"BACK TO BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONS!" 🏆 Is this the greatest Argentina team OF ALL TIME? | ESPN FC
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- The Futbol Americas crew Sebastian Salazar, Herculez Gomez and Shaka Hislop debate whether this Argentina team, which has won a World Cup, two Copa Americas and a Finalissima trophy in the past four years, is the greatest national team of all time.
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Argentina, in the last ten years, has only been knocked out by of international competitions only by the eventual champions. Germany 2014, Chile back to back and France 2018. But I guess people don't remember your efforts, only your results.
Also uruguay in 2011, it's been 14 years since the last time Argentina went out to anyone but the champions(2010 Germany)
Solid Argument. They made finals of big tournaments or lost to eventual champions. Imagine if the Copa Penalties of 2015-2016 went the other way plus Higuain plays a little better in 2014 WC final This would be a historic Messi run.
If Argentina is able to win Finalissima 2025 and maybe make one last WC Run this would be one of the greatest teams of the modern era.
Their goalkepper is the reason they win so many games! if their goalkeeper wasn't that good, I doubt they would win so many games. They are lucky they have a great goalkeeper. Notice that since their goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez joined Argentina's national team in 2021 Argentina has been winning every tournment....lol.
Brilliant 👏 that is also the case with Leo messi, his efforts for throughout his career isn't remembered/credited by people much these days but only his results. Its a big shame people still argue against messi about if he really is the greatest ever or not.
U can add 2019 semis against Brazil… who also won the tournament
Argentina defeated South American champs Brazil at the Maracana, defeated Italy the Euro Champs in the Filasima, and France the defending world champions at the 2022 World Cup and most recently Colombia (on a 28 undefeated streak) who defeated Spain leading up to Copa America. Argentina topped all comparisons.
They're probably the worst world cup winning side of all time
@@andrijastojcic5695Not even you believe that. Just quit watching the sport because you clearly don't get it
@@Mr.Josh. theyre worse than France 2018, Germany 2014, Spain 2010, Italy 2006, Brazil 2002, France 1998, Brazil 1994, Germany 1990, they're worse than Argentina 1986, they're worse than Italy 1982.. do I need to continue
@@andrijastojcic5695 You need to continue watching another sport, bro. The idiocy coming out of your keyboard is astounding.
@@andrijastojcic5695You’re speaking rubbish…..Go cry with Ronaldo😂😂😂😂😂
They only lost 2 games in 5 years and 4 international trophies, its just insane!
His point about Argentina dominance being 3 years and Spain 4 years is idiotic. It's 3 tournaments in a row.. Not many teams have done that
Yes he is idiot
They have dominated 3 tournaments in a row. They've been mostly mid against bad teams and got gifted the France final
@@omardevonlittle3817 don't be ridiculous. How do you think Spain played in every game of Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012? You don't have a clue 🤷
Gifted a final against France? The reigning world champions and favourites for the title?
Exactly two teams have done that. Spain 2008-2012 and Argentina 2021-2024.
Four in a row never happened.
@@stanislavlacko7577cannot compare. The past few copas the quality has been so poor. The world Cup Argentina won on penalties. That don't make you the best team. Spain beat better teams too. No Argentina player currently would get into Spains team. Messi finished Argentina looked better without him. Alvarez good but never a great. Romero?? Macallister none of these boys could play 20 years ago.
Disrespectful to Not give di María, Emi their flowers. They were every bit important in winning the last 3 finals
@Maradona1986.he plays for aston villa whos been rlly good this szn and are in the ucl
@Maradona1986.But maybe thats why he shines with argentina, he has a point to prove whenever he plays internationally. He can play at Villa and be underrated or whatever, but that adds to the fear factor. Remember its not easy to break a man who does everything for his country and not his own wages
di maria is one of the most clutch big game players ever
@@euphoriaggaminghdwarra great comment
They are the reason why Argentina have their last 4 cups.
