Boarding Stable EMERGENCY... Can I Help Them?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Ryan helps a barn manager handle an ex-stallion horse that has become a safety issue for her staff.
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I cannot thank Ryan enough for his help!! This horse has made a complete turn around since this session and is adjusting very well and all employees are able to safely handle him!!! Thanks again Ryan!!!!!
So glad he's adjusting well! I, too, work at a large boarding facility and see all kinds of horses come in, especially the ones who aren't handled much. It doesn't make the turnout/turn in process easy if one gets like this guy did. Hope he continues to progress and live a happy retirement with you.
Very nice Vannessa.
That's fantastic!
Húge appreciation for yourself for doing what's right for the horse, your employees , your boarders ! This is something most wouldn't take on , they would just move him along ... , So kudos to you , what a great stable !
@@kristiwetsel9531 thank you so much! It was a decision I went back forth on (to put the stable out there like this) but ultimately I did not want to move him along. I wanted what was best for him as well as our facility and Ryan delivered!! So happy I made the call and went though with it:)
I would think him being a stud his entire life, not being used and most likely being segregated from other horses has a lot to do with this. Poor guy is now finally in a natural herd situation and thinks that he needs to protect his herd ALONG with the anxiety of his buddies leaving him. Perfect example of the mental issues that comes with keeping a stallion essentially quarantined and not treating them like horses.
Agree. He seems like a good boy otherwise.
@@eveningstar1 I agree, he had a lot of try, even in the barn, he settled quicker than I thought he would.
100%!
I have had my stallion for 8 years since he was 5. He’s lovely partly because I turn him out with my other 3. Herd dynamic is really important. Let horses be horses!
That horse looks quite intelligent and sensitive as well. I'm also surprised for a horse gelded so late that he's not aggressive or bitey or overwhelming. I didn't catch hold old he is.
That looks like a great stable! I love how the manager/owner is so interested in helping this horse (and is willing to take him on for his elderly owners). She also mentioned how she’s concerned that her staff is safe while handling this horse. I think she’s really generous and must run a great barn!
I’m glad the boarding stable is willing to work with the horse/owners, so many managers would blame the horse and tell the owners to move on, which never fixes the problem. Ryan, as always your timing is impeccable and techniques are stellar! Thanks for sharing this video with us!
I Agree 💯, I’m always glad when people are willing to ask for help. Thank you 😊
Hello , Sir . Being a trainer for horse-back riding (working with kids , trying to keep them safe on the ponies / horses) , I need to say thank you to you for helping me to avoid accidents . Please keep telling and showing me how to improve horse behavior . I refer your channel to my students . - Greetings from Germany 🙂👍🏇🏇🏇 .
Watching this in person was super interesting and helpful. I was the girl also trying to catch my horse out in the pasture, the one in the purple otter blanket and ridiculous holographic tailbag. Ryan also gave me advice and I have had no issues catching him ever since I started applying his method. My horse has *always* been hard to catch, and he’s 20 so it’s been kinda ingrained in his brain, but has been a blessing lately about letting me catch him.
Thank you Ryan!
Respect to the stable owner for reaching out for help from the best (Ryan). Also, filming this benefits so many people and horses. Thanks!
I think he's a nice horse. Sad that he is older and is finally getting a little training. Because he seems really kind hearted. Very good corrective techniques.
Our hard to catch mule wears a breakaway neck collar that we can get ahold of before putting on his halter. He now actually "presents" the neck collar for us to grab and he gets his treats when he does so. Haltering has gotten so much easier
I love seeing you work with horses in real time, rather than just showing the end result. I could see a lot of try in the old boy in the arena, and how quickly he could change in a different environment. I also loved seeing how you never lost patience, but just worked with him where he was at. Yield the hindquarters is going to end up being my mantra. I see how well it worked to get him focused again, and now understand the circles. When I was taught how to handle a pushy horse, I was told to go in circles. I cannot begin to tell you how many circles I did with my first horse (a very high strung older Peruvian). I wish I had known about yielding then. I know it now, but never connected circles with yielding until I saw this video. I am always learning, and you are easy to understand and learn from. Thank you so much for your videos.
