Is the NEW Reclaimer 18 Shotgun Any Good? | (Stats & Best Attachments)

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
  • Welcome to Modern Warfare III Gun Guides! This is the series where I dive deep into the stats of a gun and share the best attachment setups based on tons of testing and data collection! In today's episode, we're breaking down the Reclaimer 18 (SPAS 12) Shotgun. What are your thoughts on this gun in MWIII?
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    0:00 Intro
    0:20 Rate of Fire (Pump vs Semi)
    0:48 Range & Shots to Kill (Pump)
    1:35 Range & Shots to Kill (Semi)
    2:30 Pellet Spread Comparisons
    3:22 Handling Stats
    4:28 Movement Speeds
    4:54 Barrel Stats
    5:57 Ammo Types
    7:36 Reclaimer 18 - All Around Pump Build
    8:59 Reclaimer 18 - Tac Stance Build
    10:10 Reclaimer 18 - Semi-Auto Hipfire Build
    11:29 Final Thoughts & Wrap Up
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Komentáře • 393

  • @BSoloe
    @BSoloe Před 20 dny +272

    I’ve never seen a shotty that’s so trash and so good at the same time 😂

    • @jeremybrown9611
      @jeremybrown9611 Před 20 dny +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 Před 20 dny +12

      It’s honestly really weird that pump and semi have two completely different spreed with different properties when adsing

    • @inconspicuous7464
      @inconspicuous7464 Před 20 dny

      The 680 from mw19 was similar to this too

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny +16

      ​@inconspicuouds7464 dont you ever compare the model 680 with this garbage we got now

    • @elvistwatty
      @elvistwatty Před 20 dny +2

      @bsoloe what's up

  • @isaiahmiller9142
    @isaiahmiller9142 Před 20 dny +87

    This explains why it felt so bad compared to the other shotguns, which already feel terrible compared to last year. That extra 50 health with no other changes seems to have ruined more than a few weapons, including the crossbow.

    • @ignasias
      @ignasias Před 19 dny +2

      I still main crossbow. It's definitely worse than it was in mw2. But slosive bolts are still always a one-shot, regular bolts can still one-shot to the upper chest. Thermite bolts have become useless though. Fart bolts were always useless lol

    • @isaiahmiller9142
      @isaiahmiller9142 Před 19 dny

      @@ignasias I never mained it, but it was fun to grind out and go back to every so often. Now, it would be a complete slog, especially with how many people are running EOD.

    • @medleyfriends9525
      @medleyfriends9525 Před 19 dny

      ​@@isaiahmiller9142afaik, the Crossbow will kill EOD users with a stuck bolt

    • @dankmctwist6575
      @dankmctwist6575 Před 19 dny +6

      meanwhile melee players get to walk around the corner completely unaware of their surroundings, tank 6 shots and then one shot you🤦‍♂️
      at this point just bring panic knifing back😭

    • @isaiahmiller9142
      @isaiahmiller9142 Před 19 dny +2

      @@dankmctwist6575 anyway, here's this buckshot
      *hitmarker on melee user*
      Guess I'll respawn then

  • @RipVanWinkle-zm7vs
    @RipVanWinkle-zm7vs Před 20 dny +87

    Being able to use this thing in MWIII and then going straight to the MW2 2009 SPAS-12 just puts you on perspective on how trash this game balancing is.
    They seem to love one shot snipers but lord forgive SH if they make a shotgun good

    • @Cookies-uw1wp
      @Cookies-uw1wp Před 20 dny +15

      really sad after how they made the kar a god weapon

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Před 20 dny +9

      Funny how it’s the exact opposite in warzone, this is actually amazing in warzone while the snipers are ass

    • @fuhrerhosty
      @fuhrerhosty Před 19 dny

      @@Deathmare235 Nobody cares about warzone though.

    • @utopicdistortion4330
      @utopicdistortion4330 Před 19 dny +19

      Are you really comparing this game to MW2 2009? lmao There was NO balance in that game, everything was overpowered, get out of here.

    • @KAACHOW
      @KAACHOW Před 19 dny +3

      They’re trying so hard to please the community, but mostly everyone in the community complains about shotguns being OP. In the one place they’re supposed to excel at, they suck. Instead of blaming shotguns being for being OP, they should blame themselves for being braindead and having bad positioning.

