Printer Comparison between The CANON PRO-1000, PRO-10 and the PRO-100
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BUT...Here is is the comparison everyone wanted to see. The King of Bench top Printers The CANON IPF PRO-1000 with OEM inks against the Lowly CANON Pixma PRO-100 running on Precisioncolors ink set and Aardenburg ICC Profile for CANON PRO Luster Paper.
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Great comparison! Thanks for this. Loving my Pro-100. 70 cent refills and great color can't be beat. Thanks again!
Imagine if you were using OEM inks!!!!
Would there really be that much difference? The banding you pointed out would still be present, right? Other than that, the color was spot on. I'm just getting ready to replace an OEM cart (Gray) with PC. The change-over is starting!
I only said that because OEM would be the base line for the highest top quality results. PC is so darn close to the "Superior" PRO-1000 that it makes you think twice. If you need my ICC let me know
You've all ready given it to me. Thanks again!
Awesome.
Watching your videos from last few weeks, A year back , i got Basic 4 ink AIO printer from canon and loving quality of color photos. 2 Months back i bought Canon ip8770, took many comparison pics, and it was like day-night difference. Just as hobby, nothing serious in my case.
your videos are great learning. BIG THANKS TO YOU
José, Saludos. Thanks for all the superb information on printers. I’m looking into buying a PRO 100 and was worried about the high cost of OEM inks. I appreciate all the time you have put on videos for newbies like me. Looking forward to watching your other videos.
Watch some.more of my PRO100 a d CLI-42 videos so you can avoid common mistakes. Thanks man!
Sure like this guy. He's a character.
Thank you for the comparison, it looks very professional and convincing. I guess I'll go for Pro-100s
Not a bad choice!
Thanks so much. Great job. I'm happy to see that the non OEM ink seems OK for "standard" stuff. Well done
The paper is but not the inks we are using on it. Not using OEM.
Thank you so much for such a useful, helpful comparison video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Puerto Rico 😁🙌🏾 🇵🇷. Wife and I are about to pick up a pro 100. Thanks for the insight!
Suena tremendo!
I'll be watching all of your videos.....thank you!
Thank you. I hope you continue to find them useful.
Another great video and education. Thank you
Thank you Tomas!
Great video Jose. Thank you!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. It sure opened my eyes concerning this family of printers and just how good they really are.
Dear sir, thank you for this comparison. Always a pleasure to see your videos.
You'd be the first ever reviewer of pro printers if you made some macro footage of these prints. That way we could judge for ourselves, close up and in high res.
Anyway, it's just a thought. Thanks again!
This was a color comparison and not a print detail test. That's why I decided to not make it a pick peeping video. Believe me. I could not see any image detail differences between tbe two.
@@cheo1949 Ok, I understand. Thank you for responding.
Thank you, excellent video!
Thank you.
This video answers my questions about the difference between the pro 10 and the pro 1000. Really informative. I am 95% leaning towards buying a Pro 10. Almost convinced. The step towards a pro 1000 is just too pricey, and I need to get things moving and build up some experience with this kind of printer first. Thank you again!
The truth is the differences are minimal! The PRO-1000 has the advantage in deep blues and purples and reds. But it is all dependent on the image. Tomorrow I will put up a new video of. My PRO-100 wit PC inks with semigloss using my new ICC profile I just made with my new equipment. The results were fabulous.
Looking forward to it.
THANKS FROM NZ ,YOUR THE MASTER,I'LL BE BUYING A p-100 !
Enjoy that printer.
Invaluable. Many thanks.
Thank you.
At 14:19 when the Pro-10 B&W is at an angle you can see the magenta casting. Any surface that exhibits any sort of color cast, at angles they do so even more. At 14:38 when he moves the Pro-1000 B&W in the same position as the Pro-10, and angles the paper you don't really see any casting. Jose was spot on about his observation and these casts can be amplified when you view the print surface at an angle.
Thank you Tio 😉
Interesting as usual. By the way, your Canon 29 Pro-1 carts arrived safe and sound in northern Australia. Thanks.
Great. It normally takes about a week to get to OZ and then for ever to get to the location depending where you live. Thanks.
Hi Jose, the place in orange red color, I think it's call the waves. It's somewhere close to Page AZ.
Thanks. I would love to go there someday!
You tell it like it is. Thank you
I try.
Hi Jose, I’ve watched many of your videos (love them thank you) but I’m still not sure which printer I should buy and which inks, dye or pigment for printing on 100% cotton water colour art paper. Is the Canon pro 100 suitable? TY
Hi Jose, I am on the fence between the pro-10 and the pro-1000 now that I am buying a new camera there is crazy rebates bundled with cameras. Which one will be more costly to maintain over time / use more ink per print / cost per ml? (I'm talking oem ink but possibly interested in 3rd party ink too if it's not affecting longevity much). Thanks so much @jtoolman
Very well done video. Learned a few new terms for printing. If I may suggest, you should do a video of your work space; It looks well organized.
What????? No way. It is a huge cluttered mess right now. I have vide called print room tour when it was semi organized.
Jose Rodriguez thanks for the reply! I’ve been watching your videos throughout the day ...I like them and I have subscribed. Thank you again
Thank you.
Muchas gracias por su trabajo, saludos desde el norte argentino.
Gracias!
