Elden Ring DLC: New Miquella Ending Cutscene Found in Files! (DLC CUT CONTENT)

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  • @Dujma
    @Dujma Před 2 dny +1259

    messmer voice change is most probably done due to lore reasons.
    the trailer is portraying him as he is acting in the height of his crusade, pretending to be as menacing as possible to please his mother's wishes.
    doing something he himself didn't want to do, but did only for Marika.
    But, when we reach him in the game, he is already tired of pretending, broken from being abandoned in the realm of shadow.
    you can hear him struggling in his voice.
    It's done beautifully

    • @karayi7239
      @karayi7239 Před 2 dny +63

      Ngl sounds like a stretch.. if anything, the more confused tone of the trailer messmer fits better since it would be a true slap in his face that marika abandoned messmer only for her to opt for a graceless tarnished to be her lord.
      Also, the "mongrel intruder!" is pure "pretending to be as menacing as possible" so I don't see the whole "tired of pretending". His voice DOES sound more tired, but the way he speaks in the trailer is much much more confused which fits better.
      But yeah.. the delivery in the trailer is way cooler. The issue here is that the more of a fan you are, the more you have analysed the trailer, the more you'll feel the rug pulled from underneath you. My brain shorted the SECOND he said "mother" which honestly didn't feel good.

    • @bmbrowns1778
      @bmbrowns1778 Před 2 dny +97

      @@karayi7239 I felt like they made him sound more evil in the trailer on purpose to make us believe he's just a total evil villian. When in reality he is just another demigod who has a tragic backstory and could've been a good guy if Marika wasn't a total manipulative bitch who abandoned him

    • @KenobiStark1
      @KenobiStark1 Před 2 dny +22

      Yeah when he beats you he sounds completely defeated in spirit for having to kill again in this endless crusade. He says it like he’s tired of saying it haha

    • @Miralmar2790
      @Miralmar2790 Před 2 dny +9

      Glad someone mention this, the first thing I noticed when I faced him was his voice, he sounded so depressed...

    • @NaK-R
      @NaK-R Před 2 dny +5

      When you die to him and hr says that libe it sound so dull and lifeless.

  • @nobuffer101
    @nobuffer101 Před 2 dny +917

    Now that I think about it, the DLC never explained anything that connected Miquella to Torrent despite it being shown in the promotional art...

    • @AndrewH9999
      @AndrewH9999 Před 2 dny +97

      Sad about it

    • @SimplCup
      @SimplCup Před 2 dny +57

      what if when he began his journey to become a god in shadow realm, he summoned Melina to renounce the torrent but not just leave it in whatever place because he didn't want for torrent to be left like that, so he gave it to Melina for her to then find the new owner of torrent.

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +11

      ​@@SimplCupprobably if torrent came from the Shadow realm/miquella summoned they from there he just left they to his sister to not abandon they completely

    • @nobuffer101
      @nobuffer101 Před 2 dny +27

      @@SimplCup It wouldn't make too much sense since his goal and Melina's are too different.
      They would never support the ambition of the other, so I would only imagine that Miquella abandoned Torrent when he first arrived to the Realm of Shadows when Mohg "kidnapped" him and took him to Mohgwyn Palace, and Melina, potentially the Gloam-Eyed Queen and associated with death who was born in the Realm of Shadows as with Messmer, found Torrent.

    • @Kinzoku_Zileus
      @Kinzoku_Zileus Před 2 dny +45

      Miquella is traveling the land of shadow as we are, he's abandoning parts of himself as we continue through the dlc. The biggest example of this was when he discarded his great rune as we enter mesmers keep. The "torrent" in the art is just another spectral steed, not torrent.

  • @DDespicable
    @DDespicable Před 2 dny +554

    I think the dlc is just missing that one npc to give the closing word.
    Artorias of the abyss: had the grandmother mushroom to say we are the true hero.
    Crowns of the old kings: had vendrick to hand us our crown and new ending.
    The ringed city: had the painter to say we helped her create a gentle new world.
    Heck even the doll in bloodbourne said we did good at the end of the old hunters.

    • @krispt8835
      @krispt8835 Před 2 dny +95

      Yeah but in all of those, it implied a better world then when you arrived. But with Elden Ring, Ymir tells us that the fingers were broken from the start meaning that everything that has happened in the story has happened for no reason, and miquella dying doesn’t change anything except keep the terrible world that already exists.

    • @SimplCup
      @SimplCup Před 2 dny +10

      or even the new ending of some sort

    • @johnmcguire5212
      @johnmcguire5212 Před 2 dny +45

      I was thinking atleast ansbach would have been there to say something

    • @doublehit9165
      @doublehit9165 Před 2 dny +47

      we have it. saint trina does say thank you in the cut content dialogue post to miquella defeat.

    • @Zomboy123456789
      @Zomboy123456789 Před 2 dny +10

      Even the Painted World had the crowman to wrap things up.

  • @Micolashcage1
    @Micolashcage1 Před 2 dny +312

    Miquella used to have a bow?
    Gwyndolin confirmed

    • @Soap010
      @Soap010 Před 2 dny +6

      woah and gwyndolin was all about the dark and shadow n shit, good point haha where is velka tho?

    • @richizzle39
      @richizzle39 Před 2 dny +9

      @@Soap010Velka is Marika

  • @Asteriarimia
    @Asteriarimia Před 2 dny +253

    Considering how much Miquella's cut dialoge resembles the speech that Ranni does in her ending and the cutscene we saw in the trailer, i feel like it could have been an alternate ending either for the DLC or for the base game that they scrapped.