  • @Tiduspeco
    @Tiduspeco Před 20 dny +26

    2 notes about this shotgun. First, for some reason they decided to completely break the Crown Breaker Choke which was the go-to choice for hip fire as it was way better at that than the other chokes. Now it's so bad that it has worse hip fire than the Bryson Choke and without the added ADS spread buff you get with the Bryson and Bryson Improved Chokes. This applies across all shotguns and effectively nerfed all of them quite a bit. Second, I've tested all configurations of this shotgun and found that the damage in pump-action is actually different depending on if you ADS or not. Fully set up for range and hip fire spread, it would 1-shot ADS kill up to about 18m. But when hip firing, I could not find a consistent 1-shot range at all. Even at under 5m with all pellets hitting the target, it would only sometimes 1-shot, even in tac-stance. So similar to the MW2 guns switched to semi-auto mode, this gun has 2 different damage values in pump-action mode depending if you're ADS or not. Because of these 2 things, I wouldn't waste my time on this gun anymore until they do something to fix it. As trash as the Lockwood 680 is, it's still a better shotgun than this.

    • @mikomondaysharp
      @mikomondaysharp Před 19 dny +1

      noticed the choke change immediately surprised ace didnt mention it at all in his video...

    • @steppenhenge
      @steppenhenge Před 18 dny

      @@mikomondaysharp I noticed my ball riveter hipfire min isn't 0.0 anymore...

  • @reesemoore8542
    @reesemoore8542 Před 20 dny +106

    Most of the time the shotgun is going to one shot it insane ranges and then other times you're going to get a point blank ADS headshot hit marker

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny +2

      no its not lol

    • @BackupReal
      @BackupReal Před 20 dny +31

      @@Calma123_ I got a 15 meter one shot kill and immediately loose a point blank gunfight with 3 hit markers. This is spot on

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny

      @@BackupReal yh 15 meter one shot out of 1/10 times trying

    • @drakey2000
      @drakey2000 Před 20 dny +1

      After playing with it yea. It's wonky lol. Albeit don't have all attachs

    • @mrlamichael1
      @mrlamichael1 Před 19 dny +2

      Bro it’s so inconsistent 😂😂

  • @epicgamerzfail4575
    @epicgamerzfail4575 Před 20 dny +53

    idk whats with cod devs and making the alternate ammo types always significantly worse for shotguns. Also shame to see how bad the semi auto mode is; was hoping we could get a hybrid semi auto/pump action gun, but it seems like there's no reason to use this gun in semi auto mode aside from the funnies.

    • @freezypop8799
      @freezypop8799 Před 19 dny +6

      Making slugs so bad is the thing I don’t get, it should be able to one shot body consistently to at least the same as the default ammos max damage range, imo it wouldn’t be OP because it’s just a watered down sniper

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 Před 19 dny +1

      @@freezypop8799 i think they are terrified at a vanguard situation

    • @KAACHOW
      @KAACHOW Před 19 dny +1

      @@mryellow6918i thought MW2 had a good middle ground

    • @casualspawnpeeking3680
      @casualspawnpeeking3680 Před 9 dny

      @@freezypop8799 in vanguard there was a period of time where one of the shotguns with slugs functioned like a watered down sniper and it was awful to play against

    • @freezypop8799
      @freezypop8799 Před 9 dny

      @@casualspawnpeeking3680 I only played the beta, which shotgun was it?

  • @ScarsOfTheStars
    @ScarsOfTheStars Před 20 dny +224

    Its likely for balance reasons but having a shotgun that requires two shots to kill feels so wrong

    • @jonathanwilson1539
      @jonathanwilson1539 Před 20 dny +47

      Blame the community..

    • @ianday5604
      @ianday5604 Před 20 dny +37

      Do you Remember the Brecii from BO3? If a semi-auto Shotgun has a consistent enough 2 Hit kill it can be super strong.

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 Před 20 dny +5

      It’s tubler so I would say give it better damage and one tap in semi like the haymaker, it really needs it for semi

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 Před 20 dny +24

      @@jonathanwilson1539ya small map brainrot tends to do that to people, the shotguns in this game need buffs

    • @BackupReal
      @BackupReal Před 20 dny +25

      The fact is easier to win close to medium gunfights with sniper rifles than literal shotguns or SMGS tells you all about this games weapon balancing.
      150hp shouldn't be a thing. I recommend trying 100hp on private matches.

