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Browning T-Bolt .22lr First Review
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2014
- My first impressions and quick review of my Browning T-Bolt .22lr rimfire rifle. Fitted with an MTC Mamba 4-16x44 scope and a Wildcat .22WMR over barrel silencer.
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Browning has been making straight pull bolts in most of their bolt rifles for the European markets. 7
Reloading is so much faster. The Maral .308 is one example.
Yes the trigger guard should be made of steel. Everything else is of high quality walnut and polished steel so it seems odd to slap on a plastic part like that. Especially considering the cost of the rifle. How does Zastava make a rifle that costs less than half the T bolt and yet has better finish and all steel parts? Somone is trying to make money where they shouldn't be fiddling.
That is a cracking little rifle you have there mate. I am particularly partial to the Browning line of firearms and it was wonderful watching you bang away with the T bolt.
That's a really nice gun, wish it was more popular in the U.S. so I can see one in person if I was looking to buy one. Unfortunately I probably would need to order it if I wanted one. Would love to compare it to a CZ.
The triggers not great out if the box at around 3.5lbs but I have since fitted a jard trigger with 1.2lbs and it’s a joy to shoot.
Yep! As a Browning riffles fan i totally agree with you! Those guns are awesome... I have a 222 A-Bolt Composite Stalker and also a 243 X-Bolt with a GRS Stock! It Rocks!!!
I have to admit I went with a Tikka for my big bore rifle in the end but the X bolt was on the list!
I never use lead ammo. It's very difficult to clean out. Use copper plated or copper jacketed bullets very easy to clean with good solvent.
Really nice looking gun! Hope to see more of it in action!
I'm sure you will soon! Thanks for watching :)
I have one, and I really like it. I wish the spare magazines weren't so expensive.
+Edward Peterson Yeah they are a bit pricey, I don't need more than two though.
I'm happy I've gone with the synthetic body because it has the spare mag in the stock which I don't think the wood one does. I'm excited to go pick it up in a few days since my PTA just arrived. Already got some hollow points and lead bullets in the safe and waiting. Hopefully find some foxes and rabbits on my grandads farm.
No the wood one doesn't come with a spare mag, I bought a spare separately and it wasn't cheap at about £50. But I have to say the wood is pretty! If you're going after foxes then try out the Winchester 42 grain subsonics, they are made for the job ;)
+srspower yeah we got the winchesters so I'm keen to give them a try. I must say the wood is a nice look but in saying that they only had the synthetic one at the shop but I like it. Might go get it painted I'd heard of someone who does a really good job nearby.
The mag also reminds me of my BSA superten. I always thought it was over complicated but it never gave me any problems. Good vid!
It works well and its nice to have ten shots flush with the action. Thanks for watching! :)
i dig the straight pull bolt, kinda like a k31.
Yeah, as it's new the bolt is fairly stiff but it will loosen up overtime and be a lot faster than a regular bolt action. Thanks for watching Gabe :)
I just got a browning 525 (28" barrels) second hand from Ian coleys! Amazing value for £950 as my first shotgun! I'm in love with it.....
Sounds about the right price, I paid 1200 for mine at Ian Coleys also. Wonderful shopping experience there :)
hi thanks for your video. i am just waiting on my first fac certificate. i am thinking of getting one of these with the laminate stock and stainless barrel. it says that it comes with the scope bases can you tell me if they are picatinny or dove tail? that is if your rifle came with scope bases or maybe you had to buy them as extras. thanks john
I am looking at trading in my BRNO mod 2 for a new 22. I'm either looking for a T-bolt (which will match my X-bolt), or a 10/22. What are your thoughts after having the T-bolt for a while now?
it's excellent except the trigger won't go below about 3.5lbs and it being very light can take some getting used to. For me once I have a camera attached to it it's the perfect weight. Either way a LOT more accurate than a 1022.
Very nice rifle, was looking at the synthetic varmint version a couple of years ago with spare mag in the stock, ended up with a Weatherby mk 22, very interesting magazine on the t bolt it seems to feed okay, enjoy the reviews.
Yeah the synthetic is a good deal with the spare mag, I got a spare mag separately and I think it was around £40. Thanks for watching :)
Beautiful Gun. I'd like to have one. I've seen one in .22 wmr, which is what I'd prefer, being as I already have a few .22lr weapons. OTOH, I'd also like one of the Henry's, and they're less money. Decisions...
Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks for watching :)
I'm literally torn between this or a henry classic lever.