I notice she is moving backwards when he comes into her space. You keep your feet planted and move HIS feet. She needs to maybe be a bit more assertive and keep her ground when he pushes into her. I know, easy for me to say, lol!
Reminds me of an old saying: you tell a gelding, you ask a mare, you negotiate with a stallion.
And pray if it's a pony!
You have to ask my gelding, you can’t tell him. He will just get stubborn otherwise and won’t do what you want.
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@@carolynstewart8465😂😂 yes true that, especially a Shetland pony 😂😂
I love that your insight into his personality and behavior had nothing to do with him being a stud. I think too often we blame everything on not being gelded, or being gelded late, or being a mare and because of it we do not understand the horse. I think hormones are a piece of the puzzle, but they are not the whole picture. 🏆
My horse was gelded at 6 after running with a herd (not sure if mares in the herd). As he has gotten older, he becomes quite stud like if there is a favourite mare nearby (friends horse) or he’s out in a group and a mare is in season. All new behaviours to me, so it’s a steep learning curve to work out how to deal with this.
Thanks for posting this! It was especially helpful for me to learn about when to yield the hindquarters vs tap them out of your space. I have a fairly insecure Arab mare who I have trouble bonding with... mainly because I think I sometimes do the wrong thing at the wrong time.
I also found it super helpful to see the barn owner working with the horse. Quite often I see professionals working with a horse and it looks so effortless and I'm like....yeah, ok, I can do that. And then I go out and try it and it's nothing like how it worked for the professional. It's good to see that we are not going to be perfect at it at the beginning.
Your videos are SO helpful!!
Have to say that in my experience, many horses that behaves like this inside calms down if they can see out the stall. Like this horse may benefit having a stall with neighbours on both sides and straight ahead from his. If u can get him a window to look out the hallway would probably also help him feel safe. With time he will automatically trust the humans and be comfortable with the space.
I'm so amazed at how these horses figure things out. So smart
Ryan, I’m not a horse person in so much as being trained; however, I AM an animal person. I was a Vet Tech for 4.5 years, while in high school and nursing school, with a large and small animal clinic so I had the occasion to interact with some horses. I say all of that as I’ve always been very interested in animal behavior. Observing them and picking up on their emotions/movements - especially those movements that’ll end up going pear shaped if not respected 😂 I came across your channel last night and I’ve watched several of your videos now. I’m learning so much specifically for horses and I find it all incredibly fascinating along with being very helpful. The cadence with both your motions and voice are quite enjoyable. I just wanted to take a moment to let you know that your videos are interesting and knowledgeable to us dog/cat folk too ☺️
I love how she reached out for help for the horse instead of making the owners move him and before it became much worse of a situation. I knew someone who had an older horse that acted just like this due to herd attachment and he became too dangerous for anyone to walk or interact with (except for his owner for liability reasons). Because his owner didn't train him and didn't fix his behavior, he ended up getting hurt one day while separated and had to he euthanized. It's really unfortunate that people don't take the initiative to help their horses. I commend this woman for reaching out for a horse she doesn't own. And thank you Ryan for all you do to help horses.
yes, it is very sad when a horse has to pay the price for the clueless humans.
A lot of good points - not just for stallions/ex-stallions, but every day horse manners. Really appreciate how Ryan picks apart all the pieces and identifies which behaviors need to be adjusted, which are horse's response to change in environment, routine, etc., and letting the owner know how to handle each, horse's response, etc., in order to keep horse calm, retrain where possible, and keep people safe. Ryan really assesses each movement and applies logic, and understanding of horse and body language - he never seems to take horse for granted or consider the animal as a robot.
He definitely needs some one on one times with a trainer. I hope his owners gift him onto someone who has the time and energy to give him nice retirement.
There you go!