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a Před dnem +5

      I think it was first considered as an alternative ending to the base game until they swept it under the rug for DLC.

  • @ridetoruin
    @ridetoruin Před 2 dny +299

    I like the cut dialogue. I like that the start matches Ranni’s ending cinematic, almost like that phrasing is required to ascend to godhood.

    • @Shotzeethegamer
      @Shotzeethegamer Před 2 dny +1

      What? Ranni doesn't ascend to godhood, and miquella ALREADY has ascended to godhood.

    • @Siureivax
      @Siureivax Před dnem +48

      @@Shotzeethegamer But Ranni did ascend godhood. She’s an Empyrean under the patronage of new Outer God in her ending. Pretty sure op knew Miquella is a god too

    • @teagancombest6049
      @teagancombest6049 Před dnem +5

      ​@Siureivax no the dark moon isn't a god, it's more like a tutelary deity. Ranni is absconding from the lands between with the elden ring and going to kill confront the greater will

    • @alexlit3780
      @alexlit3780 Před dnem

      ​@@Shotzeethegamershut your ass up

    • @Shotzeethegamer
      @Shotzeethegamer Před dnem

      @@teagancombest6049 It's like people ignore everything in game and perpetuate r*tard head canon from reddit.

  • @Arc-ug7dc
    @Arc-ug7dc Před 2 dny +87

    New cutscene starts at 2:37 and ends at 3:35 for those that don’t like talking

  • @NaK-R
    @NaK-R Před 2 dny +719

    The cut one is better, is focused more about his main goal rather than his husband

    • @Zramy
      @Zramy Před 2 dny +61

      It wouldn't be literal husbandry. I think that you just don't understand.

    • @SimplCup
      @SimplCup Před 2 dny +134

      tbh, in the used one we see his true nature, that he's just a manipulator that uses people to become a god, whilst in the cut one he's still trying to "charm" everyone not revealing any secret goals of him, not revealing his true nature, so i prefer the one they used cus it makes more sense imo.

    • @carlosperalta4351
      @carlosperalta4351 Před 2 dny +52

      ​@@SimplCupI think that's an oversimplification of his character though it's his biggest negative

    • @ilijacavic9049
      @ilijacavic9049 Před 2 dny +23

      I think they cut it because his wording is very similar to rannis in the age of stars ending

    • @Blurred__dots
      @Blurred__dots Před 2 dny +36

      @@Zramy understand that radahn is taking back shots from the miquelester

  • @bananadoppiotm1088
    @bananadoppiotm1088 Před 2 dny +409

    They called me a madman…CURSE YOU, BAYLE

    • @JEREMAIAHJONES
      @JEREMAIAHJONES Před 2 dny +14

      im homeless and my couple broke up with me... CUUURSEEEE YOOOUUU BAAAYLEEEE!!!

    • @erikreber3695
      @erikreber3695 Před 2 dny +14

      Best DLC NPC hands down...

    • @harrkkptuiih
      @harrkkptuiih Před 2 dny +4

      i don't have a steady job,and my cat crap inside my shoe...CURSE YOU!!! BAYLEEE!!!!

    • @Messmer-the-impaler-
      @Messmer-the-impaler- Před dnem

      @@erikreber3695no he’s not

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia Před dnem +2

      best NPC in the DLC.

  • @BrvtusVG
    @BrvtusVG Před 2 dny +145

    The Messmer dialogue sounds like different line readings from the same actor, which is standard practice.

    • @padrenuestre
      @padrenuestre Před dnem +5

      no it's two different voice actors (forgot the names haha)

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Před 2 dny +417

    Miquella in Elden Ring: *Best Boi*
    Miquella in Shadow of Erdtree: *Griffith wannabe who wants Radahn as his Guts*

    • @NathanTruby
      @NathanTruby Před 2 dny +109

      He wants Radahn to scramble his guts

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před 2 dny +55

      to be fair we already knew about his charming powers and people already speculated that he might've seduced Mohg with it

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +8

      ​@@kimashitawa8113I had always thought that it was more a sort of collateral and passive power available to Miquella who clearly could infatuate said whoever he wanted to make the advent of his order easier but while he wandered under the guise of Santa Trina who meets Mohg perhaps to study the power of the formless mother to better understand the nature of the external gods in order to exorcise them and the omen ended up a victim of the power of the demigod or Miquella himself used it to obtain what he wanted

    • @darkprime6815
      @darkprime6815 Před 2 dny +16

      ​@@somebody4094 pretty sure there's lore bits pointing towards miquella using his powers to get mogh to kidnap him. Also miquella is a dude

    • @pokgeila
      @pokgeila Před 2 dny +11

      @@darkprime6815 But how does that fit with the Haligtree, did he just let the haligtree die and doomed Malenia just to become a God?

  • @ALaz502
    @ALaz502 Před 2 dny +29

    I think they wanted to actually merge the maps at the end but couldnt due to tech limitations.
    Hence why the veil is gone in that cutscene.

