Looks like a great result to me. Now for the same low speed and high speed tests on your Tesla model Y for some more real world comparisons between these two vehicles. 👍
@@TedKidd they probably would be, but there is only one way to find out. According to Tesla though the model Y (any model) should do significantly better, which is just not true in reality, and it would be nice to see a die hard Tesla supporter like EV Dave show the raw and unbiased real world data since he has all these vehicles to test with. How about it Dave, can we count on you to test this for the EV community? Great vids!👍
@@joecmarques keeping in mind the battery is 25% smaller in the Tesla. (Or 33% larger in Ford...?) If I had to bet, Tesla (without performance tires) will go 250 at 75, 365 at 50. But I believe Dave's car has performance tires, so 230/320
@@TedKidd I don't think anyone in the EV community debates Tesla efficiency, they are clearly top notch at squeezing as much as possible out of the battery, and they should be since they have over a decade head start. But to put things back in perspective we are not talking about a battery here. We are talking about two overall finished products here, the Mach-E and the Model Y are priced identically, but the Tesla is rated higher than the Mach-E, no one really cares about the battery size unless we are talking about charging times. If Tesla advertises 300 miles range on a full charge, then you should get 300 miles range, period the end. A guy who just paid for more miles on the Tesla doesn't want to hear how he paid the same price as the Mach-E but got less miles than the Mach-E but but in theory got better efficiency... he wants the range he was sold because that's what he paid for.
@@joecmarques I agree that there are morons like that out there. Funny how the same people never complain about the range of their 20 gallon gas tank "isn't exactly what the EPA said it would be" I've come to realize that attempting to fix stupid is a fool's errand, and suggest you accept that as well. Makes life easier.
Waaaay better than my Bolt, which has 2.1 miles per kwh lifetime efficiency.... 320 v 230, EPA should advertise this variance instead of a single number.
Yep, that’s a much more pleasant speed on the highway, and 231 miles is plenty. I hope Ford concentrate on efficiency though. There’s just shy of 100kWh(?) strapped to that horsey, while ‘EV Database’ has the Model Y LR at 75kWh (72.5kWh useable). I know it looks a bit pedantic, but the Y is saving a quarter the precious battery fire power, which would allow for roughly 250,000 more Mach-es produced for every 1,000,000 cars at present, for the same (current) total battery cell usage. The running costs would also be lower, especially with regular distance driving, with a more efficient 75 kWh battery pack. If you, Hank and Luna are up for it, it would be interesting to see how the Y fairs on this route.
Thanks Dave. I wonder if Ford will offer a similar program to Tesla offering 1000 free miles to you and people who order a car using your link. My guess is no, since Ford uses dealerships and Tesla does not. Tesla made is the USA and Mach E made in Mexico.
@@evdave528 Well that is not quite true. You do get 250KWh of free Electrify America charging and a $100 rebate on the Hands Free CoPilot 360 subscription when it is released later this summer. Not quite as nice as 1,000 free Supercharging miles but it is something. Also you only get those free miles from Tesla if you know to use a referral link when placing an order
So a 100 kW battery yields about 240 miles of range at highway speeds? How does its efficiency (wh/mi) compare to a Model Y? My GOM tells me it's not very efficient. Can't wait for winter range tests will be since it doesn't have a heat pump.
Looks like a great result to me. Now for the same low speed and high speed tests on your Tesla model Y for some more real world comparisons between these two vehicles. 👍
I bet the distances would be similar
@@TedKidd they probably would be, but there is only one way to find out. According to Tesla though the model Y (any model) should do significantly better, which is just not true in reality, and it would be nice to see a die hard Tesla supporter like EV Dave show the raw and unbiased real world data since he has all these vehicles to test with.
How about it Dave, can we count on you to test this for the EV community?
Great vids!👍
@@joecmarques keeping in mind the battery is 25% smaller in the Tesla. (Or 33% larger in Ford...?)
If I had to bet, Tesla (without performance tires) will go 250 at 75, 365 at 50.
But I believe Dave's car has performance tires, so 230/320
@@TedKidd I don't think anyone in the EV community debates Tesla efficiency, they are clearly top notch at squeezing as much as possible out of the battery, and they should be since they have over a decade head start.
