Half geometry, half poetry: The bank was always open for Tim Duncan | Signature Shots
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- Tim Duncan built his Hall of Fame career on a masterful array of post moves and a ridiculous level of consistency. On this episode of Signature Shots, ESPN analyst Kirk Goldsberry pays tribute to The Big Fundamental’s low-post game, especially his patented bank shot.
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0:00 Tim Duncan’s Signature Shot: low-post moves
0:47 An era of inside-out basketball
1:39 The bank shot
3:37 Footwork, passing and poster dunks
5:04 Same formula, five rings
7:23 Sustainable greatness
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Him and Michael Jordan walked into a franchise with no championships and left it with 5 and 6 championships, respectively. That level of greatness cannot be matched.
Please don’t use Duncan’s name in the same sentence as Jordan’s.
@@omara6292 L
@@omara6292 u Jordan fanboys are something else 😂
In a league of their own
@@omara6292 I agree. Duncan never quit on his team twice
The dude literally didn't miss a playoffs in his whole career. Playing in western conf. is very tough and still manage to get 5 rings.
It's actually crazier than that. His team never won less than 50 games with him on the team, except for the lockout-shortened 1998-1999 season when they won their 1st championship lol
Thank you. Mount rushmore for that alone.
his lowest career play-off seed was 6th and 7th but one those years spurs won 50 and 55 games
Would've had 6 if Popovich didnt bench him when Ray Allen hit that 3. Duncan would've got the rebound to secure the championship.
@@kifley19 nah they never would've went back to back
A casual won't find Tim Duncan interesting to watch but for anyone who's knows basketball, he's one of the most fun players to watch
Same with you
He isn’t fun to watch.He is boring af.He is a great player but not fun
@@kostas1477 he was fun to watch u probably wasn’t even born yet 😂😂😂
@@kostas1477 You were probably weren’t born when he was in his prime
He’s my favorite player, this is so great not having to argue his greatness with anybody 😭
Thank you ESPN for showing Duncan some love. The most underrated superstar of all time.
You can put the most underappreciated on that too
I dont think hes that underrated tho. People still recognize him as by far the greatest pf ever.
underrated ? how's that underrated ? He's called "The Greatest PF of All-Time" is not underrated, everyone that watch NBA knows about Duncan.
Its a tie between him and Moses malone
@@ayyadmulla3010 bruh what are you smoking, Moses Malone was 100% a 5, not a 4.
Maybe you're misinterpreting his famous "fo, fo, fo" line? He wasn't talking about his position lmao
People don't understand but Tim Duncan took pay cuts so that the Spurs could win championships
Uh- u know thats a bad thing right
Tom Bradyesque🐐🐐
Spurs were cheap, they never signed anybody special, which is why Kawhi wanted to leave
@@terell2k12 The fact of the spurs build a dynasty is a big achievement because they are in a small city. Obviously when your team is on LA or NY you can take the luxury of sign all the players that you want. If there wouldn't be for the loyalty of Duncan, Parker, Robinson, Ginobilli and at the end Kawhi they would be worse than Sacramento or Charlotte
@@fuires12345 no no what im saying that people often criticize how players get pay cuts like what lebron did in 2011 miami to create superteam and Gsw did after KD came to the warriors. Its not morally bad thing(in fact its a sacrifice ur right) but bascially creating more space to get good players and greater roster
We need more of this content please, it's far better than those pointless First Take debates.
I agree
Agreed
Absolutely
Right!! But they won’t
@@goatstatusj5112 they gotta make their money unfortunately
Duncan was the scariest player in the playoffs. I remember my pistons going toe to toe and he was simply unstoppable against the greatest defensive team.
Him and a young Tony Parker were unstoppable in the playoffs.
I'm still mad at Sheed for leaving that fool open 😢
The Pistons would've lost in the 2nd round in the West. The East was trash.
Nah the Pistons and two sore ankles made it tough for him. They'd make him miss the first shot but he outworked them on the offensive glass.
@@Mr813Fla dont for get mannnuuu and
For a guy who never claimed to be "flashy" his post moves now would look like art into todays modern game of stretch bigs
As we say in my homecountry, Tim Duncan, wasn't a chef that knew many meals, he cooked the rice and beans. But his rice and beans is the best there is.
