Excellent video as per your usual - informative, entertaining and funny where intended. To someone considering buying this guitar, this review would be invaluable as it is extremely thorough and unbiased. I wonder if the customer will keep the guitar after hearing some of the leas-than-flattering opinions expressed in the video😉.
I'm not sure what you meant by "funny." There's a potentially positive development coming out of another recent review video... the Yamaha Revstar. Apparently the retailer is reaching out to Yamaha after a couple of the Revstar guitars that have been brought to my shop didn't pass the inspection. Perhaps this video could also trigger some QC improvements at Epiphone. But I still can't figure out what you meant by "funny."
This is a good guitar, but a few mods would greatly improve it. If I was to think of mods to improve this guitar... here's the list. I would definitely rotate that neck pickup, as it really doesn't look good. The rotation of the pickup does nothing to the sound, anyway. Level those 2 or 3 high frets and give the frets a proper polish and buff. I would remove that plastic nut and clean up the nut shelf, then install a nylon nut and cut it down to minimum height. I would improve those messy soldering connections. The fact that the bass side of the fretboard has .002" more relief than the treble side is actually really good. Some luthiers try to achieve that through various advanced leveling techniques. The bass side having slightly more relief is actually potentially good. On the cosmetic side of things I would remove that 3-screw truss rod cover altogether and possibly plug those two crew holes. If I was feeling really up to the challenge, I might tackle a mod that would completely plug the holes (invisibly) and extend the middle part so I could install a 2 screw Gibson cover. A lot of work, just for beauty. But they really made it look like a Chibson, with this headstock and that cover. I hate it. I would strip the finish and remove that ugly flam veneer. If the exposed maple looked good I would keep that exposed. If not, I would make it a gold top. Strip the whole guitar and respray with nitro. If anyone wants this, let's do it.
@@GuitarQuackeryI'm sure it's a decent guitar, and undoubtedly the mods you described would make it great. The problem with it is that it's wildly overpriced based on a marketing gimmick where it's made to resemble a particular Les Paul owned by several famous guitarists.
To me $600 to $700 on a quality Epiphone is within the realm of value, as long as the distribution of the money is fair (no slave labor). The Greeny Epiphone is not much different than any other $700 Epiphone LP. There are a few differences, though. I forgot to mention in the video that I believe that the frets were leveled. If you go back and look at the microscope images, you can see that the frets are a bit flat on top. So, they were leveled, but not properly recrowned. No other Epiphone goes through any fret leveling stage. Of course, it has the Gibson pickups. And not to mention the high quality Switchcraft output jack. Unlike other Epiphpones, all the hardware was properly tightened.
This was a great video! I do have a pair of those pickups in a low end guitar and they sound phenomenal. Kudos to the guitar player. It’s nice seeing younger people so motivated to play and instrument. Keep up the great work!
This is a brilliant video, learnt so much - especially loved the coffee stir stick neck test and the nut detail - liked and subscribed (got to add, the guitar sounds amazing in the demo, sublime tones and phenomenal playing) 😊 thank you
Really good review, especially as I was considering buying one of these guitars. Beyond that though, I've learned a lot about the instrument in general that I wasn't aware of.
i turned my 2011 Epiphone Bonomassa Goldtop darkback into a greeny Goldtop , it has grovers, rosewood fretboard , longneck tenon, mis matched nobs, switchcraft, CTS pots, mallory caps, 9.5 pounds with old epiphone headstock New Changes: Greenybuckers replaced burstbuckers 2/3 - orange drop caps replaced the mallory caps - ernie ball 9's it is even more of a wooly beast than before funny review
Yeah, I would personally suggest doing exactly that. Converting another guitar and making it your own signature model. I believe people have also suggested, converting a Led Paul Tribute into a Greeny. And Dylan of Dylan Talks Tone also has a tutorial on how to “make” your own Greeny pickup.
The volume change from 10 to 9 is due to the pickups being out of phase. When both bols ar at 10, maximum signal cancelation occurs. As soon as there is a volume differential, the cancelation lessens, hence the volume increase. If you watch Peter Green performing with Fleetwood Mac, you can see Green constantly using the volume control, he was a pro at using the multitude of out of phase tones that can be created with that configuration. By the way, it is believed that the flipped magnet in the neck pickup that creates the out of phase condition was a Gibson factory defect in 1959.
They really dropped the ball with the epi greeny especially at $1500. Feels like a cash grab for young metallica fans. I got an epi alex lifeson for $900 and was surprised at how nice it is. Everything was perfect. Beautiful guitar.
Epiphone nowadays really makes high quality guitars. Of course, there will be variations, depending on which factory workers worked in them, but overall, they are high quality guitars, for the money. The $1,500 price tag is too high, though. Make sure you don't miss my latest Epiphone Les Paul Review czcams.com/video/hDh8zxV9WP4/video.html for the 60s Standard model.
