Richard Wagner - Götterdammerung - Valencia 2009 - Zubin Mehta
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- Richard Wagner (1813-1883): Der Ring des Nibelungen: Götterdammerung
Composer: Wagner, Richard
Libretto/Text Author: Wagner, Richard
Conductor: Mehta, Zubin
Orchestra: Valencian Community Orchestra
Chorus: Valencia Regional Government Choir
Alberich: Kapellmann, Franz-Josef
Brunnhilde: Wilson, Jennifer
First Norn: Denschlag, Daniela
Flosshilde: Prudenskaja, Marina
Gunther: Lukas, Ralf
Gutrune: Matos, Elisabete
Hagen: Salminen, Matti
Second Norn: Vazquez, Pilar
Siegfried: Ryan, Lance
Third Norn: Bethencourt, Eugenia
Waltraute: Wyn-Rogers, Catherine
Wellgunde: Naidu, Ann-Katrin
Woglinde: Vazquez, Silvia
Set/Stage Designer: Olbeter, Roland
Costume Designer: Uroz, Chu
Lighting Designer: Praet, Peter van
Stage Director: Padrissa, Carlus
Television Director: Mancini, Tiziano
Date of Production: 2009
Venue: Palau de les Arts "Reina Sofia", Valencia - Hudba
You know, Jennifer Wilson is a convincing Brunnhilde, which these days is rare. The Costumes should be condemned to the deepest pit of hell though.
A superb, and at times rightfully chilling, performance. I wish I had been there.
This, Thielemann and Solti are the three best orchestral interpretations of Gotterdammerung I've ever heard.
Eins dürft ihr nie vergessen! Die Musik (Komposition) ist genial...!!!
Stimmt! Eine Wagneroper konnte nichtmal ein Kupfer oder Chereau kaputt machen. Nur Schlingensief hätte es beinahe mit dem Parsifal geschafft.
@@IwanOchs5 Cheraus Inszenierung ist wirklich super: Kein nerviges Regietheater, aber aucb nicht langweilig altbacken. Boulez' Version ist supet agil, transparent und stark. Die anderen sind demgegenüber zu langsam bis regelrecht lahm...
There should be a prize for the most ghastly production of a Wagnerian opera; it would be hotly contested.
likewise for dumb comments.
scary indeed
Wonderful production and excellent singers.
Jennifer Wilson oustanding.
Thank you all artists and Metha at first place
Ich weiß gar nicht wie oft ich Hernn Salimen, in der Deutschen Oper Berlin als "Kammersänger" gehört und gesehen habe! Gehört mich zum Haus, wie Kollo und Andere!
I am very grateful for this upload, many thanks, an d I confess, I like the whole production, Many thanks to you.
I’m not sure about this particular production. However, the orchestration and singing were wonderful. Well worth your time.
40:56 Nice Death Star
It’s Star Wars 😂
I feel noone is talking about that clarinet, oh my god the chills 1:22:00
Brünnhilde
Bravissimo maestro Mehha...
Mehta and the great staging takes the opera to another level and makes it an opera of today, suggestive, glorious, dark and layered. Bravo!
You have very low standards for Wagner, apparently.
Una maravilla: excelente orquesta, dirección e interpretación.
華格納的《尼貝龍根的指環》.《諸神的黃昏》(Götterdämmerung, 1874)
齊格菲送葬進行曲
3:54:03-4:00:22
Súper orquesta...
Seems fine to me. It doesn't matter who directs this - there would be howls of derision. Each to his own. What is the alternative? Don't ever stage the mighty epic? People would complain then as well!!!
Sois más clásicos que una cortina de comedor. Vi esta ópera y puedo decir que fue genial, innovadora y con una unos artistas y músicos de un calibre excepcional. Una de las mejores actuaciones que ha hecho Mehta en España
No, si a Metha no te lo discuto. Musicalmente y vocalmente la obra es una maravilla. El problema es la escenografía y el vestuario. Eso es lo que pasa cuando encargas la producción de una ópera a una compañía de circo: todos parecen payasos.
