A Mother's Warning on Assisted Dying After Son's Death in Switzerland
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 15. 05. 2024
- The mother of a man who took his own life at a clinic in Switzerland, is warning others about the dangers associated with assisted dying. Alister Hamilton told his family that he was going on holiday to Paris, when in fact he was traveling to a Swiss clinic to die. The 47 year old did not have a terminal illness, but he suffered with low moods and stomach problems. His mother, Judith, reported him missing when he didn't come home before discovering the awful truth.
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I am in a wheel chair with MS I will die from it. I have spoken and signed the papers in NZ you have to have two Doctors to agreeâŠ. Why would I want to live when I can do nothing feel nothing and lay in a day bed all day. No thank you I want to die⊠all my family know, my son took a while but is on board now. I will be dying when I no longer use my hands and can not do anything I hope it will not be for a couple of yearsâŠâŠ itâs my right to end it when I can not live my life with dignityâŠ
Sorry Mum but he organised it all. Take it from some one who knows aboutđą depression he made his choice as how I would do it I love my family⊠but I have made my choiceâŠ
@lindaclifton2460. Hi there Linda, I fully agree and support your decision. I am also facing the same , although not MS (mine being a rare form of cancer diagnosed three years ago) I didnât wish to undergo surgery and have just come to terms with the fact that Iâll just take each day as it comes. I also made enquires with the organisation and my doctor (and family) are fully aware of the choice I have made and will support me. To date I have not signed any paper work. Sending wishes your way. đ€đłđż
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It was not at all the same situation.
I totally appreciate and respect your decision. We will put our pets to sleep when they are seriously poorly to relieve their pain so why canât we have the choice in our own countries for our own lives.
â@@shannoncole6415 How long should I wait for God to heal me ?
I am working in Switzerland. Without a serious illness and diagnostic you can't get assisted suicide in Switzerland. There must be a lot he hasn't told his family.
Is Depression counted as serious illness?
I know that J.L. Godard had an assisted suicide without having been terminally ill.
@@kathrin5721 it is possible to get assisted suicide if you are suffering from depression but it is very complicated. Your psychiatrist has to confirm that there are no more options of treatment, that you are unbearable suffering and your wish to die is NOT a symptom of your depression. It is very rare for a depressed person to be granted assisted suicide in Switzerland.
So if I'm healthy but just don't want live anymore, I won't be granted this ? So disappointing, I thought is for everyone older than 18 years old
@@lemaxx2638 no in Switzerland it would not be possible. Perhaps in Belgium it would. As I know in Belgium not only assisted suicide but even euthanasia is a constitutional right - also for patients with depression or dementia and even for children.
This is not the first case, a lot slip through the Swedish system
I think he was in deep emotional pain. He sounds like a lovely man. Ending your life isn't an easy thing. Sad but I hope he's at peace now.
That is just an assumption. He was a lovely man who had a loving family. Regardless of what people may think of them, he was very loved and they are affected by him going missing and finding out he was dead. They didn't have a chance to say goodbye before he was cremated. In fact they don't know the ashes they cremated are his. How can that be peaceful? I tend to think that if he was wanting to spare them pain, then he obviously wasn't thinking rationally because he would have left his family information to find him.
I was an extreme deep despair in the 70s with a cute chronic panic and anxiety and severe depression suicidal also I worked through it but back then they helped you work through it and gave you medicine to take while you were working through it and I thank God he gave me my life back
That's why I know it can be worked through
I'm so very sorry for your loss
@@Granny53 What a powerful story you have. It's so important people hear stories like yours. Hope is the most powerful medicine. If a person doesn't have it themselves, its so important we carry it for them until they can find it for themselves. It doesn't mean we minimise their pain or minimise how difficult it is to live with that suffering. Its horrible and painful and sometimes people need to lean on us to get through it. I am happy to do that for people because others did it for me and I am still here. Sometimes I still have my moments however its nothing like it was. There really is help out there. Sometimes the hardest part is asking for it.
I've known three close people who took their own lives here in America.
I can definitely relate to them.
You "healthy" people have no clue just how awful mental suffering really is, and there really isn't help globally as far as I'm concerned.
I agree. Her saying donât talk like that to her son. He did not know how to tell her he was so distressed
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
@@Sam___Smith we are also not infallible and satan is powerful.
â@@Sam___Smith AMEN and AMEN đđ»âïžâ„ïž
@@arnicepernice8656 To whoever overcomes I will give him a crown of life
-Jesus
He talked but nobody listened and some people can still eat when they are deeply depressed
the mention of eating well was more about the stomach issues and his mysterious weight loss...
@@akpokemon this isn't directed at you as I know you're simply pointing out the context of what she said but I have many issues with digestion and pain due to crohn's disease and severe endometriosis but just so others know, you can be in severe pain and experience debilitating stomach issues and still eat. Especially someone who is depressed and lonely and fighting a daily battle, sometimes food is a form of escape. It isn't uncommon for those who are struggling to even become emotional eaters and binge eat, even if it causes them physical pain
don't judge, as a parent you always want to believe your kids are doing ok...
Stop BLAMING Switzerland the man was dead a long time ago!!!
5:54 Mother says "And we had every hope that eventually the "problem" would be solved and his life would pick up again"
Clearly the family had no idea what depression is, calling it a "low mood" is sooo far from the reality of it, they were ignoring his illness. This likely made him feel alone and unsupported.
I would agree. A massive disconnect going on here
I agree as well. Mental illness and depression are so misunderstood by people other than the person who is suffering. He believed his life on earth was unbearable and he was going somewhere that there would be peace and no more suffering. Someone dropped the ball here and didnât get him the help he needed
The point is depression is a "state of mind" which can change...and mental health can make u do things u wouldn't normally hence why it's wrong...he may have changed his mind ffs
@@tashaax1993xanimalloverx he wouldn't have ended his life after 6 weeks of depression. This was likely a decades long issue. As it is for most people. He had the right to end that. If a person with depression is depressed for 75% of their life, its a valid choice to give up that 25% of normalcy to end the 75% of pain.