Thanks for the video. I am still trying to figure out what is a best new printer is for me.
That is always a hard choice which is why at my highest point I had 22 different printers.
Wow Alf garnet look alike, great video thankyou. Lovely guy.
I look like someone? I hope he's famous!
Alf Garnett was the main character in a legendary UK sitcom that ran from the mid '60s till the early 90's. Happy New Year and thanks for all your videos. I've just worked out why my newly bought, refilled, second hand Pro 10S is on half ink after only a dozen or so prints - it gets unplugged after each session so runs through the main cleaning cycle each time! A small fortune in ink being dumped each time!
Hi Jose, I would love to get hold of that ICC profile for the Pro 100 for PC inks and Pro Lustre paper.
EMAIL me. tooljoe1949@yahoo.com
Jose Rodriguez What printer do you use?
Nice job as alway Jose, very informative. FYI. There seemed to be some electrical noise on the audio
Yes. My voice recorder out of the blue added some hum I had to reduce in my editor. Hope that did not detract from the main content. It occasionally does that and I am not about to redo a whole video due to some minor audio problem.
Jose Rodriguez strangely it was more prevalent when listening on my iPad but not when watching on my Apple TV.
I don't hear any only computers and my TV on a BOSE audio system. The other videos I shot the same day had no buzz.
Grant LeSueur that’s why we all need to donate. Better equipment is key
Hi Jose, I have been watching your videos amazing info thanks.I have just purchased a Canon ProGraf 1000 i am well pleased with it. On one of you videos i heard you mention something about a Canon account to work out the cost per pictures would you happen to have the Link for this please. Keep up the good work mate.
CANON Accounting Tool or Software.
Hi José, you could make a video explaining how to create the profile and how to install it on the pro-10 printer. because as I said my printer is new and uses the original cartridges and even then I do not have a pretty impression.
You are not looking. Go to my Color Management Workflow play list! It's all there.
Thanks for wonderful content Jose!
What is the new PC inkset for Pro-100 that you mentioned, I didn't find any information on PC's website. Can you please elaborate? I just got my Pro-100 and so very curious about new ink-set
The NEWS is about the PRO-1-10-and 1000 the PRO-100 is coming and it is not finalized yet but there will be an improved much less fade prone Yellow and Black inks. These are the main problem colors in MOST Dye Ink Sets concerning longevity.
Hi Jose! Thank you for your videos. I only just started watching your videos and am enjoying your content!
I am trying to help a client setup a fashion design business, so prints will likely be more design oriented with emphasis on shading, lines and colour accuracy, however, I noticed most of your videos are aimed at photography reproductions. I am leaning towards the Pro-10S, particularly because of the added Chroma Optimizer ink tank and the enhancements it gives.
My first question is, based on what I need the printer for, are there alternatives in the same league as the Pro-10S, without breaking the bank - the Pro-10S in Australia retails at $950.
Also, I am taking into account the cost of OEM ink and don't intend on using compatible or refill cartridges. I see in your videos "Exactly how long does it take to saturate the Pro 100 Waste ink Pads" you recommend having 2 sets of cartridges, so that once one cartridge is empty, you would replace the whole set and then take your time to refill the used set and have that ready for the next swap. This is to reduce waste of ink from the purge cycle from replacing the cartridges.
My second question is, since I am not planning to use refills, replacing the whole set is not going to be feasible. With that in mind, should I replace the empty cartridge as well as any cartridge that are below a certain level (eg. below 5 or 10%)? Or, only replace the cartridge that is empty?
Thanks again Jose for sharing your expertise with the community. You're a wealth of knowledge.
Yes the pro 10s is excellent.
Australian prices are ridiculously high. Anything above the PRO-10 would probably be astronomical.
The pads saturate...when they saturate. There is no set time or formula to try to predict it!
Only a service center can reset the waste ink counter and replace the pads.
The full cart replacement strategy is only for refillers. Not if you are using OEM only!
PRO-10 carts can be use till fully empty.
my dear friend jose, I could recommend where to get the rechargeable cartridges for my new printer canon pixma 100. thanks in advance.
You do not EVER use refillable cartridges. You modify your own original carts to refilling. Never anything else.
I'm using a paxmia 9000 mrk 2 with octoinks and I've been impressed with it the only thing I do notice is sometimes you can see little dimples where it's pulled the paper through, Considering a 1000 or 2100 though but I want to sell prints soon.
Start wheel transport marks. Not much that you can do. It occurs on some types of papers and on dark areas.
@@cheo1949 OH that figures does selecting the correct paper thickness affect it also as when I run some profiles it's much much less
Hi Master .Would you please tell me what should i do and what step should i do to print a perfect picture. I have pro-100 printer, but i do not know how to figure it out.
It's not rocket science. Have you looked at my dozens of pro-100 videos? This is all here for you! Here is one of them.
czcams.com/video/fiYfoDpKk5Y/video.html
Jose, I recently found your channel and really enjoy it. What would you recommend between the pro 100 and new pro 300? I am a hobbyist and will be printing mostly gloss and satin prints. Can I use aftermarket inks with either? Do you have a video on this?
The 100 and 300 are two totally different animals. 100 is DYE and is great on NON MATTE media the PRO-300 is good on Non Matte and great on Matte. The PRO-100 can use 3rd party inks on your OEM carts after modification and the PRO-10 can be refilled easily but the chips can not be reset. So OEM is the only reliable option.