Well , you got me to like & subscribe. Your breakdown was excellent. The video is very informative. Your use of the microscopes, which I have never seen done before is excellent. And I learned a few good tips. Your delivery is very cool & different. I assume your in NYC. Can you tell us where?
Thank you very much for your feedback. I'm glad you clicked like & subscribe and I would also like to suggest clicking the share button, if you know anyone that would benefit from this content, to help grow the channel. Making this content has been affecting my turnaround time in a big way and is making a big dent in the business. But if I can monetize this channel, at least it will help me continue doing this. Thanks. To answer your question, yes, I am in NYC. In fact, there are two locations. One is the old location, in Brooklyn, and the other one is the newer location in Midtown Manhattan, in a shared space with Music Makers NY (the rehearsal studio). Both businesses are easy to find on Google, if you are in NYC. If you're interested in finding out more about the location, you might want to watch the new location announcement video czcams.com/video/hc9ZYB2alPQ/video.html that shows you around the studio. Thanks buddy.
Thank you for your kind words. I’m not sure I can live up to “the best tech in town,” but I do feel comfortable with the title, “the best tech on the block,” LOL.
Really enjoyed this analytical style of review and also the humour :)) Being an addict i did consider buying this thing, but at 1500 of our UK pounds managed to resist. I agree with your comments about the headstock and in particular the truss rod cover ...so incongruous. I'm certain if i had pressed the "buy now" the old buyer regret would have raised its head, especially if I'd watched your vid post purchase lol Just found your channel so looking forward (and probably back too) to some great content.
I am actually planning to do a follow up video, which will be a theoretical discussion about what could be done to this guitar to upgrade it, which will not be a logical option for anyone that has to pay a tech.
I'll certainly watch this, but still not prepared to spend £1500 on an Epiphone built with low cost labour / overheads. If I want the 'greeny' thing I'll buy a used Gibson LP standard and swap the pickups ...sell the 'buckers for around £200. Maybe with all the hype I might be over the "greeny" thing :)
@@keithtt7798 I think, if one is going to have several Les Paul guitars, it does make sense to have one of them with these pickups. But I agree with you that it doesn't make sense to spit out $1,500 for an Epiphone that's mass produced in the same factory where $600 Epiphones come from.
I love mine and I've owned at least 15 Gibson Les Paul's..I M also had 25 of the best guitarists in Nashville as cartage clients for 15 years . Gibson snobs can't stand that Epiphone is getting waaay better at their signature models . You know what they say about opinions. right ?
Correct. Both of those mods have bene replicated from the original Greeny , but the fact that it is rotated 180 degrees is not the modification that produces the out of phase sound.
Hello! Great review. Questions! Did you work on the nut, level those few frets, tighten the trust rod, and level those picks up? My concern is with the nut, what could I do to make it right without necessarily getting a new nut?
Feel free to watch the follow up video czcams.com/video/Un8Rj1BoVBM/video.html to see what I eded up doing with the guitar. I just talked about upgrades and I did show how to fix the tilt of the pickups, but did not do any actual work. I returned the guitar, then paid a little extra and bout a Gibson R8 (reissue 1958) Les Paul. This looks like a hand filed nut, which is not what we typically see on Epiphone Les Paul guitars. This might be a good nut material, I really cant say one way or another. My first attempt to repair the nut, if I wanted to do it on a lower budget, would be to take the time to file down these string slots correctly and to clean up all the shredded parts that the files would produce. A nylon nut would also look like this if one doesn't take the time to clean up the shreds. Hope this helps and thanks for dropping by.
It's plain ole' amusing what has become of, "The Greeny" since f**king Kirk Hammett bought it?!! I mean, Peter Green AND Gary Moore owned that guitar & it's now known as The Kirk Hammett Greeny?!! Then he carves his initials in the back of it? People are making a big deal out of the, "Open book headstock." Man, Epiphone Japan Les Pauls are beautiful guitars & they have had a Gibson headstock for decades. And a rosewood fretboard! The Lemon Drop finish or even just an Amber finish have always been favorites of mine. But man, somehow I don't find myself being overly excited about an overpriced guitar, associated with a guitar player, from Metallica. Gary Moore? Yeah man kinda, a bit more inspiring.
It is, in fact, a guitar with a really long name, the Kirk Hammett Greeny Epiphone Les Paul. Let’s see what other names get attached to it and times to come.
I've had my Epiphone Greeny for 4 days now. This is a very well made guitar and no it's not a Chibson. It kinda reminds me of a Gibson Tribute Les Paul. Oh yes I'm going to name mine Gary.
I’ve got a Epiphone 1959 Les Paul and a Epiphone 1959 ES355 and they play and sound as good as any Gibson that I’ve owned. And according to the rest of the world, being made in the USA isn’t that good anymore.
