Town Center - AoE Podcast with TheViper & Masmorra feat. Dave - Ep. 10

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • Welcome to our monthly podcast format "Town Center" - where the lovely duo of @TheViperAOE & @MasmorraAoE discuss everything around the world of Age of Empires II.
    This episodes guest is the one and only @daveaoe aka Jean Bureau.
    48 hours after upload also available on Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/0pv1c2C...
    0:00 Intro and Agenda
    5:52 Hidden Cup 5: Why so many "new" names?
    17:38 Does it still make sense to have 8 direct invites?
    22:51 Map Pool and Pathing
    28:47 "Only" 40 thousand dollar prize pool: is it a problem?
    34:05 Will T90 beat his viewership record?
    38:40 Do we "need" hidden identities to have a successful tournament?
    44:00 Red Bull tournament and New Campaign only DLC
    52:04 1 million active monthly players?!
    59:02 Focusing on Dave: Has Viper's and T90's return hurt Dave's stream?
    1:07:37 Are you too consumed by AoE 2 and streaming?
    1:14:02 Wandering Warriors Cup 2?
    1:19:59 Dave's next big project
    The AoE Podcast
    open.spotify.com/show/6isxn9a...
    Tiramis' Hidden Cup video
    • The Genius Behind AOE2...
    Dev stream on February 23rd
    / welyn
    We're excited for your feedback. Let us know what you think!
    Check out our socials and follow to stay updated!
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Komentáře • 191

  • @donaldfarquar
    @donaldfarquar Před 3 měsíci +226

    Podcast is really growing fast, can't believe they got Jean Bureau. French hero and legendary commander.

  • @rbase96
    @rbase96 Před 3 měsíci +86

    4:00 Dave completely forgot to tell that he signed a blender(/mixer) at the NAC5 matchup and it was given away. So technically the blender giveaway was done there :)

    • @GLAgeOfEmpires
      @GLAgeOfEmpires  Před 3 měsíci +5

      true!

    • @jonskog7263
      @jonskog7263 Před 3 měsíci

      There was also a blender giveaway in Switzerland when Dave was casting at the HeroFest in October.

  • @Nesque
    @Nesque Před 3 měsíci +14

    Dave's chat is the best thing on twitch, just getting to be dumb and having your sillyness encouraged is a kind of rare thing, I always have a good time with Dave.

  • @ashley-paul
    @ashley-paul Před 3 měsíci +27

    7:55 "Our tournament structure is not 100% based around competitive integrity." 11 Dave gives no Fs. I love it.

  • @jeremykothe2847
    @jeremykothe2847 Před 3 měsíci +50

    I'm a simple man. I see Town Center and I click like.

  • @paweborkowski6959
    @paweborkowski6959 Před 3 měsíci +13

    My favourite episode so far.
    Love that Dave spoke his mind, even if sometimes at the expense of others. Love that Viper spoke back.
    Love that there was a discussion instead of everyone agreeing on everything.
    Many interesting ideas, topics, viewpoints.
    Excellent job guys.

  • @jamesvader7951
    @jamesvader7951 Před 3 měsíci +12

    The mod theory can be tested! Patch the game when the dlc drops, do not start it. Disconnect your device from the internet. Start the game. Old background? Jackpot!

    • @momobo5889
      @momobo5889 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Exactly! Waiting for the next menu background mod to drop to test it (hasnt been one since the DLC)

  • @gebhard128
    @gebhard128 Před 3 měsíci +19

    Great to have Dave in this episode, he is my favorite caster in the scene and a fantastic entertainer. News on AoM retold is definetly one of the things im hyped the most for this week

  • @shed_aoe5878
    @shed_aoe5878 Před 3 měsíci +5

    To add to Masmorra's point at 11:10 about teams being supported, the Taiwanese team TAG currently has sponsorship and multiple professional/fulltime players within the team trying to improve. I think Wayne Chang might be a solid interview candidate for upcoming episodes

  • @ar1sm70
    @ar1sm70 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Always a pleasure to listen to Dave, he's the most likeable dude in a scene full of likeable dudes :)