Is there anyone here who doesn't agree that Lance Ryan IS THE PERFECT SIEGFRIED?????? Yummmm!!!
Stop!
He sounds awful
You are joking, right? He is not good at all and his strong accent is really annoying.
You really can't be serious. I've never heard a worse Siegfried.
Una Gotterdammerung... da ascoltare...
This is why we can't have nice things!
Well, what did you expect in opera? A happy ending?
Well YES! I thought it was something like The Marriage of Figaro or L'elisir d'amore LOL
I expected him to Kill The Wabbit!
well you can't put a happy ending when the source material (Nibelungenlied) explicitly says that the characters died. It's like sugarcoating things for kids audiences, like Disney did with The Little Mermaid and other faerie stories that had downer endings in their source material.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
And... above all... yes... I found this so childish...
I Do Expect It Bugs!
Danke classikalm...
Ryan is not up to the others. Still an incredible production
"It ain't over til' the fat lady sings"- Count Yogi Berra
33:35
3:48:45
3:54:00
3:56:40
Superb!
It constantly amazes me the extent to which productions of the Ring vary so much. Like this one. Its just plain wierd. ... But Good,
Any suggestions how to understand the conclusion?
symbolism... eveything with symbolism... the sacrifice of brunnhilde for the love of siegfried finish to burn the world of the gods... the flames rise and rise until they reach the walhalla as the ravens fly to announce that the human are freed from the autorithy of the gods. The prophecy accomplish "more free than me the god" said Wotan in die Walkure. Now, after the end, a new world emerges while the old one (created during the prologue of the Rheingold collapses)... Conclusion : here is a world without gods, norns or anything else. A world redempted where the human, the full consciousness, freedom and love are the only masters.
the conclusion is as the title says..."the twillight of the Gods" ... The Ragnarok!
this is my suggestion, personally I interpret the conclusion as a representation of Wagner's political and humane aspirations. Remember that Wagner was a revolutionary and had a good chunk of his life spent on escaping the law for his involvement in the failed 1848 German uprising.
To me, Siegfried and Brunnhilde are the pure, idealist, untarnished revolutionaries that give their lives following an idea and succumb because of the evil machinations of mundane humans (represented by the Gibichungs). Now, in Wagner's view humans are imperfect and flawed, and thus can't comprehend the pureness of ideals and instead only crave for power (represented by the ring).
But Siegfried and Brunnhilde, on the contrary, didn't want the ring to subjugate other people (like the other characters in the operas did), rather they wanted it as a token of love, as a reminder that they are united even when apart (like Brunnhilde says in the duet with Siegfried before he bids her farewell). Siegfried and Brunnhilde have achieved such a level of spiritual level that they don't use power to bring harm and negative sorrow to other people, but to rejoice themselves in harmless, positive love.
In other words, Wagner is requesting the governments to use their power (money, resources, facilities, organizations) to promote love among mankind, and stop using power for destruction and sorrow (like Wotan ripping a branch from the Ygdrasil tree to make an overpowering spear, or Alberich enslaving a whole race and threatening to make war with the gods).
The vassals and women in the Gibichung's kingdom see Siegfried as one of them, a working class hero. Before Siegfried arrives on his boat, the Gibichungs say that he is accomplishing many wonderful deeds and that people in many foreign lands everywhere are praising him. During the hunt, the vassals treat Siegfried cordially: they show their admiration and sit down silently to listen to his stories. And when he is killed, the vassals and the women in the Gibichung's kingdom lament the death of their hero and join him in the funeral procession. That's a representation that the common folks viewed Siegfried as one of them, as part of their kin, in other words: a working class hero that fought against powerful greedy hoarders like the dragon Fafner and could defeat them.
Thus the common people are moved by Siegfried's death and they realize that the problem is with the powers that be (the gods, the Gibichungs, etc.) and, fed up with the rigid system, everything is destroyed in flames to start the world anew, without gods, only the humans governing themselves. Siegfried is a Messianic hero, he dies and in doing that everyone is redeemed, his popularity rises even more after his death and he and Brunnhilde are forever remembered as immaculate, tragic heroes, too pure for this sinful world, and whose deaths led to such commotion that started a revolution that overthrew an old regime.