You make it look easy Ryan. Thanks so much for helping that older guy and the concerned barn owner. ❤
Thank you
Ryan is on it. On every thing this horse does. The barn manager was doing what Ryan asked but I saw she was still pulling on his halter. I hope she adopts this training from Ryan
Stallons should not be segregated , my stallions run in adjoining paddocks to the mare s ,we have two rows of rails over one metre apart from each other , in the winter they are stabled especially at nights , the stallion stall is next to the mares but apart from the other stallion , horses need company of other horses to keep them happy , we serve the mares inside individually... it's great that the lady is listening and certainly patient and willing / wanting to listen n learn , she s definitely open minded .....a good owner of any horse !
Great content. Love your camera guy, he made me laugh.
He’s the best
Excellent 'triage' with that gelding. Compound issues, for sure. Separation anxiety, hormones, herd dynamic anxiety... Do you think a horse's time spent with a new herd becomes a kind of 'inter-equine' education, vis-a-vis the combined experiences of the other horses? A unique 'gestalt' in the herd with every arrival, or departure?
I'm learning so much from your vids; I'm hoping I can remember even 1/2 of it when I'm up-close-and-personal with a horse...some day soon, I hope. They give so many clues, when we know WHAT to look for, and when we learn from what we're 'seeing' when we do! 😁 Thank you, Ryan.
Ohh what a stud muffin he thinks he is ❤ I love that this barn manger and team went so far above and beyond for their boarder. Love this!
He's a real beauty.
I just love how the two waiting at the gate waiting were so patient just waiting and not fussing.
Approaching any animal from the side takes off the pressure.
I always do this with dogs too.
Slowly and from the side. It shows them you do not mean to attack them. Plus it will give them time to evaluate the situation. Which they need when they don’t know you or if they’re anxious ..
Ryan you make it look so easy! But you can definitely see the change in the horse when you had him then when the manager had him. I really like you taking the time to physically show her by handing over the lead so you can direct her and her timing on the yields. I too had a stud who I used for breeding then gelded later in life and he’s been super all along and pastured with mares and geldings so I am hopeful that this boys emotions will eventually relax. The more handling that can be done and repetitiveness he will settle.
I have so much respect for the way you train horses.
To stay safe, both the horse and the human, but also to train and not just manage a situation, and ALSO taking into account the animal's emotions...
Much much respect. You are the best horse trainer/people trainer on CZcams.
Loved your technique, as usual. You have the ability to read horses energy. I hope the handler can do it.....
Thank you for using clip on mics. In previous videos I couldn't hear what the owner was saying but now, much better.
Oh god yeah! That and the waffle introduction that lasts 20 minutes before the 10 minute content
Love the camera guys sidebar comments!! = )
Let me set my coffee cup down an move these feet! On point
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Glad you're available to help this situation Ryan ,,,, hope we can get updates on the horses improvement,,,
I agree that with an older horse like this, limited handling and stallion tendencies, it's not worth the barn lady getting hurt trying to accomplish any huge "training". Because it would be a long road. This horse may never really get over his need to focus on herd dynamics and other horses over humans. That's what happens when people (the elderly owners) keep a stallion for many years and don't handle them. It's not the barn ladies fault and she needs to keep herself and her staff safe first of all. If they can't figure out a way to manage him, it would be best if they told the owners they couldn't keep him there, as another horse has been injured by him already, and a human could easily be next
RYAN! This is exactly what happening with my boy! Would you kindly get an update to see how he is now and what’s worked… please and thank you
Brilliant video from start to finish. Very well explained, both the cause/s and tools for solution/management. Ryan resolves and re-solves so clearly. THANKS
Ich sage Danke aus Deutschland.
Es ist der Impulse, der einen verändert.
Obwohl ich nicht die Wörter alle verstehe, kann ich alles sehen , erkennen und anwenden.
Guter Job !
Ryan, you revealed a wealth of information in a short lesson. It requires a good summary, as you've provided, to handle it all.