  • @fahim-ev8qq
    @fahim-ev8qq Před 3 měsíci +17

    Interesting that while there’s this idea that HC can’t draw viewers with less familiarity with the game (because they won’t be invested in the hidden identities given that they don’t know many players anyway) the first tournament i ever watched and my introduction into the AOE competitive scene was HC4 and i was hooked immediately. The idea of hidden identities was just so interesting and unique to me and i wanted to see whether the big names such as viper or Hera that people were claiming would win or make it deep into the tournament, would actually win, or whether due to the seeding an underdog would win. Just the idea was amazing and hooked me, even though i had no idea who any player was, all i knew was that there are favourites and underdogs.

  • @gonzalotoscano3310
    @gonzalotoscano3310 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Just came here for Dave, never heard of this new guy called TheViper before.
    Thanks for the episodes, had to move here since you stopped posting the podcasts on your main channel Masmorra, will follow you where you go!

    • @GLAgeOfEmpires
      @GLAgeOfEmpires  Před 3 měsíci +4

      The Podcast was never on Masmorras channel. His interviews are not the same format as this one.

  • @DM-rc4yu
    @DM-rc4yu Před 3 měsíci +8

    It's hilarious how different the vibes are in Dave's chat compared to other aoe streamers peepoDegen

  • @TheCptNutter
    @TheCptNutter Před 3 měsíci +2

    Love the format of these podcasts, with Viper and Masmorra as "regulars", plus a new guest each week. The insights, stories and jokes from Dave was great and really made me laugh. Can't wait for the next podcast.
    Thanks!

  • @krillindiesagain
    @krillindiesagain Před 3 měsíci +6

    Correction. At 15:00, dave mentions that seb lost to andy in quali 2 which is not the case. He beat andy in quali 1 and lost to situax in quali 2. seb has been the better player atm against andy (beat andy in hc5 quali)

  • @bars5555
    @bars5555 Před 3 měsíci +2

    There was an online radio show from the custom scenario lobby back in the msn zone days. Then you had limewire stuff too which was basically proto-podcasts. There was php-nuke websites which had audio widgets. This game always had a lot of people on the cutting edge, this is why we are still here today :)

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I am so Happy that this community is so Friendly, God bless, feels like a gem!!

  • @klaxxon__
    @klaxxon__ Před 3 měsíci +14

    "What's hidden cup if viewers really aren't familiar with the players behind the hidden names". It's actually amazing for learning about the players and the scene. I first got into watching competitive age during hidden cup 3 and it was so much easier than getting into other esports. All the speculations teach you a lot about the players. Viper was the micro master, MBL was unconventional if a bit clumsy, daut was slower but incredibly respected...Also, if you tune into a random Starcraft tourney, all the Zergs seem to you. HC is all bout the differences between the players. So fun.

    • @rickychardzz
      @rickychardzz Před 3 měsíci

      Viper is the quick wall master, liereyy is the micro.

  • @Dawnrim
    @Dawnrim Před 3 měsíci +3

    He figured out the way to not have a heart attack like our parents or destructive mental issues like those younger than us is to be a self-declared lazy person who does just enough: Dave is the standard-bearer for us millennials

  • @HimanshuJindal1989
    @HimanshuJindal1989 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Great podcast! Keep it going.

  • @2Freak
    @2Freak Před 3 měsíci +2

    Love the content fellas, awesome format keep em coming!

  • @esdalan7922
    @esdalan7922 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Insightful as usual. Keep up the great work!

  • @giovannipiantanida2198
    @giovannipiantanida2198 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nelson’s questions are really well made and interesting! Keep it up guys, this is incredible quality

  • @BramVanroy
    @BramVanroy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really love that we get a better insight into the guest's perspectives and lives with the more personal questions. Very happy with the podcast! Keep it up!

  • @waylandertheslayer3259
    @waylandertheslayer3259 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Love the podcast. Really great to hear from Dave. Keep up the good work fellas!

  • @darrickmartin300
    @darrickmartin300 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love all of this!

  • @AlexB-vt5xe
    @AlexB-vt5xe Před 3 měsíci +1

    Many many thanks for another episode, like always really enjoyable :)

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It really feels like you're watching on the computer screen, "like you're sitting at the table"Makes you really feel part of the community!!!