The most underapreciated NBA great
Playoff mode Timmy was just lethal. Eliminated my Mavs a bunch of times in his prime. Kobe gave him mad respect. Real ones know.
only three times i remember
@@razkable only?? 3 is alot
Tim Duncan is one of only 5 players that has a quadruple double.
Of these 5 he's the one of two players that did it in the playoffs, the only player that did it in the finals and the only player that did it in a game 6 finals clinching game. He had 21 point, 20 rebounds, 10 assists and 10 blocks.
Let that one sink in.
He got robbed of two blocks that game...he def had a quad double
@@johnkreese4706 Exactly, hence I see it as a quadruple double.
@@Dotsetc yup the admiral big David got a quad double too back in 94-95
@@johnkreese4706 Yea if I'm correct Wilt had 6 and Thurmond, Malone, Robinson and Timmy have recorded a quadruple double.
@@Dotsetc Hakeem had 2 quad doubles too
I was a Spurs fan for so many years because of this man. Tim Duncan is my favorite player of all time and he was my childhood hero.
same here brother. In Mongolia Kobe and lakers were probably the most popular team and player. Oh man I really do miss those word fights.
same man
Same here man!!
you still a spurs fan?
We are going to be a playoff team this coming year
He never talked trash, he was never flashy, he was a team first guy, and all he did was win. Tim Duncan is the best Power forward in NBA history. Period.
Unless it was garnet
@@Dudeness1994 garnet may have had a better single season peak, but I still take Duncan, no questions asked.
@@Dudeness1994 "ooh, nice try!" "almost" "got you!"
@@Dudeness1994 ah that’s right I forgot 😂💯
Basketball culture promotes swag and flare with moves on the court over pure fundamentals which is why Duncan is never mentioned next to guys that display it.
He's really the most underrated top 10 player
Top 5
Are you gonna win mvp or nah?
Top 6 on my list
Jordan
Kareem
Wilt
Magic
Bill
Duncan
@@conflicto7575 I love the list but I put Lebron in front of wilt
Duncan’s around top 6 or 7 all time in my opinion
24 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists and 5 blocks PER GAME? In the Finals? Insane, probably most dominant Finals performance ever
I really miss those games. I remembered the day he announced retirement. Just so quiet and sudden. As a superstar, Duncan is so humble
Just because you're quiet doesn't make you automatically humble
@@0401412740 you are right. But Duncan is quiet and humble at the same time. I don’t see the conflict here
@@0401412740 exactly
True. Same season that Kobe retired also. Kobe got farewell celebrations from fans in and out of L.A. Duncan was just more low-key and wanted to retire quietly. He didn't even announce it until the summer so San Antonio never got to thank him while he was playing.
He could get buckets even in the end. He sacrificed his stats for Aldridge.
How does a 5x champ, 2x MVP, 3x Finals MVP and 15x All-Star barely get spoken about? When they do, they always bring up pop. Every great player and champion has had a great coach and system around them, yet when it comes to Tim Duncan discussions and where he ranks all time, they always try and use it against him. Timmy D is top 5 all time and deserves to be on the mount rushmore of basketball.
1:12 hear what he says. I feel like that is one of the reasons why he is not talked about a lot. Not only may his game be boring to the fans but so was his career. There were never any scandals, he never really got into media trouble as well. He just played basketball, answered questions and went on with his life.
@@BNComps_ Don't get me wrong i completely understand what you mean, but like i said, the title of best pf of all time just seems like a backhanded compliment. He is arguably the most fundamentally sound basketball player to live outside of Jordan and had an incredibly winning career so it's not ridiculous to have him in the GOAT discussion. When we talk about great players it should lean to more to how they actually played basketball, not how flashy or outspoken they are.
Top 1 for me
People dont talk about him because we already know how great he is, hes underappreciated and none of his accolades was anything less of his.
So if you cant criticize why not just not talk about him
Duncan beat the sorry knicks, nets, cavs, 2014 heat. Only real finals Duncan has faced was the pistons, that 2013 heat he almost won if it wasn’t for Allen. No competition Duncan has faced that’s why Duncan championships have been spread out throughout the years. He’s never went back to back until 2014 and the west competition was just okc. Duncan lost 2 fmvp to tony Parker. How are you a top 5 player and can’t win every fmvp. Duncan wasn’t like Kobe, playing with the most dominate player ever and Kobe was younger. Kobe lost fmvp to shaq not derick fisher or pau gasol.
