M3 Pro vs M3 Max MacBook- Is the Max WORTH the Extra Cost for Editing YouTube Videos?
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- In this m3 pro vs m3 max showdown I compare these two laptops head to head in DaVinci Resolve. I show what it's like using each one as a daily driver as well as putting them under heavy load when it comes to video editing to see which one I really need.
Sometimes the only way to find out is to do it yourself, so since no one showed exactly how I use computers, well this is how I use them so hopefully it helps you find the right computer for your work flow.
Thanks for watching and if you are able to support the channel with likes, comments, or subscribes, I would really appreciate that!
FYI The M3 Max has 16/40 cores with 48gb ram and a 1tb hard drive.
The M3 Pro had 12/18 cores with 18gb of ram and a 512 hard drive.
Windows laptop specs: ASUS ROG Zephyrus 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black (AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/1TB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 2060)
0:00 M3 Pro vs M3 Max
1:35 Magic mask speeds
3:00 Editing stacks of 4k 10 Bit Footage
7:01 Comparing vs my 2020 Laptop
8:20 Side-by-side comparison
9:49 Daily usage
10:47 Which M3 I'm choosing
14:12 Which M3 you should choose - Zábava
FYI The M3 Max has 16/40 cores with 48gb ram and a 1tb hard drive.
The M3 Pro had 12/18 cores with 18gb of ram and a 512 hard drive.
This was sooo helpful!!! Thank you so much for making this video and for your input 🙏.
Glad you found the video! Thanks for the comment 👊
I thought you were a way bigger channel. Quality is amazing and you’re great on camera. Thanks!!
Aww thanks for saying. You made my day 👊
I second this! What camera are you using? @@thesahdstudio
@@FrancescaCare My main camera is the Sony Zv-E1 with a G-Master 24mm F1.4 lens... but I just picked up a ZV-E10 to use as a b-cam. Time will tell if I keep that one!
Thanks so much for the video, jus the one i m looking for, it helped me make up my mind. thanks
So glad you found the video and it was helpful. Thanks for watching, and the comment! 👊
I think it looks like you were working on proxy footage for the most of it, I might be wrong but I can see the proxy indicator activated. But really appreciate the effort you put in to make our life's a little bit easer to make a decision. Much Love my friend!
I had the setting 'Use proxies IF available'' ticked which is why you can see that indicator, but I can assure you I did not have any proxies being used during this video. Those computers are just THAT fast!
Great test and way better than export times! Thnx
Thanks for the comment! I have another real fun one coming out about the M3 Max soon so stay tuned if you're interested in that.
Thank you, this video is a great help to choose the right MacBook Pro.
Glad you found it! Yeah the Mac's are great computers but finding the exact right one without overspending has proven to be a bit tricky. They want your money!
thanks, that was helpful
Glad you found the video 👊
thxxx for thiss!!
Thanks for watching 👊 appreciate the comment.
this video was perfect! its funny how informative it actually was 🤣
Thanks for the great comment! Really appreciate it 👊
That was hilarious.🤣You think that your videos don't serve pros, but trust me some of your videos have no alternatives on youtube and are very helpful for people like me searching for some details like this. Very well done and hope you get the best out of this machine.🤗
Awesome! I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment. I am doing my best to create the kind of videos I would want to see, knowing there are others out there in similar boats. I do my best to offer some type of tests or perspective that isn't usually done or talked about. So your comment really makes the effort put in feel worth doing 👊.
Out of the box the Max froze up when I was updating it... then initially the testing wasn't very different But, once I got it purring, it feels like it's on another level. I still think the battery feels significantly worse using the extra power but in my case it's worth it.
I DO wonder what's right around the corner with the Intel stuff though... Is there any chance you would go in that direction or will you get the new Studio for sure?
@@thesahdstudio I don't think I wanna go to old school x86. Going for the Studio when the M3 Max helps a lot as it's a workstation on my palm that I can transfer everywhere easily especially when I go away from my region. So it's not really 100% a laptop, and I hate them, but also pretty much portable.
Guessing in the future I might get offers outside the country. Who knows, might just get none but I like to be prepared.
Really helpfull, thanx for saving me money!
Glad you found the video and LOVE helping people save that money 👊
This is the kind of video we need!!! Real comparison, real test on davinci resolve! This is a great video to understand what could be the decision to buy a new Mac. Considering at the moment I have macbook pro 2018 with i7... I think m3 pro should be a good step forward right?😊
Thanks! And yes, a good step forward for sure. IF you are doing lots of 4k video editing, I think the extra encoders on the Max chips ARE worth buying. But if you aren't ever going to do much more than 1 layer then it's not a huge deal. The M3 Pro should be great. I ended up buying the M1 Max used which is better for video editing than the M3 Pro and is much cheaper than any of the other Max chips while still having great battery. Hope that helps and doesn't make it harder to decide lol. Save your money where you can. Really think about exactly how you will use it.
3:46 Awesome! 🤣Always thanks for your support, Evan!
Haha thank you! If you look closely each outfit I'm dancing in has a different piece of Fioboc clothing ;) My favourite clothes!
If you click on the window option in the menu bar for activity monitor you can get the GPU and CPU monitors that will show you exactly how much of each you are using. They are really handy and give you a nice graph to see how much you are using total and for each core! Cheers Great video comparison
Thanks for the tip! I was watching Tech Notice talk about how Mac utilizes ram and it was a bit confusing... Meaning that just because they are being used doesn't necessarily mean they are full. I'll have to do more testing out for myself though. 👊
I passed for my CZcams channel from a MacBook M1 Pro to a M3 Max… you decided to do the best thing. The difference is that I still did not hear any ventilation on my MacBook and I live in the hot Sardinia. Hope it will always be like that. This said I subscribed to your channel because it is always good to help each other and fellow CZcamsrs 😊
Yeah going from the Pro to the Max in any version of the chip is a big difference when it comes to video editing, so that's great you were able to up your game. The m3 max is awesome! How exciting 👊 And thanks for the support!
Edit: It looks like you talk about MMA on your channel. Nice! I love MMA also. Too bad I can't understand you 🤣
Ehehhe I Speak about traditional martial arts (specifically the Japanese ones) and about Japanese and Korean History ^_^. This said.. it is always awesome to find people like you and been able to subscribe to your channel. Why? In the future when you will become like Max Tech.. I can say that I was one of the first ones eheh
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@@KankukanAiki What a great comment to start my day with! Thank you for the kind words. I'm going through a dip right now with my CZcams efforts and your comment is a big boost. I really appreciate it.
All the best with your efforts also 👊
@@thesahdstudio I understand what you are saying ! I have often the same dip with my own channel.. I dream to speak of tech but my audience love what I do..so my fantasy runs but I am stuck with what I started with. Please do not surrender. You have already a great channel and I really do think that someday in the near future I will be writing to a new Max Tech level channel!
u know what sir
u have earned yourself a subscriber
epic dancing skills by the way
Aww yeah, welcome to the channel my friend! Haha, thanks for the comment. Really appreciate it 👊
I believe it depends a lot on what video editor you are gonna use aswell. Some might be more optimized than others or will be after an update. This makes choosing the perfect MacBook even harder.
I’m in the same Windows boat. Coming from MS-DOS to 3.11, … but lately, since returning to iPhone, been thinking more of trying macOS. Would be a more desktop choice between macmini or studio for me, since i don’t really need to be portable and work/play around from home.
I agree with you. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. These are both awesome for editing in Resolve though I can say that with certainty.
So you went with the iPhone first eh? Any regrets there? I'm still rocking the Android phone which makes it feel like I am not fully enveloped into the Apple ecosystem and benefiting from that.
Hi, have you tried editing on the M3 Pro using the XAVC H.265 video codec without using proxies? Thank you.
I have not since on the Zv-e1 shooting in this format is limited to 24/60 fps, whereas I prefer shooting in 30 fps. Maybe I'll try it for science. If I do I'll let you know what happens!
@@thesahdstudio they said that H.265 is much more taxing on the computer compared to the H.264 video codec. I’m looking forward to see that video.
@@louinekay Not sure if you caught the recent video I did talking about codecs but it's funny, I've actually gone in the exact opposite direction for this reason. I don't care about size of the files I just want the buttery editing experience so I'm filming in the most uncompressed codec possible on my camera lol. But yeah I'll try it out soon!
Have you gone through your Windows power settings and set the “on battery” to custom and full speed?
Oh yeah... I've tried to drain the power as fast as possible for maximum performance. I think the battery health has gotten a lot worse over the years. Even still, when it was plugged in it locked up once it got hot.
Would love to try a newer Windows laptop though in this kind of side by side testing.
GREAT. Now the question comes from your previous vid. when you showed the problem of the mackbook pro not able to color grade smoothly...did the max have the same issue?