The power (the ring) is returned to their original owners: the innocent, cheerful, common people represented by the jolly Rhine's daughters. They are devoid of any aspiration of subjugating other people or wanting to conquer the world. They only want the ring to harmlessly sing and dance around it. Thus a new, peaceful start for mankind is achieved.
and that's my personal interpretation for the ending of Gotterdammerung! I hope it helped you to have another overview on the ideas of Wagner and maybe enjoy his works from another perspective. Greetings from Argentina!
subtitle would be nice, in more languages
My favorite after Solti's version ;o)
@krisengold No, but I will check it ASAP. Thanks ;o)
Sublime Fura dels Baus nel suo.titanico.sforzo di rappresentare ciò che solo l"immaginazione può vedere 13:04 12:17 ne
DANKE SCHÖN.
I confess I didn’t watch the whole thing, only the end.
Can anyone tell me who the acrobats were, and who was the character who apparently killed them with a wave of the hand?
Logi
The acrobats are the Valhalla's dead heros. It is Loge who kills them.
The costumes 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Lance Ryan: inascoltabile, unhearable, unmöglich zu hören.
Inascoltabile???? Wagner è sinonimo di PERFEZIONE tanto scenica come musicale!!!
Il mio commento, da direttore d'orchestra, da musicista per oltre mezzo secolo, da didatta e da amante e studioso da anni di Wagner è unicamente rivolto a Lance Ryan, che è un pessimo tenore che, in taluni casi, giunge a rendersi inascoltabile. Personalmente ritengo il Ring una delle più elevate creazioni artistiche dell'umanità. Di un profetismo sconvolgente.
Agreed. Don't like lancecryan. Too strident. Too screamy
only furtwaengler @@giorta
Certainly an interesting staging, but Salminen is a tremendous Hagen, 2nd only to Gottlob Frick in my personal opinion.
1:58:00 Incredible dissonance.
Greed and ambition come to nothing. Heroism becomes ignorance and death.
'Things fall apart. The centre cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.'
But the rivers and sky and creatures remain.
Are you talking about the story itself, or about the staging?
@@growler777 Both.
3:03:20 how it should be in my opinion (sounding a bit dumb)
4:29:56 👍
2:22:22 Hagen's Call
Hagen has become a hipster skin-head. Just great. What total crap.
1:49:18 Why Are They Fighting?!
Great timeless staging!!
Timeless? Really? It is momentary toilet staging that detracts from the music in every way.
I can't stop laughing at your comment!
@@grouchocatman Idiots aren't funny.
La puesta en escena es lamentable. No puedo entender cómo gente profesional que se dedica a esto aceptó representar esta pantomina cómica de Wagner. En fin, querrán, con payasadas, acercar la ópera al pueblo. Es ironía, claro.
22:47 gets me every time with this act . mahler could never !
Stranging
4:35:02 Her Costume Is Neat!
The whole production is visually a sensation. The wealth of ideas never distracts from the story, the character direction is right, for me this is exciting theatre. The musical side is fine, even if Mehta drags the tempo too much for me and the inner tension is lost many times as a result.
It's only an old Wagnerian for 50 years opinion, but... No, Not for me, thank you. This is not Wagner's ring. This is the fantasy of a director who imagines he's the genious he doesn't seems to be. When you dont have enough imagination and creativity, you put special FX, video, laser lights and what else? This guy is not Georges Lucas. It's not Star Wars. This is one of Wagner's masterpiece your just trashed. Thank you.
Si privatizamos el arte, en vez de subvencionarlo el estado. Y a cambio, nos meten anuncios comerciales, los cuales tenemos que pagar nosotros directa o indirectamente. Y verlos a la fuerza, impidiéndonos la concentración en el arte. " TODOS TONTOS".
o podrias usar el producto de una empresa privada llamada "Adblock", instalarlo y ya no tenes propagandas en videos de youtube...