  • @markburke1396
    @markburke1396 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What a great podcast and wonderful episode, genuinely didn't want it to end. I could've watched these guys talk for hours. great vibes 🙂

  • @valinagabrielle
    @valinagabrielle Před 3 měsíci +2

    Greag to hear you guys, as always!

  • @davidpereira5969
    @davidpereira5969 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The end of 3rd last topic is why i'd say dave is my favorite aoe2 caster. His casts have a great mix of talking about the game seriously while analyzing gameplay, talking about the game and going way too deep into celt tower creep or aztec xolotl rush and just messing around and having that "chill streamer who just dicks around" with moments like using a firestarter when you go do number 2 on your date's home

  • @TimClauson
    @TimClauson Před 3 měsíci

    Previously there was a discussion about the lack of cohesion in planning tournaments particularly S tier tournaments. I'd like to hear a bit more about what could be done to help create a more cohesive S tier calendar. It's what the scene needs to take things forward and make everything better than it already is.

  • @illume777
    @illume777 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Amazing podcast. Love it.

  • @2cunem
    @2cunem Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks gl for the podcast. The thoughts of the guests also the cast i rly interesring❤

  • @TheModernSinatra
    @TheModernSinatra Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great podcast as always!

  • @gmat4380
    @gmat4380 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Great podcast as always! Also to think there could be potentially hundreds of thousands of people at least launching the game each month is awesome to hear. Hope it's true!

  • @kathreune
    @kathreune Před 3 měsíci

    Favorite episode so far!! Such likable dudes. 😊

  • @killerre5
    @killerre5 Před 3 měsíci +2

    just on the success of hidden cup. its not just unique to AOE2, its unique to esports as a whole, and thats interesting even to people who arent AOE2 fans. that has alot of reach. there will definatley be drawbacks, but at the same time its so unique its something that should be cherished

  • @jacobwood3326
    @jacobwood3326 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome content-thank you!!

  • @jeremykothe2847
    @jeremykothe2847 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Dave, after T90. Let me rephrase that... along with T90, is why I watch this game. The reason they're so good together is that T90 gives every shit, and Dave gives none.

    • @jeremykothe2847
      @jeremykothe2847 Před 3 měsíci +2

      And if we ever lost Dave, it would be worse than losing Nili. I love Nili, but Dave brings that everyman perspective and just has FUN.

    • @Cheximus
      @Cheximus Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@jeremykothe2847Dave and T90 are almost interchangeable. Nili is a completely different flavour (I prefer him tbh). Miss that dry wit. It barely exists now with Nili gone.

  • @jaydenleslie4431
    @jaydenleslie4431 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Dave is good fun. Was a good town center today. Cheers

  • @ellycat5703
    @ellycat5703 Před 2 měsíci

    Actually want to see these 7 videos of Dave and the Viper getting Dave's record back!

  • @jhsluh1124
    @jhsluh1124 Před 3 měsíci

    So Great! Looking forward to the next episode 🫶

  • @moritzmonska9912
    @moritzmonska9912 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love this episode so much. Agree, that we need some more creativity on the ladder, in streams and tournaments. Also agree on the masteridea, needed just to be structure launched by microsoft with a small pricepool generated by their income. Easy win für alle und kind of a academy for rookies 🤔

  • @kyotokid
    @kyotokid Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great podcast!

  • @FastFeudal
    @FastFeudal Před 3 měsíci +3

    dave is such a chad. great episode

  • @FelixDelix77
    @FelixDelix77 Před 3 měsíci +2

    man, i just love dave. definetly check out his stream. you could even win a blender

  • @ColinAoC
    @ColinAoC Před 3 měsíci +1

    Viper showing off his winter beard. Looking good!

    • @GLAgeOfEmpires
      @GLAgeOfEmpires  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Fun fact, first thing he said when he came into the house was that he needs to shave.

  • @oll-turny-llo8200
    @oll-turny-llo8200 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great podcast with "bell" ❤

  • @bunga6475
    @bunga6475 Před 3 měsíci

    as always, excelent podcast

  • @Bobby.B619
    @Bobby.B619 Před 3 měsíci

    Really great episode.