  • @RobertoHernandez-ce2fv
    @RobertoHernandez-ce2fv Před 20 dny +35

    I unlocked the spas yesterday and it’s been VERY inconsistent. Even at point blank I’m getting hit markers. Trash shotgun only got added as “fan service” 😂. No matter how many shotguns get added, Lockwood 680 will always be king.

    • @Honeneko.
      @Honeneko. Před 20 dny

      I've been getting some ridiculous long shots, so idk.

    • @BackupReal
      @BackupReal Před 20 dny +4

      Im just glad we actually got another "Modern" Warfare weapon instead of another AW gun

    • @getthegoons
      @getthegoons Před 20 dny +6

      ​@@BackupRealSpas-12 was manufactured 1979-2000. Chronologically I want to say it's further from us, than the Bal-27 is.

    • @BackupReal
      @BackupReal Před 20 dny +5

      @@getthegoons I understand your point, but its still a totally out of place fictional weapon for this franchise. So its the same story

    • @RipVanWinkle-zm7vs
      @RipVanWinkle-zm7vs Před 20 dny

      ​@@getthegoonsSo which is the fake weapon? The SPAS or the BAL?

  • @Honeneko.
    @Honeneko. Před 20 dny +9

    Thank you for taking some time to upload this.
    I was getting some bad results in the range for the alt fire. It was allowing me to get one-shots that weren't possible in a match, no matter how tight the spread could get.
    In the slower fire mode, I have been able to get some ridiculous ranged one-shots.

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce  Před 20 dny +13

      Yeah, I got excited doing some testing in the Firing Range but something is definitely messed up there like stacking hitboxes or something.

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 Před 20 dny

      its probably a lot easier to hit targets in the firing range than in real matches, so the consistent one shots make a lot more sense

    • @BetaBreaking
      @BetaBreaking Před 19 dny +2

      ​@@TheXclusiveAceI feel like it's bugged somehow. It's so inconsistent in pump mode and useless in semi. Even with 10 pellets I don't feel a difference in how it performs. Just weird all around and disappointing as a shotgun user

  • @Adderflail
    @Adderflail Před 20 dny +11

    The gun has upper body damage multipliers, so you need to aim for the chest for consistency. It has the downsides of using a slug but with the spread of a normal shotgun.

    • @emwols
      @emwols Před 19 dny +6

      Ding ding ding ding. It’s a sniper shotgun

    • @Naksiio
      @Naksiio Před 18 dny

      Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?

  • @smallvillefever6258
    @smallvillefever6258 Před 20 dny +64

    It's not a bad shotgun, but it's definitely inconsistent at close range. You will one-shot people, but then at another close range, you have to shoot 2 or 3 times to kill... at the same range.

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny +9

      its pure garbage, even worse than the lockwood nerfed 680

    • @theholyfetus3097
      @theholyfetus3097 Před 20 dny +2

      It's completely terrible. How much did you smoke before writing this absurdity?

    • @smallvillefever6258
      @smallvillefever6258 Před 20 dny +2

      @theholyfetus3097 I mean at one game I went with 50 plus kills with it. I wouldn't call it terrible, it's inconsistent. If you having trouble with it, that's a you problem bro

    • @shadowtitan8545
      @shadowtitan8545 Před 20 dny +3

      ​@smallvillefever6258 it's a good shotgun but a coin flip if it wants to one-shot makes it bad imo. (I dropped 54 kills with it last night) but then there are games where the Lockwood is better.

    • @smallvillefever6258
      @smallvillefever6258 Před 20 dny +3

      @shadowtitan8545 How I base a terrible weapon is when it's constantly shitty at damage wise and does nothing but actually get you killed most of the time. This shotty is just inconsistent and not terrible cause one minute it does one shot, and the next, it doesn't. If that gets fixed then we have a great shotgun. But I respect your opinion as well, this is just my opinion

  • @DainRiffgin89
    @DainRiffgin89 Před 20 dny +9

    Part of the issue with it feeling inconsistent is, if you look at the advanced stats, it deals 88 damage to the head and upper chest, but 44 to the lower torso and legs. So to get those consistent 1 shot kills, you need to aim for their upper chest. I will admit I have gone on some nasty tears with this gun, but it is so inconsistent that I can also get tons of hit markers even against players that are already hurt. While the range can be nasty, semi auto is not great and pump is only good if you ads and are aiming high. Honestly I would be willing to lose some range for more consistency, because other than novelty, I feel the Lockwood 680 is still better overall. And don’t get me started on the utter state of MWII shotguns…

    • @utopicdistortion4330
      @utopicdistortion4330 Před 19 dny

      i haven't brought this game yet but i also remember the cold war shotguns having a delay between hipfire and ads to avoid people from quicksoping with the pump shotguns. You would have to ads for a few miliseconds before the bullets get tighter. And even xclusive ace in this video tries to quick scope sometimes so maybe that also plays into fact here.