â@@white_clover767How do you know this? How are you rationalising these bold statements? Are you speaking from experience or not? Either way you are in no position to judge if a particular depressed person's life is worth living. You don't know what was going on in this man's mind, none of us do. My guess is that he had more than depression, as his actions were extreme (and selfish), but sadly he did not get the psychological, psychiatric help that he needed. Shame that there is still a huge stigma with mental illness. No mother wants to see their child sectioned but it would have saved his life and his treatment would have been reviewed.
As a mother who has lost a son to suicide myself, I think that there are potential benefits to this way of ending one's life. Almost all suicide methods are violent, traumatic ways to go, leaving the family with a harrowing ordeal regarding identification. One of the biggest questions that haunts me is "Did he suffer before he died?". Another thing that hurts me every day is that my boy had to die alone. Done in the right way, euthanasia could alleviate all of these issues, and whilst the family would still have to come to terms with a terrible loss, the traumatic element of the bereavement would be greatly reduced. With the benefit of hindsight, and knowing the complexities of suicide grief , I would suggest that this way would be the lesser of two very sad and awful options.
Sorry for your loss and thanks for your informed reasoned and level response.
We should be able to say if we want to end our lives . No one absolutely no one has the right to tell some one else how much they have to endure. My son has been suicidal I have said to him that it is his choice in the end. Please donât do it in a messy way where you may suffer further. I have told him if it ever got to that point it would be better to plan it via an assisted death organisation. Obviously my hope and prayers would be this process where he cd be open would provide a window of opportunity of support to avoid ending life. I am so very sorry that you went through the loss of your son but I so agree with your comments sadly borne from the wisdom that comes from experience
I am very sorry. And I agree with you as when we love someone we don't want them to suffer and need, as difficult it is, to respect their choices or lack of choices, sometimes.
I agree. I almost think that those opposing assisted dying are advocating for painful, lonely deaths of people that have no hope. It is better to die with dignity than in secret and in pain and leaving a scene that is shocking and traumatic to those who find it.
@@whitneyanders5945well said. I agree with you 100%.
People deserve MERCY.
God gives U Mercy
Amen đ
This is ridiculous and because he probably knew how the family would react - he kept them in the dark. That should be the point of this reporting: family ghosted due to lack of their acceptance and support.
I do understand that he was loved and now missed - but this scaremongering isnât helping anyone.
Would you be so tolerant if a close member of your family took this path? Somehow I doubt it.
I agree with you I really feel for the mum but as she said at least she didn't have to identify his body. It's sounds like he had already made his mind up. Unfortunately people will always commit suicide but at least this is the best option out of an impossible situation.
â@@christee9590 Suicides do happened regardless the clinics. Would you rather the men to hung himself in a forest? Or jump under a train? At least he died in dignity and didn't cause any traumatic experience to random people who'll be unfortunate to find his body.
Mental health is real problem and people do suffer.
Not that case. The family was left in the dark by the clinic. If the staff really think they helped his dignity they should have just come forward in email or call. His mom is criticizing the clinic protocols but pls understand the rest was her grieving since she wanted to see his body. Not the ashes two months later.
@@ssuwandi3240 The problem with inforing his family is, he has to agree to it. Although I agree that his death should have been reported straight to British authorities and they would inform the family.
This is so sad. When his mom said that he wasn't at this stage....he was. That's why he did this. It's heartbreaking when our loved one feels this destitute. We want them to hang on but they just can't.
I don't actually know but one would guess if the clinic thought it was more of a depression they wouldn't have let him go through it.
No one knows what he was going through except him and he made that decision with love for himself.
@@samjohns3227 You do not know that at all. He could have believed her deserved to die which is very common with depression. He may well have believed he was a burden and it was better for everyone if he just went away and died. Depression is also like that. People can have an overwhelming amount of shame for existing. So he likely died from that. Not in the romantic way you are suggesting it happened. Surely you can see that there is no way of knowing except for what seems like a very secretive situation involving a lot of profit for a company who didn't have the decency to let anyone know in Britain.
When someone does something extreme without communicating, there's a reason they stopped communicating. Sorry for your loss, but this was what he wanted.
There's never a good reason for suicide....jesus is the hope for the hopeless
There are often good reasons. You lack empathy and don't seem to realise that not many people in the UK believe in gods anymore. The crux of this debate is each to their own, his life, his choice, so wind it back in.
@@BeaIEngio triggered by jesus đ
@@mariamoments478Jesus wonât pay the rent or ease your unbearable suffering when you have a terminal illness.
@@gelbsucht947 I'm sorry it can be a horrible pain to bare....suffering is inevitable in life and can be terrible cross to carry when you feel alone.
The mom seems to be making this about her - like she's the victim. He had apparently been suffering for years. He was the victim. He wanted to end his suffering. The problem isnt that the service is being offered. The problem is society doesnt prioritize mental health care & mental illness like depression is stigmatized.
She is a victim as well.
This poor man should not be vilified. His mother is just thinking of herself. He has every right to take his own life. I understand his reasons and hope that should the time come, I will be able to take my own life. He didnât tell his family because he knew he would face opposition. How does his mother know what her son was feeling inside.
The man just thinking about himself also. He decided that his suffering was more important than his mother's and family.
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
â@shomshomni2314 it's not a freaking competition of who is suffering the most, it's about a human being"s right to die with dignity. No one living in excruciating pain should be forced to live that way just to please their family.
@@barbarajimenez6312 It's still a very selfish thing to do. His family were not suffering before but now they are. He caused that. I often hear stories of the other family member committing suicide as a result.
Many mothers are clueless about how their sons are lonely and depressed.
Yeah that's right.
I don't think the family had any idea of his emotional and mental pain.
Some know It and don't care.
Those closest to us in general, are sometimes less likely to immediately notice anything wrong. Even if we're exhibiting all the signs under the sun. Sometimes they're more likely to react with frustration, or dismiss the signs as "a phase".
Most. They are useless
The mother's narrative seems to deliberately omit key details about her son's diagnosis and mental state. It's misleading to focus solely on the cost and ignore Switzerland's stringent requirements for assisted suicide, which includes a thorough assessment by multiple doctors and a confirmed terminal illness. His visible decline and repeated mentions of suicide suggest a depth of suffering that's being downplayed. It's important to respect his autonomy and decision, even if it's difficult to understand, especially as Swiss law allows for assisted suicide in cases of unbearable suffering, whether physical or psychological...