I'm going to be getting the Pro-1000 printer. Thanks for all of your advice Jose! Which RotoTrim paper cutter should I be getting to go along with the printer? I saw in one of your videos you cutting down the 18" inch paper pads down to 17" to print using the Pro-1000. Thanks again!
Mine is an old one 12x28 maybe? No longer made but there are MUCH better ones now.
Please consider using my Amazon site for ordering if you decide to get one.
www.amazon.com/shop/joserodriguez
Halo sir Rodriguez i am about 1 year and a halfe in photography and i want to print an sale my fotos , i am about to buy a canon pro 10 but am thinking also the pro 100 , which one do you recomend for me , which is faster and wirelles and kosts not so for chanching every time catridges ? i was to buy an pro 1 but its too heavy and has not wifi and i think its too old i need one new
All three models are just as old.
The pro-100/10 have full support for refilling.
The 100 carts require modification.
The 10 does not.
Both carts are small
Wi-Fi is Not the best way to print images.
USB is the most reliable.
The PRO-1 can be refilled but you need modified carts which I sell plus single use chips you must install because the OEM chips can not be reset like those of the 100/10.
Now since you want to sell, all are suitable. But if you are going to use 3rd party inks then the 100 is out. Only the 10 and 1 are you best candidates.
Supplies for all can be purchased from www.precisioncolors.com
Hi Jose, Thank you for the videos you have been posting. I know this is older video but I am in the market for a printer, to start printing you own work. I have to say I am a bit confused and going back and forth with which Canon printer to get. I have been leaning to get the Pro 10 but when I think about the future and maybe looking to print larger and also to have a more current model I am thinking that the 1000 might be best. Right now at B&H has good deals on both with rebate. Unless you know of a better deal out there? :) Any way over the last few day I have watched a few of you video and subscribe to your channel. One of you videos you talk about being new to printing and not going all in. I can respect that but what about the age of the Pro 10 model on the market and being a bit behind in the next few years when something newer comes out? So I am curious what you advise would be for someone that is not going to print like an animal but still wants great quality? Oh yeah, I will mostly be printing black and white images. Thanks, Dave
Just go ahead and get the canon PRO10 here is a link for the best deal of the year!
czcams.com/video/ICL5w3TDBaY/video.html
It will be perfect for black and white
you sir are an awesome Pro.
Thanks. But please keep it clean. That does not help my channel.
@@cheo1949 yes sir
Hey Jose, nice videos! I had a question, between the pro 10 and pro 100, which printer would you recommend? Thanks
Probably the PRO-10. One is dye x 8 and the other pigment x 10 colors. Difference in output? Negligible. Longevity of prints? The PRO-10. Easier to refill? The PRO-10 as no cart modifications are required.
HI Jose ,what printer would you recommend for printing large forma`t posters and music show flyers?suerte con todo y gracias !
I just don’t now how I can have confidence in the longevity of the prints with non-OEM inks. I can buy either a new 100 for $75 or a new 10 for $99. But which?
Of course oem inks are better. No argument from me there. Where can you get a 100 and 10 for $100. I am sure you meant after rebate. No the can be refilled but you don't want to do that right? Then the PRO-10.
Hi M Rodriguez, almost a year later, do you still recommand the pro-10?
Did Canon improved that printer since?
No new printer updates since then and yes I recommend the PRO-10
Since when is the Pro-100 "Lowly", LOL? Great content, Jose
I have Canon Pro 100. I want to upgrade to print wider papers and also use rolls to print. Can you please suggest a good printer?
Hey Jose, just saw your video and I loved it. You sound like someone I know but can't recall who. Anyway my wife and I have a custom button making business (along with coasters and other things). So we want to buy a printer. So I guess my question is which printer should I get (ink types too) if I'm doing color photos? We don't do too many b&w photos. Also would these options still be good to buy today or should we go with something a little newer? Thank you.
What did ya end up going with?
Did you print on an IpP8750 canon printer? Possibly compared to canon pro100s? I want to buy a printer for photos and graphics but pro 100s is a lot more expensive for me. I found a video on Ruchard Rollinson channel. It seems that this printer is able to print very well. I still wanted someone to compare IP8750 to pro100s, but unfortunately I can not find sample printouts. Regards, Martin.
Are you outside the USA? Because you can get a PRO-100 for a net of $60 after rebates. I have not used nor do I own the IpP8750 canon so can't really comment.
in 2020 is the pro 100 still the one to buy in that price range ? I want to make copies of my photography, mostly glamour. can the Pro 100 use archival paper and ink ?
Their OEM inks are rated for 100 years under "Normal Display Conditions"! The better the paper the more longevity!
Hi there Jose. I'm a bit excited at the thought of printing my own work. I have spent about 2000 dollars sending my work out to be printed over the last 4 years. I do have some questions:
1. I hope to be refilling the carts. What do I need to get started? the redresetter, the inks from precision color, and do I need a scale as well?
2. you mention having 2 sets of carts. can the original, "starter" cartridges which come with the printer be refilled? Should I buy used, empty cartridges on Ebay?
3. Do you advise buying the papers from Canon, or are there similar papers for cheaper elsewhere?
thank you.
Glad to hear you are about to enter the World of Home Photo Printing!
