13yr old Rescue Horse has Never been Trimmed!
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- čas přidán 6. 03. 2024
- In this video I work with a rescued horse whose never had her feet trimmed. I use natural horsemanship training techniques to help her trust people more and prepare her for the farrier. Ground work will be the key to helping this horse have a fresh start with her relationship with humans.
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Wow what patience
I would love to chat with you but do not use telegram. I am happy to provide my email though and through that, would offer my telephone number!!! Great discussions and wonderful horses!
What is the story here with the videos of this horse being terribly abused? Multiple videos on you tube if you search the rescue name. czcams.com/video/XU1RYvX3ElM/video.htmlsi=MFCIHJqfxN8HweDZ
I can't help but love this owner so much. He's so great with her and also so grateful for the help.
Nice friendly guy, credit to him for giving you a call, not easy to show what’s going wrong, he will appreciate your patience
"the worst of them sense our fears and take advantage of us. The best of them sense our dreams and take us there..."
I like how this client is so emotionally attached to and invested in this little mare. Any horseman could learn from Ryan, but this guy is starting out from a position of care and respect. Trolls would probably rip apart his technique based on a 25 minute video, but I like his energy, all I would say is he could do with just 5% less intensity and speed occasionally. But overall, this chap will do infinitely more good than harm
It doesn't help that he doesn't want to waste Ryan's time (explanation for the rushing in the video) I don't think the horse would've gotten to this point if that was his normal pace
I agree. I have not yet looked at his organization's website, so from just this one video we have no idea how many rescue horses he/his staff have to help each day. I'm sure he is dealing with a myriad of conditions and issues.
I applaud the care and dedication displayed here. Kuddos for calling Ryan in as well. Yes this is a lovely little mare called Storm.
I'd love to see an update once all her feet are trimmed.
@@Kat-zk6qyexactly, everyone would be different in front of cameras, a trainer they admire. I always laugh bc my best rides are alone and then in my lessons I’m busier with my hands and overthinking bc I’m wondering what my trainer is wanting or thinking. In a clinic with a famous clinician I’m a million times worse.
I agree and I love how intent he was on learning how to help this little mare and his other rescues. Plus she’s a special little mare. ❤
Ryan, you are so awesome!
Matt, you are a fast learner. Great job helping this horse. I can’t believe you and Ryan got the front feet trimmed in the very first session with Ryan.
I like that instead of Ryan doing all the work and explaining, the client started out with Ryan explaining. This video will do more for people watching.
Agreed, the owner was already very competent
This made me sit right up and tear up even when he thanked you..
sweet sweet horse, she needs time and a confident handler.
One of the horses we fostered, had been sedated for his last 2 trims since he had been removed from his neglectful home. He was very shut down so we put him out in the pasture with our horses and left him alone. Within a couple of weeks he started coming in with the herd at feeding time. With very gentle & consistent handling on his terms, we were able to start picking up his feet. A month later our amazing farrier was able to trim his feet without incident. Giving a horse time, space, options, respect & kindness goes a long way to earning trust. Trust is the key with most rescues.
It makes a massive difference when you go in with the approach of showing them you are willing to earn respect and trust instead of expecting it without any effort, they sure have taught me alot about how life works :)
@@jamie.miller.inspiring You and me both!
Thank you for trimming her feet, Ryan, knowing that you can. It's amazing how much they forget this discomfort once the problem is fixed, and they are free to move on. I'm sure she'll do great over the next 13 years or more!
If I could give ten thumbs up I would. Great video and what I loved probably more than the horse itself is, you made the owner breathe a sigh of relief and grateful for your help. Win, win , win!