Since this was filmed and this stable manager is getting great advice - wouldn't it be great for her to keep this video and show to her staff as resource to keep these points in mind. I noticed that in the first go round she unfortunately was using the wand to the rear of the house to get him to back around on the side you mentioned he was not comfortable with ( his right side ). Pointing this out to show that even though your points were straight forward - there is a lot going on for the manager who is concerned for the safety of other people and dealing with multiple animals. I hope the and the staff can find the time and patience to work as you indicated with this horse - because you can obviously see that your approach and observations / suggested training handling corrections will bear fruit and this is a good horse. Enjoyed watching .
Love how you work with the horses with so much understanding for both the horse and the humans in his life!
I love the Camera Guy comments. Hilarious!
This is excellent. We had a very similar situation at our barn.
At 14.44 it's easy to see that she is not aware that he is pushing on her with his nose and she keeps backing up.
I learning so much from watching your video's. Just found these yesterday!!
I would love to see a series with this guy....I bet his transformation would be night and day.
Wow, Ryan...your insight....blows me away....I know nothing about horses, but I enjoy you and your videos tremendously. Thank you
Very interesting! I always learn something when I watch your videos. I still think you need to write a training book that starts with weanlings. I'd be the first to buy a copy, autographed, of course!
When my horse decides to ignore me,I stand there and throw an apple in the air a reward times it doesn't take long for him to come to me, he gets the apple when the halters on!!!
Ryan, I learn a little something from every single video. Thank you for posting a wide variety of horse issues. If you haven’t already done so, could you please post a video of what to do about a horse who is wonderful under saddle but dangerous on cross-ties? Occasionally snapping with mouth, striking out with front leg, or kicking with back leg. Last month was the first time I have ever been kicked by a horse. I had simply unhooked the blanket under the tail and went to unhook the rear belly strap. No warning. 😩
Great advice and teaching in this video. Thank you
Thank you Ryan. 🙂
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I think you will be back there🥴
I have so much respect for you, Ryan. You're amazing.
Family owns two horses, n they terrify me... don't know how u showed up in my feed but subscribed..
Hi from Germany 🙋♀️
I learn so much from your videos. Thanks for sharing ❤
THANK YOU FOR THE VERY INTUITIVE & EXCELLENTINFORMATION ABOUT "NOT PULLIN GHIM TOWARD YOU" (sorry didn't see caps were on)but letting him make the decision to turn/look toward you -- how many times do I do that and my horse justs tunes me out . . thanks Val
Horse looks like he might be a Saddlebred? If so, high neck and more energy is normal.
Just joined your Patreon last week! I'm excited to get started 😁 thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Excellent video, as usual. Thank you
I love your method and I need to do this with my mare
Awesome video!
Thanks Ryan
He looks like a saddlebred. I love saddlebreds.
Your work is very thoughtful! Thanks a lot for sharing this, I learn a lot. It would be nice to include an update from the owners, I'm always very curious how the story continued.
Regards from the Netherlands!
Really enjoy your videos. Been riding and around horses for many years growing up but haven't for sometime. Just recently acquired a 10 year old sorrel gelding and a bay mare who came a few days later. The gelding seemed fairly settled until the mare arrived. Now more jumpy and was rearing up on me today when I tried working with him in halter and lead.
Interesting.
As a retired electrician, I have noticed that so many of the commercial stables I have visited have poorly installed and maintained electrical infrastructure.
(Just sayin'...feel free to delete this remark)
So true, and fire danger is very real!
We just had that same advice in an older barn, the conduits ! and now we turn the whole barn off if the horses must stay in overnight.
Yep I agree been working in barns for many years and they have the most nightmare wiring
Excellent video, really appreciate the specific behavior explanations.
Great video. Thank you 😊
If it helps any it took my colt a long time after being castrated to come around , but I wonder if he wasn't turned out with other horses before because he was still a stallion and the herd dynamics are just foreign to him , you are amazing though for all you are doing !
The camera guy not paying attention cracked me up! 😂😂😂
Outstanding!
Great video! Such great information and examples. thank you!