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci +1

    1:01:01 Congratz Dave For the Good ruN!!!!

  • @Chris_Taru
    @Chris_Taru Před 3 měsíci +1

    On the topic of monthly active users and why there are so many more offline players: AoE2 is one of the few online games where your own experience depends on the hardware and internet connection of other players. This is in my opinion a major technical flaw that most high-level players only rarely experience, because they primarily play each other. But casual players will regularly run into massive FPS drops and lags, despite excellent hardware and internet connection. Also the performance test on ladder doesn't seem to change much there.
    Also how much would it really cost MS to give some love to the "custom game" lobbies? There's so much untapped potential in the less competitive ways of playing Age of Empires, particularly for casual players. Think of all the community game modes that streamers like to host and what could be done with a lobby system that embraces these concepts. The entire community could benefit so much from that.

  • @OytheGreat
    @OytheGreat Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think 1mio active players could be right. I also spotted in the mod centre the most downloaded mods were the backgrounds from the expansions, with 1.2mio dls. I would be surprised if there were much less active players, in fact.

  • @SirMayonnaiseAoe
    @SirMayonnaiseAoe Před 3 měsíci

    Making me love Dave even more ❤

  • @erikbringsjord4734
    @erikbringsjord4734 Před 3 měsíci

    Love the podcast. Looking forward to HC5

  • @charleyruwart8983
    @charleyruwart8983 Před 2 měsíci

    I love this show.

  • @bonevgm
    @bonevgm Před 3 měsíci

    The reason why I like to watch Dave stream is exactly because he is not forcing himself and he enjoys the streams. That is what makes his silly streams fun and the best.

  • @krishkothari111
    @krishkothari111 Před měsícem

    Love this bald guy!!
    Best of luck Dave❤

  • @user-nt3kd4jv1q
    @user-nt3kd4jv1q Před 3 měsíci

    Love your podcast. Keep your good work. Gg

  • @sweetlittlenerd
    @sweetlittlenerd Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good moderation :)

  • @PossiblySean
    @PossiblySean Před 3 měsíci

    The blender and Toaster cup were hosted by StreamingInTheYears(ex aoe streamer) a few years back! Dont know if this is linked to it too :)

  • @FelixDelix77
    @FelixDelix77 Před 3 měsíci +1

    i like this podcast

  • @user-os5do3uo5j
    @user-os5do3uo5j Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would love a co-op campaign DLC!

  • @nicholascrooks8465
    @nicholascrooks8465 Před 3 měsíci

    45:08 Increased Sales of Red Bull in little places like Blanchardville, WI
    53:40 I have bought 3 copies. 1 for me and 1 each for my children.
    JK but for real I switched from Monster to yellow Red Bull because of their sponsorship.

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci

    5:10 Love it!!!

  • @joshuanunthuk1864
    @joshuanunthuk1864 Před 3 měsíci +3

    new gl podcast drops, i click

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci

    1:11:53 Yeah we Take for Granted all the time that the casters for us, but it IS really an achievement to cast for 8 hours straight without taking a break

  • @DT-yt2zh
    @DT-yt2zh Před 3 měsíci +1

    CZcams matters because it doesn't lag and skip, and Twitch does.

  • @iuppiterr
    @iuppiterr Před 3 měsíci

    3:57 well said Silver boy

  • @joacocichello
    @joacocichello Před 3 měsíci +2

    Sebastian will be the next legend

  • @Payhellbay
    @Payhellbay Před 3 měsíci

    Of course we have to hit the bell! It's a Town Center! Ring that bell people!

  • @KurtFan69
    @KurtFan69 Před 3 měsíci

    it's true that he is so different when he's casting a big event than in his own stream on whatever day😅
    cool to hear from dave, hope he does another WWC or that he can manage to do something more ambitious!

  • @Mermaidkilla
    @Mermaidkilla Před 3 měsíci

    amazing episode!
    A question: Would it be possible to upload the episodes faster to spotify?