Good job helping this mare. I had no idea the poor girl was abused at a RESCUE, horrible! The part of the training tying the leg up not a good idea for the sensitive, hot breeds -TB! I owned a 2.5yr OTTB 1 week off track. Very, very sensitive and reacted strongly to HER idea of mishandling. I followed Ryan's procedure but not tie up leg. Instead I put a soft rope on her leg, (one at a time) and I held it up, increasing the time and when she was ok with this I made her walk everywhere, with rope on one leg at a time even puling on rope when we walked. If I had tied her leg up she would have reacted fighting for her life, hurting herself and breaking the trust between us. I tried this with my first TB and it was horrible and unsucessful submission. You have to know your horse to evaluate the best choice.
Thank you Ryan Rose for helping another one someone deemed hopeless.
Ryan, I am so touched by this. Thank you for helping this sweet animal, and Matt. He really has put in his time with her, too...she backs very well! But what a miracle how quickly she responded positively to your method. God bless you for all you do for all of us!
I love how you explain and teach the owner too on what to do rather than just saying that they’re wrong or not doing something fully right. It’s amazing horsemanship
Great work! I think that it helps that you're emotionally neutral in your approach. It's good to see that the trainer didn't let his ego interfere with helping the horse! Sharing your knowledge helped that trainer expand his tool box to better help horses at that rescue! Great video.
She has kind eyes ♥ She wants to do good, wondering what her life was like prior? Seeing her trust build so quickly is heartwarming. Matt is so gentle with her. Great video xx
The horse is sweetheart but the owner also! Awesome man ❤
What a nice mare. Smart, gentle, and willing. That is a great combination. Plus, she's very pretty, to boot!
This horse is obviously in severe pain, been abused, needs a best friend and more carrots.
Ryan, that was so great. I never would have dreamed this mare would get a preliminary trim in one session. In the right hands, looks like this horse has nice potential to progress to confidence. Thanks for helping her!
Realizing that backing a horse is such an effective re-set has been a game changer for me. Horses are so relieved when we have a plan for them✅
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Poor girl. Ryan, man of many horse trades.
Personally, I think horses all do better with lots of praise and touch. Which you proved with her. And practice, practice, practice. I work with wild blm mustangs just out of the pens but our approach is not that different. For foot training, I start my horses tied up and show them what I want before taking out them out on the lead for training. Personally, I think it’s takes away layer of uncertainty for them. I also release their foot right before I feel they are going to pull away. But you knew just what she needed. She’s a very sweet girl and so pretty. She just needed to know what you wanted of her. The more ground training the, better relationship under saddle. Thank you for all you do for rescue. I wish for this sweet girl many years ahead for filled with much love and a forever home.
Answer after your questions: She really seems uncomfortable in the back legs when that front is picked up, especially the left front. She appears to be loading in the front. I think getting her more muscle toned will help her support herself. Her try is great, I think she is going to do great with continued consistent training and better timing. The owner is great and also is giving the Try! I am SO glad he was able to get your help. Once those feet are addressed and get healthy she is going to be an amazing horse to own.
I agree with what you say, we also had a horse that would founder in her hind feet (Cushings) and would seesaw weight from each foot to another like she is, I’m thinking maybe abscessing, horses can abscess when theyre given a good diet all of a sudden or they go through a stressful period to relaxation
He mentioned cantering her. I’d probably wait to work her until her feet are healthier and she has built some strength up. Lots of walking, belly lifts. I saw some tremor in the muscles in the hind quarters when she shifted weight a few times and lifted her leg so would check for shivers, EPM.
I have a video of Horse Without Humans straight up abusing this exact mare, there is a reason shes so tight and defensive. They round penned her, roped her around the neck and choked her until she could no lonher stand. She fell and basically passed out, the "trainer" said "i need to get a rope on her before she comes to" so they did just that and she fully laid over and gasped for breath. I have another video of them trying to stall her by whipping her, she freaks out and hits her head and start seizing on the ground while everyone laughs. These people are straight up abusive and have a record of doing so according to past workers and clients. The horse was bleeding from her nose and an eye. Her hind end is most likely injured from her falling when being stalled, she injured her right knee during it so it wouldn't surprise me.
Conformationally, she is straight from hip to pastern!
My favorite rescue! Thank you so much for helping them!!!