Ok, so, the Pro could color grade just fine. That's no problem. The problem it had was it was quite slow when applying magic masks, adding 3d fx, and stacking timelines. The Max can do all of those things much better. The editing is buttery smooth although to be fair, adding 3d fx aren't amazing... but that's where computers with dedicated video cards pull ahead.
Really happy with the Max still, though I ended up getting the M1 Max!
@@thesahdstudio thanks again
hi
i need a suggestion
I am programmer and photographer as hobby. now as a interest in photography and videography i am looking to buy mac to edit photo and videos but i am wondering which one to buy as i will probably keep it for another 4-5 years for sure. I normally record video in gopro hero 11 in 4k 60fps and currently wondering to buy macbook pro m3 pro 18gb 1tb here in finland. do you think its a good investment regarding those 4-5 years in hand or should choose its MAX version.
Ok, so I haven't really edited with that Video Codec but either way, I think any of the MacBooks would be enough. The only suggestion I would have is that you opt for at least 32gb of ram. I am personally considering downgrading from the M3 Max to the M1 Max. But again, the codec you record in makes the biggest difference at all. If that codec is easy to edit OR you quickly convert it to, say, prores, it will make your editing experience so much smoother regardless of what computer you have. Have you considered refurbished ones from Apple?
how long does the battery last when editing without charger on the m3 max 14 inch? Thanks for this video
I can't say for sure since I had the 16" but it would basically get me through a 5-6 hour session editing 4k 60fps with no proxies etc... it was pretty nuts. I ended up getting gate M1 Max with a brand new battery instead of the M3 with and it's not close as good. Maybe 3.5 hours on the battery? Those new chips are nuts!
Thanks for video! I'm currently deciding on a MacBook Pro 16-inch for RAW photo editing and 4K/8K video work, and I'm considering three models: M3 Pro (12-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD), M3 Max (14-core CPU, 30-core GPU, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD), and M3 Max (16-core CPU, 40-core GPU, 48GB RAM, 1TB SSD).
Initially, I was leaning towards the M3 Pro, but after watching reviews, I'm unsure if it would be sufficient for the kind of processing I need. Given my intention to use this laptop for an extended period without frequent upgrades, I'd greatly appreciate your advice on which model would best suit my needs, especially in terms of video processing and AI advancements. Thank you.
I think what I'm learning about after all of this is that any one of those will be amazing for normal edits... However if you want to start playing around with Effects, that's where they struggle. I think it really depends on what kind of video editing you're going to be doing and what kind of codec you're going to be shooting in with your camera. Shooting an uncompressed files certainly makes the editing process a lot smoother but there are obvious disadvantages to that like storage size transfer speeds etc.
These are the first max I've ever used so I don't have a ton of experience. However I am going to be returning this and getting the M1 Max at the end of the year so I will have videos up early next year comparing the M1 Max to the M3 Max so I'll have more information then. At this point though I think any one of them should be more than capable for you but I do like the saying a lot of people have mentioned... Buy once cry once. Lol. The max with the 1640 which is the one I've been using has been awesome I will say that and it smoked the pro in my testing but again I barely know what I'm doing!
Thank you for the response and all the information. I hope I'll manage to make the right decision for what I need. @@thesahdstudio
@@ann_ta Good luck. Let me know what you decide!
Please help me, I am confused between Legion 9i and M3 Pro Max 36 GB 1TB varaint. I have no problem regarding the price, and both the OS are ok for me.
I use a few VM for ethical hacking apart from these I program and also do video edits.
Please recommend which one will be worth.
I think the M3 Pro Max with 48 gigs of RAM 16/40 is the way to go. The performance on battery is just so unbelievable for that reason alone I just love it and wouldn't go to a Windows PC. If you don't mind your computer getting loud and hot then yeah you could probably get better value from the windows stuff though. The performance and the graphics card would be nice for effects but for overall editing the Mac is sick and I would recommend that. Please keep in mind though I am no Pro I'm just a regular consumer trying this stuff out for myself.
So if i would like to buy a macbook pro for final cut and editing 4k videos to then upload for education etc, which chip is better mate? Is it the pro or the max that i should go for? Have never used a Mac before
Honesty the Max makes video editing an amazing experience. The Pro is solid too but if you can afford the extra bucks, get the Max... any version of the chip. I had the M3 Max which was fantastic but I ended up buying the M1 Max... a few months have passed so you could probably get a good deal on a used M2 Max. Make sure you get at least 32/36gb ram and 1tb if possible. You'll love it! The battery is nuts.
This is probably the best comparison video I have seen! Are the rumors of the M4 chip true? Dropping later this year? Or is it looking like an 18mo cycle?
Glad you found the video! I'm not sure. I can't imagine they would change the cycle... I guess it depends on the production of the 2nm chips. I know at this point when I get comments asking me if they should buy the M3 I'm like well just wait 6 months... Get the m4 lol. It's always a waiting game... Sometimes you just have to pick one and stick with the decision.
This is very helpful. Thank you.
Glad you found the video and thanks for the comment 👊
Hey bud, is your m3 pro the 14core version or the 18core version?
I believe it was the 12/18 with 18 gb Ram. I wanted to get it right away and it was the only one available when they first launched in my area. It was nice but ultimately didn't work out for my needs.
The Max was the 16/40 with 48gb ram.
I think the problem might be Davinci Resolves is not using the Neural Engine in apple silicon. I can tell through the monitor on my M1 Max 16". It's not using it even with the "Use Neural Engine if possible" button is on.
Interesting. I don't know enough about the use of the Neural Engine yet... looks like I have my night planned lol.
How will you be getting the m1 max? Would u get a refurb one from apple? Thank you
I bought it from a seller on Marketplace. Actually he sold me a camera lens months ago, then when I saw he was selling the laptop we actually became friends through messaging. I have a lot of great experiences buying things used, but this seller in particular went out of his way to make sure the laptop was in the best condition possible for when I got it (thanks to AppleCare). I think having AppleCare made me a lot more comfortable with the purchase. I considered Refurbed but this seemed a better deal.
Ohhh ok I'm gravitating to the m3 max at this point. Not that I do anything this crazy, but I like to multitask *a lot*. Did you find that screen recording at the same time made a noticeable difference? also, maybe try low power mode on the max- I hear it makes it a bit less hot/loud. Not quite sure what the point is if it makes it slower- but maybe it doesn't affect it that much? Worth a try.
Screen recording made no difference on either of them! I did use the low power mode but like you said it made the video editing experience worse and since that's what this video was about I didn't feel like it was necessary to talk about it. When I'm just using it at night time though I will probably keep it in low power mode keep the battery from draining because this computer definitely sucks back the battery faster. Like it seems like quite a lot faster. Having all the power available though is really nice. I'll talk more about the battery after I've had it longer and can use it more in low power mode... But yeah if you can afford it I don't think you'll regret it. They're both sweet but I just like having the extra horsepower for when I need it.
@@thesahdstudio yeah my wallet is shaking in its boots but it's gonna be a splurge. I kept my mid 2014 MBPr all this time, and I'm sorta impressed with it still- nearly a decade of daily heavy use later and the trackpad is pristine, that in itself is insane. No wobble in the hinge, not a squeak, even the design looks great imo. But gosh that old intel chip is a problem, I was only doing some little home movies and it was such a pain to edit that I just didn't finish projects and have a lot of footage untouched.
Yeah, totally get that about low power mode. I wasn't sure how low power it would be- like does it negate any max advantage entirely, or just dampen it a bit?
cheeky question while I have you here- I have some ooooold version of final cut, I'd have to either stick to iMovie (meh), get the new final cut, or... is the free version of DaVinci Resolve okay?
@littlefootfeet that's amazing you got such long life out of that original computer. A testament to how good their products are.
The free version of DaVinci resolve is fantastic! Absolutely give it a try.... I honestly can't really compare it to anything else... But I've watched a lot of comparison videos and it definitely seems comparable to any of the others. I love that it has hardware you can buy if you want to really take things to the next level. Plus there are some really awesome creators doing resolve tutorials out there.
Good luck with your purchase and do let me know when you get it what you think! I'll talk more about it a lot in future videos I'm sure!
@@thesahdstudio thank you, you're very kind to take the time. I figure if I have to adapt to a new thing anyway, might as well be one that has a decent free version, which frankly will probably be enough to start with anyway, seems like even the paid version isn't that outlandishly expensive.
I shall! I've been itching to update since m1 came out but now it's finally time. probably. My friends are so fed up with this topic at this point XD
Nice you went straight to 16/40 heh, awesome machine. I went for the 14/30 which doesn’t heat up as much on a 14”. Congrats!! - question when you wipe the display with a micro fibre, does it feel like it’s flexing a bit or does it feel solid? Mine flexes a bit almost like the screen isn’t glued down hmm. Going to check in the store if that’s normal.
Also, have you tried Final Cut?
lol right? I figured if I was spending that amount of money I may as well just go for it. My other channel has been growing nicely so this will give me the tools I need to be efficient for growing both channels.