I assume you have a PRO-100 due to your questions?
1: Yes get the refilling kit with the Squeeze Bottles rather than syringes. You will be replacing the original Yellow cart with the replacement already modified one they will provide you. You will switch the chip from your OEM yellow to that one. No you do not need a scale for the PRO-100 refilling as the carts are transparent.
2: Yes the original Setup Carts can be modified and used as part of your first set to modify for refilling except for the YELLOW!
Yes try to find empties in EBAY or buy a second set. In the end it is really a must to have two full sets of carts. Buy an extra replacement Yellow cart as well from PC.
3: CANON Pares well extremely well but so you other manufacturer's papers. I would recommend Red River as a source for reasonably priced great quality papers. Precisioncolors also provides FREE profiles for Red Rive Papers for their inks as well for many other makes.
I will also be providing custom profiling services for a fee beginning next week.
Hope I was able to answer your questions and thank you for watching.
Mr Jose great effort
Would you help me suggest which printer is good and economical for small business, for just A4 papers
A printer whixh can catch the finest of details especially the lighter colour gametes as good as hefty offset monsters
In the A4 category there are only Home Style ALL in ONE printers. I do not have nor use any so I can not suggest a specific model.
I bought a T6 body +18-55 and 70/300 lenses today for $399 delivered. Added Canon Pro100 for $399. Getting a $350 rebate ($798 - $350). $498 net for T6 + 2 lenses and Pro100
Nice deal.
@@cheo1949 Oops $448 net :) for all
Still good.
Jose: Set to buy Pro 100 or Pro 10 for on site printing at sports tournaments. Looks like speed I'd different however they use the same cartridges so cost is same? Thanks
The 10 and 100 do not use the same carts. Totally different. The PRO-100 is sponge based and a bit tricky to get just right after refilling and the PRO-10 uses a cart with an internal ink bag and is a piece of cake to reset and refill.
I'm confused between pro100 and pro10 for archival quality fine art printing. Are the inks of pro100 archival inks like pro10 or only high quality inks? I understand that pro100 uses dye based ink and pro10 uses pigment based ink, but people are saying both are good quality. Please advice. Thank you.
Just what do you mean by archival? Will the PRO-100 OEM ink prints last decades? Yes!
Will the PRO-10 OEM Ink Prints last decades? Yes!
It's not so much the inks any longer. The paper is just as important.
Your print viewing conditions and environment will also have a HUGE effect on so called longevity. There are TONS of variables.
So Prints can last months before they show first signs of fading or last Decades before they show signs of fading.
Just use the best inks and the best Papers ( Non Resin Coated but Fine art papers without OBAs ) and protect your prints before displaying ie Frames under glass and coatings and they will have the best start against environmental fading.
@@cheo1949 thank you so much for a quick response. In one of your videos/comments you mentioned that Pro-100 is an entry level printer for learning the process, since I'm planning for a professional ( I'm a watercolor artist) use (stickers, archival prints, etc) which one would you recommend? Also, can the Pro - 100 take all types of paper like the Pro - 10? Sorry for too many questions. It's very confusing. I see artists using both PRO-100 and PRO-10. Thank you.
Hi Jose, I've had the Canon Pro 10s for about a year and whilst I think it's a good printer in terms of quality, I do find it seems to run the regular (not deep) cleaning cycle pretty much what seems like non-stop. Well, not literally, but whenever I turn it on it does it, prior to printing it does it, if I print then wait a few minutes and print again, it runs the cleaning cycle again! Do you know if this is normal? I know it needs to keep the nozzles clear but the amount of self-cleaning it does seems crazy. Thanks!
When you say Turn It On do you mean Power it on from the Power button?
That's your problem.
You should never ever power off any of the CANON PRO series printers.
The PRO-10 will run a large ( Long ) cleaning cycle when you power it off.
There are also timed cycles that will be triggered after 60 hours between the LAST cleaning cycle that was triggered.
So if you sent a print job at noon today and it was preceded by a cleaning cycle, you will be to print as much or as little as possible for the next 60 hours without a print job being initiated with a cleaning. Once 60 and one second passes from that one previous cleaning cycle, then the NEXT print job you generate WILL be preceded by a cleaning cycle and the clock starts all over again. I don't think you've see all my videos on this subject. I've beaten it to death. There is NOTHING that we do about these type of auto maintenance as it is, believe it of not, required by Thermal Printhead Technology,
cuales son los cartuchos oem que requieren comiendas para la canon pro 100? acabo de comprar una y quisiera recomendaciones costo / calidad, también que papeles recomiendas? soy mas de impresión mate que glossy gracias de antemano
La Canon PRO100 no tienen tints negra mate. No la recomiendo para papeles mate. Solo papeles con brillo.
Thanks for this comparison video. I have read all the comments to try to find my answer.....I am a watercolor artist and want to makes prints of my work. Do you have a printer recommendation for this type of art? Thanks.
Watercolor papers for inkjet printing are Matte so you will need a Pigment ink printer. Either EPSON or CANON has great printers. Select them according the size capacity of prints that you will producing. I do not usually recommend a particular model as it is very subjective.
Jose, did you compare the Aardenburg profile with your own profile made with the ColoMunki Photo? I find the Aardenburg profile too dark and contrasty.