Life sure ain’t cookies, unicorns n rainbows all the time. I have so much respect for you, RR. I have learned so much whilst being on your patreon. My horses have a great reputation for their calm, relaxed demeanour on our yard - and it’s thanks to yours and Jake Bierbaum’s videos on here & patreon. You guys are such empathic teachers to horses and hoomans. Thanks for,sharing your knowledge and experience so generously on here.
We did the same for our older rescue horse it’s surprising how many are out there and haven’t been handled and need the care but just not featured enough Thank you Ryan!!
The handler is wonderful! What a great video and training session. God bless you both!
Outstanding video and the appropriate way to approach and release taking what she will give you. Releasing them to the thing we want is such a powerful principle. Thank you!
I’m not a horse owner but I really enjoy watching your videos ! I love how you take a horse that says I won’t, to being a horse that says I will !! Keep up the great work you do be safe and many blessings to you !!
Awesomeness, as a human without a horse, I enjoyed watching too!
Wow, this man is so caring and compassionate and obviously wants what is best for this gal - something wrong with rear right hock?
Timing is everything. Great video Ryan. Thank you.
She's gorgeous! I'm so happy she relaxed as quickly as she did. Your instructions to her handler will go far I hope. Once he slowed his approach she seemed to relax much easier. She will make someone a wonderful heart horse given the chance.
I do have a question unrelated to today's video....how do you teach one not to freak out over a spray bottle? It was a losing battle to use a fly spray on my mare. She gained her eternal green pasture several years ago but the issue with a spray bottle still haunts me wondering what I could have done differently. 👍
One way is using water in spray bottle when it's hot- the water feels good. Then switch to fly spray. If you choose a time when it's hot and flies are annoying, horses learn really quickly that spray makes the flies go away immediately, and that tends to change their attitude. I use alfalfa cubes as rewards, and to pair with something annoying so they're distracted, which tends to change the emotional response to something annoying like spray. Use the less aggressive, mist side of the nozzle.
You can use this similar principle! You can work the horse (hind quarter yields, surrendering shoulders, backing up, lunging etc and then letting the horse rest and be released into you using a water spray bottle and spray AWAY from the horse! I stand a few feet away and spray repeatedly away from the horse and see if the horse reacts to the noise or if it’s only when the liquid touches them!
A lot are scared by the spray noise too! So this helps break it down for them!
Then I work the horse doing an exercise mentioned above and then stop and let the horse be released into me spraying AWAY from horse! Once horse is handling this completely fine, then I move the spray closer and spray beside the horse. Then I put them back to work with another one of these exercises and then keep resting in same spot with spraying water bottle each time closer! Once the horse doesn’t mind me spraying near them and they are completely relaxed
I stand at 45degree angle so I can’t be struck if it touching them shocks or scares them and I’ll just spray once on the shoulder and then go back to spraying away from horse!
I try to remove the spray from them before they move their feet! Just like Ryan said about touching the back legs, try move your hand off them before they feel the need to move away from you!
Then I work the horse again and come back and spray beside them and then spray on shoulder again and take it away! And keep spraying away from horse and then spray shoulder again (just one spray) and spray away! If they get upset and feel the need to move I make them commit to their decision of moving and if they are backing away then I back them like in this video! Just remember not to get in a hurry when they do move away! If they move to side I move them over that way and then lunge away from the spot where I’ve been spraying them as I still want them to associate that water spraying spot as release! Then I come back to that sport and start by spraying away from them and then on their shoulder until they couldn’t care less about being sprayed! Then I move further down body
So with-in one session they tend to be handling it pretty well! 3 consecutive sessions and I can generally leave lead rope on ground and spray them all over
This stops any crazy running around! With them freaking out!
If this isn’t clear let me know and I can show in a video 😊
You're so good Ry, and what a darling she is 🙂
You rock...got her done, and she will be miles ahead.
Her trainer learned lits...but his gentle care of her gies mikes as well.