I just wiped the screen to test it out and honestly it feels solid. Yeah maybe just bring a cloth to the store and start wiping down the displays to compare 😂
Nothing like spending that kind of money to realize or think you might have one that's not perfect eh?
You happy with yours? Anything you aren't digging?
Enjoying watching your adventure. You are right about Apple not making it easy. I had a 16” M1 Max but I really should have bought the 14”. Sales rep day job and hobby photographer and drone pilot on the weekend. Needed compact with some power. Landed on the 14/18/18/1 TB M3 Pro 14” and couldn’t be happier. Paired with my 11” iPad Pro it’s the perfect mobile office and handles my hobbies needs to. Looks like that Max is the ticket for you. The MBP is the big spend. you can add the other peripherals (iPhone,iPad) later. Cheers!
Did you find the 16" was just too heavy and cumbersome? I am a big screen guy so am always curious that people like/enjoy/prefer the smaller screen. With that being said I feel like these Apple screens are a little taller which make them feel better than their Windows counterparts.
Thanks for watching and chiming in! I'm excited to add the rest of the stuff sooner rather than later but not sure I'll be able to make that happen lol.
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, for me it was just to cumbersome. I'm in and out of customers stores all day and spend a lot of time working out of my truck. I was using a 12.9" iPad for my job and just go tired of fighting iPadOS. iPadOS has come a long way (I had the original) and I still have a spot for the iPad in my life, but iPadOS doesn't compare to MacOS for getting work done. I'll always fondly remember the 16", but it just sat on my desk. The 14" is my Mama Bear. It's hooked up to a Samsung 43" and a 24.5" LG Ultra Fine at home and the screen is big enough for the day job. I can even tether the 11" iPad Pro in the field if I want a 2 display solution. Looking forward to your next installment! 😀 Welcome to the world of Mac (made the same move in '09)! Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!
@@jimtipton8888 That's interesting, thanks for sharing. Now I just have to return all the stuff I'm not going to keep 😂 (iPad Air and m3 Pro - fyi I bought a used iPad 10th gen with a pencil for half the price of the air. The air was better but... value). Almost done and back to "new" normal for me. Can't wait for the dust to settle and get comfortable with all this stuff.
Appreciate the support 👊
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the 14 is junk...how can you be this much ignorant?? Unless you get the Mx Pro version dont buy a 14. All these weak people complaining about half a kilo weight difference be🤡🤡
I dont understand... If the m3 pro does not use much the fans it handles better the task? Or is is healthy on the m3 max if its going loud and its good for the laptop just not for the ear?
It doesn't handle the task as well. The fans will come on when it's rendering for example... And it will go way faster with the max then the pro. The pro still does a really good job but you just have little split seconds that you'll be waiting around for. But it still handles 4K video editing pretty easy in the right codecs.
For most people I think the pro is the way to go... But if you want to get better at video editing in 4k and have multiple stacked videos the max is the way to go for sure
was this all done on the battery alone or plugged in?
On the Macs everything was on battery... pretty sick eh!?
Hi! Can you try Surface Laptop Studio 2 compared to the Macs. :D
Oh man that would be SO fun! I wish I had access to one. Sadly I'm not quite at that level yet. Hopefully one day!
Here is to hoping you keep the Max! Good video. I do hope it works out for you.
Aw thanks for saying, I really appreciate it! I hope so too. It's tough being a stay-at-home-dad with a very limited budget and convincing my wife I need it... but between this and my other channel (TheSAHDLife) things are starting to happen so she gets it.
Are you team Apple?
Definitely on team Apple. I have been using it since College. And while I'm very much a Windows user for work. Even there I'm on a Mac Studio. I really don't like the Windows OS, even though it pays the bills.
I started life as a DJ, and when I went to College for Audio Engineering. Everything was running on Mac. So, System 7 was my starting point.
Apple isn't perfect, but I do find that the system gets out of your way more, and you stop worrying about things that you would on a Windows computer. You just get to work. Get the best one you can afford. And you will most likely have it for many years.
Also I really enjoy when people try a Mac when they have been heavy Windows users forever. Many for a very long time just ignored the platform without giving it a fair shot. I don't ever expect folks to give up Windows entirely, it does work and in some cases there are only Windows versions of an application. But, i'm seeing those that do try it, tend to appreciate it and really like the Mac and macOS. The learning curve can be a pain. But, most of it is customizable to get it closer to what yoru used to. It tends to just work with devices (with exceptions to docking stations). And they are shockingly fast at things with these M chips.
keep posting videos, they are enjoyable. @@thesahdstudio
For me, I just use my M3 Pro for email, web browsing and journaling. Still wondering if I should upgrade to the Max, but don't know why? Future proofing maybe?
Honestly, you definitely do not need it... the ONLY reason I would say get it is if you know you'd be doing complicated video editing in the near future. The M3 Pro is still good enough for that... you could grow a MASSIVE CZcams channel on the Pro it's that good. The M3 Pro alone is probably overkill for you lol. If I were you (and in the window of returning the M3 Pro), I would consider the M3 Air which I think will very likely come out in the next month or so. But even still, the extra horsepower of the Pro might be nice if you don't mind the size.
I would love to see how this would have performed on a non baked codec. In my case I shoot and edit Multicam (four cameras usually or more) of RED 8K raw (.r3d) in which I think there would be more difference between the two MacBook Pros.
I just released a video this morning not sure if you got a chance to see it. I stack some 8K red footage on the timeline so you can see how it performs
@@thesahdstudioI will. Check it out.
Nice video, what lense are you filming with? I like that bokeh
Thanks! I am rocking a Sony G-Master 24mm F1.4 with the Sony ZV-E1. Not the cheapest setup. I've invested everything I've made off CZcams into my gear so here's hoping my channels continue to grow!
Can you please compare export times between the 3 devices with and without effects 😊
It's funny, export times don't mean anything to me so that's not a test I would ever do. It's all about the video editing experience for me... but I find that the computers which are usually good at that have good rendering speeds too. Any new Apple computer or Windows machine with a decent video card will be good for render speeds, especially if you aren't using effects. If you DONT'T have a gpu on a Windows machine then..... that'll suck lol
bro.
choose Macbook pro
M3 pro 14 inch ( 1 TB SSD)
but i confusing which specs enough for graphic designs and 4k video editing works ???
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11 core CPU, 14 core GPU ( m3 pro)
36gb ram
or
12 core CPU, 18 core GPU (m3 pro)
RAM : 36 GB
You're just responded to your other message hopefully you got it! What's the price difference? Can you afford the better specs? You could always do what I did and just buy an older M1 or M2 and save a few bucks.
Fantastic video man. Really detailed and well put together! I think I'm leaning towards the M3 Pro 11CPU/14GPU, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD. My current laptop is the 13" 2020 MacBook Pro i5 16GB RAM and I have been using it for video editing for the past 2 years. It gets really hot and loud pretty fast. I use 4K footage. 8-12 min videos. I currently use iMovie but will learn Final Cut Pro or Davinci Resolve once I get the new laptop!
I also use it for daily usage like surfing the web on Safari and Chrome with multiple windows open (and CZcams playing too). It tends to get hot and sometimes the fans kick on (especially if I'm screencasting to my TV). No gaming.
Do you think the M3 Pro 11CPU/14GPU, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD is good enough for me? Should I pay the $200 more to get the upgraded 12CPU/18GPU. Or should I shell the extra bit and get the base M3 Max?
Thanks for the comment! And it's a tough call man... I'm not sure how complicated the videos you make are, but if it's just a somewhat easy to use codec and you aren't stacking files or adding many VFX, then any of the M3 Pro's should be fine for you... especially if you go the Final Cut Pro route.
IF you think you want to start creating more complicated videos then it might be worth considering the Max... the extra video encoders are just so nice to have it really feels worth it. I would probably upgrade to the extra GPU's if I were you at the very least. That will be a sick little laptop for years for sure. And if you are buying new, at least you can play around with it for a few weeks, then if you aren't satisfied, return it and upgrade at that point.
I ended up going back to getting the M1 Max which I'm on right now and am happy with it still. Depending on what AMD/INTEL are upto over the next couple years we'll see what I do next. If these Mac's had graphics cards or the ability to add a eGPU it would be perfect. But it doesn't so I've been a tiny bit underwhelmed by the video effects part of video editing with the Apple stuff.
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for the detailed reply!! Maybe the upgraded GPU/CPU M3 Pro might be the move. But at that point it's just a few hundred away from the M3 Max lol. Apple really makes it easy to upsell haha.
I record audio for my videos. Then edit it on iMovie. Then create a new movie. Then drag and drop the necessary footage where it goes with what I'm talking about. That's the most of it. Other than that, I'll add just some texts here and there on top of certain parts. I record 4K with my iPhone and drone. AirDrop the footage from iPhone and connect micro SD from to my MacBook.