Camera man got Jokes 😂
How is his Eye sight? Have the Vet Checked? Thanks for Sharing.
1: Is he old or just young & skinny?
2: If if they can't handle a stud why do they still have him? sell him.
3: Keep the camera man , love him.
1. He’s old
2. She’s the barn manager an elderly lady owns him.
3. Ok
Hes not a stud anymore. She said he was gelded in June. So its just a waiting game really for the extra testosterone to go away.
Testosterone is gone in 1 month
@@kayBTR Sure - but the old habits and mindset from living with it for years, aren't. I know many a "late" gelding (after adulthood, but often just after) that still like to get into "stallion mode" years after the fact, and some that even mount the mares in heat! Just because some of the hormones in their body have changed in the span of a month, doesn't mean they're suddenly a different animal. That's just not how animals work, no matter which species we're talking about.
@@ZielOmizu Yes, there is always going to be some testosterone (in mares, too) as the adrenals produce it.
Love this horse and glad he met Ryan. Is this horse a Saddlebred?
That would definitely be too much horse for me.
What's up? Ryan great video 💯🔥
I had 30 horses with training help. I trained at most 10 or 12.
Thank you for sharing.🐴
this horse is so beautiful ❤❤
I have a big horse ranch in montana 578 boarders no complaints ever’’
Awesome 👏
Nicely done.
Poor boy. He looks like at when he was younger someone spent a lot of time with him as a stud to have good manners just neglect made him regress and forget.
L-o-v-e this!
Hello from new
Zealand. I love what you do. I love that you explain what you do. Lovely
daisy by the way. Would you like to lose a bit of weight. Now is the time. we dont want to lose you. Thank you meant with kindness and respect.
my mares a stallion! (she behaves same haha)
He needs a barn buddy!!! Get him a goat or sheep!!! Seabiscuit I think needed a barn buddy but they found another horse, but I've seen people use goats and sheep! But ya can't take them away from them but still its nice. Maybe he's already found a horse buddy and he's upset he's away from that particular one.
Perhaps you can help my situation. I have a mare who is being boarded near my home so I am with her every day BUT, she is in a new herd and picking up bad behaviors such as biting. How can I get my sweet and calm mare back? I do not want her to associate my visits in a negative way but the only way to get any of her training done is to take her away from the herd and to the round pen. Where are you located and do you ever travel to north Idaho?
Your one smart man.
Ryan, what is an elderly couple doing with this horse??
Thank you Sir.
He’s a good boy!
I'm amazed at how many "horse" people DON'T speak "horse" !? All of these vids are basic ground work n horse connection IMO everybody wants a "quick fix" and just do the "program" without any work. 😭 Sad to see many hv no clue how to manage horses n don't seem to understand the dynamics of herds and basic horse training
The people in his life spent too much time moving when he crowds their space. Also he is used to circling humans & using them as posts. He lacks handling on the off side. Be hopefully the barn manager can learn some techniques also.
i know close to zero about horses, so don't beat up on me for this question, please. Is he dirty or is his coat messed up?
I ALWAYS "trained" every horse I worked with, including my owners, to move to the opposite corner in their stall and THEN halter so that they learn NOT TO RUSH the door going in or going out. My current owner was a stallion before he chose me as his human ATM😵💫🫣🤗. He was still VERY studdish when he chose me and I worked with him when he was in the stall for altering, watering, hay and feeding every day to learn manners. When I was taking care of he would rush the door, going in and coming out, I've found that teach the horse to halter in the opposite side of the stall (opposite door) and by saying "CORNER" every time you enter and pushing (effective use of space) him to the opposite corner keeps EVERYONE SAFE. Reno was about nine (9) years old when he was gelded (in January 2017), and he started going up on the hill with other horses in about June of 2017. It took about a week to walk him out & back in with his halter until he figured it out. He would go on runabouts for about a week before entering his stall so I started leaving cookies in his feed tub as a reward and now at his new barn he still goes out and comes in without being a bully.