  • @mrpresedin3534
    @mrpresedin3534 Před 2 dny +85

    The bow probably radahn lion bow which is absent here.
    Miquella is a golden order fundamentalism who is known for creating many amazing weapon including enchant it.
    Like the miquelan knught sword.
    Pulley bow and crossbow. And etc
    Miquella also shown with three arms which supposed to be four but the missing one is st trina.
    Knowing radahn size it would be normal to assume at certain point miquella will using a bow to support radahn

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +1

      or a divine bow for his consort

    • @alexv1154
      @alexv1154 Před 2 dny +4

      *was a golden order fundementalist

    • @Livan-yuruikami
      @Livan-yuruikami Před 2 dny

      Radahn was also a great archer so it may be for him, miquella isn't strong physically he always used incantations ans using a bow require a lot of strenght

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +2

      @@Livan-yuruikami it could be a wedding gift, in her family it was quite common to give weapons during the wedding take the moon blade that rennala gave to radagon

    • @Livan-yuruikami
      @Livan-yuruikami Před 2 dny +3

      @@somebody4094 true, but this thing was specific to Caria we never heard such a thing in the golden order so idk

  • @nikosuarez2021
    @nikosuarez2021 Před 2 dny +30

    Malenia and Miquella are the characters with the most cut content that would lead to a more interesting story that they gave us from both of them. you can't change My Mind

    • @jonangulo673
      @jonangulo673 Před dnem +6

      The reaally love to give us characters with a lot of potential, lore and possibilities (includin St Trina) only to use them in the most boring way possible.

  • @Writh811
    @Writh811 Před 2 dny +127

    Hmmm... I think they changed the dialogue because it was waaaaay too close to Ranni's speech in her ending. At first I thought this was a troll video because it starts exactly the same as Ranni's speech. As to the changes in Messmer's voice it still sounds like the same actor but for the trailer they used clean audio and for the ingame they added echo and such to reflect the sound bouncing around the room.
    I also for the first time noticed when the original cutscene is playing when Miquella puts his face near Radahn as he says "Yield the path to us" Radahn looks down and away... like... shame or embarrassment or disappointment. Perhaps this small gesture is meant to be another fearther in the "unwilling Radahn" theory cap.

    • @Voice_of_p
      @Voice_of_p Před 2 dny +1

      Well spotted

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +11

      radhan Is not even completely there Just his soul twisted into someone else body

    • @darkprime6815
      @darkprime6815 Před 2 dny +6

      I think radahn in more so looking down to stare at miquella's arms wrapped around his neck but it still likes like he might be doing it out some negative emotion

    • @kaah5823
      @kaah5823 Před 2 dny +11

      The VA for Messmer is the same. I don't think the voice being clear is the only difference, but rather the tone. In the trailer version Messmer sounds a bit sarcastic as if he's mocking the player , as for the game version he sounds more dusappointed, like he's a bit hurt

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +2

      @@darkprime6815 radhan has no mind he's Just a puppet puppeted by miquella

  • @someoneinasia
    @someoneinasia Před 2 dny +97

    i was like: wait that's it? no ending cutscene, nothing?
    as you said, in the trailer miquella remove the veils that cover the land of shadow, presumably returning the land of shadow to the lands between. i was expecting that kind of an exiting ending but what we got is a disappointing abrupt end.

    • @hylianglitchmobber7570
      @hylianglitchmobber7570 Před 2 dny +31

      I couldn't agree more. I kept thinking I must have missed something after the fight was over but all I could find was that lame 10 second cutscene of Miquella doing absolutely nothing

    • @Soap010
      @Soap010 Před 2 dny +14

      yes it was disappointing but kinda in a good way. ymir explains how the greater will abandoned the fingers and by extension the whole of the lands between. this reveals everything done in the base game did not mean anything and was without true purpose. thats a major revelation and one that leaves such empty feelings that i gotta say its masterful. still yeah i finished it and was like ".... all that fucking trouble for an almost black and white scene?" not a bad feeling tho

    • @azrieldalusong5042
      @azrieldalusong5042 Před 2 dny +3

      If they plan making a sequel or another DLC I hope they don't do that shit again.

    • @hylianglitchmobber7570
      @hylianglitchmobber7570 Před 2 dny +4

      @@azrieldalusong5042 sadly Fromsoft have stated that they have no plans after Shadow of the Erdtree to ever revisit The Lands Between in the form of a sequel or a DLC. They did hint towards the possibility of an animated show/movie though.

    • @ZeroYami
      @ZeroYami Před 2 dny +4

      what if they add it in as a post release update, like with the nepheli loux questline?

  • @andregregory1663
    @andregregory1663 Před 2 dny +14

    I liked Messmer better in the final version and he turned out to be my favorite character of the dlc. He basically accepted being the Devil, the one who should look after Hell; like Hades did in Greek myth, for his mother's sake, for her Land to function, the counterpart of Marika's paradise.

  • @somebody4094
    @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +46

    originally, at least according to insiders and leakers, two DLCs for Elden Ring were thought of but due to the leaks themselves and probably internal choices following these, in the end it was decided to publish everything compacted into a single expansion and probably a lot of the material was lost lost in the fusion of the two ideas and assets retained by the various projects can still be found

    • @akicauchemar7286
      @akicauchemar7286 Před 2 dny +7

      Old Hunters all over again

    • @MikeL-eo9lp
      @MikeL-eo9lp Před 2 dny +1

      😡

    • @vegitoda4738
      @vegitoda4738 Před dnem +5

      ​@@akicauchemar7286 Yeah but Old hunters rounded up things nicely despite it. This DLC doesn't even address half of the questions from the base game and just leaves us with more.

    • @vaati.etrenia
      @vaati.etrenia Před dnem

      *Cries in lack of answers because of shortened DLC*
      This also explains why some things feel really like they have nothing to do there at all and why we still have so many questions

  • @NathanTruby
    @NathanTruby Před 2 dny +142

    I hope they do another smaller DLC that addresses the major loose ends like the gloam eyed queen, godwyn and Melina as a whole

    • @AJDC_5
      @AJDC_5 Před 2 dny +16

      Who knows, maybe there will be something like Elden Ring 2 some years down the road.