The fact that her hoofs have grown so long contributes to making it difficult to be balanced with one foot up.
The concept of releasing them to what you want is SO, so important. It’s similar (in terms of outcome expectations) to what many are familiar with as “make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard” except with that, I feel the focus can mistakenly be on the “wrong thing hard” which can turn into feeling like punishment……waiting for them to commit to the behaviour you are trying to change helps stop us from anticipating and getting ahead of the behaviour, while ‘releasing’ them to what we want is very positive focused which I think helps us focus on the behaviour we are trying to get to. Thanks again for such a good example of how quick the progress can be if we focus on these concepts and our timing! 😊
I think you've missed the concept of making the wrong thing hard and the right tthing easy.
@@jmmearessorry, no….”I” haven’t missed the concept - “I” get it…..I said it CAN be handled incorrectly - I’ve seen it (people who think HARD=punishment) …. I believe Ryan’s wording of this very similar concept may be less likely to be misinterpreted - at least to me, it feels like a much more positive-first approach.
@@denaross Understood, so what does making the wrong the hard and the right thing easy look like to you and what does it look like to people whom you say use it as a form punishment?
WOW! That was really touching! Thank you for sharing your experience with this adorable horse and the dedicated owner. Bra or!
Training assistance plus farrier - wow! 😂. Forgot your Q…..
My girl is one of the few that sis COMPLETELY ok with her hind legs/feet being touched and doesn’t like to hold her feet for the farrier. We are working on it and I’m taking notes here!
Mr. Rose making the world a better place. Großartig, einfach großartig. Hut ab!
Another excellent example of helping horses and the humans who love them. Very nicely done!
That mare has a kind eye but she has discomfort.
I wonder if she has rotation or laminitis in that front left leg, that leg in particular seems to bother her the most.
She looks just like our rescue mare and she had the same issues at the beginning. Beautiful horse.
Ryan, thank you for always helping these horses. Love and light to you
Awww 11:11 she looks back to see what he is doing ❤
Excellent..such a sweet Mare.they are doing great work.
I like to ASK for the leg with a tap. Grabbing allows them more pulling back. The owner certainly cares and you can really help him Ryan.
Wow! What a wonderful video! It was like watching a butterfly unfold her wings! We were watching a metamorphosis orchestrated by two compassionate horsemen! Loved it!
Great work, It's perfect start. ( and thank goodness for good sharp nippers) Being a natural hoof care provider, I've been doing this type of work for over 20 yrs from unhandled colts and rescues to barely gentled mustangs. She wasn't too complicated she just needed you to help her humans help her understand what is expected of her. I'm glad you noticed her hind end discomfort she holds herself very defensively, also tight in her sacrum and abdominal area. With a little more socializing and multiple conscious handlers helping out she will be on her way to being able to get more comfortable in her hoofs and body. Thank You Horse Without Humans for your dedicated work.
I had an Arab mare who started acting this way when she was 15. it turns out she had SLDS in her rear legs, which caused her to start moving backwards when you picked her feet up. She was in pain.
Hell of job Ryan, that was great
Thank you for creating this video I was having some trouble with my 5yr old to not rip his foot away when asked
Gotta get that mental control immediately with a powerful animal
This vid came to me at the perfect time. I'll be a patron soon. Gotta wait till payday.
I loved this video. This man really cares for his rescues and developed a bond with this little mare. I agree she’s sweet and she’s trainable. She has had trauma but she’s smart and she warmed up to Ryan quickly too. I really love this little mare. ❤
Amazing! Great job! Well done!!
Great job Ryan. Thank you for video.😄
I like that guy, he knows his stuff! The owner i meen 😁 Ryan ro ofcourse..
The poor horse has had a hard life, what a lovely horse and great job by the owner.
A lick would be handy whilst trimming and teaching them new skills.
Not a horse person here but I LOVED this video! I think CZcams must've shown me Ryan's videos because I love behavior modification. Ryan does a great job explaining pressure & release of pressure. I also loved how the trainer was able to listen and implement Ryan's strategy so quickly. Having such a quick learner seems rare.