"All those bank shots were available for one simple reason... defenders were terrified of him blowing by them" now imagine Giannis realizing this and starts learning from timmy
Sorry to say that, but Giannis will never ever learn how to make a decent jumpshot. That's a problem with most of today's superstars, they learned the LeBron way of playing, no jumpshots, just iso penetration and phisicality.
@@adamkanizsai2990 most of today superstars ????, with no J, Iso penetration only, and physicality ?????. I want whatever you're smoking bro
@@adamkanizsai2990 you realize lebron has spent the last decade improving his jumpshot
@@RLSmith-jt8qj he is about 36-40% midrange shooter which is horrible.
@@adamkanizsai2990 he definitely worked out with Kobe and started shooting more
And made big improvements lol and Lebron is one of the league leaders on 3pt% these past few seasons plus he actually shot
The best in his career on the
Heat 42% I believe where is this Lebron don’t shoot nonsense coming from 😭 the only person who don’t shoot is Ben Simmons.
Most underrated hall of famer
5x Champ
3x finals MVP
2x MVP
15x all star
10x first all NBA
26 thousand points
The man isn’t even brought up at most times.
Ssssooooooooo disrespected his entire career!! He proved that simplicity is greatness. He left his mark. I've always loved his game and consistency. No one could stop him!
No that's Mark Price
@@realjcoop182 great player. Underrated but sadly isn’t even a top 20 point guard of all time. He’s also not even in the hall of fame. No hate tho, I’m from Ohio and his name is still brought up in a lot of sports talk.
Duncan > Kobe
Moses Malone is the most underrated hall of famer
Duncan is just rare. One of a kind. That big and strong and nimble and had handles and had every single post move elite defensively.
Agreed! And Duncan was being humble when he said he wasn't as athletic as other players. Athleticism is more than about jumping high. See that agility on his spin moves in the post? Amazing. Not too many legit 7 footers that can do the things he did. Only the very best, and Timmy is up there for sure.
Lakers fan for 31 years. I have nothing but the utmost respect of Tim Duncan. Well deserved nomination.
And people have the audacity to say AD is better then him. Duncan played greats like Shaq in a tougher era and often schooled them as well.
C-Webb, KG, Dirk, McDyess, Rasheed, Malone, and STAT. Several TD's matchup at 00s
Which people? They must all be high 🤣
@@Kali-Ikigai You'd be surprised
AD is not even close to him...I'll take KG and Chris webber
That’s crazy, the western conference was stacked his whole career.
I remember watching him play against my team (PHX Suns) and saying [as a little kid, mind you] "I hate him. All he does is shoot banks." 😂 He did them that much! Nothing but love and respect for him now that I'm not an obnoxious kid anymore. lol
As a Spurs fan I used to say “I hate him" about Kobe lol. Learned to respect and admire the greatness over time. So I feel ya.
@@CownnnL Ditto!
Exactly took the words right out of my mouth... overtime I appreciated his game 🏀
Reason I started watching basketball. Too humble
Growing up in San Antonio, watching the city grow, watching the team succeed and witnessing the consistent greatness of a player like him, I attribute every accolade to him. Pop becoming great, Tony and Manu achieving hall of fame careers, San Antonio growing as a city from revenue delivered after every championship and playoff run. Players like Finley, Diaw, Willis and others getting rings.. All of it is attributed to Duncan and his stellar career, ethic and greatness. Phenomenal.
Well said....
Yeah man it was legit going to those parades EVERY year it seemed like and everyone giving away free food when we won the finals
Pop was a bad start to the season away from getting canned. He was on the hot seat going into TD’s rookie year.
I miss watching him play. Classy and lethal.
He’s the best role model the game could ever ask for 💯
The Greatest PF who never gets mentioned. It takes a HoF induction for ESPN to talk about Timmy. Timmy D. was a beast.
Karl Malone ate his lunch at 40 years old. He's not the greatest PF.
Duncan's moves may not be fun to watch, but seeing how his plain and simplicity obliterate and break apart the most athletic and fancy is a sight of beauty. Duncan is someone who could arguably still play and make an impact even today if he wants to.