Would be nice to see you take out a rabbit or 2 with that very nice little bit of kit, keep up the good vids.
Thats the plan! Thanks for watching :)
Doesn't really relate to this but if you ever get the chance have a go on a muzzle loading black powder rifle I was lucky enough to try one the other day and they are so much fun to shoot.
Yes I had to train with a .58 cal muzzle loader for my probation at the club. Great fun to shoot :)
***** We had to be trained with several types of firearms during our probation. Muzzle loaders were a recent inclusion because there had been discussion about new shooters having to pass a test to be allowed to use them on the range due to potential for explosions etc.
Nice review, I like the bolt, very nice.
Enjoying the channel!
Mike
Yes it's a bit different and a lot faster, weirdly though with an even stronger lockup than a regular bolt. Glad you're enjoying the vids, I have been away in Morocco for the last couple of weeks but there will be more to come. Thanks for watching :)
Is there a .22lr shortage in the U.K.? I'm curious because it's pretty difficult to get a hold of .22 ammo in the states. I think a lot of new gun owners bought AR-15's with .22 conversion kits, and are hoarding all of the ammo; but that's just speculation on my part.
Well ELEY HP Subsonics, which are very popular, have been hard to come across lately. But generally speaking no issues at all.
I think your .22lr ammo drought is definitely a US thing! Thanks for watching :)
Cool looks a sweet bit o kit lol. I love the weird and wonderful when it comes to firearms. But I'm a 10/22 man me lol. All my mates have got the czs. Even now I'm surprised what a .22 is capable of excellence calibre in my eyes. Cool video again bud I was getting worried cos you haven't posted for a while lol. Keep up the good work take care cheers
That's because I have been on holiday to Morocco! You should check my facebook group to keep up to date. And yes the .22lr is a great calibre and very affordable too. Thanks for watching :)
I thought about buying this. It looked good, was light and had a neat system with straight pull and that magazine. The reports I heard though was the trigger was horrible and there is no way of fixing it or any drop in replacements. That put me off but I still think about it. Not that I need any more 22LRs - I wouldn't buy a 17HMR version as I can reload 223 for the same price as 17HMRs and 223's are just a bit better. Hope the set-up is working well for you.
Those UK gun rules are enough to make one move to another country - which is what I did as I love my pistol shooting too much. I hear the UK have their eyes on banning semi-autos next - even 22LR`s.
+leboucdetrambly Yeah I must admit in hindsight I wish I had laid down a bit more money and just bought and anschutz as the trigger does let this rifle down. But you can fix it, so I have been told, you just need a good gunsmith to polish the sear. A guy on the pigeonwatch forums has one in .17hmr and reckons his is now about 2.5lbs which is pretty good. I'm not mad on it being single stage either though! At the moment its like clicking a heavy mouse button. But you can overcome it, yesterday i was getting smaller than 5 pence groups at 25 metres and I did manage to shoot a rabbit at 70 metres with it. Just takes practise I guess. The laws here do suck, semi auto centre fire has been banned since the 1980's and pistols since the late 90's. But you can still have .22lr in semi auto and my friend has a 'long barreled revolver' which is legally a 'carbine rifle' so its basically a Taurus model 66 with a 12" barrel and an arm rest. Good fun to shoot in .44 magnum the size takes out a lot of recoil. Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for the reply. It's good to get a honest reply. So many people won't tell the whole story about their rifle/pistol.
I was hanging off hoping that either Browning would make a better trigger or someone would make an aftermarket drop in trigger. On the subject of Anschutz: I looked over a few different models, yes their triggers are great but the wooden stocks look rubbish and for the price they are asking they are overpriced. The T Bolt offers much better value at the price - I think you made a good choice even with that one annoying issue.
I went for a Sako Quad after a lot of deciding. I chose the Hunter deluxe version. The trigger was already good but by changing a spring it was super smooth - probably too light for hunting, but I like it. The stock is excellent and the metal finish great. I changed the bolt for a better metal one and the trigger guard for an metal one. The rifle is as accurate as a 22LR can be. As always the variable rimfire ammo limits the ultimate result. A bench rest will produce 5-10 pence groups at 50m. I run mine with an ASE Ultra sound mod ( give them a look) - very happy with the results. I have a few other mods but that one is the best. I use CCI standard they are already subsonic in speed and are cheaper than brands that are marked subsonic.
I see sound moderators are a bit cheaper in the UK - what are the rules on buying one these days? Can you for example buy one that states it is for rimfire/airgun use and then say it is for an airgun?