Fear of losing balance
I love your expression “ as things get too western “
God bless you
Great video!!
Thanks Ryan😊
thanks for helping her! Such a sweet mare
Awesome job to both of you and that pretty mare ❤
I had a horse like but she got better on her pick up now she is good on pick her feet
Sweet horse.
Oh my gosh. I thoroughly enjoyed Ryan coaching this trainer through the exercise! So many new insights! Thank you for sharing.
God bless you for helping this poor horse! I get so frustrated with humanoids who get horses but don't take the time or effort to care for them, clean their feet or have their feet trimmed! Do people understand that a domesticated horse is UNABLE to fend for themselves?
Hi, thank you for the knowledge and skills you share. I have been working with three youngsters, prepping them for hoof trimming, one of which is urgent. The technique in this video worked within three attempts with all three ponies and has saved me an enormous amount of time and the ponies unnecessary stress. Much appreciated.
Love it! My gelding has been finicky with his front feet in the past - think it was trauma from having previous acute laminitis/abscesses but just like you teach, any argument with his feet I would yield the hind quarters both directions a few turns and ask again. When he was his worst, it took 3-5 hind quarter sessions and he would stand quiet foot in the air. Keep it up!
Most horses and donkey's get rocking chair hooves after,4 to 5 years of neglect.
When they don't want their feet handled it's difficult to get them shaped up so they can be trained. Kind of a cycle. I've been trimming feet professionally for 20 years. I like to see this type of handling...taking the time it takes for the horse to understand. I've often even allowed them to eat tasty hay and grain as a way for the horse to associate hoof handling as pleasant experience. All my own horses eat while being trimmed. They try to beat each other to the gate when its time to be trimmed. It doesn't work with every horse tho. Some will tell me to they just want to be left alone while they eat and they stand better without the enticement. But these patterns and using ask and release with proper timing, and touching from the top down is a way more polite than as some farriers do it, reaching out and snatching the leg from the horse. Tactics like that are what sours a horse from allowing their legs to be handled. The kind of training we see here should he started with foals. Sadly it is often bypassed with many babies of late, unlike when I was a kid, hoof handling was the most important part of training.
mad respect to you ryan , I did not know you are a farrier, i have been watching yiour viddeo for years, i would love to see how her hind feet got trimmed too great video
You are a gift to the horse world, thanks for all you do!
Hey man just wanted give you a shout out I really enjoy your content. I’m a mustang guy with three wild ponies rounded up and made safe solid horses . I really enjoy your effort with misunderstanded horses
That was so helpful! Learned a lot here. One of my horses often has issues with holding up a foot for longer than a few seconds. Will apply these techniques and see how I get on. For over I'm looking forward to picking his hooves 😊. Both horse and owner were great.
You asked what was going on in the beginning. In the beginning he was releasing when she pulled back. With your help, he released when she did what was correct.
Nice job!
Great job!!!
Thanks Ryan for another great video.
brilliant, very helpful vid.
Great video!
great info
You have it Ryan ❤
Awesome video🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great tips on backup for front and disengage for back feet, so many other little tidbits. I have one about the same age who wasn't handled till I adopted her at 11 years old. She loved to double barrel kick and contact something with her back feet when I got her. She's easy to trim her front feet now, and she'll pick up her back feet using a "stick" and a snap of my fingers. Now it's time to try your method down today. Thank you!
Ryan, why didn’t you perform the task of lifting her legs in the beginning, so the guy could see the correct technique? Then he can start practicing the technique himself. Just curious.
You asked about what might be going wrong, I felt he was rushing his movements and maybe also to firm with his touch. Needs to slow down for her and lighter touch.
I love this thank you !!! I rescued a mare bout 4 months ago & am working with her hoofs . This is such great help & advice ❤
It was great relationship
Beautiful hirse
Awesome, big time