Simple but decisive
Dats why he nickname wuz The Big Fundamental. Cuz fundamentals R whut u taught when u 1st learn any sport not all dat flashy stuff.
In fairness, its hard to make any game look simple, especially at the elite level, against defenses that are so well prepared.
@@Westside19th Old Man Riverwalk
@@carlosmartinezz3022 🏀
Top 3 player of all time based off of the competition he faced, how he dominated in the playoffs & how he played at a high level late in his career his 2013 - 2015 playoff run was ridiculous for a man that was 37 - 39 years old💪🏾💯
Facts brother, you’re absolutely speaking facts
He gave up 2 more championships so the nba could showcase the golden state warriors. That's why he didn't have a city to city farewell like Kareem did.
@@AveryBlackman he didn't have a farewell because he didn't want one had he said he was retiring he would've had the same farewell that Kobe did
@@AveryBlackman he didn’t even had a press conference, asked Pop to tell the press he was retiring
@@kareja316 He was pissed off because the league wanted to showcase Steph Curry. They rigged playoffs so the Spurs couldn't play the Warriors. I know people don't want to believe that.
This is how I found Tim Duncan so amazing. When I was in high school, he got a championship; when I was in college, he got another two; when I can to United State for graduate school, he has got another one. After I finished my PhD and started working, guess, he has got another one......... Definitely my favorite player
Indeed the greatest pf of all time. Won a ring on every decade of his career. (90s 2000s 2010s)
I have never seen anything like it before or since at the PF position: Duncan v Knicks in 99 and Duncan v Nets in 03. It was a masterclass. Brilliance. Congrats on the Hall induction, Tim. Greatest PF of all time and top 10 all time is not a hyperbole. You are that guy.
I'd argue top 5 really
This era tho. My era. Wasn’t even a Duncan fan like that, it’s just sad this era is over. That Spurs team was no fuccin joke
San Antonio will never be the same.
2015 was the last year I truly enjoyed basketball
"The Big Fundamental"
what a nickname, sums him up perfectly too. plain but effective, just like him.
He is so underrated because he doesn't show flashy moves.
Still had this memory every time they battle Dirk Mavs.
It's really fun to watch.
Duncan was one of my favorite players to watch back in the day. He was a solid player. When he had the ball you just knew something good was gonna come from it.
Footwork, timing, and IQ are essential tools the Big Fundamental had, and are lacking in today's bigs.
that's why Luka dominates the league
jokic?
@@ivanebijay2401 his favorite player is Timmy haha. He is a Sabonis/Duncan hybrid without Duncan's unreal defense
@B plus defense & rebounding
@@ivanebijay2401 Jokic is probably the closest to Tim Duncan's skills.
Tim literally everything you wanted in a PF. This video tells no lies, he was the best of all time
Tim Duncan is my favorite player ever. As a Spurs fan I miss him on the court more every single day as we just try to break .500
GSG
Manu is my #2 favorite...Timmy #1
Same I miss the big 3 but especially Timmy
Too true...
As a long time Spurs fan, I can't thank Timmy, Manu & TP9 for all the great memories. The early 2000's rivalry with the Shaq & Kobe Lakers, the Finals vs the Pistons, the 2 Finals vs Miami. What a ride it was! Hands down, the best trio to be inducted into the HoF together, period! I'll forever yell GoSpursGo!!
Timmy was actually 38 in that 2014 Finals series, other than that, excellent feature on the Big Fundamental
Great piece! I remember watching college basketball when I was younger and first time I saw Tim Duncan, and Chris Paul, playing for Wake Forest. I was mesmerised by how smart of a player he was. He was unstoppable.
Greatest Power Forward of all time!
Malone shut down this fool in his prime
@@solidsnake8331 r u stupid? Prime malone and prime duncan never met so who knows
LMAO, Duncan has the better numbers.
@@solidsnake8331 malone is also a playoffs choker. mailman doesn't deliver on playoffs. tim duncan delivered
@@solidsnake8331 Don't insult Duncan by putting Malone's name in the same breath as him.
He will forever be one of the most unappreciated greats in our game. Real basketball fans know, though.
It's wild that he doesn't get talked about enough, especially when you're arguably the best Power Forward in NBA history
There’s no argument. He’s the best.
i wouldn't even say its an argument bro hes the powerforward goat unanimously
@@mohamadsahili6014 the only one who doesn't agree are celtics fans who think garnett is.