I wasn't interested in the ability to change barrels on the Sako, just wanted a decent 22LR. My other 22LRs are - Marlin 39A, S&W MP15-22 Semi auto, Winchester 9422 (just bought and the guy has posted it to my girlfriend so I'll see it when I get back) and a Unique V49 semi-auto - a rare French made rifle, no longer made.
For my pistol shooting I stick to 9mm as it's easy to reload and hence cheaper. The rule over here is no more than 12 pistols or semi autos (any calibre). For the other rifles/shotguns there is no limit. If I need more my girlfriend will just get some and that will cover all the bases.
I shoot in France - European wild boar and deer where I live. Unfortunately the rabbit population is zero - between disease and buzzards there are none to be had. When I lived in Scotland I shot loads of rabbits :-) it's a great sport with a 22LR. The French see 22LRs as just too puny to shoot anything and I can't convince them that shooting crows and rabbits with a 22LR is effective and cheap.
Every country has its stupid, unnecessary rules. In France you can't hunt with a sound mod, nor at night. You can't use a semi auto if it has more than 3 shots. Of course the overall picture is I'm in one of the better countries in Europe for keen shooters.
I see that people in Scotland will soon need to be vetted and have a licence just for a puny airgun - the whole situation of shooter persecution has gone crazy and is so unnecessary. Read this article and try to stay calm www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/09/10/hand-over-your-guns-says-chief-inspector
Happy shooting,
Regards
Mark
As it happens I am going wildfowling in France at Christmas. I have family there and I have been invited by my cousin as well as this other guy. Trouble is my french is non existent! I will need a dictionary. Silencers are a funny thing in the UK. For an airgun anyone over 18 can buy one and as they are cut for a 1.2" UNF thread they will fit and work on a .22lr. But if you did that you'd be breaking the law! For a silencer to fit to a section 1 rifle you need it as a slot on your license. Strangley a silencer counts as a firearm and so has to be in the cabinet etc. I use a 'wildcat whisper' on my t bolt. Very good quality, they normally retail at £160 but I got mine for £60 because the shop couldn't figure out whether it was a trade in or new!
+srspower Don't worry about the language. When I first moved here I was a total non-speaker. I was a reluctant learner at 40 years old. Years later and with my French girlfriend and children the days of fear are behind me.
I wish the French could get over the problem with the sound mod and hunting. I will try to write a letter and get some support. I might try the hearing damage angle.
Now that is interesting with the sound mods but £160 is too much. Sometimes I buy stuff in the UK (and the US) and take it home but that price isn't that great. Your £60 is a 'nice price'. The interior of the Wildcat looks really well made. Don't like the 'g*y' purple end part though.
Hope your wild fowling trip works out - get well wrapped up, France can sometimes get super cold in Winter.
Cheers, Mark
Not gonna lie I'm almost sold on the browning tbolt! I'm looking at buying a Anschutz 1416 but I really like the look of these rifles! What scope and rings are that mate?
It's an MTC mamba 4 - 16x40 I'm not sure about the mounts.
I got one of these Saturday , grey laminate & steel finish , compared to my hw100 that I traded in this is so light , just so busy at work I won't be able to use it till xmas holidays 😡
Well it gives you something extra special to enjoy over xmas :)
srspower dude , what shells do you use with you're T bolt ?
wesmander I mostly use CCI subs.
srspower will give them a try , used Eley subs today , even with a moderator some were quite loud while others were really quiet , is this normal ?, tried my maxus out this afternoon as well , farm I shoot on is normally packed with 1000s woodies , today the skies were empty , good Christmas questions vid , when are you getting into politics , we need common sense people after decades of leftie liberal elite idiots !
Hi there, really like your channel. I just wondered what made you go for .22lr calibre as apposed to .17hmr? I'm getting a t-bolt in .17hmr v soon. Cheers EJ
I would have liked the .17hmr but unfortunately West Mercia insist that you have 'experience' shooting the .17hmr in the field with someone who signs something to say they have taken you out. Given that in itself is illegal it makes things tricky! But the .22lr is a lot cheaper and quieter to shoot so I don't mind too much. Glad you like the channel :)
Ironic we can't get a suppressor w/o jumping through hoops, that most of us have no interest jumping through here in USA.
Ramblequist need to bring in the health and safety people and say loud noises hurt your ears
NICE !!!!!!! Like the t bolt ;) look ford to more videos with it ;) all the best XD
Thanks for watching :)
What do you prefer.. This Browning 22LR or the CZ 22LR?