    • @JyotiDeka1989
      @JyotiDeka1989 Před 2 dny +20

      We need Elden Ring 2 not another DLC.

    • @NathanTruby
      @NathanTruby Před 2 dny +28

      @JyotiDeka1989 oh trust me, I want a sequel just as bad as you do, but Fromsoft has a history of making standalone titles when it comes to their soulslike games.
      Dark Souls is an exception to this since it was originally supposed to be standalone, but they were pushed by Sony to make sequels.

    • @SimplCup
      @SimplCup Před 2 dny +11

      @@NathanTruby Pushed by Sony? But dark souls' publisher was bandai namco and fromsoftware jp

    • @Akd6869
      @Akd6869 Před 2 dny +13

      Also characters like malenia's blind mentor, the forrmless mother, the fell god, placidusax's god, etc. Also, rykard is heavily hinted to be still alive and has room to make a comeback. And there are a whole bunch of mentioned characters who we never see in game

  • @GuildmasterMuri
    @GuildmasterMuri Před 2 dny +36

    I really dont understand some of from's decisions when it comes to what should be cut content and what shouldnt be. Like sometimes they just straight up keep something more interesting than the final product because of... whatever reason they have

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +7

      miyazaki explicitly wishes that the story is not perfectly understandable and that some dark elements remain, he most likely traces the entire story, has all the dialogue dubbed, then flips a coin and chooses what to cut to make everything as dark as possible

  • @vail2367
    @vail2367 Před 2 dny +89

    Bro had infinite health vs Radahn 💀

  • @Pennybags37
    @Pennybags37 Před 2 dny +63

    I would not be surprised if at some point in development there was some meant to be some supposed Age of Compassion ending, as this speech she gives almost exactly mirrors the one Ranni gives in the Age of the Stars ending cutscene. The description for the Circlet of Light even mentions that it would've been the basis for her mending rune. It could've been that an Age of Compassion ending was intended early on in the development and that they repurposed it for Promised Consort, Radahn before just scrapping the whole thing and recording new lines.

    • @porcelainpup
      @porcelainpup Před 2 dny +37

      Quick reminder that Miquella is male.

    • @diegootero1686
      @diegootero1686 Před 2 dny +1

      @@porcelainpup And?

    • @MrTavrosNitram
      @MrTavrosNitram Před 2 dny +22

      @@diegootero1686 meaning he uses he and him

    • @diegootero1686
      @diegootero1686 Před 2 dny +11

      @@MrTavrosNitram Nvm I just saw what he meant. It was probably a mistake, I doubt anyone thinks Miq is a she.

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +15

      ​@@diegootero1686you sure might be surprised to say there are people who are convinced that Gwyndolin is trans

  • @beans9532
    @beans9532 Před 2 dny +12

    I like the cut dialogue for miquella more. Reminds me of the Vaati lore dive on miquella. He talks about cut content as well, about how miquella wants all things to flourish whether good or “rotted” and how he’s considered “the god of abundance”

  • @GrayCatbird1
    @GrayCatbird1 Před dnem +3

    It's fascinating how it's an almost one-to-one repeat of Ranni's end dialogue, but talking about compassion and love rather than cold and distance. Basically highlighting that both have similar intents, but different paths to achieve it.

  • @TheSOGchronicles
    @TheSOGchronicles Před 2 dny +5

    The bow might have been something akin to the bewitching branch maybe instead of a grab miqulla was gonna fire branches at the player to charm them

  • @zhebanelm1755
    @zhebanelm1755 Před 2 dny +4

    Regarding the bow: It's possible that it could have originally be meant to reference the "Rider on the White Horse" from Revelation. The rider carries a bow, but is not seen with any arrows. He is given a crown, and he goes out to conquer.
    This rider is never named, but the symbolism of a bow with no arrows seems to reference that the conqueror will rule not by warfare but by compassion (at least initially).
    Perhaps Miquella was going to be similar as he wants to conquer through love (despite the hypocrisy of choosing a warmonger as his consort), but From decided that the imagery was a little too on the nose.

  • @TrippyTimesTwo
    @TrippyTimesTwo Před 2 dny +7

    Interesting theories to accompany this. Several areas appear to be combined elements of previous games DLC and thematic environments, suggesting a LOT of content cutting - hence why a variety of areas in the DLC sometimes feel oddly empty.
    If Miquella’s story remained relatively unchanged, it would be pretty scary - a thousand year voyage, guided by compassion - which was discarded along with St. Trina (called love on the cross near the grace). 1000 years guided by love, headed by a god that has discarded love. Terrifying.

  • @AuburnFall_
    @AuburnFall_ Před 2 dny +6

    That first piece of dialogue, it’s just like rannis in her ending, shit about to make me get into making mods to make that dialogue attached to a new great rune and ending option for the base game, I have coding experience but it’d take some time to figure out how to make it work

  • @crew_the3rd
    @crew_the3rd Před dnem +2

    Messmers trailer voice was so mesmerizing, I loved it.
    Miyazaki is so respectful that he published both voice actors.

  • @eBlas15
    @eBlas15 Před 2 dny +17

    have you seen that if you don't advance the main story and not burn eldtrer, Guideon has dialogue about miquella now

    • @eBlas15
      @eBlas15 Před 2 dny +5

      well after you go to shadow of the erdtree

    • @raghav1026
      @raghav1026 Před 2 dny +1

      Oh really? That's interesting

    • @florianchabaud8548
      @florianchabaud8548 Před 2 dny

      Really? I went to talk to him in NG+ after beating the DLC a second time and he had nothing new to say :/

    • @eBlas15
      @eBlas15 Před 2 dny +1

      @@florianchabaud8548 I haven't beaten the dlc, going slowly but steady lol. it's a little of script talking about miquella and wondering the location as the other demigods. I did record with the Xbox but not sure we're to post either way lol.