Sure, but it is important to point out that every guitar should be looked at separately, regardless of make and model. We can't review guitars like we review smart phones. Guitars are made of wood and there are no two identical pieces of wood to begin with. And guitars are not made to the same tolerances as car engines, computers, etc. Hope this makes sense. Thanks for dropping by.
Ha Ha No,but i find you cant normally play a case and if it is to classy someone might think whats inside this case and try to take it.@@GuitarQuackery
I’m not hating on this but I wouldn’t plop down $1,500 on an Epi w/a veneer top and not even rosewood board. Even older Epis have rosewood. Laurel is great but not on a guitar approaching $2k that checks many other boxes. It seems as though Gibson/Epiphone just got tired of cheaper but damn good quality (at times) Chibsons and just made their own. I’m torn here because I love to see better options in the budget lines but when those instruments eclipse the prices of similarly priced higher end models then I start missing the point. The waters have gotten muddy. I do laugh though because the folks that buy the high luxury models of these Gibsons, they just don’t seem as special with 27 other versions of their guitar. It’s a wacky guitar world right now as we all await the next Epi version of Kirk’s black LP Custom 🤨 Great breakdown though.
Quite a few people feel that way. It is clear that they have in fact done more high-quality work on this guitar then they normally do on Epiphone Les Paul models. But the price is in fact too high. It would be a good price if it was made in the USA, or in Japan. But I do not like the veneer top, regardless where it’s made.
I did not. I had a lot on my mind, and I forgot to measure the pickups. I should have. I have a Gibson Les Paul R8 with 50s wiring. When I turn the volume pots on my R8, the volume does not get bumped up when dialing down from 10 towards 9. I wish I had dug a little deeper into this issue, which is clearly a problem. To be honest, I’m struggling with time management. Doing these videos absorbs a lot of my time. I hope you understand. Thanks.
$2750 AUD in Australia.... when you can buy many Gibsons for the same price. on the used market :) These are just over priced for the suckers. Are you serious with the pickups??? greenies guitar was famous for the the sound.... and that was because he put the pickup in back the front by mistake.,.... instant magic.
Friend, I regret to say that you are incorrect. But don't just take my word for it, as it is a well established fact, what causes the "Greeny" sound. Just go to Dylan Talks Tone czcams.com/video/mdBT9Mr5T3E/video.html to the 8:48 time mark on his video and see for yourself how Dylan explains it. And please be easy on your comments.
Buying an 300-500 dollar Epiphone and putting in the overpriced greeny pick ups would save you around 700-900 dollars but I'm not exactly smart with money either. Even child labor is getting too expensive
Yeah, I know... In fact, I've already seen some CZcamsrs make this exact comment. Dylan, from Dylan Talks Tone also put out an instructional video on how to mod your own pickup to make it a "greeny".
I definitely have plenty of regrets, when looking back in life. Even when looking back a week ago (like thinking about some repair jobs I've committed to, that I should not have gotten involved with). Why do you ask?
Thank you for your positive feedback, Interestingly, I already got one thumb's down, in the first hour of this video. I really can't figure out what in the world to do differently, on a guitar review.
@@GuitarQuackeryI wouldn’t worry, I really think that some people use the thumbs down as a lazy ignorant way to tell the algorithm to not recommend your videos to them. Keep it up, I loved the microscope camera views
Because a country does not have the same standards of living as others doesn't mean it's slave labor. Something to keep in mind while usuing your cell phone next time. Otherwise, EXCELLENT content. PS: Epiphone headstocks have always sucked.
Yes, I understand, the “slave labor“ remark is more broadly applied. Sometimes parents bring me guitars, complaining that their kids broke the pots or the output jack. I explain that on most guitars made in China or Indonesia the hardware is typically not tightened, so when you turn the pots or use the output jack eventually the solder joints break. Then they complain that their kids need the guitar back as soon as possible and they want it right away, yada, yada, yada… and why don’t they tighten the hardware properly? They don’t think of the people who make those guitars, and how much those people get paid to tighten all the components properly. And they don’t ask themselves if their own kids would tighten all of those same components, if they got paid the same wages?
Wow. The 300th yt review of this dud of a guitar. How original. $50 bucks says that the vast majority of sales with this model, regardless of price point, are to yt reviewers.
@@GuitarQuackery ....Except that the view you got from me was only a few seconds and came with a smash on the "don't recommend channel" button. Feed that to the algorithm...
I can totally understand that you don’t even like the idea of a review of this guitar. I don’t like that guitar myself. I am simply trying to make useful content for guitar players who need access to helpful Guitar tech information. I noticed that review videos get views. We all know that this is an overrated guitar, so I used it to get more clicks. If you watch the video, you will see that it’s not a positive review, but you were also find information that will be useful to you in other ways, as I do reviews in ways, that other channels do not. For what it’s worth, I believe you should give it a fair try and watch some of the videos that I’ve posted. I’m sure you will find a helpful information in some of the videos.
