florida is a good bet but I can see Boston falling out of the playoffs. However, they have surprised us before!
@@undraftedhockeyfanBoston never goes away. Same as TB. Boston lost 2 top 6 centers & still made the playoffs. They just gave away a great goalie for very little return. They will drop but not by much. But Boston is the team we need to see slip out of the top 4 in the division because Fla TB & Tor have a lock for playoffs right now.
Unfortunately that is a pipe dream. Right handed defenseman are a premium. Look what Dallas paid for Matt Dumba and Ilya Lybushkin. Way too much. Husso will be a cap dump, which you mind as well buy him out so you don't have to send out an asset with him.
Kane could actually be better this year. He got to train for play this off-season rather than rehab. If he had 20G 27A in 50G, it's a safe bet he gets 30+G & 70-80Pts with a full season.
Danielson will be 2nd line center if he make the team
@StanleyArmer-zj4yv I think that depends on the wingers on the 2nd line. If you put Kane & Tarasenko on the 2nd line you'll want Compher there because those 2 wingers are not defensive at all. Compher is good at puck retrieval & he has a nice pass. If you go Kane Debrincat I could definitely see Danielson on the 2nd line. The Cat is pretty solid defensively. Lines get juggled up so almost no one is locked in place except Larkin & Seider.
First person Ive seen to not put Cat Larks Raymond on the first line and actually puts Cat with Kane where he should be or with Raymond to really mold him into something special. Which hes already on the path for anyway but would just make him that much better.
I really would prefer Raymond on the top line but Tarasenko and Kane are notoriously bad at defense so I want Cat to be able to hustle and backcheck. Agreed that Raymond is special and super pumped for his 40 goal/100 point season in the future!
@@undraftedhockeyfanKane & Tarasenko can play together on the PP. If Cat has to play more d, don't expect him to put up 40G. Most people seem to want him to get more goals but he played great last year & just hit a lot of posts. So I think he'll get over 30 this year for sure but given his wing mate he probably won't hit 40G.
Didn't bother to mention Nate Danielson as far as top forwards in the Red Wings system... I hope you just honestly forgot. He might be the best out of all the forward prospects, though I do love MBN's game.
Nate is developing phenomenally!! Also, I put him on the final roster at the end on the third line.
Bro why you so nervous???
It was my first time reading an ad on the show and I had to do three of them. Plus, I don't know how to video edit yet so if I screw up, I have to re-record an hour long episode lol
@@undraftedhockeyfan You can always slow down reading to keep calm & you're way less likely to gaffe any words.
If you have confidence going in, you got this bro. You just gotta put your mind in the right place.
im going larkin kane a debrincat 1st line then vlad chompher and raymond for line 2 i also think motte will be in the ahl and either mazur or kasper come up i also can see veleno walking so that could leave the spot open right there for kasper unless danielson jumps him
Veleno is an RFA... he doesn't really have an option to "walk". I agree with you that Kasper is gonna push for a spot, but unless Mazur puts on 15-25 lbs, he's likely gonna be back in GR.
I can see them trading Veleno for sure so that he can get more opportunity on a bottoming team. I just hope they get more rookies in the lineup because the boys are getting over-riped in the AHL. Kasper probably needs more AHL time but I wouldn't mind him on the 3rd line. If Danielson is going to play 3rd line on the Wings, I would rather him just stay in the AHL and play top line down there for the playing time.
Motte is on the regular roster most likely. He was brought in for his defensive game & back check & pk. He won't get points but he will be a useful workhorse.
Why couldn't you waive Holl to free up a roster spot? If someone claims him, good riddance. If not, he goes down to GR and waits for a call up if there's an injury.
Yzerman said Holl is NHL-level defenceman. I think he will rebound his game and after all these hatethreads... it will be funny if he is as ok as Chiarot was after his rebounding 2nd season.
@henrikuivanen2302 what else is Yzerman going to say? But clearly Newsy didn't agree. He had the lowest TOI/GP of any dman when he actually did play. This season he had 5 whole points in 38 games. He also had the 3rd worst xGA/60 after Walman and Seider, despite having the highest % of OZ starts amongst dmen. Tell me what he does so well that is deserving of that contract?
@@jennifermorris9985 Holl has two years left so waiving him now will frustrate the player and he will request a trade, which lowers his value even more. The goal for Holl is for him to get better so they can trade him or use him. He is a right handed defender, which is why he was overpaid and those are hard to come by. Newsy has to work with him a ton to refine his game and make it work for him. Also, waiving Holl would make Yzerman look bad and I don't think ownership will want to pay a guy that much to play in the minors.
@undraftedhockeyfan I don't think Yzerman cares how he looks. Paying 3.4 mil for a guy who can't crack the lineup already looks bad. Buying out Husso looks bad. Trading fan favorite Walman looked bad. Holl is 32, and I haven't seen a single person mock him as a regular in the lineup for this year. How is he supposed to increase his value for a trade? Would you rather play Holl or your young rookie that needs experience when rotating in the 7th Dman? And next year, you hopefully have ASP and Wallinder fighting for jobs. Just cut your losses now.
@jennifermorris9985 I think they want to give him a chance this year because Chiarot had a good 2nd year & it's hard to think Holl could be any worse. If he survives this year, he only has 1 more left which makes him easy to move or if you buyout the length is only 2 or 3 years of penalty whereas if you do it now it's 4+years. That hurts our competitive windows in a few years. Holl can be rotated & don't forget our D this year was abnormally healthy. Most years we get banged up & need extra guys.
As a sports bettor myself, I don't have much faith in the Wings. I was a Wings fan until Hossa departed, realizing their Cup contendor days was over. I've focused on Tampa, Boston, and Florida for years. The Wings aren't good enough for my interes. If they get competitive, I'll add them to my must-see tv.
So you're a fair weather fan who roots for whichever team is winning. What a sad life you must live
So your a fan of whatever team wins the cup ?
now you are the definition of bandwagon
Wings are definitely on the come up and the last five games of the season last year were must-watch TV. It was a nail biter!! Yeah hockey is hard to bet on because it is such a team sport. Florida is a good bet but I can see Boston falling out of the playoffs. However, they have surprised us before!
@@undraftedhockeyfanBoston never goes away. Same as TB. Boston lost 2 top 6 centers & still made the playoffs. They just gave away a great goalie for very little return. They will drop but not by much. But Boston is the team we need to see slip out of the top 4 in the division because Fla TB & Tor have a lock for playoffs right now.
Don't buy Husso out, trade him for a solid RD with 1-2 years on his contract.
What team is trading a RHD for Husso?
You’re delusional
@@jennifermorris9985exactly
what team in a world of teams needed solid nhl RD would trade for a injured goalie? come on man
Unfortunately that is a pipe dream. Right handed defenseman are a premium. Look what Dallas paid for Matt Dumba and Ilya Lybushkin. Way too much. Husso will be a cap dump, which you mind as well buy him out so you don't have to send out an asset with him.