I have and for my prints I prefer Aardenburg profile. Mine is not good among the complete RGBYMC bubble. Yes it goes further into the "South and North " poles of the gamut. So yes you will see more contrast on your editor images. So if that is not what you desire then you can do a CMP profile.
Hello Jose, Very interesting !
Do you or anyone else knows an alternative provider of good quality 3rd party ink provider ... since I cannot order Precision colours in Europe (Belgium actually) ?
www.octoink.co.uk
Hi Josh, thanks for the insight. Im looking to purchse a pro 10, but as im residing in Singapore, are there any good third party ink that you can reccommend? Thank you !
I really have not idea. See if precisioncolors.com will.ship to you.
hi I live in singapore aswell. Any luck in finding a good third party ink? im currently looking for one aswell
Jose I bought this epsom p600 and I started up a project in printing a cd project.. I printed the Disc amazingly but when I tried printing my covers on gloss paper the quality was not there.. any time on how I can get it to print quality cd covers?
I have no clue. You have given me practically zero details to sift through other than Glossy paper. .
First of all thank you for posting videos on the capacity of this awesome printer Jose..
I’m just wondering how to get my printer to give me amazing print for CD jackets n booklets... I tried printing on 2 different kinds of paper etc and I still got an over loaded paint looking result.
Are you using EPSON Papers? You should be getting amazing results.
Good afternoon dear Jose, I bought a pro 100 and I can not have the images as they are on the screen, I'm new to this printing area.
I would like to ask for a help, I created a profile for the color munki and still the images are terrible. Would you help me ?
Color Managed Workflow!!!! Color Managed Workflow!!!! Color Managed Workflow!!!!
I have a color management play list with numerous videos and many specific for the PRO-100. I can not tell you what you are doing wrong so I can only suggest you refer to those videos and it will come to you. It could be MANY reasons why you are not getting the results you expect. And remember that you will never match the screen 100%
dear, thank you very much for the quick response and the willingness to help, I will urgently seek out these videos, because the pro 100 is new and I can not print anything beautiful.
Please Keep watching my videos.
I was looking into getting the Pro-100, but when I read it was dye based inks only that turned me off. Maybe I'm overthinking it, letting my mind run wild on it. The thought of fading images sucks.
Their OEM inks are rated for DECADES. Third party inks Prints on GOOD papers will last many years if you take the care to protect them under glass, album, ect. I spray my important PRO-100 prints front and back to seals them against OZONE which fades prints 10-20x faster than UV light alone.
Ok that's a whole different situation then if I'm looking at decades. At my job we sell a couple sprays to protect against UV light, even the Krylon one that's supposed to make prints and documents acid free. Also have clear sealed archival sleeves to protect prints. Maybe I was overthinking it.
Which of between the 10 vs 100 is the easiest to refill and reset with third party inks?
The PRO-100 requires modification of the carts and has to be done correctly and the refilling process done correctly and at the right ink level for it to work correctly. The PRO-10 requires zero modification and refilling is just a matter of physically and directly dripping ink drop by drop on to the exit sponge until you reach a weight of 32 grams. Resetting is the same for both types of carts. I have numerous videos on both refilling techniques!
Hi my name is Craig can you do a video on the Epson sc-p5000
Sure! If I had one!
You stated that your inks fade a lot faster than OEM ink which is understandable but the question I have is how much faster? Are they as water and finger print resistant?
There is no clear answer. It could be 10x or 3x times faster. Environmental conditions are the biggest contributor to fading. There is no clear data available other than very limited uv lightvfade tests by Aardenburg for PC pro1000 nd Pro luster paper. It was rated as highly fugitive compared to oem. Yes it is water and finger print resistant but is all depends on the paper, whether it is one inks or not.
How and where can I find the Aardenberg Icc profile for my Canon Pro-100 printer or is it something special..
It's the files tab of my Facebook group.
How to repair or replace the ink absorber to solve error #1700 & 1701
You don't. Hell, I can't do it. Besides, what printer are we talking about here again?
Hi Jose, Looking at buying the 10 or 100 for a home invitation business I m starting, The difference in gloss images doesn't seem to be much but im looking at doing a lot of matte images. Which would be better for matte paper? Thanks so much!
You would need a printer using matte black when you choose the regular Matte Paper choice. The canon PRO-10 uses Photo Black instead. Only when choosing Fine Art matte papers will it use MK and then it imposes a wide 35mm leave ng and trailing edge border.
So for you I would recommend an Epson P400 or P600 instead. And you should be able to easily produce cards on both glossy/luster and matte media without rose restrictions.
Jose Rodriguez oh dear. I didn't read this in time and purchased the pro 10s. Is there any way to get around this. I would like to use 300gsm a4 paper? Or am I really better off with the Epson?
I will be leaving for 3 months and have a Canon pro 100 using Precision Colors Signature inks. What should I do to prevent the print head from drying out while I'm gone???
Turn it off and seal it in a plastic bag to maintain humidity! When you return, power it back on Cross Fingers and after the cleaning cycle it will perform, run a nozzle check. Of course Cross Fingers again.
are the new ink sets out ? Nice and helpful as I consider the upgrade from my 100
Nope Not yet. Any new ink set for that printer would only have a slightly better Yellow and Black to extend longevity a bit more. No changes in color performance.