How many guitar factories are there in China? We've all played Chinese guitars some better than others with some extremely good indeed. There is an old Chinese proverb that says 'too much science and not enough art makes Jack a dull boy'
There is an old Chinese proverb, that says, “China is one in Ormus guitar factory.” I honestly don’t know how many guitar factories there are in China. I’ve heard some talk on CZcams that there aren’t that many. Of course, the quality is getting better, because it’s all CNC made. Like a Toyota car, when all the industrial robots are precisely calibrated, they will produce consistent products. In fact, Epiphone guitars are more consistent than Gibson guitars. That’s because at the Gibson factory they still employ a lot of hand work.
While it should be the goal of any financially healthy company to maximize their profits and minimize their losses, it is clear that sometimes companies don’t exactly offer value for the higher price tag. While it is true that Epiphone guitars have improved significantly in quality, in the past few years, it is also true that this one is greatly overpriced. This is a guitar that is mass produced in China. A quick look through the microscope clearly shows that they did not employ anyone with higher skills to work on the nut or the frets. What added to the higher price tag is the shape of the headstock, the signature model details, the hard case, the Gibson, pick ups, high-quality electronic components, the new bridge design (with wobbly posts) and possibly a better selection of woods. But at the end, this is still just a guitar that’s mass produced in China. They should’ve built this one in the USA plant and priced it at $1,800. and for that price, they could have not used that flame maple veneer, which cheapens the whole guitar. I would much more prefer a simple maple cap (which is in fact, what is already underneath that veneer), regardless of how fancy the grain looks, or doesn’t look.
@@GuitarQuackery no. You said this video has 4 halves. The correct term would be quarters but I knew what you meant. Great channel by the way. I subbed.
Oh, I see. That was part of the humor. The guy you see on the screen really me, the way I really am in real life. That guy is a quack. He doesn’t know how halves work. But he is half real and half fictitious character. I like to flirt with humor that can sometimes come across as ambiguous. So I guess in this case, it wasn’t crystal clear if I was being serious, or incompetent, or if it was just a slip up. It was in fact fully scripted and in this video, I was reading the text from the teleprompter.
@@GuitarQuackery I knew you were joking hence my little 🤣 at the end. Otherwise, I might’ve given you one of 🤔 or possibly even a 😳 but since you thoroughly explained in case I really believed you think 4 halves make 1 whole, I’ll give you a 👍.
@@GuitarQuackery I guess if you are really into the greeny guitar then it might make someone very happy but I would personally just get a different Epi and have greeny pick ups installed for less money
Excellent video as per your usual - informative, entertaining and funny where intended.
To someone considering buying this guitar, this review would be invaluable as it is extremely thorough and unbiased. I wonder if the customer will keep the guitar after hearing some of the leas-than-flattering opinions expressed in the video😉.
I'm not sure what you meant by "funny."
There's a potentially positive development coming out of another recent review video... the Yamaha Revstar. Apparently the retailer is reaching out to Yamaha after a couple of the Revstar guitars that have been brought to my shop didn't pass the inspection. Perhaps this video could also trigger some QC improvements at Epiphone.
But I still can't figure out what you meant by "funny."
This is a good guitar, but a few mods would greatly improve it.
If I was to think of mods to improve this guitar... here's the list.
I would definitely rotate that neck pickup, as it really doesn't look good. The rotation of the pickup does nothing to the sound, anyway.
Level those 2 or 3 high frets and give the frets a proper polish and buff.
I would remove that plastic nut and clean up the nut shelf, then install a nylon nut and cut it down to minimum height.
I would improve those messy soldering connections.
The fact that the bass side of the fretboard has .002" more relief than the treble side is actually really good. Some luthiers try to achieve that through various advanced leveling techniques. The bass side having slightly more relief is actually potentially good.
On the cosmetic side of things I would remove that 3-screw truss rod cover altogether and possibly plug those two crew holes. If I was feeling really up to the challenge, I might tackle a mod that would completely plug the holes (invisibly) and extend the middle part so I could install a 2 screw Gibson cover. A lot of work, just for beauty. But they really made it look like a Chibson, with this headstock and that cover. I hate it.
I would strip the finish and remove that ugly flam veneer. If the exposed maple looked good I would keep that exposed. If not, I would make it a gold top. Strip the whole guitar and respray with nitro.
If anyone wants this, let's do it.
@@GuitarQuackeryI'm sure it's a decent guitar, and undoubtedly the mods you described would make it great.
The problem with it is that it's wildly overpriced based on a marketing gimmick where it's made to resemble a particular Les Paul owned by several famous guitarists.
To me $600 to $700 on a quality Epiphone is within the realm of value, as long as the distribution of the money is fair (no slave labor). The Greeny Epiphone is not much different than any other $700 Epiphone LP. There are a few differences, though. I forgot to mention in the video that I believe that the frets were leveled. If you go back and look at the microscope images, you can see that the frets are a bit flat on top. So, they were leveled, but not properly recrowned. No other Epiphone goes through any fret leveling stage.