    • @GLAgeOfEmpires
      @GLAgeOfEmpires  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you! Atm after 48 hours is the earliest we can do, since the upload to Spotify is mostly for listener convenience. Might change in the future though!

  • @BNCITY4ever
    @BNCITY4ever Před 3 měsíci +1

    Finally!!!

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci

    1:21:21 SUch Hard Work man!!! COngratz!!!

  • @gochunoodle2106
    @gochunoodle2106 Před 3 měsíci

    Vamooos GL podcast saludos

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Před 3 měsíci +1

    Plans for Sunday: Pizza and HC5 👌 already told my gf thr TV will be busy for a couple of hours, she will read manga.

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci

    Congrazt on your Birthday in "2" days dave 🎉🎉🎉

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow the Dave screen :O

  • @dylandoty3596
    @dylandoty3596 Před 3 měsíci

    Love Dave

  • @lukas_613
    @lukas_613 Před 3 měsíci

    So excited to hear that the AoE poopcast may not actually be dead !!

  • @superdumptacos
    @superdumptacos Před 3 měsíci

    Liking and commenting.

  • @SocksyyAU
    @SocksyyAU Před 3 měsíci

    xfire and Hamachi, that sends me back 11 Clan wars on Halo Trial and Halo custom edition FeelsStrongMan

  • @MorleyGames1
    @MorleyGames1 Před 3 měsíci

    Prostagma!

  • @Randomvideos-tz9su
    @Randomvideos-tz9su Před 3 měsíci +7

    SoTL in the next podcast?

  • @akselst
    @akselst Před 3 měsíci

    39:50 Although I love t90 and his casts, I have to say it's not the same without Dave. That duo is what got me interested in the pro scene, many years ago at this point.

  • @tomtenthij5676
    @tomtenthij5676 Před 3 měsíci +1

    1:04:37 The Dave Culture" 😂😂

  • @AoLIronmaiden
    @AoLIronmaiden Před 3 měsíci

    Age of Mythology Retold!!!!!!!

  • @kevrotherham1350
    @kevrotherham1350 Před 3 měsíci

    hahahaha !blender - it came originallly from comedian and former Irish aoe streamer "streaming in the years". He held a Blender tournament

  • @zackc3767
    @zackc3767 Před 3 měsíci

    People who play single player will totally drop money on *good* campaigns. If they can replicate campaigns with the feel of the OG campaigns (especially with power fun civs like Mongols or Franks) they will sell if they're reasonably priced (like 3 campaigns for 10$ initially). Give me another full Mongol campaign and I'll give you money.

  • @angryxeuz
    @angryxeuz Před 2 měsíci

    Dave's viewer are there for rehab from real life 😂

  • @mightybeko
    @mightybeko Před 3 měsíci

    Prostagma, Prostagma
    (AOM),
    Only Legends understand it

  • @MushmushCat
    @MushmushCat Před 3 měsíci

    commenting at min 2 for support ❤

  • @herotalib9556
    @herotalib9556 Před 3 měsíci

    Love dave

  • @yg-dn5ms
    @yg-dn5ms Před 3 měsíci

    My ❤ to Dave 💋💋💋

  • @Cheximus
    @Cheximus Před 3 měsíci

    I doubt 75k peak will get reached. How long was that for anyway, in HC4/RBW? A few seconds when it hit front page Twitch?

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 Před 3 měsíci

    51:05 yes it does.
    Source: I've won with civs / almost all of them.

  • @david_oliveira71
    @david_oliveira71 Před 3 měsíci

    Dave ... what a vicious marauder.. (11)

  • @s3rrated533
    @s3rrated533 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Im probably just misinterpriting what you guys actually mean by active/live player counts but you can get a healthy stat from the steam charts for peaks per month, all time peaks etc
    wouldnt count Xbox app purchased users but its a number

    • @MasmorraAoE
      @MasmorraAoE Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah so Steam charts only show how many people are playing at any given time.
      We were talking about "unique monthly users", so that's people that play at least one game of AoE 2 per month.
      Interestingly enough, I recently got confirmation event mods (like main menu background) are only downloaded once you start the game, so the 1 million guess is probably close enough!