  • @25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat

    Great vid as always

  • @emwols
    @emwols Před 19 dny +5

    One thing I think you forgot to mention is that you have to hit the upper torso to maximize its one shot kill potential! If you hit the torso past close range it gives a hit marker

    • @Naksiio
      @Naksiio Před 18 dny

      Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?

  • @Chanman886sGaming
    @Chanman886sGaming Před 20 dny +1

    I agree with you I was struggling with this shotgun, like you mentioned it is inconsistent especially on pump action. I will give the tac stance a try to see if that helps a bit.

  • @chuteu260
    @chuteu260 Před 19 dny +1

    I didn’t know there was a difference in the 2 different modes, thx for that

  • @DeathJr96R
    @DeathJr96R Před 20 dny +2

    I found that so long as you stick to using it in pump action mode and only, put the long barrel on, the best choke, and use the best ADS speed attachments for the other 3 slots, it's pretty strong and fast.

    • @Naksiio
      @Naksiio Před 18 dny

      Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?

  • @alext.7517
    @alext.7517 Před 20 dny +2

    I’ve noticed with the no stock attachment it feels like jumping is farther and you can change directions in mid air

  • @StyxYRenegade
    @StyxYRenegade Před 20 dny +6

    I haven’t seen a 19m OHK kill with shotgun shells ever since the M30 Drilling

    • @T0anto
      @T0anto Před 19 dny +1

      > Completely forgets about MW2019
      Don't blame ya, christ that MP is unbearable to play nowadays

  • @the_lifeoftimbo
    @the_lifeoftimbo Před 20 dny +6

    They need to buff the damage of the pellets so the gun could have more *consistency* in its maximum damage ranges. Too many times you’ll get the random hit marker that doesn’t do no damage to your enemy up close and it’ll just get u killed

  • @austinjordan8308
    @austinjordan8308 Před 19 dny

    I love it when theres actual differences between fire modes. I love the FTAC Recon since its so versatile, and no the M4 AMP is not even close to the same thing

  • @helix4267
    @helix4267 Před 20 dny +3

    I wish they made the ammo types usable, the idea of having specialized shells in your shotgun is super cool, it just sucks that they all cut the guns performance in half

    • @Naksiio
      @Naksiio Před 18 dny

      Hello, You have to help me please, I don't have the pump, can you give me the zombie part so I can have it please?

  • @dr_zephyr
    @dr_zephyr Před 19 dny

    the hipfire spread can be tuned so tightly in the semi auto mode you’re able to 2 shot out to about 20-25m since all the pellets are in such a tight spread

  • @legendofLINK445
    @legendofLINK445 Před 19 dny +1

    There’s a new underbarrel that improves hip fire and tac stance. I forgot what it’s called, but it’s right before the vertical grips.

  • @alext.7517
    @alext.7517 Před 20 dny +1

    Love the spas

  • @rock-steady-yeti
    @rock-steady-yeti Před 19 dny

    Ace, you might have covered this in another video, what is the S2F if you have the no tac sprint boots?

  • @lynch6425
    @lynch6425 Před 19 dny

    Thank you

  • @Vinseenit
    @Vinseenit Před 19 dny +2

    Why didn't you talk about the damage multipliers with this gun? If you look at the detailed stats, the upper torso and headshot damage is significantly higher than the rest of the body. If you want to get more consistent one shot kills, aim for upper chest instead of center mass like you would with most other shotguns.

  • @seanmccrindle1861
    @seanmccrindle1861 Před 19 dny +1

    I play HC mainly and it’s super solid!

  • @AliFOJ5
    @AliFOJ5 Před 20 dny +2

    I never thought I’ll meet the grandfather of hit markers. I did with this shotgun

  • @oscarfunez3806
    @oscarfunez3806 Před 19 dny +2

    Not going to lie, but dragons breathe in pump mode and feel more consistent in hitting the oneshot afterburn(Initial hit then dying by burning damage).
    Making the spread tight for hip and tac-stance definitely helps in close quarters to get the kill. Using semi basically makes it pointless to use as the burn damage will do literally nothing to help you.
    Since its a shotgun i just use it for close quarters and it feels more consistent with using the dragons breathe and keeping my spreads tight to ensure i hit my shots and let the DOT do the rest.