Of course, it has the Gibson pickups.
And not to mention the high quality Switchcraft output jack.
Unlike other Epiphpones, all the hardware was properly tightened.
@@GuitarQuackeryIf the kids at the Epiphone factory in China could level the frets on the Greeny model, why can't they do the same on other models?
This was a great video! I do have a pair of those pickups in a low end guitar and they sound phenomenal. Kudos to the guitar player. It’s nice seeing younger people so motivated to play and instrument. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your feedback. Will do more videos like this one.
Oh & an honest/realistic review, is VERY helpful, thank you!
This is exactly what I like to do, actual reviews that have no affiliations with manufacturers, distributors, dealers, wheelers, etc.
This is a brilliant video, learnt so much - especially loved the coffee stir stick neck test and the nut detail - liked and subscribed (got to add, the guitar sounds amazing in the demo, sublime tones and phenomenal playing) 😊 thank you
Good to hear it was to your linking.
You had me at "$600 guitar in a $900 case"! LOL!! I'm an instant fan brother. I'm watching and learning. Thanks & Cheers.
The case is actually only $50, but it does have an expensive handle.
Thanks for your comment. Don’t forget to invite others to watch.
Glad I found this channel, best review I have seen. New sub !
Glad to have you on board. Please recommend the channel to friends. Thanks.
Oh, and I hope you don’t miss the sister channel @GuitarDepartment
Really good review, especially as I was considering buying one of these guitars. Beyond that though, I've learned a lot about the instrument in general that I wasn't aware of.
Glad it was helpful. Are you still going to buy it?
@@GuitarQuackery Another channel suggested the Epiphone 1959 LP Standard Outfit ADB, so I'm looking at that now. $500 less. ;-)
i turned my 2011 Epiphone Bonomassa Goldtop darkback into a greeny Goldtop , it has grovers, rosewood fretboard , longneck tenon, mis matched nobs, switchcraft, CTS pots, mallory caps, 9.5 pounds with old epiphone headstock New Changes: Greenybuckers replaced burstbuckers 2/3 - orange drop caps replaced the mallory caps - ernie ball 9's it is even more of a wooly beast than before
funny review
Yeah, I would personally suggest doing exactly that. Converting another guitar and making it your own signature model.
I believe people have also suggested, converting a Led Paul Tribute into a Greeny.
And Dylan of Dylan Talks Tone also has a tutorial on how to “make” your own Greeny pickup.
The volume change from 10 to 9 is due to the pickups being out of phase. When both bols ar at 10, maximum signal cancelation occurs. As soon as there is a volume differential, the cancelation lessens, hence the volume increase. If you watch Peter Green performing with Fleetwood Mac, you can see Green constantly using the volume control, he was a pro at using the multitude of out of phase tones that can be created with that configuration. By the way, it is believed that the flipped magnet in the neck pickup that creates the out of phase condition was a Gibson factory defect in 1959.
Thank you very much for this information. Hope people read it.
They really dropped the ball with the epi greeny especially at $1500. Feels like a cash grab for young metallica fans.
I got an epi alex lifeson for $900 and was surprised at how nice it is. Everything was perfect. Beautiful guitar.
Epiphone nowadays really makes high quality guitars. Of course, there will be variations, depending on which factory workers worked in them, but overall, they are high quality guitars, for the money. The $1,500 price tag is too high, though. Make sure you don't miss my latest Epiphone Les Paul Review czcams.com/video/hDh8zxV9WP4/video.html for the 60s Standard model.
Well , you got me to like & subscribe. Your breakdown was excellent. The video is very informative. Your use of the microscopes, which I have never seen done before is excellent. And I learned a few good tips. Your delivery is very cool & different. I assume your in NYC. Can you tell us where?
Thank you very much for your feedback. I'm glad you clicked like & subscribe and I would also like to suggest clicking the share button, if you know anyone that would benefit from this content, to help grow the channel.
Making this content has been affecting my turnaround time in a big way and is making a big dent in the business. But if I can monetize this channel, at least it will help me continue doing this.
Thanks.
To answer your question, yes, I am in NYC. In fact, there are two locations. One is the old location, in Brooklyn, and the other one is the newer location in Midtown Manhattan, in a shared space with Music Makers NY (the rehearsal studio). Both businesses are easy to find on Google, if you are in NYC.
If you're interested in finding out more about the location, you might want to watch the new location announcement video czcams.com/video/hc9ZYB2alPQ/video.html that shows you around the studio.
Thanks buddy.
It is a Chibson, it just says Epiphone instead of Gibson on the headstock.
If we changed the logo to Chibson, it would actually improve the appearance of the headstock, LOL.
Best way to show what 50s wiring does hook a multi meter to it put in the middle position dial one pick up down to one it is interesting
I just did this procedure. The output measures 1.8 ohms, when I turn one of the volume pots down to 1.