Jose Rodriguez thank uu
Hi Jose, my sister and I are debating between getting the Pro-100 or the Pro-10. We are looking for an affordable photo printer just for personal use in printing out our own photos that we will frame. I know the initial price of the Pro-100 is cheaper but I am wondering if in the long run it is cheaper, with ink refills and such. Please help us decide which printer we should get, I will greatly appreciate your opinion!
If you plan on printing only on glossy or luster papers choose the 100. If you ever plan on printing on other types of fine art papers then choose the 10. Refilling will reduce cost but at the cost of quality and longevity. Refilling can also cause problems if not done correctly.
Wow Solar panels - that'll save a bit on having all those printers on 24/7 👍
My survey figured since I will be angle to practically cover both sides of my roof with panels and the orientation of my house to the average direction of the Sun's travel, it will generate about 90% of my average usage in the summer months. And About 70% in the winter. It should save a little bit of money even after the solar company's commission.
Hey Joe sounds a win win deal 👍
How does one go about getting your luster profile? I’d love to check it out since I have a pro100 and use the Canon Pro Luster paper.
I believe I posted it on FILES tab in my Facebook group. Link to join is on my main channel page and on my video descriptions.
@@cheo1949 great thanks! Just requested to join.
Hello Mr Rodriguez. Do you think I can do packages print in different size user the paper 13x19?
You mean the same image but in different sizes onto one sheet of 13x19 paper? Yes! Picture Package.
Yes Sr. Can tell how i can do
You need a tool that a!lows your to do that. Photoshop, Lightroom, Qimage are the best three tools for creation of picture packages.
Im having a 4 year old Pixma Pro-1 that needs replacement... Im using Ilford smooth pearl and luster paper (papers with slight pearly gloss) almost exclusively.. printing A4, A3 and 5x7..i print borderless.. I love the pixma pro-1 prints but i think the carts are expensive and the printing time is very long... I have learned to use the machine but i just want something that produces beautiful prints... I sell my prints to clients..Is Pixma Pro 100s a good choice?
It's a downgrade in my opinion but it will do the job. Use OEM for longevity as it is dye inks. Not good at all for Matte but great for the type you use.
Jose Rodriguez thanks for the reply 😊... would the step up to the 10s give me benefits?(also considering Its client work)Im thinking about print quality , egonomy and speed.. i found the Pro-1 slow.. but again Very handsome prints :-)
The pro-1 was never touted as a production grade printer. It is a one at a time type printer where you take you time with the process.
The pro-10 will not print any faster. The print quality should about equal though maybe a bit less due to the missing two grays.
Jose, I just received my 100, Great Printer and working on the profile with the Mac and canon paper. Question should I turn off the 100 or keep it on after use (not to save electricity but save ink) Gracias!!
Leave it on!! Always print with it before 60 hours of non use.
B the way I have over 80 videos dedicated to the PRO-100
Yes and I thank you for that Info base on those videos I took my decision for the 100. Un Aguadillano agradecido!
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what will happen if you turn it off? also why do at least one print every 60 hours? just trying to understand the motives
Jose, I just watched this video because I have been reading about the Pro 10. I have a Pro 100 and I am thinking about getting a Pro 10 to replace it. From the comparisons in this video it seems that the color production and quality is virtually the same in the two printers. I know the Pro 100 uses dye inks and the Pro 10 uses pigment inks, and thus decreases fading over time. Given PC's new ink formulations for both, are there any other benefits for the Pro 10 I should consider? Particularly considering that I can spray and frame my Pro 100 prints to reduce fading.
Fading will be much less when using Pigment inks but fading has a lot to more to do with the paper you print on and your display conditions. If I want my PRO-100 prints done with non OEM inks I will simply apply a coat of something like MOAB Desert Varnish and that will increase longevity MANY fold. Where Pigment inks have the advantage is when printing on MATTE and Canvas Media!
@@cheo1949 Thanks so much for your response. Since I don't really like matte and don't plan to print on canvas, even though I can get a good deal on the Pro 10, sounds like I should just keep my Pro 100. I assume it will be fine printing on your new favorite paper, the Red River Palo Duro Baryta 300, yes? As well as on the Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss, which I want to try after hearing you and Mike from PC talk about it during your recent interview?
I'm looking at buying a Pro-1000...is the Pro-100 a better printer?
Not even close.
@@cheo1949 just to be clear, you do think the pro-1000 is better than the pro-100.
Yes but it is meant for production and not for once a month printing. Handles All media types. PRO100 is for glossy common resin coated papers.
When will the New Pro-100 inkset be available?
I do not know. I haven't spoken with PC for a few weeks.
You can't beat the Pro 100 for price v. print quality, especially if you don't print larger than 13"x19" very often.
One of the best!
Hola José,
Quisiera saber qué me recomiendas más si la PRO1000 o la PRO10,
Soy fotógrafo de bodas y estaré imprimiendo en este caso fine art. Y la otra pregunta es dónde puedo encontrar las tintas para llenar los taqnues de tinta de la que me recomiendes?
Muchísimas gracias
Saludos
La PRO1000 sela come viva. Es simplemente superior. Si vives aqui en USA puedes ordenar todo a www.precisioncolors.com pero so vives afuera not tengo a quien te puedo recomendar.
@@cheo1949 Much´siimas gracias por tu pronta respuesta José. Lamentablemente no vivo en USA, pero muchas gracias.