Itâs very sad but there are none so blind as those who will not see. My ex husband took his own life and I was the only person who wasnât shocked.
@@Mili-bo6vu I agree with you. I'm so sorry for your loss.
his life, he decided to commit suicide. sad but this doesn't change my mind on assisted death.
Same
This was and is evil.
@@maryeconomou6573
Opposing compassion is genuine evil.
Evil.
@@romycerratti3716 Anyone who opposes end of life choice is evil.
When a person wants to take their life, itâs to end his suffering as the suffering is too severe to endure. The suffering isnât low mood, itâs a feeling of utter terror, and a sense of failure because the person feels that they must control it and make it stop, but they canât stop it. The person may have been told its mind over matter so they believe their character is weak and they feel vulnerable because they canât stop the feeling or terror, the terror is like an adrenaline rush to run,run, run, anywhere to escape but they know they canât escape as it stems from themselves. Even little things, trivial things can trigger the terror, because itâs depression. Weight loss is usually caused by continuous diarrhoea as the emotions cause that upset. Itâs a horrible condition, so horrific that to stop feeling that way as itâs hellish, the person decides to submit to death.
Very good description of depression â„
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
@@Sam___Smith of course we are not promised a perfect life, as this world is not Heaven!
He was 47 and it was his choice. Until you've lived with pain, you can not tell how it affects people. It was better that he went this way and not by violent methods. Most people when they are dying, wait until the family have left the room, then they just slip away. So sorry the family are having to go through this heartbreak and I hope they come to some kind of peace.
My dad died like that. Was holding on whilst we were in the room. We told him it was ok to let go and left the room and when we came back he was gone.
Been their worse depression thank God for helping me get help
A violent death wasn't inevitable in his case. People who are suicidal do change their minds and often survivors of suicide attempts are relieved it didn't work. His living situation could have changed and he could have fallen in love. While people seem to be supportive of his choice to end it all by getting help in Switzerland, they need to remember that there is suicide contagion that can happen so mental health services and public health put a lot of effort into making sure family and friends get a lot of support because it can lead to more deaths. Nobody lives completely alone. Our life and death affect other people. So while this may have been a "tidier" option, his family are traumatised. The adults can describe it and support each other. Maybe even reach out for help however does he have nephews, nieces, his pupils? His work colleagues. His death would have affected others. People need to recognise the choices we make can ruin someone else's life or our life can contribute to others enjoyment of life. His poor family. At least they are being supported.
This mother obviously had no real understanding of her son. He chose to die alone and didn't want any of his family with him. The mother might well have been rather controlling and interfering.
That's a bit harsh. It is not the mother's fault that the son did not speak out. Don't blame anyone for the sin of another. You have clearly not been a mother. It is devastating and absolutely spiteful to leave people in hurting agony and pain because of your selfishness because you did or have God the Almighty in your life. You let the devil prevail. Instead we choose tablets, alcohol, drugs and anti depressants to fix us. Dr's are always prescribing meds that have side effects and dire consequences. God is love. Seek God First in everything.
Or maybe he did not want to hurt her in life.
It sounds like you are projecting.
The key to this is that it was his choice. None of us know how bad he felt. Better this way than having to find a way to do it himself.
maybe he had a diagnosis and didnât tell his family weight loss and stomach issues maybe he knew what was wrong he was trying to spare his family of the grief but this is such a shame, he seemed depressed thatâs different to low mood more people education on depression â€
Would been pick up in autopsy
He caused them suffering and grief by going missing and not telling them where he was. That was incredibly self focused. In saying that he was mentally unwell obviously and most likely could only think that way which is why they should never have done it.
@@mummylilbear6088was there one performed?
My uncle went from shoveling snow in December to being unable to go to the washroom on his own within 3 months. He didn't want to be a drain on his daughter's lives that, had moved home to take care of him. He had his favourite key lime pie and went to sleep in his own bed and that was it. He chose assisted because the alternative was dying in a hospital pumped full of narcotics surrounded by strangers and continuing to be a drain on his daughters. He didn't want their memories of him to be of his remaining days suffering in some hospice.
The feeling at the funeral, that he had all planned, wasn't the usual sadness because he was the one who had decided.
Seeing people dying with dementia and no longer having the ability to choose to die with any shred of dignity is heartbreaking. Their final days are monetized.
Do you not have palliative care where people can die at home in your country?
@@lulunz6809 Yes and no. depends on your living situation. Some pain will not always be relieved with drugs.
@@organicwest Well we can't guarantee that euthanasia is painless for the person either. It does appear to be painless however. There are so many options when it comes to anxiety relief and pain relief. Pain isn't a given when it comes to dying naturally from illness or age. I have seen many deaths now. Some of those conditions were considered the most painful to experience. One person in particular refused any opiates up until the time that he had hours left and even then he wasn't in pain. He was scared so I reassured him. It isn't all love and light when someone is imminently dying however neither is childbirth. The perception of pain by onlookers is what needs to be educated more.
@@lulunz6809 When my aunt is telling me that she is in pain, it is not my lack of perception of pain. My uncle just fell asleep. I do not need to be educated about pain.
@@organicwest Yes that is good she can tell you. Were you able to give her something for that? I am so pleased you were able to be there for her. I can 100% say that some people cannot cope with knowing their loved one is dying and seeing the process happening. Its why its so important we teach people about the final stages of dying and the ways they can help their loved one including in home pain medications which can be given by patches, slow release pump, subcutaneous injections which are easy to give and how to wet their mouths. Hospice will have nurses and support people pop in especially for giving medication. I have seen one side of my family absolutely not cope with seeing my uncle dying. He was in no pain but they struggled because they thought he was and thought he would be embarrassed to see himself like that. They also got frustrated at how long it took. I ended up taking over supporting him because they wanted to go back to work etc. What he needed was their reassurance and love. He did tell me he was scared. So I reassured him and we did give him something to help him relax. He wasn't in any pain. I felt so sad that the people he loved the most, couldn't be there. So I was. I am sure people choose euthanasia because they are scared of dying in pain or without dignity. It doesn't have to be that way at all. They are scared because there hasn't been good education about dying and the process. They also don't want to be an inconvenience. That is horrendous that people are ending their lives prematurely when they don't have to.