    • @namelessiam7792
      @namelessiam7792 Před dnem +7

      ​@@eBlas15 that's nothing new, he says that in the base game .

  • @IchbinX
    @IchbinX Před 2 dny +55

    Miquella Before: "I'm here big bwotha! uWu tarnished, pwease wet us win!"
    Miquella Cut: *balls drops* "I am done being a little b-. You will accept love, whether you like it, or not!"

    • @DamothMaykr1942
      @DamothMaykr1942 Před 2 dny +6

      Which is absolutely ironic, Coming from a God that abandoned his capacity to love

    • @somebody4094
      @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +6

      @@DamothMaykr1942 in order to turn the world into a place of pure love

    • @brendancoulter5761
      @brendancoulter5761 Před 2 dny

      I dont think Miquella will ever not be a little bitch.

    • @DamothMaykr1942
      @DamothMaykr1942 Před 2 dny +1

      @@somebody4094 I like the term “ No one that is kind actively calls themselves kind. “ so imma do him like I did his sister once I get far enough and free the homie Radahn’s soul from that femboy siren of a god

  • @somebody4094
    @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +12

    the bow is clearly gwyndolin time

  • @debiluspegus8236
    @debiluspegus8236 Před 2 dny +18

    An important question, is there any trace of godwyn content in the cut content that the community found? Because I refuse to believe that he wasn't supposed to be a major point of the dlc

  • @hamzakerdi8227
    @hamzakerdi8227 Před 2 dny +6

    Also the gameplay trailer ost got changed which is in dlc play during rellana boss fight

  • @Micolashcage1
    @Micolashcage1 Před 2 dny +46

    Tell us the truth GOE. you made the final boss

  • @onizuka
    @onizuka Před 2 dny +8

    cut content is 1 thing, mistranslated dialog and text is another.
    "shaman village", when it has a deeper meaning...jp it's shrine maiden /miko village

  • @marianomur4107
    @marianomur4107 Před 2 dny +4

    can someone tell me if failling to defeat radahn and let him grab you by miquella 2 times and then winning the game without trying to kill him again unlocks another possible ending, or maybe beating miquella and winning the game with his crown let you unlock something else?

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer Před 2 dny +2

    They cut Jarburg and later gave it to us, who's to say they're not withholding more to polish and release later again?

  • @debiluspegus8236
    @debiluspegus8236 Před 2 dny +28

    I have a question, do we have any traces of godwyn in cut content? Because I refuse to believe that he wasn't supposed to play a major role in the dlc

    • @Tau_Aquila
      @Tau_Aquila Před 2 dny +16

      I feel like they cut godwyn out of the dlc and just replaced him with radahn instead which feels shoehorned imo

    • @Galaxy-jy9wl
      @Galaxy-jy9wl Před 2 dny +18

      @@Tau_Aquila godwyn is dead dead

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Před 2 dny +3

      ​@@Galaxy-jy9wl well he is dead and not dead at the same time

    • @Tau_Aquila
      @Tau_Aquila Před 2 dny +15

      @Galaxy-jy9wl yea and the lore around miquella in the base game is constantly talking about miquella trying everything he can to bring him back and he got extremely close the only reason it failed was because the eclipse was haunted by radahn (making them established enemies in the base game)

    • @christopherlyndsay8611
      @christopherlyndsay8611 Před 2 dny +10

      The presence of the death knights make his absence even weirder imo

  • @Angel-pz8cq
    @Angel-pz8cq Před 22 hodinami +1

    Its fascinating to me that Miquella's cut cutscene has parallels to Ranni's cutscene (Age of Stars) where she says "I solemnly swear to every living being, and every living soul, now cometh the age of the stars, A thousand year voyage under the wisdom of the Moon. Here beginneth the chill night that encompasses all, reaching the great beyond." which is similar in words to Miquella's "I hereby swear. to every living being and every living soul. now comes the age of our Eden. a thousand year voyage guided by compassion, beginning here, love encompasses all" And I also wonder if maybe that cutscene where Miquella raises his hand over an unveiled Scadutree, seemingly causing it to pulse with light, might be some sort of ending or choice where The Lands Between, and The Realm of Shadow are restored to what they once were, as overlapping both maps and scaling the shadowlands a bit perfectly aligns them like puzzle pieces. I wonder if maybe there was a choice between fighting Miquella and keeping the lands separate, or if you could join his cause and reunite the realms. This would be supported by our ability to side with Leda vs the others at certain points in the game and by Miquella's claim that "No living things will be denied, no deed censured. I am ready. to embrace the whole of it"

  • @CrashBandicootFan100
    @CrashBandicootFan100 Před 2 dny +2

    My guess is in Mesmer's trailer dialogue is a take where he's talking to her statue during the transformation cutscene-

  • @guperman8249
    @guperman8249 Před 2 dny +2

    this alternitive dialogue for Miquella mimics the things Ranni says at the end of the base game when choising her ending

  • @Esponea_482
    @Esponea_482 Před 2 dny +7

    I remember hearing these lines after someone gave me his voice files, but even still it’s very neat that he says all this :3

  • @Vitemcpipe
    @Vitemcpipe Před 2 dny +16

    I think the reason they scrapped the line for Marika is that they didn't want the players to know that ending-wise, Marika was trying to do the same thing as Ranni with the reference to the 1000 years and all and ridding the world reigned by gods, the only difference being that Ranni wants everyone to have the freedom of being, whilst Marika wants to be a god of kindness. Ranni just wants everyone not to be controlled by god but knows that if her reign last forever she will be no different than a god. Marika's 1000 years of kindness has no lore reason as to why she wants 1000 years, she wants the world to have compassion, kindness and all that, forever, but she doesn't know that if she turns into a god, she have to force people who don't want kindness and compassion to be so, and that is no different than a god, even if it's the moral good thing to do.