Excellent video! Great to have found your channel. The best tech in town.
Thank you for your kind words. I’m not sure I can live up to “the best tech in town,” but I do feel comfortable with the title, “the best tech on the block,” LOL.
@@GuitarQuackery ok the only tech on the block that I would trust with my guitar. I have a new build that needs a new bone nut.
Well, I don’t know what any of that means and I’ve never done it before, but I’m willing to give it a try.
Really enjoyed this analytical style of review and also the humour :)) Being an addict i did consider buying this thing, but at 1500 of our UK pounds managed to resist. I agree with your comments about the headstock and in particular the truss rod cover ...so incongruous. I'm certain if i had pressed the "buy now" the old buyer regret would have raised its head, especially if I'd watched your vid post purchase lol Just found your channel so looking forward (and probably back too) to some great content.
I am actually planning to do a follow up video, which will be a theoretical discussion about what could be done to this guitar to upgrade it, which will not be a logical option for anyone that has to pay a tech.
I'll certainly watch this, but still not prepared to spend £1500 on an Epiphone built with low cost labour / overheads. If I want the 'greeny' thing I'll buy a used Gibson LP standard and swap the pickups ...sell the 'buckers for around £200. Maybe with all the hype I might be over the "greeny" thing :)
@@keithtt7798 I think, if one is going to have several Les Paul guitars, it does make sense to have one of them with these pickups. But I agree with you that it doesn't make sense to spit out $1,500 for an Epiphone that's mass produced in the same factory where $600 Epiphones come from.
I love mine and I've owned at least 15 Gibson Les Paul's..I M also had 25 of the best guitarists in Nashville as cartage clients for 15 years . Gibson snobs can't stand that Epiphone is getting waaay better at their signature models . You know what they say about opinions. right ?
Great video my friend! I wonder how will this guitar react to a hi gain amp.
I kind of wanted to test that, but the video was already getting too long. Perhaps next time, next guitar. Thank you, Doctor.
So the neck magnet is flipped but is it also wired out of phase??
Correct. Both of those mods have bene replicated from the original Greeny , but the fact that it is rotated 180 degrees is not the modification that produces the out of phase sound.
Hello! Great review. Questions! Did you work on the nut, level those few frets, tighten the trust rod, and level those picks up? My concern is with the nut, what could I do to make it right without necessarily getting a new nut?
Feel free to watch the follow up video czcams.com/video/Un8Rj1BoVBM/video.html to see what I eded up doing with the guitar. I just talked about upgrades and I did show how to fix the tilt of the pickups, but did not do any actual work. I returned the guitar, then paid a little extra and bout a Gibson R8 (reissue 1958) Les Paul.
This looks like a hand filed nut, which is not what we typically see on Epiphone Les Paul guitars. This might be a good nut material, I really cant say one way or another. My first attempt to repair the nut, if I wanted to do it on a lower budget, would be to take the time to file down these string slots correctly and to clean up all the shredded parts that the files would produce. A nylon nut would also look like this if one doesn't take the time to clean up the shreds.
Hope this helps and thanks for dropping by.
It's plain ole' amusing what has become of, "The Greeny" since f**king Kirk Hammett bought it?!! I mean, Peter Green AND Gary Moore owned that guitar & it's now known as The Kirk Hammett Greeny?!! Then he carves his initials in the back of it? People are making a big deal out of the, "Open book headstock." Man, Epiphone Japan Les Pauls are beautiful guitars & they have had a Gibson headstock for decades. And a rosewood fretboard! The Lemon Drop finish or even just an Amber finish have always been favorites of mine. But man, somehow I don't find myself being overly excited about an overpriced guitar, associated with a guitar player, from Metallica. Gary Moore? Yeah man kinda, a bit more inspiring.
It is, in fact, a guitar with a really long name, the Kirk Hammett Greeny Epiphone Les Paul. Let’s see what other names get attached to it and times to come.
I've had my Epiphone Greeny for 4 days now. This is a very well made guitar and no it's not a Chibson. It kinda reminds me of a Gibson Tribute Les Paul. Oh yes I'm going to name mine Gary.
An Epiphone with a Gibson open book headstock huh? Nice!
Except Gibson Tributes, have no binding. Well I had a 60's Tribute & it wasn't bound anyway.
@@user-er3lp9pc5eIt’s a China made copy (a Chibson indeed).
I’ve got a Epiphone 1959 Les Paul and a Epiphone 1959 ES355 and they play and sound as good as any Gibson that I’ve owned. And according to the rest of the world, being made in the USA isn’t that good anymore.
Sure, but it is important to point out that every guitar should be looked at separately, regardless of make and model. We can't review guitars like we review smart phones. Guitars are made of wood and there are no two identical pieces of wood to begin with. And guitars are not made to the same tolerances as car engines, computers, etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks for dropping by.