The loved ones left behind of course will have questions⊠however, his choice MUST be respected. No one but Alistair can know⊠so STOP interfering with taking away other peoples options.
Maybe if he felt more comfortable around them he could have expressed his feelings easier and they could have joined him for his final journey. Itâs selfish to expect loved ones to keep living when they are in pain and ready to go.
And choices
That is selfish. Now his loved ones sit with the pain and loss.
whats just as tragic is how clueless the whole family is
He probably couldn't get through to his GP surgery or get any mental health support. That's where we're at in the UK now. He was suffering with no chance of meaningful support & treatment other than "text SHOUT or call the Samaritans" neither of which you can get through to or who can offer the real help he needed. It's shameful. Deepest sympathy for him & his loved ones.
This is extremely weird. I live in Switzerland and I know the system. One can not be accepted for a médicalised scheduled suicide just like that. There is more to the story but it remains private..
Exactly!!!
" lets hope he was happy" of course he wasn't or he wouldn't have gone down that route.
I am sorry for your loss. He was however old enough to make his own decision . I believe Assisted dying is up to the individual.
đŻ They did not walk in his shoes. Nor did he need the permission of his family, however saddened they may be. He gave plenty of clues as to his reasons.
@@wintercame Having low mood, living at home with his parents, being physically unwell and being in the process of finding the cause. Not having a wife and family. He needed therapy not an assisted death. It sounded more like he felt so ashamed that he decided to go away and die alone. Depression alters your thinking. That was not a dignified death.
@@lulunz6809You are not walking in his shoes. You are walking in your shoes. Therapy does not always change what afflicts. Death does.
@@wintercame Its a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
@@lulunz6809That's just a trope. For him it was as long as his life went on. He put a period on it.
While I do understand the pain that his mother is experiencing, he probably did not want to cause pain for the family and took off as quietly as possible. Her own words express a story that shows that he wasnât okay, whether or not she wants to accept it or not. Itâs also obvious he couldnât or didnât feel like he could talk to her about his mental health tanking etc. idk if he was in counseling. So he might not have felt he had anyone. No wife no kids and then not able to talk to his family was probably lonely. And she speaks a lot of âwe as a family thinksâ and itâs not up to them.
Just because her perception of him was that he would get better, doesnât mean he would and doesnât mean thatâs how he felt. If he was really mentally ill, and really struggling with some mystery illness, and he wanted to die with dignity, I feel thatâs his right.
I know people think itâs selfish, but it isnt. We do not go off on a cancer patient who is terminal if they stop chemo and decides to die. We should look at this the same way. I do hope the family finds peace, but I feel that he did what he felt was necessary and best for him.
The family didnât really count his pain. He didnât feel heard.
I think its tempting to romanticize how he took his life. He had a history of mental health problems and was clearly ashamed of how his life had turned out so far. Is that a reason to help someone to end their life? Poor him, not having a wife and family or a home, so lets help him die?
@@lulunz6809 Having been involved with mental health issues, this society is blind. The family stated he felt âlowâ. To me, that statement describes a culture of âoh you will get betterâ. âBuck up.â âYouâll get through thisâ This is an attitude that does not help a person nor validate what he is feeling. Hence my statement, he didnât feel heard. We donât know what avenues he took to find help, only his familyâs viewpoint.
@@thelittlewitch253 Well I definitely didn't say that. I have lived experience and have worked with many many other survivors who also have lost loved ones to suicide and I can say that through my experience and their's that we all were grateful we survived. It did take time however it did happen. Many of us got support through mental health services and counselling etc. That was despite there not being a great understanding until more recent years. I think its important not to place blame on the family or the people who tried to help him. He did what he did and they couldn't stop him. I think its important not to romanticize what he did by justifying his choice. And suggesting he did it to save them pain is very wrong. He caused them so much pain because he didn't tell them where he was going. He was missing and that was very unfair. He obviously wasn't thinking clearly or he wouldn't have chosen that decision.
If a 47-year-old man is living as he was with nothing to look forward to, don't condemn him or the organization that helped him exit on his own terms. There seems to be a lot of hubris and judgement in this piece.
So two brains, two working legs, arms and eyes and ears and straight back were nothing? I once met a set up date without half of the above senses functioning, but he still came out. He worked as a comedian on stage.. He fell while ducking the basketball then went into coma but made a comeback.. He still looked as worthy as a human being. It's called Being Alive! This lad could visit Ukraine and see the real handicapped folks
@@ssuwandi3240 Please don't diminish Alister Hamilton's feelings. Telling a depressed person he's so much better off than someone with a prosthetic or terminal cancer is not going to change his mind or mood, but he will recognize that you, too, are not going to validate his feelings or offer any meaningful support.
U don't believe a sick man when he says he has nothing to look forward to. He took that thought seriously. He was vulnerable and clearly wasn't in his right mind....
@@Litigator-4-life Apparently he was also in a lot of pain. I've reached the stage of my life (60s) where my osteoarthritis continues to worsen, I cannot take medication for it due to their propensity to cause stomach ulcers, I also cannot take pain killers as I am extremely allergic. Seeing my quality of life reducing significantly, plus the extensive knowledge gleaned from decades of having worked in the health care sector (senior practitioner), is enough for me to know how I do NOT want my life to end. I want to go when I decide, with dignity, peace of mind. Not writhing in agony in a hospital bed or nursing home bed stewing in my own body fluids. No one deserves to tell/dictate to another how they should live, or end, their life.
Insulting for you to assume you know more about how this man was feeling than the man himself. He wanted to die and did it with dignity. You have no right to assume that he could just get over it and that he âwasnât in his right mindâ.
this is too bizarre. Switzerland does not agree to do that just like that. They would ask for a psychoanalysis for a good year before as well as prove of terminal illness. This did not happened how the family says. There is something missing there.
Sadly, true. But they are not at Liberty to disclose this information.
Yes there's something about this story that doesn't make sense.
Sorry but that's incorrect you do not have to have a terminal illness to end your life by euthanasia in Switzerland. Many ppl who suffered from depression go there to end their lives.