I have a question that I can't find the answer too. Does it print on a printable adhesive vinyl well?
For pro 1000
For vinyl you need solvent inks and so you need an Epson setup for that type if ink. Regular photo pigment inks will not gone to vinyl.
@@cheo1949 Thank you! Right now I use a printable vinyl for laser and my regular inkjet. Thought they were the same. Thank you for clearing that up.
Why is the 100 selling for $800 compared to $400 when it first came out? I want to do studio prints like a one hour photo type of print and I just bought a pro 100 for $450 but there is a pro 10 I can get for about $300 which would be best for me? Or should I have both?
Both. They only difference is the 100 is Dye and the 10 is pigment. If you print on glossy 4x6 the go with the 100. If you print on finer art papers go with 10. The 100 is out of production and folk who bought them with massive rebates obtained several. I've seen them for a grand.
hola Jose buenas tardes, siempre hablas por separado del color amarillo y si entendi bien ese color es el que utilizas de fabrica, sobre todo en la Pro 100, esa si?. Muchas gracias por las respuestas
"Utilizas de fabrica"??? No comprendo ese punto.
Jose Rodriguez digo si el amarillo lo utilizas el original el que tu llamarias OM me parece
Si. Si lo prefieres. Yo uso las tintas de precisioncolors.com
Aprendí que la tinta amarilla solamente la amarilla la de fábrica o la original y todas las demás utilizar el precisión color si es así
Todavia no entiendo que me estas preguntando. La regla es no mesclar la tinta amarilla original de CANON con cualqiera otra tinta amarilla porque reacciona an forma mala.
Hi there I would like to buy the canon ip 8750 would you recommend this printer
I do not have one but I've heard is pretty good. Not as Good as PRO-100 but still good.
I have have white lines that go horizontally across my prints after switching to ink owl inks and I'm not sure why. I have ran all the maintenance options to see if that would fix it... No luck
Are sure your nozzle check is perfect? And you don't even tell me what printer your are talking about.
@@cheo1949 I am going to check the nozzels again. I'm using a pro 10.
@@cheo1949 Just noticed one of my black cartridges was dry on top for some reason I replaced it with another one and I'm going to run some tests
Still no luck.
So the lines are going horizontally across the page and they are very light they show up on black and white prints only.
i bought the pro 10s after this.
Hope you are loving it.
hi Jose! do you know how many more chroma optimizer bottles is needed for each color set for the canon pro-10? I heard you go thru that much faster?
3x would be about right. Just other a large bottle of that but not till after they reopen on the 23rd
it looks like they are still working on the red! I might have to order from inkowl. thank you again Jose
Their red will not even be as good as the temporary one. Just so you know. They are custom creating this Red ink unlike everyone else. Trust me!
i thought that would be the case. PC is more expensive though! octoinkjet claim their Red is nearly at par with ome pro-10 and they are more expensive too.
I love all these claims! The golden test will be back to back comparisons between OEM Inkset and the Signature set.
Hello Master, what did you mistake for Pro-100 ? what did you corrcetly ? I don't understand. please explain it . Thank you Master.
What he did was double profiling - meaning using the printer AND the application to control the color profile, which results in overly saturated prints with significant color shift.
Jason Niu Thank you sir.
I think I heard you mention you could find a Canon Pro100 for $50? Did I hear you right and if so could you please share where?Thanks.
That's after the $250 rebate and taking into account the cist of a free box of paper they also give you. You must order from a company such as B&H or other camera company. Oh and only in tbe USA.
@@cheo1949 Thanks for the response. I saw it for $150 after rebates on B&H which doesn't sound bad.
But remember the free $50 box of paper.
So if I'm hearing you right. The Pro-100 is the best bang for your buck taking into consideration printer cost as well as ink costs? I've been looking the pro 100, pro10 and considering if it's worth it to go for the pro 1000.
Three totally different printers. The 100 though officially retailing for $400+ can be had for as low as $50 net after rebates. Dye Ink great for glossy or luster satin prints. Not so great for anything else. If you just want to print for fun and learn the process before moving up then the 100 is the one for you. The PRO-10 takes it up a few notches. Pigment ink set plus chroma optimizer for printing on pretty much anything. Much higher longevity and realism in the results. The PRO-1000 is a professional level printer requiring a whole new level of user commitment most are not really ready for.
Thank you! I will look into the pro 10. Looks like there are some massive discounts for both the pro 10 and the pro 100.
Hello Jose, thanks for all your previous answers ! In the meantime I’ve tried to watch quite many of your previous posts which are great ! I’m still hovering between pro 10, 100 or epson p600. I’m quite a beginner and therefor I think that one of these printers are the best option instead of buying a pro 1000 (although I would love to use the pro 1000 :-). My approach now is to start with one of these printers to learn the printing process and then swicht to the much beloved pro 1000...
I don’t think I’m going to use 3rd party inkts, so I’ll stick to OEM carts. Sometimes, I ‘ve read on several forums that the pro 100S might show some banding issues, which is something I definitely would hate photographing nature and so ? What is your experience on banding between the 3 printers abovementioned ? Then, I also read the epson printer is better in B/W on matte paper... Even, after viewing your posts, It remains a tough choose (for you it is not since you have all three of them ;-)
Another question: which paper is best to start with on one of these printers ?