Messi helped them but in my opinion Di Maria and Emi are the reason why Argentina has 4 cups
You also have to remember they lost 1-2 copas and another World Cup final. Argentina have been to more finals than most team. They just couldn’t get over the last stage. Now they have.
Brasil a ganado 5 mundiales
@@Sheccid1991shup up btch no one talking about that
@@Sheccid1991so
Yes, Argentina reach international finals at an absolutely freaky rate. They've played 6 out of 8 available finals since 2014 (including the WC final), winning 3, losing 3. The *only* times they got knocked out before the final were at the 2018 WC and the 2019 Copa.
This is astounding. Between 2014 and 2024 they have participated in 6 finals in 10 years, 6 finals in the last 8 tournaments, winning three of them consecutively. And if Higuain could hold his nerves they would have had 2016 in the bag too to put some things into perspective. Football historians will look back on prime Messi’s Argentina as a dynasty of the game!
Last 62 games they lost only 2, in football that is beyond incredible, if u see something like that in a movie, u said this is too much fiction, this is crazy.
Messi has been a part of my life. We literally grew up with Messi. Vamos!
Stick to cricket thanks it's you guys who have ruined this game.
Facts
@@user-kq9vv5tj1u it's clowns like you that made normal football discussions a circus
@@user-kq9vv5tj1ufootball is for everyone
@@user-kq9vv5tj1upendu fan spotted
Argentina will ALWAYS be amongst the giants of fùtbol... they've produced Maradona & Messi....theyll produce another 🔥
We might never see another Messi. He’s an anomaly.
@@elixir9261Another Maradona is really the impossible one. Football for attackers is 1/4 tough compared to that time.
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t plz let’s not argue and again feel free to watch it here.
No finesse will beat Messi’s one, Maradona just did his at a bigger occasion.
Good day sir.
Maradona nvr won a single european cup in his 21 yr career😅😅@@elixir9261
@user-bi5nw4vp6t Gerd Muller had no problem scoring 800+ goals back then, it wasn't that hard
Last 10 years, except 2018 wcup and 2019 cup, Argentina has reached finals everh time. That's incredible
What’s also incredible too is the open racism in Argentina and the national team too. I say this as an Argentine l. NO ROOM FOR RACISM.
@@himynameis294cry elsewhere
@@himynameis294what are you talking about, now is talk about how good they are , and you said racism, and the truth is the France player all a one from Africa, not the real French
Herculez Gomez is spot on. It seems people don’t understand how Argentina plays. They are not a fancy tiki-taka machine, but they can neutralize any attack and create chances with just 2-3 passes. They can run nonstop for 120 minutes and press relentlessly. They have great forwards who can create chances out of nowhere. They play an old-style football where every player knows what needs to be done. Lastly, they have an incredible leader in Messi, for whom they will drop their last blood. They can certainly win the 2026 World Cup again.
spot on. More like a germany
It’s so funny watching Shaka struggle with giving Argentina their flowers. He sprinkles some salt on all his compliments 😅
You're absolutely right bro, you're a football analyst
😊shaka hislop is only good to criticize as Argentina and messi but to give them credit he is lost for words
Brazil is a. Lost team right now
@damian7304 well said bro
2 losses in 5 years makes Argentina the best for me.
Shaka forgets that Columbia beats Brazil and Uruguay even Spain recently😂
This English people knows nothing
They tied Brazil in the group stage in Copa America.
This Argentina NT/ Messi has the biggest impact on football. No national team currently and before has the global following outside of their native homeland. For me, this Argentina national team will have a lasting impact on world football. Herc, Argentina is a footballing powerhouse, your euro centric point of view is so narrow minded. Argentina is a big football country, they prove they can win a tournament like the world cup without the influence of clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona etc.
Please shut up and stick to another sport. Biggest impact in football. You absolutely know nothing.
Brazil and Argentina always had global fans....
@@lorreacabo absolutely rubbish. Anybody with this opinion don't know football. Please go to another sport. We don't want you. Thanks.