His choice. He would have suffered more if he'd suicided all alone. It sounds like he was suffering far more than his family were aware. Unfortunately many people will play down things when another is suffering. He was unexplainably loosing weight so also may have had something very seriously wrong too.
It is absolutely the individual's choice - people who don't experience the physical pain of depression just don't know the relentless dreariness of it and the idea that there's a chance of permanent relief, I can totally understand why some choose to go this route. Of course it's painful for the loved ones, but it would have been worse to come home from shopping and find him hanging in the hallway.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
Feel for her and her family but like she says about a railway track, he went out on his own terms in a dignified way, ofc I wish he had the help he obviously needed but I know how Iâd rather go out
He obviously wasn't in a sound mind and was vulnerable.....its not just one person that dies its now multiple people that have loved him have to suffer mental health problems as well.
@@mariamoments478 Give it a rest. You'd rather that person remain and suffer physically, psychologically and emotionally so that others can feel more comfortable.. speaks volumes.
His illness had not been diagnosed and he had been dealing with pain, etc with apparently no end in site.
Handsome dude. Best jawline ever. Sad he was so without any hope. Never know what others go through/suffer.
My mom had terrible stomach problems that plagued her for decades. They couldnât ever diagnose the issue but she lost 50 pounds and looked so frail. They said it was like Crohns or colitis but not exactly. I can sympathize with his pain. It really played on my motherâs emotional and mental well being. She finally just gave up the will to live because she couldnât barely eat without such pain.
Iâm so sorry this happened to this mother and her son.
Iâm sorry for your loss.
Colon cancer likely.
I'm really sorry for your loss firstly. Your poor mum!
Secondly I do understand this man. It's awful, but I understand how hopeless it can be. I'm currently going through a similar thing. I have been in misery for about 7 years. I'm a lady, who can't work, has to live with my family, and cannot get a diagnosis, or find anything to help. It's frustrating going to appointments, being told what it isn't, but not being able to find an answer as to what's causing your misery. It can be a very dark place, when you truly feel like there's no way out :(
Sincere thoughts and sympathy for your mom's journey. I pray you have peace as this is never easy â€
@@ssuwandi3240 "Colon cancer likely." Cancer, even the most indolent (non-aggressive) colon cancer, doesn't plague you for decades, so I'd have to disagree with you there.
So brave and admirable of you to talk about your tragic loss and experience.
It is a terrible tragedy for the family. On the other hand there should be an option of assisted dying in every country so people would not have to travel to Switzerland and pay for it. I live in Canada and I'm very grateful that option exists here. People who never experienced mental illness have no way of understanding what it does to a person. Some are lucky they can be helped with medication. Unfortunately the antidepressants don't work for everybody.
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
If God exists why it happens
He had every right to do what he did and he wasn't obligated to tell anyone. This doesn't need to be a "warning" to anyone. You shouldn't be headlining this like he was murdered.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
You go ahead and believe what you want but those beliefs don't to apply others.
If you believe this then don't go for health care, don't get treatment for terminal disease because clearly your disease has been given to you by God. Pass your life to God if you want while other people can make other choices.
You sound like God..rather the God that humans have created to use to judge othersâ@@joanrankin2827
My Heart aches for his mum but honestly i can also feel his need and pain he's at peace now bless him †đąâ€đą
This poor mumâŠ.unimaginable pain. I think that place, and others of that nature, should be shut down and appropriately penalisedâŠafter all, if a suicidal person asked me to knock them off and I obliged, I would go to jail. I fail to see the difference. Yet another disgusting lack of regard for mothersâŠ
Why so expensive and why so easy to take your own life
So now this woman has made it her business to make it harder for everyone else to obtain an assisted suicide! Her son was clearly of sound mind and made his own choice. His life had become unacceptable to him. Thatâs sad for her but he obviously had his reasons for not telling her of his intentions. Itâs a personal tragedy but why should other people be denied the facility he enjoyed?
I think he knew if he discussed it with his family his mother would certainly lay a huge guilt trip on him.
Actually if you're suicidal you're not in a sound mind. There's a difference in somebody who's terminally ill and facing a terrible death versus one that's quicker and cleaner and somebody who's depressed wanting to end their life. Psychologically if you're suicidal you are not of sound mind. Typically depression wants treated erases the suicidal impulses. And even the rare cases where it's intractable doesn't make it automatically sound thinking.
@@jessicaolson490 "Actually if you're suicidal you're not in a sound mind" Who's to say and on what grounds? The audacity on you people.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.poras. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this
Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is dr.poras.
In Switzerland you don't need to be terminal to have access to euthanasia. Depression or other chronic mental health conditions are also in the inclusion criteria. I've spend 10+ years in the swiss healthcare system so I know enough to say that this channel is not telling the whole truth about this case. Screenings to access these services are very ethical and thorough.
There's a reason why this guy didn't tell anything to his parents.
You never know how the pain will be so unbearable that it's your only exit option. Thank you Dignitas for assisting these people to pass with dignity
Shame on them. Mental illness can cause people to think irrationally. I know so many survivors who are so pleased their attempts didn't work and they went on to live good lives. Many furthered their education and got great jobs as well as had children. The recovery rate for mental health disorders is good. While it doesn't feel like it at the time, people recover.
So if he went there and said he didn't feel physically well and was sick of it, would that be a good enough reason to assist someone to die? If someone said they are embarrassed because they are 47 and weren't married and didn't have children, would that be enough of a reason? If someone said they were back home living with their parents and they felt disappointed and wanted to die, is that enough of a reason? Many of those things are disappointments in life however can be overcome. I fail to see how there was an ethical decision there.
Still think it should be allowed for those who choose it in the uk.
Yes indeed so too I feel of. Course albeit alas too.
Absolutely not! There is always a way out.
Not when it's terminal ,silly comment.
Definitely not, people would take their lives with something as little as a headache. Just as no one determined their time of birth, or the family they were born into, no one should end their life or be assisted to end it. Life is precious and problems are inevitable but temporary!
Of course not. There are always more worthy choices than playing God. It took 6 days to create humanity. Meaning that Life is never about a race with his siblings or anyone's made up belief opinion / standard. Period.