  • @krustybeans1160
    @krustybeans1160 Před 20 dny +2

    I hope they take this on-the-fly change mechanic and apply it to the BAL AMP if it ever gets one, high fire rate (Inferno), slower fire rate then the base (Obsidian Steed)

    • @brziperiod
      @brziperiod Před 19 dny

      Blud just triggered so much PTSD lol

  • @toxicdragon323
    @toxicdragon323 Před 18 dny

    I see. That explains why I've seen a lot of people using this in hardcore. I can imagine how much of a headache it is to use this thing in core game modes.

  • @gamerguy425
    @gamerguy425 Před 17 dny +1

    if any warzone-only players want to unlock this YOU CAN USE THE JAK JAWBREAKER KIT and it will count towards the unlock challenges! It's also a ridiculous loophole to get the KV platinum if you've gotten it gold. I got like 4 longshots in one match of resurgence....

  • @larrywonnacott2628
    @larrywonnacott2628 Před 19 dny

    Great Vid 👍 Mahalo

  • @Nolzii
    @Nolzii Před 13 dny

    ace, go do a wall test with bolo shells in simi auto it re swaps back to buckshot. its not a stated effect but i noticed it in matches when i shot a wall, in pump it shows 2 impacts (the bolo) in simi-auto it goes back to the pellets

  • @sIayerz
    @sIayerz Před 19 dny +2

    Im glad they didnt add another OP one shot weapon tbh. It might need a slight buff though.

  • @DJAK792
    @DJAK792 Před 20 dny +1

    I haven’t used this thing yet but it’s already my favorite gun since 2018

    • @sunderwire
      @sunderwire Před 19 dny

      I was hyped for this gun to come out but its super disappointing with how bad it is :/

  • @markpangilinan7770
    @markpangilinan7770 Před 20 dny +3

    There are mixed feelings when it comes to the new Reclaimer 18 shotgun. It does have a decent one hit kill range up to 16.5 meters but sometimes at point blank range, it doesn’t perform too well and it’s hit marker after hit marker. In my opinion, it’s just a fan favorite shotgun that people will enjoy every now and then, which will remember from previous CODs.

  • @zffrailgun1630
    @zffrailgun1630 Před 20 dny +2

    Fyi Ace, the no stock attachment looks much worse in the firing range than it does in-game (somehow). I still wouldn't use it because it covers a good chunk of your screen, but it's nowhere near as bad as what the firing range shows.

  • @jeremiahtaylor1817
    @jeremiahtaylor1817 Před 20 dny +2

    They should up the pellet count to 9 at least if they don’t buff the damage

  • @CaptainMunner
    @CaptainMunner Před 20 dny +1

    So, I can snipe with this in HC. Great!

  • @charlesgreene3413
    @charlesgreene3413 Před 19 dny

    What is the camo he is using for the tac stance build?

  • @alfredohenry1286
    @alfredohenry1286 Před 19 dny

    It definitely could use a damage buff, feels way too inconsistent wether in semi auto mode or pump action. But idk if they’ll buff it

  • @jamesandrews484
    @jamesandrews484 Před 19 dny

    what is the "add" part in reload add time?

  • @kingcrimson9171
    @kingcrimson9171 Před 20 dny +1

    they gave it the same bug from the 680 where the capacity = pellets fired lmao

  • @AylanAlmuhairi
    @AylanAlmuhairi Před 19 dny

    bolo shots for me turn to normal buck shots is the a glitch?

  • @coryandrum
    @coryandrum Před 20 dny

    i was so confused about that semi, kept getting killed by it cause they had the second shot fast and I wasn't close enoughf

  • @CrazedKen
    @CrazedKen Před 16 dny +1

    Whats the ttk for each? Pump/semi

    • @amei_G80_BmwM3
      @amei_G80_BmwM3 Před 12 dny

      Just use the pump mode it’s better that way

  • @milkj.
    @milkj. Před 20 dny +2

    don't worry everyone i know it's inconsistent now but don't worry they'll give it a buff when they reveal the Terminator™️ Sarah Connor Bundle (for only 4200 COD points), i'm pretty sure it will be just coincidental though.