    • @Razhork
      @Razhork Před 2 dny +9

      Miquella still says that if you get grabbed during the fight. A thousand year voyage of compassion.

    • @Vitemcpipe
      @Vitemcpipe Před 2 dny

      @@Razhork oh that’s not me pointing it out, that’s me asking why she made it into 1000 years. Sorry for the confusion.

    • @McNugge.
      @McNugge. Před dnem

      ​@@Vitemcpipe
      1. IT'S MIQUELLA
      2. Miquella is a dude
      3. He's not even forcing it, where is your source?
      Aside from being a -50IQ person and screeching the last thing the dude before you said? How about yall start thinking around the corner?
      Ranni's ending is in no shape or form better. Rac ism will still prevail, and after the 1.000 years, she will come back and probably be the sole God of the Lands between. How is that any better?😂
      Leaving a world so rotten, to leave everyone, fending for themselves....Yeah, no, thats not a good ending.....

  • @somebody4094
    @somebody4094 Před 2 dny +6

    2:55 a part of this dialogue still is in the game, when radhan grabs you miquella may say the line about the voyage
    still it remind me the ranni's ending dialogue about the thoused years etch

  • @Games4Days912
    @Games4Days912 Před 2 dny +19

    Radahn loved WAR. He wouldn't give 2 shits about the age of compassion. Dude is a monster.

    • @bombthing
      @bombthing Před 2 dny +10

      I imagine Radahn said something like "Age of compassion? Ha! Over my dead body!" And Miquella and Malenia took it literally

    • @Games4Days912
      @Games4Days912 Před 2 dny

      @bombthing for real. Guy loved to fight. Miquella using him for love and peace is against what he was all about. Wish we could have killed HIM AND SAVED RADAHN SOMEHOW! SMH

    • @Siureivax
      @Siureivax Před dnem

      That could be the reason why he recanted his promise with Miquella. Ideology difference and probably his condition rendering him as eternal child lol

    • @Primalintent
      @Primalintent Před dnem +9

      Radahn fought in like, one war. There's no evidence he aided in the war against the Giants, the war against the Dragons, or any other major war before the Shattering.
      He's defined by his men's loyalty to him, his love of animals, and the command over the stars (implied to be defensive action taken to stop the Fallingstar Beasts and Astels). Radahn is a compassionate boy who spent all his time preparing to be ready for war and when he finally got the war he wanted it was against his own family.
      And he choked. His most famous battle was a standstill with Malenia, and the opening cinematic of the game shows him getting stomped by Morgott. And I would wager he choked because he never really wanted war, he just wanted to be a hero.
      Regardless, Consort Radahn is a meat puppet.

    • @gluelake
      @gluelake Před dnem

      @@Primalintent lol Freyja his personal guard literally told us Radahn loved war. He can be kind to his men, his family, but a warlord he remains.

  • @domin8tion651
    @domin8tion651 Před 2 dny +4

    WHAT IS THAT FROSTBITE WATERFOWL???

    • @ItsMeStrider
      @ItsMeStrider Před dnem

      Fr wtf was that weapon art it looks nothing like star lined katana art

  • @DrnMontemayor
    @DrnMontemayor Před 2 dny

    We already have that information in description and other bits of dialogue.

  • @clurtzy
    @clurtzy Před 2 dny +4

    dude was hit by almost every attack

  • @AppleFrogTomatoFace
    @AppleFrogTomatoFace Před 2 dny +1

    i saw someone speculating we might be able to get miquella ending for the main story, and that cut miquella dialog sounds like that ending dialog. but idk how cut content works, so if you discover as cut content is it impossible to happen in main game? if that is the case maybe they had plan for miquella ending and scrapped it.

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj Před 2 dny +1

    That makes sense. What Miq said is what an emperian says to take over Marika's legacy. He didn't want that. He wanted to start his own separate from Marika.

  • @Zacharadus
    @Zacharadus Před 2 dny +1

    Just a thought, but maybe the bow in Miquella's hand is actually a run arc, like the one portrayed in the cutscene where Marika is holding onto the rune arcs at the Divinity Gate? And maybe if that's true, it may be an indication that they used Marika's model to develop Miquella and therefore have artifacts from that in Miquella's cutscene animation. Just wild speculation.

  • @HahahMamaman
    @HahahMamaman Před 2 dny +2

    Is the background gameplay recorded in godmode, because if not I need the build asap.

  • @nathanmercado3064
    @nathanmercado3064 Před 2 dny +1

    Holy shit I never noticed they actually changed Messmer's voice🤯🤯That's crazy

  • @R4v3nB14ck
    @R4v3nB14ck Před 2 dny +2

    Bro there's a frame at 6:29 that looks so fuckin epic

  • @garretwilliam3409
    @garretwilliam3409 Před dnem +1

    I feel if he used the bow he would’ve shot one in the sky and then those light beams he uses would come down or that’s at least the first thing that came to my head when the bow was mentioned lol

  • @Haydentrudyjones
    @Haydentrudyjones Před 2 dny +1

    The cut alternate version does worlds more to inform and intrigue me

  • @69belhaven
    @69belhaven Před 2 dny

    A bit of the cut content is used for his grab attack.