I'm starting to go more towards vlog/sitdown style of video where it's wayyyyy easier to edit since it's just the footage I take and then some cuts here and there as opposed to recording audio, recording video, then making the video. But I can see myself adding more effects/cool elements to my videos in the future as well for audience retention, etc.
Also, what's codec? Sorry if that's a dumb question
Oh it's all good. A codec is the type of file a video is recorded into. So our phones and cheaper cameras for example compress the footage into tiny files, and these files are actually quite difficult to work on because the computer has to decode (uncompress) the video footage then encode (compress) it on the fly. The Max chips have extra encoders/decoders which make working on those kind of files much smoother.
Really good cameras don't compress the footage as much and those files are super easy to work on for the computer but they are HUGE files.
I don't have experience with iMovie but in Resolve the Max was noticeably better...
It's a tough call... at this point the M4's will be out in 6 months, so if you are paying full price you might almost want to wait unless you can get a deal or buy refurbed/used. Used might not be bad depending on your area... if you can buy one second hand with AppleCare then you might be able to save a lot of money!
I ended up buying a used M1 Max with AppleCare. The seller actually got everything fully fixed under AppleCare before he sold it to me so it's practically brand new. I'd buy used again if it has AppleCare.
Sorry, I'm not trying to confuse you. Like you said, it's so easy to spend the extra bucks. It's a tough call whether you need it or not. The Pro with the upgraded specs is probably more than enough for what you're doing and the battery/performance will be a bonkers upgrade.
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@@thesahdstudio Okay! Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate your insight man!
@@thesahdstudio One last question! After looking at the refurbished M3 Max from Apple, I'd save about 15%. I've never purchased refurbished from Apple. Would it be safe to pull the trigger & purcahse it you think? I read on Reddit people haven't had any issues w/ refurb from Apple! And also your experience as you mentioned with the M1 Max. Is there a way to see how it was used or if it was a demo model or I shouldn't worry about that and just buy it?
I'm still using the final version of the intel mac and looking to upgrade. Is the m3 max worth the upgrade over the m2 max in your opinion? Or should I just got for the M3 pro? Thanks in advance for your advice
What will you be using the machine for exactly? I definitely don't think it's worth getting the Max unless you need it. The Pro is still fantastic. But since I do video editing and want the very best experience the extra video encoders on the max chip are noticeable for me.
M3 PRO with 36GB + 1TB HDD is the sweet spot. Awesome performance, battery life, and value. You cannot compare a 512GB / 18GB PRO to a 1TB / 48GB MAX and expect realistic results.
What do you mean I can't compare them and expect realistic results... I didn't know WHAT to expect, that's why I needed to compare them! I've never had a Mac before, and I had no clue which model is capable of what and couldn't find anyone doing tests like this. So how else are we supposed to know which laptop is right for us unless we see real world examples of the programs we actually use? These are the kind of tests I think need to be out there and will always do on my channel.
That's great you found the right model for you. I haven't yet.
Except they use ssd not old and slow hdd.
m3 pro with 36gb ram and 1tb ssd is a 400$ upgrade from 18gb ram 1tb ssd and another 400+ upgrade would be to the base m3 max with more ram so why spend 400$ on a m3 pro to upgrade to the 36gb ram when you can use 400$ and upgrade to a whole level chipset get more ram and more storage?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I was of that mind myself. The extra encoders were a big deal which is why I splurged on the Max. I found the battery life on the Max fantastic but I hear other people saying the less powerful Pro would have better battery since it uses less power. That seemed true in my user experience with both machines but maybe it was just based on the programs I was using. I guess it depends on what you need the computer for. Throwing extra power at simple programs might not be worth $400 for some?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I just did this as I’m a potential buyer and I can confirm that that is how they get you! What you are saying is going to cost 200 more than spending 3199 which is what I want to spend even though it’s a pro but I get 1TB and 36gbs which I will notice more then the benefits of having max in comparison to pro, I edit in 4k but if I need extra horses I can use my behmoth system which has 5900x 3080ti and 64Gbs and several tbs, I only want a laptop 😂
What’s the reason the gpu and ram being higher with the same work you are doing ?
You mean why do I need the extra horsepower? Just for the performance. It really makes video editing extra nice. Maybe I'm feeling a little entitled but I rarely spend money on myself... I've been a stay at home dad for 9 years and have been working my butt off on growing my channels (TheSAHDLife is my other) for the last 3, using the wrong computer and being frustrated while editing. May channels are starting to gain momentum and I'd like to have the best tool to help me expand my abilities and creativity. I could get by with the Pro, but the Max really feels exciting and makes me want to use it... and to push it.
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for the reply. In your video it actually show the gpu and ram being at higher usage while you were testing out the same video work on the max. Apart from this, how long do you think the software/system can be updated for the current MacBook Pro. Cause I know some old MacBooks are not able to use the new OS anymore. I would like to use the laptop for around 8-10 years if I’m gonna spend so much.
what is that side mouse extension you used
Hmmm, are you talking about the Logitech Options + app? I can't remember what I showed in the video. It's a great app though and allows me to program the mouse for each app. For example I have the back/forward side buttons on the mouse programmed for undo/redo and it really speeds up my workflow!
@@thesahdstudio sorry meant on the right of the outside of the laptop you had your mouse laying on, on the couch
@@x7judy lol! That is just a cheap laptop desk I got from Amazon. Similar to this: www.amazon.ca/PrimeCables-Cushion-Laptop-Cellphone-lapdesk/dp/B09LM34JGP/ref=sr_1_14?crid=11T9ELAXUMAU7&keywords=laptop+desk&qid=1701795945&sprefix=laptop+des%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-14
Hey what laptop desk are you using toward the end
It's just a cheapie one I bought on Amazon. To be honest it's not good enough that I would recommend it. It's fine but it's a cheap plastic which is ok since the MacBook doesn't heat up much, but it would get hot with my Windows laptop and would flex. If I had to buy another one I would probably spend a few more bucks (this one was like $25-30) and get something a little beefier.
@@thesahdstudio thank you, I just bought the mb pro m3 max. Definitely nervous i overpaid and is too much for my needs but still excited to have such a big upgrade
@@charlesstuartphotography Haha I know that feeling too well my friend! It's a sick machine there's no doubt. What are you upgrading from?
I plan on returning this M3 Max as I have a mint M1 Max lined up (with AppleCare) which I think SHOULD be good enough for my needs. But if you can make it work financially then it should last you.
@@thesahdstudio oh it was a 2019 msi. horrible
Is this the Studio version of Resolve?
It is! I forgot to mention it. So much going on I'm not used to a little more slower pace live using of the computers. I'll do my best to mention this in future videos 👊
Alright, you've convinced me. Getting the M3 max 128gb ram 8 TB
Awwwww yeah!! You going for the yolo FULL load eh?! Dam!! Jealous. What a beast of a machine. Wild! Let us know what you think.
Do you mind if I ask why you need that much storage? Would it be worth considering external storage for the stuff you don't need as much? I mean it would be great of course if you can afford it, but if it's not necessary you might be able to get the 1-2tb and plug in an external for when you need it. Enjoy!
I just bought one too. Waiting for it to arrive. Bitting my nails, watching videos asking myself if I made a mistake. Your Video helped me out! I’m a subscriber now 🎉😊-thanks!
Haha that's exciting! You'l have to let me know what you think once you've had a chance to use it. Best laptop I've ever used no question!@@lucianoaldanaii4664
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Many testing sites and youtubers are saying that the M3 Max has better battery life than the M3 Pro, but in your experience, it is the opposite. Do you know what might be causing this?
Most likely high power mode? lol. Well I had the Pro for a week or so of daily usage, and it was great... the first day I got the Max I was pushing it to the limits. Now that I've had it for a few days and am using it for daily usage it's great too. Really solid! I would probably trust them over me as I'm not testing them directly, it was more anecdotally... I think because it has more power I was more curious about testing it with gaming and editing etc so it made my usage change... but now that I'm keeping it in lower power mode, as well as adjusting the brightness throughout the day this battery seems fantastic!
I don't think so, where are those test? M3 Pro should last longer on battery.
When the fans would kick in on the Max, did it sound low or did it sound like the fans were really going?
Compared to my Windows laptop with the graphics card the fans on the Max sounded like they were barely spinning. And since pushing it a couple days ago I have yet to hear the fans again even though I've done less intensive video editing while playing Hearthstone at the same time.
As you said, Apple does a great job of making it seem like upgrading is easy and important. It's so hard to sort out what the right move for you is. I think a lot of us get deluded into justifying spending more money when we don't really need it. I suspect many of us could get by with a Pro just fine, even without upgrading beyond 18 GB. Do I really care if it takes me a couple extra minutes to render compared to a Max? Is that really worth an extra $2k on an already expensive machine?