I'm sorry for the anguish that the family has gone through. However, I'm not sure they really understood the extent of his pain and suffering. People often do not share (especially with family) the degree of their suffering, preferring instead to protect them from the harsh realities of their condition. Bottom line is, no one could understand what he was going through and why he chose to end his life this way. As a Death Doula, I believe very strongly in a personâs right to choose when it is appropriate to end their life. For all those suffering from either physical or mental anguish, they should have the autonomy to make this deeply personal decision, and no one should have the right to stop them. Hoping one day that Medical Aid in Dying is available for all who wish to use it.
Thank you for what you do and the care and respect you give to those during their final journey.
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
Its a clean and dignified way to opt out. In my case, opt out of excruiating nerve pain. I don't want to involve anyone else in a traumatic way, be that a train driver, or my family finding me, trying to 'save' me. The world is over populated, I can't work, can't afford care.
Yes, the breakdown of our health care systems, followed by easily-acquired assistance in being "un alive" ... is ... interesting, to say the least. Canada
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
The mother cannot respect her son's wishes. She says he was not of a sound mind to do such a thing, which says it all.
This is why I think he didn't tell them about his plans
@@natnat8393 Yes, it really is a tragedy. But you can see his mother could never agree to it and would have tried to get him sectioned.
Yes because he was clearly mentally ill. We try to get mentally ill people help to recover, we don't write them off, give up on them. We try to get them help, we don't usually help them travel to a DEATH CLINIC and give them our blessings - not normal behaviour. Anyone normal, any mother or father, would try to stop a child of theirs going to a death 'suicide' clinic.
@christee9590 You clearly don't know anything about how people are treated who enter the mental health system.
To be sectioned is worse than a prison sentence and this mother would rather have seen that.
They are not places where "recovery" has any possibility.
Even after everything, she is still putting her needs first. Instead of being happy that he is at peace.
@@christee9590youâre lucky you donât see the truth about the mental health epidemic
Nope, my body my choice. This won't change my mind
Don't let your ego define you
@@flowerpowerocks3283 Huh?
@@flowerpowerocks3283donât let yours either. You are being used by your own projection
Your body is not your own, your life is not your own, it's on loan to you to see if you can be faithful over a small matter.
If you cannot be faithful over little, how can I set you over much. If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own.?-God
@@Sam___Smith Itâs your choice if you want to have a religious belief. Have some respect for others that donât necessarily have the same beliefs.
My condolences to Judith Hamilton and her family. Good for you to speak out about this subject. As someone who has suffered off and on from depression for 49 years, I know how hard it can be to go through dark episodes. But, in time, the depression lifts and I can function again. I can laugh and find things of interest until the next episode hits. The episodes of depression are farther apart now than when I was younger. I am physically ill now. I have learned to manage and pace myself. Just like in any profession, there are good and not so good therapists out there. I urge anyone to reach out and try to talking to a therapist or another therapist. Learn to become your own best friend. God has a plan for each of us and so hold on.
If he actually got emotional support and found jesus he would have got through his most difficult moments with an element of peace in amongst the suffering he had been enduring
Im sorry to tell u, but unfortunately, God does not have a plan or purpose for everyone. U may be lucky that your life turned out that way. But it's not like that for others no matter how much they believe in God. But there's also many who don't believe in God too
â@mariamoments478 Absolutely with God, all things are possible.
@@ruthbarnes9999 There are non-believers and believers. God has a plan for each one of us regardless of one's positon.
Thank you for sharing your common sense! I totally agree with you
THAT WAS JUST HEART BREAKING & SAD RIPâ€
THIS IS SO AUFEL, THIS SHOULD NOT BE IN A GOOD SOCIETY THERE IS ALLWAYS HOPE, WHY ?HORRIBLE DECISION
Sad but it was his choice, maybe they should have more like counselling see if there is anything they can do to make them want to live again first
He clearly was at that stage or he wouldn't had gone through it I know it's sad and heart breaking for his mum family but at least his now out of pain and I hope at peace who are we to judge at least he didn't step in front of a train and ruin more people's lives đ
Donât blame the people who are trying to make a depressed person see a reason to live for. Itâs very sad but understandable when people take a pessimistic view of life due to health challenges.
Itâs also sad for family members who feel powerless to help them.
I agree that some people who might want to end their lives from severe depression might not be in the best frame of mind to others but it makes sense to them.
I feel that with the worsening trend of depression and loneliness that is a problem that is here to stay. A 28 year old from Norway has been granted the right to end her life due to mental illness. Sad but for her, itâs obviously what she wants.
The main problem I see with this is that he just went missing and left his family guessing if heâd been in an accident or foul play had taken place. And perhaps that people have made money from this.
Ah just heard that theyâre not for profit.
What he did was cruel to his family and friends. The worry it would have caused would have been hideous. People seem to be romanticizing what happened in this case.
Poor guy he was single.I don't blame him for doing it, he did not see any point in continuing to live. I feel very sorry for his mother and family. Life is too bad and cruel for some.
I wonder how much of medical testing did he get to do before this- vitamin mineral deficiency- genetic testing for bio markers
My condolences to this family
This is sad but itll never change my mind on assisted suicide, i myself have discussed it many times with my family, with having so many chronic illnesses and being in constant pain on a daily basis, stop scaremongering, its not fair on the people that need that service
I think itâs good that they are telling people about this because it should never be allowed in this country unless people have a terminal illness.
@@jujutrini8412 what about chronic pain patients that are never going to get better?? Who are they wanting to live for, it's not fair that people have to wake up every day in agony
@@shennel7304 Your right ,its NOT fair on people that need the service these companies offer ,and Swiss law does allow this type of Assisted suicide .
However .....every case is individual
Im all for assisted suicide ,personally I hope its a choice I never have to make ,but there ARE concerns in this mans case . Quite honestly ,we are not given enough information here ,and the information given from the family, through no fault of their own ,is one sided. Perhaps he hid his true mental health issues from them. That wouldnt be uncommon . I dont believe either ,he was just feeling low. But I do believe ,that someone with severe mental health issues ,can reach a point where they CANT make a rational choice for themselves. We dont know if this poor man fell into that category. Im tempted to say I hope so ,but only to make this ....sadness ,better for him . Terminal illness and chronic pain are NOT the issues this guy faced . He may or may not have been seriously mentally ill.
