Bergmann Transitional No 4/5 Pistols
Vložit
- čas přidán 12. 01. 2017
- / forgottenweapons
Cool Forgotten Weapons merch! shop.bbtv.com/collections/forg...
If you enjoy Forgotten Weapons, check out its sister channel, InRangeTV! / inrangetvshow
Another pair of transitional Bergmann transitional prototypes today, this time ones that sit between the 1896 and 1897 designs (No2/3/4 and No5). One of these is basically an 1896 frame with an 1897 upper assembly and locking system, while the other is basically an 1896 action with an 1897 grip frame and stock attachment socket. Their serial numbers indicate that they were actually part of standard production, although they do not conform to the standards of the 1896 and 1897 models.
I think the Bergman development maybe one of Ian's most thoroughly documented families.
It's easier to do that when he gets his hands on a HUGE collection like that.
I have enjoyed the series on Bergmann pistols a great deal. Thank you, Ian, for the guided tour and insights. Please express my thanks to the collector who shared this amazing private collection for all of us to enjoy vicariously.
it's just an assumption but i think Ian really likes Bergmann pistols.
Ian likes all old weapon.
So when he comes across an almost comprehensive private collection of Bergmann pistols, a crap ton of videos happens.
Technology evolution is usually interesting, and with firearms, aircraft, or tanks it becomes fascinating to me. My favorite is when a manufacturer hangs on to an old paradigm and perfects, like with some of the last combat biplanes, seaplanes, or combat piston-engine airplanes. Just the sound of a Hawker Sea Fury is intoxicating.
TY again for another great video. I find it interesting that from approx 1889 to 1915 that the semi auto pistol went through so many design changes & "styles" that to this day they are so much more appealing & desirable than most modern pistols IMO. Previous to watching FG I was ignorant of the Bergman pistols, I am again happy I subscribed to this channel. Keep up the great work
Hey Ian, when are we gonna see the mud test on these!?
Somebody needs to make a t-shirt of gun Jesus dual wielding Bergmann pistols.
No, it needs to be ian as a hindu god with every single bergman transitional pistol in his many hands
+Noodlion bruh, those are Lugers
Ok tie-dye t-shirts with Ian as Vishnu holding every Bergmann transitional pistol, money to be made for our Gun Lord Ian.
I love your page sir. I hope you come out with a book.
He is working on one.
Jacob S. yes!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for telling me that sir
It came out!
ty for this series. I like all firearms and have subbed most firearm channels but this channel is by far my favorite. everything modern is basically the same as far as mechanisms go with exception of a few, but you always bring something unique and go into more detail. from history to mechanics. so again thank you for bringing knowledge that would otherwise be "forgotten".
would b cool though if you made another channel and did reviews on modern firearms in the same fashion ie history, mechanics, anecdotes etc. would b nice to learn more than what most channels put out. I never really understood what firing over and over teaches you about the gun other than reliability and that's usually a variable due to ammo used, break in periods, quality control etc.
ian, heard your letter to Jack. awesome. i had forgotten you did an episode with him. will have to go listen to it again. congratulations on ypur milestone man!
The step to detachable magazine seems an improvement. The lack of control over retaining the monkey tail clip in case needed again to reload, especially in combat, seems a major weakness. With a mag you have more control over its release and retention.
Well now I want one, they're really cool!
these handguns are beautiful
Hey Ian, when you're finished with these pistols, try doing a review on the Selbstlader 1906
I’d love to collect these
This is a damn good channel. Seriously, awesome work in explaining about everything there is to about the weapons you show. I'd subscribe again if i could.
moar Bergmann! :) good stuff!
damn, more i see these pistols the more i want one...bet they go for big bucks though
I'm wandering what'll be the next Bergmann for tomorrow's video.
Ian, you are a beast, keep up the good work!!!! DO A WILDEY PISTOL NEXT!!!!!
A little rewatch.
Hmm... interesting
They came out with a double stack mag that early?
Ian, will you make a review on the de lisle carbine?
Welcome to the Bergmann Pistols channel. :)
-Jen
Hi Ian.
Thank you for uploading these excellent videos.
Can you please make a video of Simplex 8mm, too?
Seraph Thank you
Your videos are really amazing, I really enjoy these forgotten weapons you review. Also, the world's smallest gun Kolibri, will you be shooting it? because you just reviewed it and it's a pretty old video.
Trollbest2 Plays! You know how rare the ammo for that would be?
Obviously, Perhaps a projectile or so? I just want to see it's damage to a tin can etc.
they look very star wars
He knew of Star Wars before this gun
Hey Ian really like your videos and have a request : please look for some soviet handguns ( Stechkin APB/APS , PM/ PMm or 9PG {not sure on the name on the last it could vary } thanks from germany !
I want this it battlefield one
Ian, what cartridge is the locked breach transitional chambered for?
THE BERGMANN TRAIN NEVAR STOPS! TUUUT TUUUT! :]
After all those vid's i want buy bergmann's pistol for myself ....
.....;-; Scheiße
Maybe it's just my CZcams... but did the #5 post before this transitional 4/5?
hans solo used one of these in star wars
No, that was a c96 Mauser, a now-rare "Red 9" 9mm parabellum version at that. The Mandalorian has a Bergman. Or at least something that looks like a Bergman.
Are these still capable of firing without any damage to the gun itself or they're just a shelf piece?
Guns in general age really well if you take care of them so yes these are capable of firing if you can get the ammo for them. However most people would advise against shooting loads that the particular weapon wasn't designed for because it will likely damage the gun over time.
In one of the videos Ian shows ammunition, and the ammunition has not aged particulalrly well. While a well maintained gun will last as long as the maintenance does, ammunition has a far less impressive shelf life. The older stuff especially, it deteriorates.
New ammo could be made, but without the original load specifications its a bit of a crapshoot. We can estimate ranges for things like chamber pressure and whatnot but it would be difficult to replicate accurately without that info.
So these move from clip to magazine. Is there any compelling reason for a clip over a magazine?
Faster loading + more ammo = longer shooting at bad guys
The biggest reason is that the feed lips are actually really hard to get right, so clips let you make the feed lips as part of the gun, and then the clips only need to hold the ammunition.
Magazines need to both hold ammunition and (usually) be the feed lips. The Madsen and Johnson LMGs are examples of magazines that don't have feed lips, which means they need to have some extra part to hold the ammunition inside.
Ian,do you invent gun?
Ian, I have an 1936 German made k98k with no nazi symbol and with all matching parts, is it weird that it has no nazi symbol?
gavlan I don't think they came into power until '38
@@alexmoore1506 I think they took power at 1933. Atleast Nuremberg law was passed at 34. Hitler hosted Olympics at 36
This collector appears to have a serious Bergmann fetish! Joking aside, yes that is the point of "collecting", just a pretty obscure ally way in firearms collecting these days!
Lol that one dislike
WHY... Why has at least one of these been used in the new Star Wars, stick a Nazi flash hider and PU scope on one of these and you have a new iconic blaster pistol.
david whitehead that was a C96
I know, I just feel it would fit the style...tell me you couldn't envision these as a a blaster if you put some flashy bit's on it and gave it to a Rodian. (and yes I know that their fingers wouldn't fit. before somebody brings it up)
I think you may have some sort of unhealthily deep affections for these types of guns Ian.....
enough with the bergmann pistols... plz stop
Not until we have done them all.
You can stop watching:)