I think I used the wrong word in my previous post: it is not ‘banding’ that I mean but unequal tonal changes in, lets say, a beautiful sky that gradually changes in colour. I don’t know how one should call these kinds of ‘colour bands’. So, is this only due to jpg-artefacts or also from physical differences between different printers ?
The truth is all three printer will print smooth gradations. Don't ever print from an over compressed jpg.
@@cheo1949 thanks for your response...just bought the pro100 as my ‘learning printer’...
Congratulations! Make sure to view the BASIC PRINTING Playlist and the PRO-100 as well as Color Management Playlists. That will get you started on the right foot as you do not want to waste those OEM inks experimenting!
Hi Jose - I have a Canon Pro 100S which is not printing properly despite installing a new print head etc. The Canon UK service agent is saying that the purge unit may have failed and wants to charge 33% of the price of a new printer to install a new unit - is this something I can do myself? Any comments appreciated - Don
What makes you think that you need a new purge pad? If you really need a new purge pad you would need a service manual which even I don't. You probably just have a gunky purge unit gasket so it can not real and so cannot apply full vacuum to the nozzle plate. Thus cleaning cycles are not doing anything. Long Q-TIPs and alcohol plus careful cleaning of the peripheral purge pad gasket will clean the gunk and hopefully restore full suction.
@@cheo1949 Hi Jose many thanks for this - could you do a short video to show how to clean this properly please? I'm not exactly sure where the purge unit is and what needs cleaning? Many thanks Don
It's not easy. The unit is located on the far right and is where the printhead rests when not used.
@@cheo1949 Thanks for your reply. When I print the test pattern 2 inks (PM + LGY) do not print to full opacity - there are no complete line streaks missing but more of a very light intermittent interference type pattern. I think I can see the purge pad down to the right with the head "parked" - does the gasket just need to be cleaned or do the sponge pads need cleaning as well? What is the small rectangular unit behind the purge pad? There is a lot of ink splattered around in this area. I'm very practical and not phased by taking things apart but have no idea where to start with this - would you clean this unit without taking the machine apart or park the head and do it in situ? Ant thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Cynically if I send this printer back to Canon I bet they will only clean this area which hopefully I can do on my own,
Do you know where I can purchase an Canon PIXMA PRO-100?
They are selling for about $800 and up on AMAZON. From independent sellers!
Señor José, I just bought the Pro 100 at Best Buy for $275 a few days ago, but Canon has a $200 mail in rebate. At the end, I'm paying about $91 after taxes.
Now, this is my dilemma. Lol
Just last night, someone posted a Pro-10 for $75.
I'm debating weather to get the 10 and return the 100, and a small part of me is saying, get it and stay with both. Lol
What would you do in this situation?
Stay with both! You won't regret it!
@@cheo1949 I had a feeling you would say that. Lol
Perfect, I will keep both!
Thank you for your input. :)
But how long does the color last? 100 compared to the 1000?
No idea. Supposedly decades for both. There aren't many actual accelerated tests to provide the info you need. Check Aardenburg imagine for possible results. Longevity is not just about inks but hugely based on the paper used. As much as a 10 fold difference.
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How does the Kirkland Costco photo paper compare to Canon photo paper premium lackluster brand? Kirkland photo paper is made in Japan. Have you tested the photo paper for the Canon 1000? Also what monitor calibration you use? I use xrite publisher pro 2.
I used the Kirkland Glossy paper a long time ago but I let my CostCo membership lapse and never really went back. But it is very goo paper and I am quite sure the PRO-1000 would love it. I use a X-Rite ColorMunki Photo
Hello Jose. I don't consider myself stupid or thick but I am struggling to understand a few printing terms you use. 1. You recommend turning off the printer colour management to make a print. Why?
2. In this video you say you double profiled and produced a poor quality print. Could you explain please as I am on the brink of choosing my 1st photo printer and need to know as much as possible about our hobby. Many thanks
I'll give you a quick explanation but what I will suggest is that you start checking out my color management playlist where I have tons of videos pertaining to color management how to approach it using different applications and so forth and Specific Instructions for Epson as well as Canon printers. Okay so the reason you want to turn off color Management, on an Epson you would turn off color managed workflow and a Canon printer you click on color - Manual Adnustment and then Matching and then you choose None. What you are doing is you're preventing both the driver as well as the application to both control color which will result in a very very bad print. You want either the driver to do it or the application to control color through a paper ICC profile specific for that paper but I suggest in the beginning is just simply let the driver do the job. Print only on papers that are specific to that printer in other words if it's a Canon printer use Canon paper if it's an Epson printer use Epson paper and just take it slow my friend. It'll come to you. Just like with anything new, there is a learning curve that you need to get through but once you get it you'll have that aha moment and you'll be able to do it without even thinking about it. As I mentioned and suggested, go ahead and follow some of the videos that I have on that particular playlist which is the Color Managed Workflow for everything you will ever need to know about printing on Canon and Epson using Photoshop Lightroom and Qimage.
@@cheo1949 Thank you so much for your in-depth reply. You are an incredible man with so much knowledge and patience. I know some of my questions may seem rediculus to you. So thanks you for being so patient with me. I am on the edge now of buying my canon pro printer and tossing up between pro100s and the pro 10s . I have used an all in one canon up till now. But the bug has biten and I need better now. Cheers and thanks again. Very much appreciated.