Matt Pleiter The CZ definitely has a much better trigger which is the most important bit really. In every other way the T bolt is better though.
+srspower I have to agree. I loved my T bolt especialy the speed of the straight pull and the magazine but the trigger was dreadful!! I gave the gun to a gunsmith to see if he could do anything with it and apart from making me a new metal trigger group (the Browning one is all plastic) costing twice what I paid for the gun new he did what he could but in the end I changed it for a savage which has a much beter trigger and is less ammo fussy but if Browning sorted the trigger I'd have another T bolt in a heartbeat.
Lance Rose I must admit I have got used to it, I managed to shoot a rabbit at 65 yards in the head standing recently anyway. I think part of the problem is the lightness of the rifle as well as the heavy trigger. Strapping my camera to the top of the scope gives it a nice bit of extra weight which makes it more manageable. I'm surprised your smith couldn't polish the sears I have heard of others having it done without an issue.
Gunsmith did a good job lightening the trigger but there's only so much polishing you can do to a plastic trigger. He changed the springs also. I also found it very ammo fussy. It would only shoot reasonably well with Eley subs and nothing else. I gave it to several friends who have open FAC's are very experienced shooters and have every thing from .22LR up to 7mm 08 centrefire rifles and they couldn't shoot it very accurately either so I got rid of it. Despite all of that if browning sorted out the trigger (their A and X bolt centre fires are the same even the new 'super feather' modles are not adjustable and set at 2.5 pounds I like my triggers lighter) I would buy another one. Best magazine and boltaction by a country mile.
Lance Rose Thats a funny one as mine has been pretty good with ammo, only Winchester subs and CCI segmented rounds cause issues. CCI subs or stingers group really well.
Great video!!
+Strutingeagle Thanks for watching :)
Melting in the sun???? I was in merry olde England for two years and I don't think you will have to worry too much about that happening.
Nice rifle dude. When are we gonna see it in action with the bunnies?
Soon! Thanks for watching :)
Nice rifle, man
+Petis333 It certainly is, thanks for watching :)
Lovely gun ! Hope u have many foxes and rabbits to it !
Me too! Thanks for watching :)
have u still got this? are you still happy with it ? i might buy one if so
Thanks mate ;)
Cool, did you have a good holiday? What do I need to search on fb to find you? Cheers
Yes thankyou, great to get some sun at this time of year! Search for srspower or just click the link in the video description :)
Cool cheers bud
Quantos modelo n cal 17 hmr
What kind of scope?
Why not buy the 22 wmr version? The straight pull is a gimmick imo, doesn't feel too smooth either...if you want quick just get a cz 512 or savage in 22 wmr.
How many .22 do the Old Bill let you have ? Pm me if you don't want to tell the world :)
Well I put down three but as a club member I have good reason to have as many as I like to be honest. Thanks for watching :)
Maganda yan.bilhin kuna
Sweet cheers mate ;)
Thanks for watching Ash :)
they brilliant guns just like the hmr 17 and hornet 22 theres just no recoil atall wot so ever my air rifles hav more recoil
Yes very smooth and very quiet too. Thanks for watching :)
not much difference in noise with air rifles and rimfires
Why not choose a CZ?
Exactly, save yourself the frustration of this trigger & a harder than normal bolt pull, buy a CZ, Annie or even a good Savage, I own them all and dislike this one the most.
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***** did you darken the stock?
Nope the stock is as it comes, thanks for watching :)
awesome thanks Srspower!
Wildcat on a rimfire over kill or what lol
Yeah the wildcat is designed for a .22WMR but it was what they had in the shop and I got it half price. The company who make wildcat silencers are actually local to me, I used to buy a lot of shotgun shells and clay pigeons off them when they had a retail shop. Thanks for watching :)
Hi mate do you know what the law is like with shotgun cabinets being in caravans ?????? XD
No idea! Sounds a dodgy proposition to be honest. I guess you need to ask your FEO.
My grandad had his shotguns in a safe in the old caravan but this was a static oneand it was befir I was born 19 odd years but it might still be possible
Is it ambidextrous
The stock is yes but the bolt can't be switched to the other side. Thanks for watching :)
Nah Anti-Material rifle for pigeons and rabbits. XD
Might be a little OTT!
If I wanted to listen to stinking music for the first minute I'd have gone to another channel.
Why go and do that then.
It is a bit annoying with intros on a YT clip, it eats up a lot of time and serves no real purpose.
Robert Underdunk Terwilliger Neither do you, but your parents kept you
Fuck off then