No matter what you choose, you're going to be using a dated model 3-4 years from now. I say don't spend the money unless you are prevented from doing something otherwise.
I landed on the 16" M3 Pro. All I upgraded was the storage to 1 TB as I have 200 GB worth of sound libraries and I wanted some breathing room. It was tough to talk myself down from doubling the memory. I used many "future proofing" arguments on myself. But I'm glad now that I didn't do it. This machine is doing everything I need it for with ease.
That's awesome... the Pro is fantastic. I ultimately caved in to the thought of 'More ram!' and 'More cores!' but did notice an improvement based on my usage. But I agree with you and I don't think most people would even notice the boost of ram and cores in their daily usage.
Can't wait to keep using it and seeing what it can do!
Thank you this helped me
I can see how that would be a tough call. I think part of your decision should be, in addition to the complexity of the videos you plan to produce in the future, is how long you realistically plan to keep the laptop you decide on. There are always going to be shinier new devices around the corner. I took a different tack when I migrated to the Apple ecosystem. I purchased a base model M1 Studio Max (32/512) when it released and then more recently, when I wanted to upgrade my travel device, purchased a refurbished M1 Pro MBP Pro 14 (16GB/1TB). Combined they cost less than the M3 Max MBP and meet my admittedly more modest needs (and budget).
It sounds like you went with a logical thoughtful decision. Not sure if you followed along with the videos but I eventually returned the M3 Max and bought a used M1 Max (with AppleCare) for half the price. So far, it's been great! I don't really notice it being slowed than the M3 Max/Pro but the battery is noticeably worse while video editing. For normal power it's still fantastic though. What monitor are you rocking, anything special?
@@thesahdstudio I haven't been following along very effectively, but I'm glad you got the device that works for you. For my use case the M2 and M3 chips just don't offer enough of a performance boost to justify the cost, so of course I think you made a wise choice with the M1 Max. Regarding the monitor, I can't justify the cost of the Studio monitor, especially after I got the M1 Studio Max. After watching another CZcamsr (I'm pretty sure it was Kyle Erickson, another of my subscribed channels) review the 27" 2K ASUS ProArt I purchased one from Amazon for ~$300US. It's an excellent monitor and it scales perfectly with my Studio Max. I highly recommend it for folks on a budget.
Can I get a link to the video where you picked up the M1 Max?
I found the link :-)
@@bryans8656 Ok great! I'm out and about and it's a pain to share on mobile lol!
Yay a fellow Canadian!
Hey buddy! Thanks for watching eh! 👊
Just got a new M3 MAX MacBook Pro, and love it even though my last MacBook Air was the M2, it only had 8 GB RAM and I'm still in college for networking and IT, so it just didn't cut running virtual machines and a boatload of professional / educational grade softwares. Cheers EH!@@thesahdstudio
You get a like for the dancing alone 😁
And a sub for the great content 👌
Hahaha awww yeah 👊 Thanks man welcome aboard :)
What I would like to know is how the battery life performs on the M3 max vs M3 pro. Does the extra performance decrease the overall battery life?
In the short time I had both I felt like the Pro battery lasted longer for daily use. BUT, with that being said I was pushing the Max harder so it's tough to say for sure. They both are incredible batteries and I wouldn't let that be the point to get one over the other. It's more about whether or not you need the extra encoders etc that make the Max better for more hardcore usage. And if you don't need it, then don't get it.
What's the spec of the windows laptop?
It's a 2020 ASUS ROG Zephyrus 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black (AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/1TB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 2060)
Nice 😇
Who buys two laptops!? I sure hope I'm able to return one lol
The blips might of been down to variation dip in power being allocated to cpu in wattage or clock speed due to thermals.
The moment a machine has to dip it does interrupt smoothness.
Interesting take. I assumed it was from the lack of ram since I was really pushing it but I really don't actually understand exactly how it works. What you said makes sense also.
@thesahdstudio yea when the system is alternating from ram to swap for sure. How much memory average does da vinci use for your typical editing now, at any given time?
@@Charles-qw4hv I'm on the M1 Max and it uses about 24gb out of 32 on average. It doesn't have too many blips on this unless I'm pushing it (stacking 4k) hard.
@thesahdstudio its usage is 25gb total while video editing on resolve? Have you compared real time ram usage of different codecs? It might be the case that the ram usage is much more on the compressed codecs over the all intra and prores codecs
@@Charles-qw4hv I haven't played around with that lately but I'll tinker in the future. Thanks for the idea! 👊
Ofcourse the video is amazing but i have watched it and showed to others just because of the dance!! ❤❤
Haha you made my day! 👊♥️
Interesting comparison. A Mac to PC head to head comparison is just what i was looking for. I was a PC user from the early nineties until about 10 years ago and went for a Mackbook Pro. I have been happy with it, but being overdue for an upgrade, I feel the urge to go back to Windows. I didn't see in the video or comments what the specs were on your 2020 windows laptop....gpu, cpu, ram, etc. It would be great if you could share that. The M3 Pro Max is too rich for my blood, but I could spring for the pro. Video editing is still just a hobby for now, and I'm not sure if a cheaper Windows laptop could get me in the performance ballpark of the M3 Pro.
Glad you found the video. The Windows laptop was a 2020 Asus Zephyrus G15. It had the AMD Ryan 7 4800HS with 16gb Ram, 1 TB hdd, and a Nvidia RTX 2060.
I really miss having a graphics card and the higher refresh rate screen was awesome, but the power and battery life for everything else is just next level with the Apple stuff. Hard not to recommend any of the new Silicon chips Apple has been putting out. The M3 Pro is sweet.
Thanks for the reply. I will have to do more research before I jump. I will say, my 10 year old MacBook Pro has been rock solid... and having looked at some new laptops in my price range, the Retina display would be hard to give up.@@thesahdstudio
I think some of the OLED displays you can get now on the Windows machines would make you quickly forget about the Retina display hehe. Every modern laptop in the Mac price point is pretty dang juicy to be honest. It's just about finding those little features you actually use that will decide which laptop is best for you. Ecosystem does matter too a bit but not as much as I thought it would.@@danvanderknaap3401
I haven't really looked at OLED dislpays yet...still a little weary with talk of screen burn in. To my eye, my old Retina display looks as good as the day I bought it. I had been leaning towards PC with the intent of doing some gaming, but realistically, I don't see having much time for that. Decisions, descisions...lol @@thesahdstudio
I just took a brief look at your videos list...I see you do camera/lens reviews to, so I subscribed to your channel as I shoot Sony and am planning to start a CZcams channel for my Overlanding/Offroading adventures.@@thesahdstudio
Great video!!
I am thinking of going for M3 pro with 36gb ram and 512gb of ssd
Sick! That'll be an awesome machine. If you remember you'll have to let me know what you think about it when you get it! Do you have a Mac now?
@thesahdstudio I used to have a windows laptop but honestly I want to get the latest macbook pro with the specs I mentioned earlier because I need it for my workflow and mainly with editing.
I want something accurate for coloring as well..
I feel it's the best out there
What do you think?
@sikaprika4741 ok...honestly, because you said you need it mainly for editing (I'll assuming video editing) you should really consider the Max chip. It has extra video encoders on it which make a huge difference. If you look back at my recent videos you will see I started with the m3 pro but eventually got an older max because I just use it mainly for editing and even the older max is better than a newer pro for that purpose. I know it costs more but any of the Max chips are better but of course the newest one Is the best. If the price is too high off the m3 max perhaps look into the returned Max's on Apple's refurbed page.
Nice review thanks. However I would like to see a MacBook Pro M2 vs M3 Pro. I'm thinking that the memory bandwidth of 200 GB/s on the M3 chip would be slower than the M2 chip which has 400 GB/s. We can add cores and RAM, but if the pipe line isn't big enough, well, there would be a pipe jam, I think. I'm no computer engineer, but I do love physics. There is something here I need to learn or Apple is pulling the wool over our eyes. What do you think? Love you vids, keep shooting.
Thanks for the comment! It's a tough call. I'm still learning about this stuff as I go as well. I think apple is really trying to keep separation between the models... They don't really want the one computer to rule them all in the mid-tier price point. But with that being said I think for most people's workloads the smaller bandwidth is more than enough. I really wish I had more access to computers so I could run the tests myself because I have to buy this stuff with my own money and being a stay-at-home dad I don't have the biggest budget!
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, I hear you. My first Mac was a G3 which I specifically bought for video editing when mini DV cameras first came out. I've upgraded every 4-5 years or so. Each upgrade had good points, but there were always some bad moves by Apple for each updated computer that left me scratching my head. The reason I haven't moved back to Windows (which at the time was 2000 pro I think) is the OS. I just love Apple's OS. It's the hook inside the worm that gets me every time. I'm looking to upgrade again, so I really appreciate your review. Thanks for your reply.