La ópera en España está subvencionada y sin embargo el Teatro Real es el teatro de ópera más caro del mundo. Y las producciones una basura como todo lo público porque no hay competencia y la opinión del público no importa. Si fuera privado como en Nueva York tendríamos mejores producciones y precios más baratos. 3/4 de las entradas en patio de butacas en Madrid son regaladas a ejecutivos y políticos. Eso es lo que estamos subvencionando. Si fuera un negocio privado no creo que regalarían la mitad de teatro tan gustosamente.
This staging is quite ambitious! The coordination of visuals and the use of many machines is impressive. This Brunnhilde sounds quite fine and she can sing the high C and not sound like a goat. My complaint is that Siegfried sounds like Mime, the tempo is much too slow in many places, and the orchestra and singing sometimes sound downright monotonous.
What the DEVIL are plastic bottles doing, floating in the Rhine!?!?!/!
3:43:35
3:48:00
Why must modern productions turn legend into cartoons. The staging and costumes are total populist crap. After all, we are all far too ignorant to get the many layered messages without being bludgeoned with anime-like images.
You should see what anime has done to Siegfried/Sigurd and Brunhilda
"b-but MUH EVANGELION!"
Pretentious staging
Total modern....old man will shoot himself
4:36:53 Gorgeous!
The Waltraute looks like an escaped mental patient in a Wagnerian strait jacket of some kind.
Lol
Que cosa horrible, parece una pesadilla después de una cena podrida.
Arrestate scenografo e costumista.
Oh no - why do opera houses allow directors to this - more naked bodies needlessly on stage. Ridiculous costumes which alter the story entirely. you can put it in a modern setting, usually it is in a completely blank timeless setting - but this !
Brunnhilde looks like a moving tank. The design is appalling.
The ONLY thing this production has going for it is how the stage gets engulfed in the fire. Otherwise, it is crap. Getrune with her name tag? So she knows who she is? Its news to me you can make the Rhein River out of 3 different glass water tanks. Brunhilde riding off into the flames on whatever the contraption she went out in calling that Grane. Well, I have no reason to doubt Mr. Ed must be turning over in his grave. In the early '60s, there was a tv show "Ted Mack Presents the Original Amateur Hour." I doubt he would present this amateur production to the opera world.
Taiwan gogo
Furchtbare Kostüme und entsetzliches Bühnenbild . Der Blitz sollte den Verantwortlichen beim scheißen treffen .
Parece el Circo del Sol.
Que verguenza para Wagner!
WTF? Miked? Unbelievable! Disgusting!
Zutin metha
Good try
Most of the costume are ridiculed and ugly. Sobriety make better result.
I feel sorry for the performers when they have to sing in these awful productions.
norns have become budgies in cages LOL - director should hang his head in shame for such stupidity
Some of the costume are quite ugly !
Very dangerous to sing upside down.
This is terrible.
... e vi posso assicurare che in video è meglio.
Dal vivo è uno spettacolo imbarazzante, la scena è piena di roba, non si capisce nulla, anche il Walhalla umano che sarebbe carino si perde in tutto il ciarpame
I can forgive the bullshit production if the actual performance has integrity but a lot of the time they don't even manage to hit the right notes, or even be 'in tune'. Shame, because on the whole it is musically very good.
What a terrible production.
Maybe IF These European Audiences, would Stop GIVING these Horrf*
At least Birgit Nilsson wasn't alive to see this. Only the fire on the stage at the end and the acrobats are giving this the time of day or night. Pathetic and DISSSSSGUSTING production otherwise.
How embarrassing.
TOTAL CRAP.
You're wrong dude; I admit this opera suffers from a slow start, but once you're through the Norn scene you're in Wagner heaven.
Nun mal sachte! Die Sänger und das Orchester geben schließlich ihr Bestes.
Are you talking about the opera or this production of it?
Communism has triumphed when art has been divested from its history, culture and context, what a tragedy for humanity.
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