  • @ohnobro3770
    @ohnobro3770 Před 19 dny +1

    It’s a sniper shotgun if you use it like that and shoot upper chest it one shots like crazy. Then you hipfire point blank die leave the match and close the game.

  • @leviyoung4548
    @leviyoung4548 Před 19 dny

    Bolo shells in semi auto don't work, it turns into buck in semi, not sure if that's intentional or a bug

  • @befayedocrimes4751
    @befayedocrimes4751 Před 20 dny +1

    What the hell is the point of Bolo shells? It'd be one thing if they were just bad but I don't even understand the intention behind them

  • @SeriousApache
    @SeriousApache Před 17 dny +1

    Let's just talk about slugs: yes, they technically has worse one shot kill potential then default ammo, but what i noticed, default ammo is very unreliable with one-shot kill.
    Slugs are just very consistent, you get one shot kill without any RNG, and then 2 shot kill at any range.

  • @TheNikoBellicGaming
    @TheNikoBellicGaming Před 20 dny

    likely have two shots because for the akimbo aftermarket.
    What SHG should just make the Half Life 2 shotgun Twinbarrel aftermarket part called JAK Messa which would allow the operator to switch between Single and Double shot with a flip of the switch

  • @gcw2830
    @gcw2830 Před 19 dny

    Hello, hardcore mode? I'm seeing this thing dominate in hardcore. What are the stats for hardcore.

    • @tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825
      @tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825 Před 11 dny

      It sucked in hard core mode for me until I found someone build for it and it was good. Plus this is a ADS weapon.

  • @Jaryn_Bibb
    @Jaryn_Bibb Před 20 dny +3

    I remember when the Center Mass Grip Tape had an absurd sprint to fire reduction to the point where if combined with the right attachments, it has a 1ms sprint to fire time. But SHG fixed this within a few hours after it being out.

  • @jimbobsclayworld2439
    @jimbobsclayworld2439 Před 18 dny

    I tried bolo shells in the gunsmith, and was able to 2 shot in tac stance 25+ metres away in semi auto. Have they buffed the bolo shells in semi auto or is this a bug? (Edit: training dummies and private bot matches don’t match up…)

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce  Před 18 dny

      Firing Range dummies are super bugged when it comes to Shotguns and they don't reflect performance vs actual players at all.

    • @jimbobsclayworld2439
      @jimbobsclayworld2439 Před 18 dny

      @@TheXclusiveAce Shame really, it would of made semi auto worth using…

  • @leonsk1787
    @leonsk1787 Před 19 dny +2

    Why do cod devs hate shotguns? They have no issue with ohk snipers at any range yet fear a shotgun having a constant ohk within shotgun ranges. They really need to buff this gun, let shotguns be good again, and not outclassed by snipers in close quarters.

  • @destonshaber3744
    @destonshaber3744 Před 20 dny +1

    This thing feels more inconsistent than the Lockwood 680 does, and that's with all of the attachments that boosts it's range and its pellet spread

  • @BetaBreaking
    @BetaBreaking Před 19 dny

    I feel its inconsistency has to be due to the duel firing modes and the damage values being bugged right? On paper the pump mode should be good but in practice it might as well be 50/50 if you're going to kill an enemy.
    They've got to rework the entire semi-auto mode as its practically useless. Same for the different ammo types, all of them suck in general. This gun in just needs a rework or to fix whatever bugs that are messing with its consistency.
    I begrudgingly got Interstellar and One Trick for it but it wasn't fun. I'm now dreading the grind for Obsidian :(

  • @Seeker9904
    @Seeker9904 Před 19 dny

    Never thought I'd have to say this, but this shotgun is in dire need for a buff

  • @raikoh05
    @raikoh05 Před 20 dny

    they have made a few different spas12s in cod (mw2, blops1, etc) so I dont get the issue.

  • @Lord--Farquaad
    @Lord--Farquaad Před 19 dny +1

    This is one of the weirdest, most frustrating guns I think I've ever used. It's literally a guessing game if you can get a OSK or just a hitmarker. You can one tap someone 15 meters away, turn a corner and get a hitmarker from point blank range. Never touching this again unless they change/fix it.

  • @Ghillie_Beast_yt
    @Ghillie_Beast_yt Před 18 dny +1

    Apparently they are adding a conversion kit that lets you dual weald it

    • @MrJflomario
      @MrJflomario Před 13 dny

      That reload is gonna take forever 😅

    • @tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825
      @tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825 Před 11 dny +1

      ​@@MrJflomariothe reload is atrocious and fast mag sucks. Back in the day sleight of hand was great

    • @MrJflomario
      @MrJflomario Před 11 dny

      @@tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825 It needed a weakness anyways.
      When they inevitably nerf it then maybe they'll buff the reload.