@@kevinhate9745 but KG ranked himself below Kevin McHale
Cause watching him play was a snoozefest.. everyone knew what he was gonna do... it was effective but super boring...
Timmy D ate DeAndre Jordan's lunch all day and he had half of the athletic ability.
Young Timmy had mad hops too, he was just too crafty and nice. He left the theatrics to Pop, Tony and Manu. They were the basketball hipsters.
Duncan couldn't always jump but he was strong af. Look at him vs Shaq
DeAndre Jordan would have remedial classes if he faced 2002-2003 God Mode Timmy
He's nimble and agile for his size back then and yeah longer limbs🤣
skill vs athleticism. TD with the same hops and agility as Giannis wouldn't be fair to the world.
Banks shots are such a great shot that many players don't use
This was beautiful. Thanks for that tribute. Duncan will always be appreciated.
Dirk and Duncan are two of the greatest, yet most humble players of all time!
Thank you San Antonio, for showing that fundamentals and the right pieces will always be the most respected way to win a title. Such a pleasure to watch the greatness of that team. Why I love Denver, Utah and Phoenix so much right now.
It's crazy to me how effortless he was. My fav PF player ever. Well deserved 5 rings💯💯
Tim Duncan 🐐
One of the best defensive players in N B A history. Fundamental
Like that block on Durant that was in the video, sometimes he just used his head. These guys (even in his era) just be jumping for no reason. Duncan would literally just follow the ball and always kept it in-bounds.
Duncan and wade are the most underrated superstars of all time
No ego, the most efficient player ever. My favorite
You don't get to be HOF great without having an ego.
One of the most, if not, underrated player of all time. Great to see him being acknowledged.
I'm sure it helped Timmay a lot, honing up his skills, having to go up against the Admiral during practice on a regular basis coming up.
The only guy who truly kept the question “Kobe was the best player in the 2000s” open...
Nah prime Garnett was better than him. Duncan was just on the better team and had the better coach. Shaq was the most dominant player in the league until 2006.
Lol that’s not a debate
Garnett was not even worth mentioning lol. TD made his teammates better, Garnett & the Celtics couldn’t hold on to Ray Allen.
@@DieCastErn The only thing Duncan has over Garnett is longevity because prime Garnett was better than prime Duncan. Prime Duncan just had far more help than prime Garnett and was drafted into a functional franchise, not a Glen Taylor-owned shitshow. Put KG on the Spurs and Duncan on the Wolves and see what happens. The Timberwolves have made the playoffs only once since KG left in 2007 and that was only due to Thibodeau and rental Jimmy Butler (not anyone they developed and built around), so it was a miracle KG made them competitive. Meanwhile, the Spurs won 61 games the year after Duncan retired lol. Btw Pierce was an overrated career loser who never won 50 games pre-KG and would've never made the playoffs in the West. Garnett would've easily beaten those trash East teams like the Sixers, Nets, Bucks, Celtics in the early 2000s. Most halfway decent teams in the West would've as well.
Love this series and it was totally needed to put some of the greatness of players into perspective
Same. Love kirk and all his work!
Glad that TD is finally getting the love and respect that he so deserves among the all-time greats. BTW, that block on KD at the 7:50 mark showed his unique defensive ability that marked his entire career.
Tim Duncan "The Big Fundamental"
-for his fundamentally sound game which is still talked about today
I hated the spurs Coz of Duncan. (Lakers fan here) but man oh man i Respect him so much. Specially when he cried after learning of Kobes passing 🔥🔥🔥💛💜
100
Timmy cried?!?!
One of the few to have stayed with his team and teammates to Win. TRUE champion, Honorable man...
The silent greatness of this man! Hatsoff!
Nailed it. What a great overview of Tim's shooting ability. I've been a Spurs fan since George Gervin's playing days and this encapsulates Tim Duncan's shooting and footwork so well.
as a spurs fan i always get so emotional when i see anything regarding our big 3. thanks espn for this one, great vid
He is a top 7 player of all time at least. He is so underrated.
Exceptional player no doubt about it.
