Was this an ICM punt or GTO pressure strategy?

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2022
  • Just how extreme can you go with your bet sizes as the chip leader at a big final table?
    Today Dara and Barry discuss THAT hand from the World Poker Tour Championship where Benny Glaser open shoved for 48 big blinds effective at a table full of short stacks, only to be called by the one player who could hurt him.
    Was this an insane misstep or a viable ICM pressure poker strategy gone wrong?
    **ICM Poker Explained**
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Komentáře • 5

  • @user-lk5kn2tr7k
    @user-lk5kn2tr7k Před rokem

    Wow, so detailed explanation, thanks a lot, was very interesting to grasp something new.

  • @sebastiannickel4377
    @sebastiannickel4377 Před rokem +1

    As always: Thank you I love you guys please keep making more videos yadda yadda, and re. this video in particular I've shared it on the Poker Guys discord and have been discussing your solver outputs and comments there.
    Now, I've promised my discord friends to come here and yell at you for your pre-flop settings. Dara says at 15:33 that he didn't edit the 3bet sizings since those parts of the game tree didn't come up in game. That's stupid. You were specifically comparing 2x, 4x, 6x, and all-in opens, and 3 of those 4 game-tree branches do not deny Elliot the option to 3bet, which therefore needed to be set up correctly. You idiot. You discuss Elliot's 3bet range and Benny's response to Elliot's 3bets, but you've given Elliot a 3bet size of 5bb you absolute fish. Plus you've cluttered the game tree with that 6.6bb 3bet size for the SB and what not. Removing irrelevant sizings from the tree will not just make the solve less expensive, it will also allow HRC to converge toward a better solution as solvers are yet to attain God-like ability, just a you are evidently yet to attain human-like ability at using computer software. Jerk.
    You have been yelled at. ^^
    Ok, I've run the sim with IP 3bet sizes "3.4x + 1.0x, all in" and just the "2.0bb, all in" open sizes. The HJ gets to 3! a tad more often (2% vs your 1.7%), and, perhaps most interestingly, AA becomes practically a pure 3bet. As you say in the vid, Benny folds to a 5bb 3bet just over 1/3 or the time, but he folds to a 6.8bb 3bet almost half the time. He also 4bets a tad more often, and, in particular, AJo 4bets 1/5 of the time.
    Thank you guys I love you please keep making more videos you're the best. ^^

    • @MrDokedoke
      @MrDokedoke Před rokem +2

      Thanks for sharing the results of your sim! Could definitely have put more thought into it but wanted to get it out quick. We talking to Andy Wilson for The Chip Race this afternoon and he had some further interesting thoughts which you'll get to hear on the next Chip Race.

  • @stuartsweeneywilson828
    @stuartsweeneywilson828 Před rokem +2

    I'm a normie and 6 min in the vid....it seems completely unnecessary. With that said....

  • @MeMe-in8tj
    @MeMe-in8tj Před rokem +1

    If you think "top players" said Benny would have won over 90% of the time with only 43% of the chips in play, you either miscategorized them, misunderstood them, or they were exaggerating. Yes, Benny was the huge favorite with 43% of chips in play and a skill advantage to boot, but 90%+ to win is laughable. IF Benny was truly 90%+ to win, then shoving AJ there would have been a horrendous punt. But he was not 90%+ to win. Come on now.