How bad is the fan noise on the 16 inch M3 Max?
Honestly, it's nothing at all. I've only heard them come on once when I was really pushing it and it was super quiet especially compared to a Windows machine. Very impressed with the sound of this thing and how quiet it runs.
@@thesahdstudio im getting mine M3 Max Friday. I can’t wait !! :)
@@thesahdstudio Hey my friend what video/photo editing application do you use if you don’t mind sharing
Ohh snap! How exciting. Enjoy 👊@@AnilSingh-pn9vz
@@AnilSingh-pn9vz I use DaVinci Resolve for video editing. I am going to play around with Final Cut Pro since I have a Mac now but I'm not sure I'll switch over. We'll see! For photos I use Photoshop. I've tried other ones but I'm just too comfy with Photoshop. There's a free one online (PhotoPea) which I use in a pinch. It's decent!
Resolve is free though which is great for when you are starting out. Do you know which one you will try?
Whew, I'd get the M3 Max, it'll come with 36GB of RAM standard, that was an easy decision based on what I saw from what you showed based on you comparing the 2 chips. I edit DCI 4K videos myself on the M1 Pro, it struggles when shooting 60fps. I went down to 24fps for a school project, since there was no need for those high frame rates on that, it was for a presentation my instructor did for extra credit points. At 24fps, no dropped frames, but the regular M1 on the 13" MacBook Pro I had wasn't dropping frames at 24fps either in 4K. When I do fitness videos, it'd be shot in 60fps, want smooth footage for those fast movements I do. I struggled with playing back videos in 4K60 on the M1 Pro. I didn't buy a Panasonic Lumix GH6 to shoot in bitrates and frame rates for enhanced quality, just for a computer to not play it back when editing.
Not sure if you've considered working with Proxies but that is definitely something you might want to consider if you'll be continuing to work on the M1 Pro. It's super easy to do once you get the hang of it.... super easy, AND, makes working on any file such a breeze. Just wanted to throw that out there... otherwise yeah, the M3 Max makes any file like working on a Proxy file... it's nuts.
@@thesahdstudio a technique I used to do was rendering out the timeline if I saw dropped frames all over the place. I use premiere pro. I set the start and end points, then render that out, it takes time to do, but once its been rendered out, the dropped frames stopped and it plays back smoothly. But no one wants to do that though. Including me, it takes too much time to do extra steps. No one is going to drop huge amounts of money on a MacBook Pro with a M1 Pro or whatever chip Apple puts on these MacBook Pros to get performance issues when editing videos and having to do computer tricks to optimize performance. For some people, its what they do to make money, things have to be done fast. People are paying an arm and a leg to get one of these and there's an expectation on what they're expecting out of these MacBook Pros. I switched to using a MacBook Pro exclusively in 2020.
@@thesahdstudio I ended up with the M3 Pro, I bumped up the RAM to 36GB. The bottlenecks I got while working with DCI 4K60 videos were gone that I was getting on M1 Pro. I found out premiere pro was using 18GB of RAM, that system had only 16GB of it. No wonder why it was dropping frames like crazy. Not enough memory and it was using swap. I wasn't doing any kind of crazy effects or color correction. All I do is simple cuts, transitions, and voiceovers. I don't do much layering on videos. You'll want the M3 Max with more RAM for that.
Nice! Yeah that should be enough right? Battery on that thing should be bananas too which is nice. The best part!
@@thesahdstudio since I got the 16" one, it'll be a massive upgrade there, 14" one is ok on that. A lot of places don't allow for people to charge laptops anymore. I'll have no problems doing DCI 4K60 videos and maybe even 5.8K now, I shoot open gate on that for shorts on CZcams.
For a college student do you think the base 16 is enough. I think I will be keeping it for another 10 year
As a first time Apple buyer I might not be the best person to ask BUT if I were you I might want to bump up the ram to at least 16/18. The CPU and speed of it for everything else should be awesome though for normal projects and daily usage, etc!
@@thesahdstudio thanks sahd
So what are you gonna get!?
@@thesahdstudio i think max as it has 36gb ram .
Oh snap! That's a big jump from the original with 8. Have you considered the Pro with 18? It's really good and has better battery life.
La mejor comparación por aqui.
Really appreciate the comment 👊
Yo! please do a M3 Max vs A laptop with i9 rtx 4090 comparison video editing workflow. There are no videos on youtube doing this comparison.
Oh man, that's what I want to do... I don't even know what would happen! A 4090 would crush certain things but I wonder how it would compare in the overall editing experience. If I get the chance I will. Thanks for watching 👊
Hello!! Long time no see! Great video!!
Do u remeber me?
Hey thanks! Yes the name looks familiar but I cannot remember what we talked about. How's it going?!!
what's the specs of each one?
The m3 Pro was the base model with 18gb ram and 512 ssd. The max was the unbinned 16/40 with 48gb ram and 1tb ssd
Keep the Max. When it's time to get down to business for your workflow, the Max pulls ahead comfortably and productively.
It's really seeming like I will keep the Max.... it's great. I don't think I'll regret it though I will forever have a hard time believing I paid that much for a laptop lol.
What computer are you rocking?
i tried both m3 pro and m3 max. I kept m3 pro. didnt see much difference for my normal work
Yeah nice! Save the money if you can. The extra video encoders on the Max chips are huge for me. But if you don't need them then who cares! The M3 pro is sick!!
I tested both the m3 pro 36gb of ram and the m3 max with 48gb. I tested a very intensive 13 minute edit in Final Cut with noise reduction, power grades for color and many other layers. The m3 pro handled amazingly. They both rendered exports at equal times. I think I’m going to return the max saving myself the extra cash.
Amazing! What codecs were you working with?
Yeah it wasn't until I really started pushing the layers with a tricky codec did the Max start to pull away... but I don't really edit like that often so, like you said, why spend the extra money for something you don't need?!
@@thesahdstudio so I mostly edit HEVC, MPEG-4 AAC codecs. The noticeable difference I saw when layering multiple clips that had many corrections/ luts and neat video applied was that the m3 max played back slightly smoother. It was still choppy if not rendered but it handled better. I also noticed that less memory was used on the m3 pro and the max was using more memory. I've also noticed in lack in battery life with the max. It burns through faster. I think for my needs which is primarily wedding video edits and commercial work, the M3 pro is more than sufficient. I'd be saving my self close to $1000. I may just use the extra cash and splurge on a mac studio monitor.
Anyhow, your videos are fantastic. Amazing work brother.
@@Domerfly That's awesome you found the right machine man! Like you said, you just saved yourself $1,000! That's HUGE. And ooh baby, that monitor would be JUICY!
Appreciate your support 👊
@@thesahdstudio out of curiosity, which monitor are you using?
@@Domerfly Oh I just recently bought a 32" LG 2k monitor off marketplace for a killer deal. It's nothing special. I wouldn't mind bumping up to a 4k one soon. I've considered the Mac Studio Display but it's a bit past what I can afford at the moment.
Unfortunately the M3 Pro was hobbled in this generation, so more potential buyers would do exactly what you did and upgrade to the Max. The M2 Pro had more performance cores and a faster memory bandwidth and made the decision to upgrade to Max harder, so Apple fixed that in the M3 generation. What is a real shame is that both the Pro and Max have too little RAM and storage for the price Apple charges and upgrades of both are insanely priced.
Yeah that's what it sounds like to me too from what I've been researching. I sort of get it from a marketing perspective... Maybe it's easier for people with normal needs to watch the videos and get a real idea of how well they will work. I need to see videos of all these computers doing exactly what I'm doing so I can really see which ones are better than the others... That's what I'm trying to do with my videos anyway. Hopefully it helps some.
What specs is your window machine?
It was: ASUS ROG Zephyrus 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black (AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/1TB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 2060)
@@thesahdstudio Thats crazy..... I might sell my macbook and get a windows. I use my laptop plugged in most of the time anyway. And defintely seeing the m3 pro struggle using 3d effects and fusion in davinci resolve. im constantly having to use Render Cache to playback smoothly.
@SharrodVisuals yeah if you like using VFX etc there's just no substitute for a graphics card. They get so hot and loud but still. But at that point I almost would rather build a little desktop if you're just leaving it plugged in all the time. Tough call. For me I realized I really don't use that many effects, and the upgrade to the main video editing was just so big it was worth sticking with the Mac. Not to mention the portable power performance. I guess my main takeaway was that we're just not fully there yet. Maybe in a couple more years.
@@thesahdstudio Ah I see, yeah I actually sold my big gaming rig with a 7900XTX and Ryzen 7800X3D for the portability since my soon to be born 2nd child will be kicking me out of my office.
I might sell my MacBook and buy a 4070 zephyrus or Alienware.
Yeah kids will do that lol. What MacBook do you have now?