The sheer torment of someone who wants to end their life ,though nothing terminal or in pain is wrong with them .Thats actually the question here ,but by reading the comments ,you really wouldnt think so
@@shennel7304 I think chronic debilitating pain should be included if there's literally no hope or way to cure it
Agree . Itâs other peoples deep seated fear of facing up to the fact sometimes suffering in life is not endurable for some people .. usually intractable progressive illness and or mental health conditions . Physically disabled people who are otherwise fit and well often donât get this ! it seems as they are not living with long term progressive medical conditions they think they are being attacked if euthanasia is legal. So they try to stop those who are suffering beyond what they can endure from having control and an exit plan . Just my personal opinion not formed lightly.
RIP young man đđ
So what? people shpuld have to stay alive and suffer to keep selfish people happy?
It's just not fun watching Darwin awards happening right in front of your eyes. Suicide is 100% darwinism in action.
My thoughts too
I don't think anyone can know what it's like for an individual apart from them. We all deal with things differently. I believe we should all have the choice as heartbreaking as it is for loved ones.
Thank you for sharing your view. I agree wholeheartedly. There is such a societal focus on keeping people alive at any cost - the individual really has no say in the matter. They should have.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
Unless you have walked in his shoes try and understand his bravery. Great respect for this young man his living nightmare is over â€
Let's not romanticise suicide. People shouldn't be judged for ending their suffering but they shouldn't be praised either -can we use more neutral less loaded language?
None of this was about bravery. It was rather a crying for help that nobody cared harder just don't tell it to mum. I always write this kind of thought since 7 yo or so and leave the note somewhere. My mum found one of these, said nothing but since that day she' becomes kinder. She knew my little secrets. When I was older I left the notes inside the temple or churches. Well am still here living thru the rhythm. It would have been good if he knew some techniques to try
Bravery? No darlin coward is the word quiting and giving up notan enough unfortunately
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â@@mariannehavisham8323Well put.
This is just the saddest story ever! Iâll never agree to assisted dying
Sorry you feel like that you must be healthyâŠ.đ©·âïž
â@@lindaclifton2460 We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
In Canada citizens are being encouraged to end their lives with the MAID program. Guilting seniors, homeless, mentally ill. This conversation is out of control in Canada. About 16K requests were made in 2022 and about 14K approved.
I feel for this family and feel it's important they're speaking up.
His Life His Choise
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
Yes absolutely. We didn't sit in his head to know
It was probably anxiety and stress that was making him lose weight and have pain in his stomach.I've been there..he REALLY needed counselling service and support not to end his life...and I know bc I've attempted it and am glad I survived..if I'd done this I'd be gone and I'm glad that I'm not... as hard as it can be emotionally to live
We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
It must have broke Alistairs heart when he said Goodbye to his Mum, knowing it was the last time.
I believe he chose to end his life to ensure that his family or friends would not attempt to dissuade him.
I would like to share this poem with you
THE END
Anguish, Sadness
Sorrow, Pain
Unable to live without you
Unable to face this World again
The heartache I feel
A burden too much to bare
No escape, No sanctuary
Alone filled with despair
Grief is overwhelming
I am drowning, unable to breathe
No one can help me
No one can salvage me from this grief
So often we do not choose the path
We surrender as we fall
When the lights go out
The darkness descends
We truly feel we had no choice at all
We are told by God to endure to the end. He is over life and death.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own, it's on loan.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much. If you are not faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
I can't imagine that Mother's pain.
ÂŁ11,000... Genuinely makes me take a loan out, travel over and do the same. I've made several attempts over the years, and the times I had actually died, theyve brought me back to life, everytime I wake up I feel crushed that I failed agaaain.. At least with assisted suicide, there's no chance it would fail, it would definitely work... Oh how I want that so bad.. I'm 29. I do not want to be here anymore
I'm so sorry that you are going through so much mental pain. I assume you are depressed. My daughter has suffered from depression for over 10 years and she has found it hard as well. She said the best thing she ever did was to have EMDR therapy as it helped more than just going for councelling. Please look it up and give it a try. You could contribute so much to the world and death is so final.
Please reconsider. We are not promised a perfect or fair life.
In this life you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world -Jesus.
In the Word, God warns us out of love, not willing that any should perish. He says whoever destroys his temple, him also, I will destroy!- God
Your life and your body is not your own, it's given to you on loan.
If you can not be faithful over little, how can I set you over much?- God
Years of undending depression is a long drawn out painful life. Im sorry for the pain the mother is feeling but he was his own person. I hate it when people say suicide is selfish. Its one thing if someone is experiencing a temporary bout of depression, but if an adult has experienced decades of feeling that way, and they've tried to heal to no avail, we need to respect and honor their decision. Him going to this Swiss place to do it this way, rather than a violent messy way with a family member finding him actually was very thoughful and unselfish.
Antidepressants are fantastic for clinical depression.........u wd be amazed how positive people feel and balanced from taking them
Well said â€
@mariamoments478 they definitely helped me. They took away my giddy highs which I miss, but no longer feeling paralyzingly depressed is a life saver.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE â€â€â€â€
I do not agree that this manâs choices is a danger to others. The family should NOT be grieving in public. He was a man who died with dignity but his mother is telling the world. Have respect for his choices, grieve in private.
Im soo sorry for the loss of your son. Itâs devastating, unfortunately when youâre depressed it seems the only way. We need better mental care.
It's common for people who choose to end their lives to have good time just before taking that step. They made their peace.
And one can see the mother mistaken that calm period for recovery... while i feel sorry for her for loosing her son, it was his decision and his struggle.
This is what is happening in Canada...assisted dying for terminal patients is now being offered to people with depression ..to vets who are not being properly cared for with disabilities..they just offer medical assistance to die rather than to actually help them. ITS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL
It takes a lot of money to help them. Where would it come from?
â@@maxmanx1294I can't believe you actually said that.
@@michellemarshall5806 Why?