I had a Vintage v100 pgm model one of them early ones ,proper maple cap long neck tenon 300 bucks.
Yeah, but did it come with a $900 hard case? LOL
Ha Ha No,but i find you cant normally play a case and if it is to classy someone might think whats inside this case and try to take it.@@GuitarQuackery
I’m not hating on this but I wouldn’t plop down $1,500 on an Epi w/a veneer top and not even rosewood board. Even older Epis have rosewood. Laurel is great but not on a guitar approaching $2k that checks many other boxes.
It seems as though Gibson/Epiphone just got tired of cheaper but damn good quality (at times) Chibsons and just made their own.
I’m torn here because I love to see better options in the budget lines but when those instruments eclipse the prices of similarly priced higher end models then I start missing the point.
The waters have gotten muddy.
I do laugh though because the folks that buy the high luxury models of these Gibsons, they just don’t seem as special with 27 other versions of their guitar.
It’s a wacky guitar world right now as we all await the next Epi version of Kirk’s black LP Custom 🤨 Great breakdown though.
Quite a few people feel that way.
It is clear that they have in fact done more high-quality work on this guitar then they normally do on Epiphone Les Paul models. But the price is in fact too high. It would be a good price if it was made in the USA, or in Japan. But I do not like the veneer top, regardless where it’s made.
Did you measure the resistance, or inductance of the pickups while turning the volume knob?
I did not. I had a lot on my mind, and I forgot to measure the pickups. I should have.
I have a Gibson Les Paul R8 with 50s wiring. When I turn the volume pots on my R8, the volume does not get bumped up when dialing down from 10 towards 9.
I wish I had dug a little deeper into this issue, which is clearly a problem.
To be honest, I’m struggling with time management. Doing these videos absorbs a lot of my time. I hope you understand.
Thanks.
These are probably made in the same factories as the counterfeit ones now.
I've heard this theory being bounced around. I guess that would be a good investigative topic for KDH, if there's something to be uncovered.
$2750 AUD in Australia.... when you can buy many Gibsons for the same price. on the used market :) These are just over priced for the suckers. Are you serious with the pickups??? greenies guitar was famous for the the sound.... and that was because he put the pickup in back the front by mistake.,.... instant magic.
Friend, I regret to say that you are incorrect. But don't just take my word for it, as it is a well established fact, what causes the "Greeny" sound. Just go to Dylan Talks Tone czcams.com/video/mdBT9Mr5T3E/video.html to the 8:48 time mark on his video and see for yourself how Dylan explains it. And please be easy on your comments.
Buying an 300-500 dollar Epiphone and putting in the overpriced greeny pick ups would save you around 700-900 dollars but I'm not exactly smart with money either. Even child labor is getting too expensive
Yeah, I know... In fact, I've already seen some CZcamsrs make this exact comment. Dylan, from Dylan Talks Tone also put out an instructional video on how to mod your own pickup to make it a "greeny".
Really tho, for what I'm seeing here, it's on par with Chibson
Oh no, I definitely would not say so. My biggest issue is that it is overpriced.
What a fantastic video have a fantastic weekend also do you have regrets when looking back in life ❤😊
I definitely have plenty of regrets, when looking back in life. Even when looking back a week ago (like thinking about some repair jobs I've committed to, that I should not have gotten involved with).
Why do you ask?
@@GuitarQuackery to be honest I look back sometimes to wish my life could be different without regrets
I think most people will have a regrets. Life is full of ups and downs.
Well that was the most thorough review I've ever seen . But that playing demo was horrid .
In that case, I'm sure you are at least happy I wasn't the one doing the playing demo, LOL.
This is what's known as, quality control! Slap that sticker on & smoke another cigarette!
There is definitely an opportunity for improvements, and the finishing stages of manufacturing.
Thank you for the good video!
I REALLY Don't know Who, In his right mind, put 1500 dollars To purchase this! 😂
Thank you for your positive feedback, Interestingly, I already got one thumb's down, in the first hour of this video. I really can't figure out what in the world to do differently, on a guitar review.
@@GuitarQuackeryI wouldn’t worry, I really think that some people use the thumbs down as a lazy ignorant way to tell the algorithm to not recommend your videos to them.
Keep it up, I loved the microscope camera views
Thank you for the thumbs up. I’ll keep the microscope running.
Because a country does not have the same standards of living as others doesn't mean it's slave labor.
Something to keep in mind while usuing your cell phone next time.
Otherwise, EXCELLENT content.
PS: Epiphone headstocks have always sucked.
Yes, I understand, the “slave labor“ remark is more broadly applied.
Sometimes parents bring me guitars, complaining that their kids broke the pots or the output jack. I explain that on most guitars made in China or Indonesia the hardware is typically not tightened, so when you turn the pots or use the output jack eventually the solder joints break.