  • @knvb10
    @knvb10 Před 20 dny +1

    That red camo looks so cartoonish, lego-like.

  • @Cookies-uw1wp
    @Cookies-uw1wp Před 20 dny

    honestly it looks and feels like a reskinned lockwood 680… they didnt give the spas the same treatment as the kar on release

  • @spooks4771
    @spooks4771 Před 19 dny

    In Hardcore this gun is absolutely freakin wild. I get insane one shot kills down the entire lane while hip firing on shipment. Legitimately, it will kill people with one shot, in semi, on the other side of shipmen while hip firing. Absolutely insane. I dropped a 70 kill game on domination and I NEVER do that good.

  • @rainmouse2
    @rainmouse2 Před 19 dny

    I don't use shotguns much, are there any worth running in this game?

  • @simonkammeyer4334
    @simonkammeyer4334 Před 19 dny

    So which is better? 680 or spas? I cant tell.

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce  Před 19 dny +2

      The 680 is much more consistent but the spas has much better one shot kill potential with a perfect shot.

    • @simonkammeyer4334
      @simonkammeyer4334 Před 18 dny

      @@TheXclusiveAce thanks ACE!

  • @Chorongy-
    @Chorongy- Před 19 dny

    The semi auto fire rate just needs a nice buff

  • @elnumbrotres
    @elnumbrotres Před 20 dny +1

    When can we get hardcore demolition?!

    • @RobertoHernandez-ce2fv
      @RobertoHernandez-ce2fv Před 20 dny

      Finally someone asking good questions! Demolition is has been my fav game mode since OG MW3.

  • @famalam943
    @famalam943 Před 19 dny +2

    It feels incredibly inconsistent. Sometimes I’ve needed 4 shots to kill at ranges that could easily be 1HK. It’s pretty terrible.

  • @25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat
    @25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat Před 20 dny +6

    I agree super inconsistent. Semi auto is a monster in hardcore though

    • @meanmrmustard270
      @meanmrmustard270 Před 20 dny +2

      I was going to say...in hardcore semi-auto had me get a new PR with those one shot kills

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny

      hardcore lol, try using it in normal ffa

    • @25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat
      @25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat Před 20 dny +1

      @@Calma123_ I'm running just a sledgehammer in ffa and bringing down the house

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny

      @@25_Cats_in_a_Trenchcoat yh a bot lobby in das haus

    • @meanmrmustard270
      @meanmrmustard270 Před 19 dny

      @@Calma123_ nah

  • @angellburgos9591
    @angellburgos9591 Před 20 dny +1

    Pump Action is good but when I gonna see a great slug shotgun build or a new shotgun that really kills hard in 20 to 30 meters 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @robest1331
    @robest1331 Před 19 dny

    Range on this shotgun is crazy on hardcore

  • @Uladzya
    @Uladzya Před 20 dny +1

    I always hate the fact in CoD series shotguns depends so heavily on the random. That's just frustrating and not fun at all. On high-fire-rate shotguns this isn't a serious problem, but pump-action or just shotguns with slow RoF because of this become a whole dissappointment. Just make for them fixed pellet spread at least when you aim down sight and everything will be fine.

  • @SquashyButton
    @SquashyButton Před 19 dny

    From my experience, this shotgun is best used in tac stance while in pump action, makes it feel pretty decent.

  • @odststalker5117
    @odststalker5117 Před 20 dny +2

    what even is the point of bolo shells? They only make every shotgun worse

  • @jeremybrown9611
    @jeremybrown9611 Před 20 dny

    It's inconsistent so I see a buff coming. Also CW SPAS was butta

  • @Kermit1970
    @Kermit1970 Před 11 dny

    I'd say the crown breaker choke is arguably the better choke. It's almost as good as the Bryson, but has no downsides

  • @dmann5938
    @dmann5938 Před 20 dny +3

    It is very inconsistent when I’m using it tbh

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny

      its garbage, shg are just scared for the cry babies that it becomes "op"

  • @makatron
    @makatron Před 20 dny

    Still can't understand what has ads anything to do with pellet spread.