Totally agree lexip9225
When a family member is suffering from depression and the family are aware of it through observation or because they have been informed by their relative, they should ensure that they donât argue with the person over politics, religion, anything, because the depressed person may seem okay that day but they are not okay, just a little better, but later when they think of the argument, it triggers their depression to worsen. We may not agree with each others opinions about certain things, but try to be diplomatic, donât argue with someone whoâs brain works fine intellectually but emotionally they are not resilient, they are depressives, or going through a hard time thatâs making them depressed, be careful, you donât need to win an argument.
Iâm working with two specialists to be on the list when it becomes available in Canada. November 27. Having a mental illness is like trying to live a normal life with your proverbial hands tied behind your back. Not sure if I will tell everyone in advance.
Could you consider leaving letters to those who you love with an explanation. The whys will be unbearable for those left behind. Having said this I am deeply sorry you are in a place where you cannot face the future.
@@arnicepernice8656 I plan to tell them. Closer to 2027
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
EVERYONE should have this choice. I live in Australia, the most BACKWARD thinking country for this subject. If I CHOOSE to pass away, its my choice, NOBODY elses !!!....I don't believe that you should have to have a terminal illness either...... Just imagine if the lad shot himself, or tried to hang himself and he DIDN'T DIE and ended up in a wheelchair or with brain damage, then he has the rest of his life in hell........I am sorry for your loss, but know that your son is happy and this is what he wanted to do.............xo
So true, when I want to die, đąhis is my choice no one elseâs
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
He had obviously surrered most his life with pain . He was 47, and still was able to make his decisions. You cannot force a person to live. I approve of his decision. No one should tell you , "you have to stay here and suffer _____years more of pain and depression. He had enough.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
This is sad and I can't imagine the heartbreak for his mum. But it was his planned choice. I think in life people want everyone to see the sunshine and not all do, alone with the lack of mental health and physical help here, benefits causing more stress for people etc some just don't want to go on. I wish he'd had help to go on who wouldn't but he made the choice for himself.
I hope his mom can come to accept his decision and his autonomy. Living life without your own family, alone as a grown man in your parents house isn't the life for everyone. His love for children shows that he most likely wanted his own children. Even his mom speculates that so it was no secret, he wanted a family. As a woman who cannot have children due to medical reasons, I can empathize with how difficult it is when you love and want children but can't have any. It takes a LOT of the meaning out of life and when you add on the loss of ability to work and having to move in with parents it's a really terrible situation to be in. He made his choice, and it should be respected. I thank God I live in Canada where medically assisted dying is available to many people who are suffering. I may use it myself one day when my own medical issues inevitably become worse and more painful.
May Alister rest in peace.
This is the problem
Choose dying when OK without your family
What's to say people to get rid of their wife or a child they carnt cope with
You can actually talk people into thinking they need to die
It was his choice to die. Perhaps he didn't tell his mother because she seems in denial about his mental pain. It's nobody's business but the person who wants to die.
He was done. I know it's painful for families, but some people stop living long before their body stops working.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
It also shows what people are going through with the DWP and NHS with undiagnosed conditions.
He's a grown man He made his decision Mom You have to accept it
Sadly his mother was in denial of his pain. And mental health services are woefully lacking.
It is only him who can say wheater or not life is worth living. You should never let family influence your decision.
What a cruel thing to do to oneâs family.
Agree. But I don't think he was in his right mind.
How dare you judge his actions. You have clearly never experienced the horrendous depths of depression. It is debilitating and unbearable.
My body my choice. Stop the scaremongering
Don't let your ego define you
How is that scaremongering? It's just keeping people informed. If anything more people will look up the company now that they know it exists
So you donât believe in suicide prevention. Evil. Pure evil.
ââ@@romycerratti3716Oh grow up , keep calling people evil in the comments like a 12 year old in the playground.
Try defining a well rounded argument instead of just insulting people.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
Perhaps you should know that mental health professionals also help people by saying we cannot stop you.
Great .
They make you feel guilty , that doesnât stop you.
There is NO support despite what people say. Many many will fall through the gaps and will have tragic suicides.
The emergency line is an answer phone between the hours of 5/pm and 9 am. I live with this daily . Who is to decide what qualifies as quality of life.
He was an adult who made the decision that suited his wants/needs. He is not a child, mom lost her boy but cannot seem to let go. She wants to blame someone, anyone for his decision.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
@@Sam___Smith Keep your ideology to yourself, not everyone shares in the nonsense.
@@Dobviews you could keep your ideologies to yourself as well, not everyone shares in the nonsense either, but you said what you said and I said what I said!
@@Dobviews Please keep your opinion to yourself. Not everyone appreciates your naive perspective.
@@oyamawapiti Is that supposed to silence me or something. As for your opinion, I would have to value it first... *I don't.*
Everyone is going " woe is me, poor Mum" " the clinic failed" but all the time not knowing exactly why the son took the assisted dying route.
If someone can assist with suicide it's better then the alternative. If you are an adult why should you have to tell anyone what you are doing. Saying that a family member has to be called is rediculous and tagkes away adults privacy. They don't want the fuss that will undoubtedly happen. Would you rather have a call saying your loved one stepped in front of a train or get a call from a clinic letting you know and being able to explain exactly how it's done. It should be entirely up to an adult person if they choose to call family before or if they would like family there or not. This is a very personal choice they have made. If they start getting bullied into making choices the don't want most will go bwck to violent deaths. Making this choice is not an easy one, why is this such a deal when this is a better humane way of deciding that you want to die. You don't live in their shoes so you can't tell someone everything will be ok when you have no idea how they are truly feeling. People need to respect peoples choices. If I want to die, I will figure out how to do it on my own, without family spectators.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
I am sure he thought long and hard about doing this. He must have been in unbearable pain physically and emotionally.
He didn't have right over life and death. He isn't God.
Your life is not your own, your body is not your own. It's on loan from God. To see if you will be faithful in small matters.
If you cannot be faithful over little how can I set you over much? If you cannot be faithful over what is not your own, how can I set you over what is your own? -God
It doesn't feel wrong. I'm glad organisations as Dignitas exists. And apparantly her son felt his life was unbearable. It's not up to her to decide if his life was liveable.
Your death is something very personal.
Mum You don't know what stage your son was at He was at that stage that's why he ended his life with help!!!