Then they complain that their kids need the guitar back as soon as possible and they want it right away, yada, yada, yada… and why don’t they tighten the hardware properly?
They don’t think of the people who make those guitars, and how much those people get paid to tighten all the components properly. And they don’t ask themselves if their own kids would tighten all of those same components, if they got paid the same wages?
Wow. The 300th yt review of this dud of a guitar. How original.
$50 bucks says that the vast majority of sales with this model, regardless of price point, are to yt reviewers.
The purpose of my review, to be perfectly honest, was to attract more views, so I can get monetized. It totally worked.
@@GuitarQuackery ....Except that the view you got from me was only a few seconds and came with a smash on the "don't recommend channel" button.
Feed that to the algorithm...
I can totally understand that you don’t even like the idea of a review of this guitar. I don’t like that guitar myself. I am simply trying to make useful content for guitar players who need access to helpful Guitar tech information.
I noticed that review videos get views. We all know that this is an overrated guitar, so I used it to get more clicks. If you watch the video, you will see that it’s not a positive review, but you were also find information that will be useful to you in other ways, as I do reviews in ways, that other channels do not.
For what it’s worth, I believe you should give it a fair try and watch some of the videos that I’ve posted. I’m sure you will find a helpful information in some of the videos.
How many guitar factories are there in China? We've all played Chinese guitars some better than others with some extremely good indeed.
There is an old Chinese proverb that says 'too much science and not enough art makes Jack a dull boy'
There is an old Chinese proverb, that says, “China is one in Ormus guitar factory.”
I honestly don’t know how many guitar factories there are in China. I’ve heard some talk on CZcams that there aren’t that many.
Of course, the quality is getting better, because it’s all CNC made. Like a Toyota car, when all the industrial robots are precisely calibrated, they will produce consistent products.
In fact, Epiphone guitars are more consistent than Gibson guitars. That’s because at the Gibson factory they still employ a lot of hand work.
Lots of people will buy this guitar...Lots of fools.
If these Epiphone prices continue to go up, they will have to start a budget company for those who cannot afford an Epiphone.
@@GuitarQuackery exactly...Gibson is once again ripping it's customers off.
While it should be the goal of any financially healthy company to maximize their profits and minimize their losses, it is clear that sometimes companies don’t exactly offer value for the higher price tag.
While it is true that Epiphone guitars have improved significantly in quality, in the past few years, it is also true that this one is greatly overpriced.
This is a guitar that is mass produced in China. A quick look through the microscope clearly shows that they did not employ anyone with higher skills to work on the nut or the frets.
What added to the higher price tag is the shape of the headstock, the signature model details, the hard case, the Gibson, pick ups, high-quality electronic components, the new bridge design (with wobbly posts) and possibly a better selection of woods.
But at the end, this is still just a guitar that’s mass produced in China.
They should’ve built this one in the USA plant and priced it at $1,800. and for that price, they could have not used that flame maple veneer, which cheapens the whole guitar. I would much more prefer a simple maple cap (which is in fact, what is already underneath that veneer), regardless of how fancy the grain looks, or doesn’t look.
@@GuitarQuackerydon't forget about the long neck tenon, and the mother of Pearl inlays. MOP inlays on a Epiphone is a premium spec!
@@Hotelguitarplayer Sure. I did in fact forget to mention those details in this video. Thanks for pointing this out.
I don’t think you know how half’s work 🤣
Are you referring to the tone pots?
@@GuitarQuackery no. You said this video has 4 halves. The correct term would be quarters but I knew what you meant. Great channel by the way. I subbed.
Oh, I see. That was part of the humor.
The guy you see on the screen really me, the way I really am in real life. That guy is a quack. He doesn’t know how halves work. But he is half real and half fictitious character.
I like to flirt with humor that can sometimes come across as ambiguous. So I guess in this case, it wasn’t crystal clear if I was being serious, or incompetent, or if it was just a slip up.
It was in fact fully scripted and in this video, I was reading the text from the teleprompter.
@@GuitarQuackery I knew you were joking hence my little 🤣 at the end. Otherwise, I might’ve given you one of 🤔 or possibly even a 😳 but since you thoroughly explained in case I really believed you think 4 halves make 1 whole, I’ll give you a 👍.
To devalue someone's work without knowing what all is really going on to create it is very shortsighted and lacks true understanding .
I honestly don’t understand what you are referring to. Who is devaluating whose work? What true understanding?
Promo-SM 😚
I don’t understand what this means.
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Right on.
My USA Fender Strat plus destroys this hyped up junk
I don’t doubt that. Although a USA Ferrer is supposed to be better, anyway. Like I said, in the video, this is a $600 guitar inside of a $900 case.
@@GuitarQuackery I guess if you are really into the greeny guitar then it might make someone very happy but I would personally just get a different Epi and have greeny pick ups installed for less money
It’s most overrated and overpriced guitar of the year
I think you might be right about that.