I picked up a 14in m3 pro 18gb 512gb and love it so far. I have more powerful machines if i wanna do work. I just wanted a good sceen, battery life and the speakers are great. I might do light video editing on it, but it's more of a daily driver web surfing machine. I picked up a 13900hx 4080 laptop not long ago, and it's very fast, but the battery life is crap. As far as desktops, i have a 7950x3d 4090, 7800X3d 7900xtx, 12700k 3080ti. I never sell anything. i might be a pc hardware hoarder. This is my first mac I've been a pc guy for a long time and i would never only use a mac i like gaming too much but i can see the appeal of a mac and the apple ecosystem. It works great with my 15 pro max and airpod2 pro's. I find the 14in to be the perfect size for viewing and portability and love the new black color.
I love comments like this... They are both good in their own ways right? For video editing nothing is going to compete when it comes to graphics and adding effects like a video card... But as far as battery life and portability goes and power on the run.. Apple is on another level. They're like when Volkswagen was cheating and nobody could touch them, that's how far ahead they feel.
My friend you should sell some of your old hardware! Haha. Get some money back while you can and help someone save a few bucks. Heck I'll buy one off you! I've been adding more effects my new videos and that's still a bit of a struggle with the M3 Max but everything else is great.
@@thesahdstudio this is great! the same conclusion i got to. i got the base m3 max mbp 16 inch with 14/30 and 36gb ram after I tested the base M3 14 inch with only 8gb ram. it's light and day difference. But still my PC desktop Ryzen 9 5950x 128gb Ram and rtx 3090ti with 24 gb RAM crunches faster at many tasks than the M3 Max, especially in the Adobe Creative Suite. Denoise is faster on the PC than on the Max. I could have gotten the 16/40 Max 48tb Ram but it just was not worth it for me since i've seen reviews that that model is less power efficient and sometimes throttles due to more cores. Apple is still king in efficiency versus performance, but not in price/performance. So the PC with a great GPU is sometimes better for some tasks, while the Max is better with apps optimised for it such as FinalCutPro.
Nice! Yeah I didn't know enough about the cpu/gpus on the Max, so since I was upgrading from the Pro I wanted to push it and see what the big one was capable of you know? @@octny
That's nuts you paid that for the base pro, pro lol. I just got that model for $1799 same 18gb of ram and 512gb drive. I would never want to live in Canada where everything costs so much more.
Yeah man launch prices were Not cheap! I think the prices scale compared to the wages etc are here but yeah... They ain't cheap!! That's sweet that you got it though very exciting 👊 how do you like it?
Well, I am looking forward to buy a new laptop, for college, (so pdf, basically), web browsing, and some video/photo editing (not professional, just mirrorless pics and insta360 acepro videos), and I am confused about the MacbookAir M3 15" 16gb/512hd, wich it could be a nice option, but your MacbookPro 16 M3 Pro config, it could be maybe a good choice, for longevity, ports, display, and the power, spending 800€ more.... But then, I saw this ASUS ProArt Studiobook 16" H7604, wich is with a 3.2K OLED touchscreen display, nvidia geforce RTX 4070 (i9-13980HX) and 32GB ram, 1TB SSD + GeForce RTX4070 8gb (around 2600€).
So..... at this point, is it worth spend 3000€ for a macbook pro 16", or the asus could be a better choice? Which is better and powerful? 😁
I think it depends whether or not Battery life is important to you. It'd be nice to have a video card but that will come at a cost of a worse battery. The M3 laptops battery is incredible. But the lack of gaming does suck a bit.
You should be able to do all the stuff you mentioned on any of the laptops well.
I do miss having a Windows machine at times but it's also nice not having to charge my laptop for days at a time. The new Snapdragon laptops will be worth considering. I think I'm hearing they are coming out this summer?
Have you considered any refurbed options? You might be able to save a few bucks.
@@thesahdstudio Honestly? I prefer pay for something new, and my choice will go on a stable laptop... for now I am focused on the 16inch Macbook m3 Pro... because of all the ports, battery life and screen... and I guess apple devices are healtier than windows... but who knows
The pro is fantastic! You will love it. If you can afford the extra Ram I do recommend that if you're going to be doing video editing.
@@thesahdstudio do you think the MBP 16" 18ram/512sdd isn't enought?
@FrancoStrong92 that's a tough call man. If I was to buy it again myself I would get at least one terabyte and the 36 gigs of RAM. If you know you're going to have it for years you don't want to regret not having enough. The extra Ram is huge for video editing and the extra space is just nice to have in case you work on a big video project. Some of my projects get at least to be a few hundred gigabytes
I know this comment is a bit late, my concern with the max is the heat and battery for both daily use and while doing editing.
All good! I have not had one single issue with heat or battery with the max. The M3 Max in particular had an insane battery... I could Video edit a whole afternoon and not even worry I would end with 60 plus percent... On my m1 Max after the same few hours of heavy editing I might be down to 35%... So while the performances almost as good as the M3 the battery definitely isn't as good... And I never notice it heat up either or hear it... So unless you're working on some crazy codec or having super stacked timelines the heat isn't an issue. I use h.264 usually in 4k and often have at least multiple videos stacked.
@@thesahdstudio That’s good to hear, I’m looking at a 16” 1tb 36gb ram pro and a refurbished 16” 1tb 48gb ram max, I need it for both school, and video editing. I’m just trying to make sure if I’m running simple applications at school it won’t get loud or get warm.
The channel I edit for does commentary/documentary content on competitive gaming and would like to be able to keep up with the work flow there and also have a comfortable experience during lectures. There is nothing only a + $300 difference for the max so nothing crazy for me.
@@thesahdstudio I’m not sure if you have used it for casual work, did it’s battery/heat remain solid then too if you have?
@@LeebobVGC oh yeah it lasts for days. It's bonkers. Never noticed the heat even once. Cool as a cucumber.
@@LeebobVGC Yeah I mean the Max is going to be the best when it comes to editing without hiccups so it's hard not to recommend that if that's something you need it to be good at. It'll be awesome for the rest of the stuff you mentioned too. You could maybe get away with the Pro but if you want the best editing experience get the Max. It's just awesome.
If you were trying that with Premier they would have all crashed!! lol😂😅
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Damn, bro. You got some serious moves😂👍🕺
Hahaha thanks my man! I don't get many opportunities to bust out the moves as a 40 year old man anymore 😂
I think pro is good for entry level to medium level of editing. It's fast it handles most footage good and Studdards when you drop effects and stuff as you saw but if you aren't doing big projects you should be ok and it should get you through. I don't think pro couldn't handle the heavy work load I just think at the professional level every sec counts everything when it comes to studdaring and butter movements matter. Like if you editing a large project like a wedding you want the m3 max because you want to move seamlessly through apps you want the playback to run back smooth with effects titles stuff like that. If you doing heavy work loads like that I feel after watching this video you need the max. If you aren't doing big projects every week and just need a powerful machine pro with more ram and ssd you should be good. But if you are a professional you might just want to spend the extra money. Every sec counts you want a machine that can move seamlessly through big files render quick and doesn't Studdar on the timeline max matters.
Exactly. That's pretty much how I feel. The Pro is dam awesome until you really push it. Most people won't push it and for them it will be dam awesome!
really loving the content glad you are enjoying both machines and seeing the difference I think after watching a lot of videos people need to realize once you go professional its expensive for that standard on machines. the pro being 2500 its already expensive with the max its that 3k range you spending some real money to dedicate towards the craft. @@thesahdstudio
In My experience Even the Max is limited for a real professional workflow, and it is because when production scale up You need something that can connect to a fast server to edit, and the dongles and adapters available for M1,2 and 3 are just unreliable and tend to disconnect.
For example I'm now editing a show that is eating 96TB of space and I just cant use my MBP to edit since I don't want to spend $300 every three months on dongles that end up in the trash can.
So I would keep the most affordable laptop and get a Mac Studio, you'll have Best of both worlds and still have another thousand bucks for a good monitor or a Big hardrive.
@@sergiosanchez2012 Yeah that's interesting. And 96tb DAMM!
@@thesahdstudio yes, projects tend to get bigger as you go deeper into the postproduction rabbit hole.
Also keep in mind software will have updates to take advantage of the m3 chips soon….
Yeah good reminder! Can't wait to keep using this thing.
This absolutely is NOT a thing what are you evren talking about?? There is no change this isnt intel to apple silicon its just a new generation software is already set.
@@frostgodx hehe. I know on my Windows/Desktop, the Nvidia Experience app was always updating itself for newer software / newer hardware etc... I assume they commenter was just saying if there's tweaks companies can make to their software/games etc to make them run smoother on the M3 chips that might happen in the near future. But hey, it sounds like you might actually know what you're talking about where I certainly do not!
So the m3 max was like $150 more than a similar spec’d m3 pro. So I went big. Coming from m1pro MacBook pro
The extra video encoders on the Max is worth it in my opinion. It depends on what you're doing of course but for how I use it, no regrets!