As a Spurs fan I cry almost every time I see Timmy now... in joy of what he brought us and sadness knowing I will most likely never get to experience the career of a player like him on the spurs ever again. You look at the top 10 players of all time and it's all big name teams the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls.... then my small market Spurs with Timmy. It was an absolute treat to watch his career and I can only wish to ever get to watch another player similar to him on my franchise again.
@Matthew Taber worry about his health tho
Thank you for this! I find Duncan's post game not boring, but in my eyes it's beautiful to see.
People say I’m crazy that he is the best rim protector of all time...
Nah it's Alonzo Mourning
Somehow Timmy never won dpoy
@@timmyd5055 Bruce Bowen didn't either
Timmy is the best power forward, but he so underrated that I forget him
Such a great great great player, loved to watch him play and win. Thanks for the video thanks Timmy!
he makes being SAS fan so enjoyable. No down years constant success. Always contenting. Even when you start to think maybe good times over but then you made 3 straight conference finals and most heartbreaking and satisfying finals n back to back years. Just amazing. I was literally spoiled as a fan.
Timmy: The Bank Shot INNOVATOR , Fundamental GENIUS 🥶🔥🔥🔥🐐💯
Coach Pop put the work in on building these monsters.
With Parker and Ginobli but Duncan was already made, he would have been the best power forward no matter where he landed, thats how good he was!
Did NOT do anything to make Duncan. Duncan was ready made the moment he stepped on the floor in the nba.
Duncan had 2 national titles before pop got him. He was number draft pick for a reason. Pop is great though
5 championships says it all. Wasn’t a fan at first, but Timmy grew on me big time. Specially after those finals against the Heat. Those were great series with great high level b-ball. True legend of the sport you are Mr Duncan. Congratulations!
to be fair he got lucky with injuries to key guys like rick fox dirk joe johnson d wade nash/amare and ibaka in his runs post 1999 but whatever...it is what it is...
Finally..a great video about duncan..when we talk about greatness we kind of forget to talk about him.. 5 title and championships in one team ..more than the king without looking for others to help him and making the team a franchise
The best Power Forward of all time
Tim Duncan in NBA Live 04 was unstoppable lol...I hated when my cousins would pick the Spurs
Awesome work on these segments, Kirk! Keep up the good work.
Duncan was a pleasure to watch and a true NBA Legend. God bless em 🙏
He was in a league of his own back in '03
Tim Duncan, Charles Barkley, for me are some of the greatest Power Forwards in the league
KG over barkley
@@leoster6118 yeah that's for you.
But for ne barkley over KG
Hakeem's constant schooling of Duncan during the Dream's reign wasn't even mentioned, as if Hakeem wasn't one of the Bigs who posed a significant challenge for players like Tim. But there's no denying it...Tim Duncan was a force, and who said a banked shot isn't sexy? If you call it before you make it...its by far one of the shrewdest signs of skill in the game.
These are are some good clips. Saw a couple defensive players of the year, a couple guys known for the defensive prowess. Tim still giving them buckets.
Duncan's block of Durant at 7:49 is the most underrated block of all time
What a player 👏
All of Timmy's plays are so beautiful.
Such an underrated player! A lot of people are just now realizing it especially younger people who never saw him play! Thanks for acknowledging what Spurs fans have known all along!
under appreciated legend
I am so proud to be a Spurs fan. Tony Parker is my idol but Manu and Timmy are my inspirations
One of the best players I've ever got watch. Cant write the NBA story without a couple chapters dedicated to Tim Duncan and his Spurs.
One of the very few players that made me keep watching the game post Jordan era. Greatest PF/C ever to play the game.
The greatest player post jordan era
lebron kobe shaq maybe kd and curry is the future
Outside of LeBron yes
@@kit6935 Dont compare overrated LeChoke with a real great player like Duncan, Lebron is the kind of guy who thinks his "title" last year was tough 😂😂😂
All w/ ONE TEAM, ONE COACH!!!!
@@aesir1ases64 why tho? is duncan even in the goat convo cause lebron is. not even a bronsexual i love tim and i think he is so underrated but to say lebron is not great is just plain dumb smh
Bank shots are so satisfying
Actual analysis/story telling videos are like this is what you need more of ESPN!!
Keep this series going! These videos have been great!
No other player has a quadruple double in the playoffs, Tim Duncan had one in game 5 of the NBA Finals
They didn’t give him the quad double but still so impressive to have that in the FINALS