  • @JinjoBread
    @JinjoBread Před 2 dny

    Perhaps the bow model is used for his spare set of ghostly arms he places around his dearest brother?

  • @The29Dave
    @The29Dave Před 2 dny +42

    At this point I'm convinced Miyazaki just cuts out shit at random to artificially make his games seem more mysterious.

    • @hatefulgaming1800
      @hatefulgaming1800 Před 2 dny +9

      Honestly people will deny this but I the souls games aren’t made with a full story in mind, the point of everything being left open is for people to decide for themselves what’s happening.

    • @TREVORVADER
      @TREVORVADER Před 2 dny +6

      Seriously. Like especially considering you can find so much cut content in this game that fills gaps or puts things in a new perspective I always wonder why they gut the lore so badly for final releases.

    • @Wytchphyre
      @Wytchphyre Před dnem

      ​@@TREVORVADER because we all talk about it. It drives comments on social media like wildfire.

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 Před dnem +2

      yes but no.. pretty sure it was meant as two dlcs and it was smashed together. Also the dlc only had a bit over a year of development time.. remember there was no dlc plans until after the major patches finished for the base game

  • @GilangD21
    @GilangD21 Před 2 dny

    I love the cut one because its also work as a wedding vow, and emphasis that we are interrupted their wedding procession

  • @gameplaysale60
    @gameplaysale60 Před 2 dny

    The thing I am confuse it's that in the trailer shows Miquella scene and that did not appear but everything else show it's in the dlc
    So maybe it's there,but there special condition to get maybe

  • @DarknessIsTheTruth
    @DarknessIsTheTruth Před 2 dny +1

    I'd like to see somebody mod the Scadutree Blessing system into the base game. Would be pretty neat, I think.

  • @valentinoosti9980
    @valentinoosti9980 Před dnem +1

    The cut one is soo better

  • @lucianoarrieta5786
    @lucianoarrieta5786 Před 2 dny +1

    Your attack with the Katana is it a new Ash of War or is it a mod?🤔

  • @cygnuss7740
    @cygnuss7740 Před dnem

    The cut dialogue is SO MUCH BETTER A

  • @Archontasil
    @Archontasil Před dnem

    The cut audio is alternate ending where we marry miquella. It's similar to when we took rani's hand

  • @bagabool
    @bagabool Před dnem +1

    bro, whats ur first weap that does the ice ash of war

  • @van_tigranyan
    @van_tigranyan Před 2 dny +1

    Interesting that it is very similar to Ranni's dialogue

  • @hivekin
    @hivekin Před 2 dny +8

    miquella MIGHT be cupid with that bow

  • @danween
    @danween Před 2 dny

    it’s funny how the cut lines from Miquella are so similar to Ranni’s ending

  • @AlexAegisOfficial
    @AlexAegisOfficial Před 2 dny +1

    Scadu is pronounced simply as shadow, it's old english.

  • @kevinrica36
    @kevinrica36 Před dnem

    Has anyone tried going back to the base game and kill radabeast after getting hugged twice? The cut dialogue sounds like the narration for a new alternate ending. We might get a new ending after getting hugged twice?

  • @thelurkerbel0w
    @thelurkerbel0w Před 2 dny +5

    FromSoft: "Yes this story line is perfect! Cut it."

  • @samuelbrown7466
    @samuelbrown7466 Před 2 dny

    Bow is probably just st.trinas bow or miquellas own bow while shooting st.trina arrows

  • @elia0162
    @elia0162 Před dnem

    This enhance my thoughts about radahn being a last minute boss

  • @willow7380
    @willow7380 Před dnem

    I hope there’s an update that adds more like that cutscene and etc

  • @grapenut6094
    @grapenut6094 Před dnem +2

    Whats that ash of war you used at 0:53

  • @christiannuzzo7227
    @christiannuzzo7227 Před 2 dny

    the miquella cutscene with the scadutree might have something to do with his great rune, but got cut since we aren't supposed to see that as the player character

  • @CheezburgerSub
    @CheezburgerSub Před dnem

    Anybody else notice miquella is making a part of 'brand of sacrifice" from berserk? If he had his other arm, it would be identical

  • @liqqidsurgegaming2970

    Has anyone tried not killing them and going back to the end of the base came and seeing if there is a secret end. 🧐

  • @Kevin0479
    @Kevin0479 Před dnem

    When i defeated messmer and got to the giant chalise inthought we were going to burn down the the shadowtree too but inwas a bit disappointed that it doesnt do anything, it just made me think then its a dark souls reference beeing the lord vessel.

  • @jubee7630
    @jubee7630 Před dnem

    This dialog is what he said when u got hug

  • @tapiocajack3004
    @tapiocajack3004 Před 2 dny

    Maybe that why he have 4 arm, 2 for hugging and 2 for bow

  • @slayerman517
    @slayerman517 Před dnem

    What sword art or sword is that in the start that your making a whole bubble of sword swings

  • @mikerowavezz
    @mikerowavezz Před dnem

    It's labeled gloam-eyed knight. Does not guarantee connection with the gloam-eyed queen, depending on whatever gloam actually represents.