But to put things back in perspective we are not talking about a battery here. We are talking about two overall finished products here, the Mach-E and the Model Y are priced identically, but the Tesla is rated higher than the Mach-E, no one really cares about the battery size unless we are talking about charging times. If Tesla advertises 300 miles range on a full charge, then you should get 300 miles range, period the end. A guy who just paid for more miles on the Tesla doesn't want to hear how he paid the same price as the Mach-E but got less miles than the Mach-E but but in theory got better efficiency... he wants the range he was sold because that's what he paid for.
@@joecmarques I agree that there are morons like that out there.
Funny how the same people never complain about the range of their 20 gallon gas tank "isn't exactly what the EPA said it would be"
I've come to realize that attempting to fix stupid is a fool's errand, and suggest you accept that as well. Makes life easier.
Thank you Dave, it seems accurate to me.
Waaaay better than my Bolt, which has 2.1 miles per kwh lifetime efficiency....
320 v 230, EPA should advertise this variance instead of a single number.
Thanks for the video. You know we are going to as you to do the same run with the MY 😀
Thanks Dave, I'm enjoying your videos.
Thanks🙂
Your videos are super informative! Thanks.
That’s crazy. Our Mach-E AWD SR is easily seeing 200 miles per charge on the Highway
Really interesting!
Good test, very informative.
Thank you.
Luna likes car rides a lot, Hank seems to be along for the ride. :-)
Which Mach E was this? 4WD or rear wheel drive with extended battery?
Yep, that’s a much more pleasant speed on the highway, and 231 miles is plenty.
I hope Ford concentrate on efficiency though. There’s just shy of 100kWh(?) strapped to that horsey, while ‘EV Database’ has the Model Y LR at 75kWh (72.5kWh useable).
I know it looks a bit pedantic, but the Y is saving a quarter the precious battery fire power, which would allow for roughly 250,000 more Mach-es produced for every 1,000,000 cars at present, for the same (current) total battery cell usage. The running costs would also be lower, especially with regular distance driving, with a more efficient 75 kWh battery pack.
If you, Hank and Luna are up for it, it would be interesting to see how the Y fairs on this route.
Watch tomorrow I did the slow speed run today
The more I see of these range videos, it seems like EVs are great for around town, but not travel.
GOM . Love it
Nice test. I see HVAC use was 2%. Did you have AC on or just fan on ?? I know HVAC can have significant effect on the efficiency. Very nice video.
Hvac
Thanks Dave. I wonder if Ford will offer a similar program to Tesla offering 1000 free miles to you and people who order a car using your link. My guess is no, since Ford uses dealerships and Tesla does not. Tesla made is the USA and Mach E made in Mexico.
Ford offers the customer nothing
@@evdave528 Well that is not quite true. You do get 250KWh of free Electrify America charging and a $100 rebate on the Hands Free CoPilot 360 subscription when it is released later this summer. Not quite as nice as 1,000 free Supercharging miles but it is something. Also you only get those free miles from Tesla if you know to use a referral link when placing an order
@@smartino1 And don't forget about x-plan!
I was looking for high speed but I see only normal speed. What is the consumption when you do 160kph / 100mph ?
Good question I sold the mache but look at some other CZcams videos. Mileage is usually linear based mostly on drag and aero-dynamics
How long does it take to charge? And how much do charge station charge?
Have a look at my Colorado to nc videos but 40-45 minutes up to 80%
How did the Model Y do on this test?
I did a video on the Y check out my channel
Is your ME awd or rwd?
AWD long range
How does that m/kWh compare to your M Y?
Take 1000/m/kWh to get kWh/ mi
So a 100 kW battery yields about 240 miles of range at highway speeds? How does its efficiency (wh/mi) compare to a Model Y? My GOM tells me it's not very efficient. Can't wait for winter range tests will be since it doesn't have a heat pump.
Watch Bjorn nyland “ Tesla Bjorn” he did the winter Mach e test using 90/120 kph. Mach e has 99kwh battery vs my 74kwh
@@evdave528 Or 88kWh vs your 72.5kWh
The Mach-E only makes 88kwh useable.
@@ERPRocks ok, that’s still a lot of energy to go 250 miles. What’s the wh/mi? Does the MME display that?
@@thomasjacques5286 It looks like this test was run in a hilly environment. I would guess that takes a huge toll on the range.