  • @zereftribbiani8130
    @zereftribbiani8130 Před 16 dny

    I don't suggest the discouraged barrel at all. I tried shooting the closest dummy at the same spot in the training range 10 times each with and without the barrel. I got a 1 shot kill 9 times without the barrel and a 1 shot kill only once with the barrel. I don't know why that's the case but no barrel is far far more consistent
    Edit: putting the center mass grip also did the same thing, maybe the gun just automatically gets more inconsistent if you add any attachments at all

    • @TheXclusiveAce
      @TheXclusiveAce  Před 16 dny +1

      The firing range dummies are completely bugged when it comes to shotguns so they can’t be used to determine strength of builds unfortunately. All of my testing is done on actual characters

    • @zereftribbiani8130
      @zereftribbiani8130 Před 16 dny

      @@TheXclusiveAce damn alright, thanks for the reply

  • @bradenmchenry995
    @bradenmchenry995 Před 20 dny +1

    The 150hp makes balancing 1 shot kill weapons impossible

  • @jimbozini100
    @jimbozini100 Před 19 dny +2

    Idk why they're so scared of making slugs not ass considering the kar98 and other one shot weapons.

  • @DoctorSoupp
    @DoctorSoupp Před 20 dny +21

    At least they broke the cycle of "introducing a new weapon and having it be borderline broken for a month."

    • @Pryingit
      @Pryingit Před 20 dny +11

      Ya instead they introduced a new weapon that's borderline unusable

    • @Texarmageddon
      @Texarmageddon Před 19 dny +1

      They broke that with the taq evolvere

    • @sunderwire
      @sunderwire Před 19 dny +1

      Bal 27 was kinda bad too

  • @imwiththescienceteam7192

    Marksman rifle breakdown for Xdefiant? great vid btw

  • @laurenceyang2436
    @laurenceyang2436 Před 19 dny

    Since the crown breaker choke was nerfed, what choke should I use on all other shotguns? @TheXclusiveAce

  • @ralts6464
    @ralts6464 Před 20 dny

    The slug is actually useable lol

  • @Chrisspycross
    @Chrisspycross Před 18 dny

    The Haymaker with Aftermarket kit was one of the few fun guns out there. Until it got nerfed to the ground. Now, no shotgun stand a chance against other weapons.
    Anyway I still have an epic Riveter setup that no one talks about, literally 2 shot almost any range, (0)zero!!! spread, yet still not as fun as melt ppl with the Haymaker 😎🤙

  • @Indacouchh
    @Indacouchh Před 19 dny +1

    This thing is so inconsistent. There are times where it feels nasty as hell, and then times where I basically shot them point blank to the chest in pump action and it gets a hit marker. To me there’s no reason to use it over the Lockwood other than nostalgia

  • @GeneralBogRoll
    @GeneralBogRoll Před 20 dny

    I actually really like this shotgun in hardcore in semi auto mode

    • @Calma123_
      @Calma123_ Před 20 dny

      try using it in ffa, guaranteed you wont touch it again

  • @TheDJGlucose
    @TheDJGlucose Před 19 dny

    Why does this shotty go from 88 pump action damage to semi auto 14.999 at least.

  • @damascusbruen1033
    @damascusbruen1033 Před 20 dny +1

    JOSEFINA FLASHBACKS

  • @ninjadude183
    @ninjadude183 Před 5 dny +1

    It's a shame they are doing diservice to one of the most iconic shotguns of all time. Jurassic Park, Half-Life, even MW2 (2009) gave this gun a beast of a track record.

  • @player_iii
    @player_iii Před 19 dny

    Personally I've found this gun is much better when I put a reflex sight on it. The power of the gun comes from high risk high reward at medium range, so attachments that make it easier to use feel like they help more than attachments that strictly improve its stats. Using a barrel is mandatory though.

  • @Delta31705
    @Delta31705 Před 19 dny

    I think it’s funny that aiming magically reduces the spread.

  • @NeightrixPrime
    @NeightrixPrime Před 19 dny +2

    I'll call it the AN-94 of shotguns. If you're on, it's arguably the best gun. If you're slightly off, it's absolutely terrible.

  • @waifumeilingzhou6430
    @waifumeilingzhou6430 Před 18 dny

    I find this shotgun to be extremely frustrating there are times where I can get a one shot kill from over 14m and other times I could be very close up to my opponent and it will take three shots to kill them not to mention it's extremely common to get hit markers with this thing in hardcore mode 😑.