  • @skyfall5335
    @skyfall5335 Před 2 dny +2

    1:06 am i tripping or is the moon and fire stance effect still going even when doing normal attacks?? how is this possible

    • @livelouie2436
      @livelouie2436 Před 2 dny

      That's what I'm trying to figure out I use that weapon but it doesn't do that for me

    • @spaceman4286
      @spaceman4286 Před 2 dny +3

      he is playing modded

  • @starrunner2838
    @starrunner2838 Před dnem

    This sounds like an ending cutscene

  • @soltonali4481
    @soltonali4481 Před dnem

    also leda had a lot of stuff that she said in the trailers that are not in the game

  • @kellyjohnson4768
    @kellyjohnson4768 Před 2 dny

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet but the cut dialogue sounds more like St Trina than Miquella

  • @PolluxStrike
    @PolluxStrike Před 2 dny +2

    Yeah the cut dialogue is better.

  • @sticky0159
    @sticky0159 Před dnem

    The final cutscene used sounds more of Miquella and what he is known for, luring and attraction of people while that cut content cutscene sounds more like his mother Marika rather than Miquella so understandably the final cutscene is more in line to how Miquella acts rather than be something that is almost like his mother.

  • @danjfe1348
    @danjfe1348 Před 3 hodinami

    I like this Dlc a lot, in the original game the "great" player is ranni she has a plan and put the world in motion, but the Dlc show two "great" players more. Miquella that also has a plan,and Marika, showing were she comes from how does she ascent to godhod, her vengeance and how her past greatly affects her, how Marika made a mistake by becoming a subordinate god (or a caged divinity that can't save anyone) and ended up revolting and shattering the elden ring ,and why miquella discard his emotions to not commit the same mistakes and be kind to everyone.

  • @AbdoHany9
    @AbdoHany9 Před 2 dny +1

    what's the name of that freeze weapon u use at first clip btw?

  • @mrfujikaze
    @mrfujikaze Před 2 dny

    if you consider ranni's ending speech mioquella is almost a cosmological reflection of her

  • @crew_the3rd
    @crew_the3rd Před dnem +5

    Miquella is the best option for the Lands Between. Formsoft characters are never 100% moral, nor innocent, nor perfect. But Miquella is the closest thing to a good ruler that has ever been offered to the Lands Between. His methods are the most reasonable compared to the wrath, hatred, prejudice, and blood lust of all other rulers. Including us, the tarnished, we are the bad guys in this war too, our path would destroy the Lands' only hope for lasting compassionate peace.
    Miquella's great rune charm is an overall positive power. The charm helps people let go of the evil within; if someone wanted revenge they can now settle for forgiveness, if someone was prejudice they can now tolerate others, and if someone had lust for blood shed they can now seek love. Miquella brought out the best version of each person, gave them love, and gave them hope.
    During our fight we had the power to resist Miquella's charm and so do many other characters like Messmer. There still is a choice to reject Miquella but 99% of people will be more attracted to what he offers than what they currently have, most people will agree with Miquella, because what he offers is valuable to them. Haters try to simply this process to simple brainwashing but it is not that crude nor sinister.
    Mohg wanted Miquella to bring the mother of blood dynasty, Miquella offered him something better. To assume that Mohg is innocent of kidnapping Miquella is a not necessarily. Two things can be true, at the same time, with these complex characters. Mohg was all about blood sacrifices so it's possible that he is ok with helping Miquella in this way, to be the vessel of Radahn's spirit, this is not a tragic end.
    Radahn was a proud and powerful warrior. By his standards he could not simply die, he had to die in glorious battle. Miquella tried to satisfy this honor by asking Malenia to go to war with Radahn, they were both too powerful for each other, so stalemate persisted until the tarnished rose.
    Miquella then sent Melina to persuade a tarnished to help in his plans. Most of the work had been done my Malenia and we come to finish off Radahn in honorable battle.
    Long ago Radahn promised to be lord and consort to Miquella. The reign of Miquella has all the good aspects of the Golden Order but with out the shunning of the graceless. Miquella extends grace and blessing to all in the Lands. Radahn would find it easy to support Miquella's Order because it is just a better version of the Golden Order. His loyalty would remain. consistent.
    Haters of Miquella will see these events in a sinister filter, this is unreasonable because there is a more honorable way to except what Miquella planned. Each one of these characters have good reasons to give Miquella a chance, the Charm helps but it's a positive help, not sinister.
    When Miquella divulged his love, it was specifically his love of self that died. He is still clearly able to love Radahn and showing compassion to an entire kingdom clearly communicates love. Saint Trina seeks to protect Miquella from the bondage of being a deity, that is self-love. Miquella had to let go of what was good for himself to obtain the power to serve everyone in his kingdom. Clearly he has sacrificed just as much as his flowers sacrificed to obtain compassion, leading by example.

  • @lucexantus628
    @lucexantus628 Před dnem

    What is the ash of war you were using with the ice katana

  • @mak680
    @mak680 Před 2 dny

    A little off topic but what armor is he wearing in the video? I don't think I've seen that head armor piece yet

  • @ShadyOakMinistries
    @ShadyOakMinistries Před 2 dny +24

    The idea of Miquella having a bow might actually be a huge Bible reference. In Revelation 6, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are a callback to the book of Zechariah when spiritual entities are reporting and influencing global politics. The first of the riders is a white rider holding a bow, and later passages in chapter 13 clarify it will be through the promise of false peace. If that is the idea they had in mind, it's pretty hardcore they'd have people who did their homework enough include that little detail about the biggest baddie in Elden Ring and the introduction of the Antichrist.

  • @carlotzin56
    @carlotzin56 Před 2 dny

    The Messmer lines were probably done intentionally to mislead people. Same with the "lost" cutscene with Miquella in front of the Shadow tree.