Pro 36Gb ram and 1TB my choice , easy a pc for 5 years I don’t think we’ll go 8k videos on youtube
Yeah that's a nice setup. I find the extra video encoders from the Max lineup noticeable while video editing in Resolve so for me it was worth it. But for most and those who edit in Final Cut the Pro should be more than enough. That battery life too right? Sick.
I believe the M3 PRO is good enough for most of us and the M3 MAX for pro video editor
Yeah I think the pro is good enough to for sure. I mean I'm not a professional CZcamsr but I definitely enjoy having the extra power of the max chip for my workflow... And I'm a little older so I don't mind paying a few hundred extra bucks for it. Could I still grow my Channel with the M3 pro? Definitely
you can play all windows games in sonoma with the game porting toolkit .... i own a M3 max 40 Gpu cores 16 inch and gaming is great , so is Emulation too.
Do your fans kick in and does your Max get hot while gaming? I'd love to get a few more games working on here. Path of Exile works decent but it's not great. I might try Diablo 4 just to see how it runs but sadly I don't even want to play more Diablo 4 :( You playing anything fun?
@@thesahdstudio i'm mostly playing emulation like PS3 , dreamcast; Xbox titles that i loved but i've tried God Of War Ragnarok with game porting toolkit and despite the fact that it is some sort of virtualisation( but made by Apple to play windows games and see how they behave ) it is quite good if you play at 1800p in medium to high , B
ut of course you'll have way better results playing native mac games like Lies of P, Baldur's Gate 3, RE Village , FF XIV or no man sky and so on ,.
Apple is focusing on GPU more and more i think to bring more gamers and 3D artist on the mac who need a powerful GPU , on the 16 it is way less noisy or hot than on the 14 inch , No fans on any emulators, no fan nor heat playing native mac games, but Playing with game porting toolkit , fans can go near 3600rpm and it's a bit hotter , but nothing like the 14 inch M3 max .
some games have glitches but overall most of the windows big games are playable . of course a native port would allows those titles to run at higher res + quality but it's already quite amazing that they run even not plugged without perfomance loss... that is my experience so far, i have kept the 16 inch and sent back the 14 inch for various reasons. i do not mind the size.
Well M3 has faster single core. It is normal. However Max has just more power overall.
Both great machines! There are reasons why they are different... it's just tough for people to figure out exactly where they fit into the lineup. The Max really is overkill unless you have a specific program you know you need it for. For me, the extra video encoders make it absolutely worth it, but if it weren't for that, I'd be more than happy with the Pro.
On the ram, since more ram is available on the max applications just gobble up and earmark ram; Doesn't mean its actually being used.
Yeah for sure. I'm still learning what it all means myself so figured I would share it for people who actually know in case they're interested in the results.
I’m in the same boat brother, great content. Tired of benchmarks, rather see how it drives. I got a m3 pro 16 and torn on if I need to upgrade to either the 36 gb or jump to the max.
@@veelack Yeah I hear that man. What are you using it for mostly?
It looks like the M3 Pro was simply RAM limited with only 18GB to play with. I wonder how the unbinned 12-CPU 18-GPU with 36GB of RAM would fair.
I know... me too. I wish I had more resources to test this kind of stuff on multiple machines but I'm still a small 'tuber doing it out of pocket!
I just picked up a used M1 Max so will be comparing that one vs the M3 Max shortly.
@@thesahdstudio I feel you! Keep up the great work.
I returned my 14” M3 pro, the $2000 model the other day. Looking to get the 16” M3 pro with either 18 or 36gb ram. Too bad Best Buy doesn’t offer the pro chip with 1tb of storage. Have to do the 512 one.
I think for longevity it might be better to get the 36gb ram model. That way I might not have to worry about memory swap.
I’m also running windows 11 pro with parallels for the gaming. The extra ram should help.
I think the extra ram is the right choice. 1tb would be nice though. @@abdurrahmankhan129
@@thesahdstudioFor what I’m doing, which is practically nothing, it’s a wonder if upgrading to the $3500 max model would be better. Except for trying to get into swift and doing some gaming on windows 11 with parallels, do you think the price jump might be worth it? I’m concerned about the max with the heat and the extra fan noise.
How is it almost $5,299 pre-tax?? On the apple website the m3 max 1TB of SSD and 48GB RAM is $3,999.
Canadian prices!
After I commented I was thinking maybe you're from Canada. Damn!!! @@thesahdstudio
I am planning to get the 64 RAM and 2 TB with Final Cut Pro and it's still cheaper than that!
@@WesShoots Hehe. Yeah that's a sick setup man. Should last you a long time! I'm tempted to try out FCP myself.
Use proxies, keep the pro and save $1,000+ for other goodies
I've been on quite the journey since then! Yeah using proxies is a bit annoying but yeah, you're right, saving money IS nice. I have the M1 Max by now and the extra video encoders on the Max chips is worth it for me. No proxies!
@@thesahdstudio last month I went to the dark side and got the 14” MacBook Pro with the m3 pro chip, 512 ssd and 18gig ram (I think the same exact one you got) and I’ve been happy with it. It’s been a ride though, the last Apple i ever used was the Apple IIe!
Man… for 3d texturing in substance painter and Mari… some 3d rendering and 3d sculpting… m3 pro or m3 max?? 🤦🏻♂️
My dude I wish I could help you with this answer but I have 0 experience with those apps/uses :(
Bruh I ain’t gon lie my Mac is having a hard time handing video files that are 380GBs in up lol and I have the m3 MAX 16” with 16 core cpu and 40 core gpu and 48 GBs of memory. Probably not the most breasted out machine but people told me it can more than likely handle difficult task when it comes to editing or handling extremely high quality video.
Wow, what kind of files/codecs are you working on!? Professional work? I just have no idea what kind of workflow you've got going on over there and what/why it's stuttering. I'm not sure if you watched the Tech Notice channel (you should, it's awesome!) but he def recommends at least 64gb ram if not more, so perhaps that's the problem... Jeez, I guess proxies etc would be a gigantic pain eh? I wonder what the Pro's use for computers.
@@thesahdstudio I recorded a 4 hour video in Apple VT ProRes Hardware Encoder (ProRes 422) it creates very huge video files and when I try to open the file it takes quite a few tries to get it open 😅 sometimes it won’t open at all. Especially if I used an external hard drive (LaCie) as a pathway for my recordings. Man I was told this type of stuff was “light work” for this type of computer lol
@daquanwright4652 lol yeah that could be frustrating... I can't imagine anybody saying 400 GB files would be easy to work on though, that's pretty nuts! I'll type itself shouldn't be difficult for the computer to work on... Like if you had a smaller file do you have any issues? Is it possible to break a piece like that into smaller chunks?
@@thesahdstudio I guess I could try but is video files of that size not the norm for wanting record and edit in high quality? I was recording in ProRes (422). Maybe I should have just went with regular 4K? Sorry for all the questions , im just new to this streaming , recording and editing stuff😅
No that's cool man I'm learning as I go too. Yeah there are benefits to shooting with compressed files. I don't think working on files that massive are the way to go even though ProRes is generally ideal for video editing. That's just too big. You might want to try shooting in a compressed format... they are generally smaller and more manageable file sizes that are harder for computers to work on. BUT, your computer is so dam good it should be able to edit without needing proxies or anything. Let me know if you give it a go. @@daquanwright4652
Is an M3 Pro with 36GB RAM going to be a better investment than going all the way to the M3 Max to solve some of these issues?
Or is the CPU/GPU the bottleneck?
Yeah I think the CPU/GPU really allow the Max to soar. But to be honest, I'm starting to think the Max is a little overkill for me. It is incredible but it just costs so much money.
I think the Pro with more ram would be great to have.
@@thesahdstudio why not the base Max with 14 cores CPU/16 cores GPU and 36gb RAM and 1tb SSD? i got it and love it. no need for the M3 16/40. My PC with a 3090ti beats the Max GPU by far....
Yeah that's STILL a lot of money... but yeah that way you still get the encoders of the Max chip without as much overkill everything else. I'm happy with this M1 still, especially for the price! @@octny
7:31 All the delusions of windows fanboys destroyed in 3 seconds
Haha right? That was when I really started to safeguard Apple Silicon chips.
Cool dancing 👍🏻
lmao thanks man!
best advice is get macbook pro m3 pro and mac studio with that amount. that what I am doing!!
Yeah that's not bad advice at all. What monitor will you get with your Studio?
@@thesahdstudio I own the Studio Display and the Mac Studio M1 Max. Now im getting the MacBook Pro for traveling or light editing
Have you been happy with that monitor? I've been monitor shopping and it's not as straight forward as you think with resolutions etc @@gsanchez922
@@thesahdstudio I love it. Color matching between my devices is easy, the speaker are really good for must video editing. I own print some of my photos and color accuracy has been great not complaining