I agree. Quite a few pundits have a very insular view of things. Prior to winning back to back Copas, finalissima, WC, being in all those finals they lost said something about Messi's dominance and Argentina's quality. You gotta think how Messi was ever labeled an international failure when he led his team in the finals enough times. But I guess for people, reaching the finals has no merit at all if a team lost it.
In the last 10 years Argentina played 7 tournaments and reached the final match 5 times. Its insane.
Argentina is amazing
Argentina Won 4 Championship in 4 Years 🏆🏆🏆🏆
& Lost 2 Matches in 5 years 👈🏻The King 👑 Argentina 🇦🇷🥇 of MESSIA Force ⚽🐐
Their goalkepper is the reason they win so many games! if their goalkeeper wasn't that good, I doubt they would win so many games. They are lucky they have a great goalkeeper.
@@BethV-rx7undo the goalkeeper plays in other team or in Argentina? What a silly comment!
@@BethV-rx7unlol is martinez from Nigeria? Cause what kind of stupid argument is this. If the outfield players stops scoring or defending you think he wouldn’t concede?
Bro just sleep if you don’t know what to type
@@olanigbaezekiel9874 Their goalkeeper is without a doubt their greatest asset. On July 3, 2024 New York Times posted an article about their goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez which says "Defending champions Argentina did not concede a goal in their three group games at this summer’s Copa America in the United States and Martinez is a major reason why." And I totally agree 100%! They would not have won so many games if their goakeeper wasn't that good.
lmao they arent dominant the goalie is the one that has carried Argentina
Enzo and Alvarez are the key to sustaining the level. If they grow into world class players, Argentina has a chance to keep going
Di Maria has been massive for Argentina as well. MOTM for me vs France in the final of the WC. Whole dynamic changed when he was subbed off. Also match winner against Brazil in 2021 copa and a massive absence during WC 2014 final. Silent GOAT.
Thank you, Di Maria is the key factor for Argentina, he outshine Messi in big games
Lol how? All he does is score 1 goal in a final….how does that suddenly make him a GOAT? Jesus you people 😂
@elixir9261 since impact, just like copa 21 finals when Messi was pathetic, Di maria carried the team
@@mauricewilliams3478 so why’s Messi always the best player at every competition if Di Maria “carries” him like you claimed?
@elixir9261 Alot of awards he gets it not warranted e.g Ballon D'ors
We can’t underestimate the achievement thus far, without a doubt this team is amongst the best national teams in history and you can’t take this away from them. Comparing the reigning champions time span between Spain and Argentina shows how much you’re biased towards any team but Argentina
The competition also have to be compared. Spain won it when it was tough
they are most definitely up there in conversation as one of the greatest sides of all time without a doubt. if they do the 4peat in 26 they will be the greatest ever becuase that's never been done before. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Spain v Argentina final in 26.
Simply No. Argentina is great but all time?? We have to look competition too
@user-bi5nw4vp6t at the end of the day, it's the trophies that make a great team.
Brazil team of 1962 have defended their title before
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t It's subjective. There is no way to measure competition except random opinions.
@@Freestyler-rr Yes Brazil team of 1958-62 successfully defended their World Cup title and they are up there as one of the greatest of all time, i agree and Brazil are still the only nation that has retained it.
People will simply sleep on this cause Argentina have Messi...they have lost only twice in the last 63 games choke on that... whatever they did in this time span is not normal and ten years from now on this team will be acknowledged more..now people r just so busy hating on Messi they completely overlook the fact Argentina won this Copa without Messi needing to do anything significant at all 😂...so yeah, this team is one of the best team of all time and the second best team of this century only behind Spain '08-'12.
Exactly!!! Say it louder!
Better than Brazil 2002? 🤔
@@Freestyler-rr in terms of winning trophies, squad balance, yes...individual quality wise absolutely no.....cause one can argue even right now on paper there are better teams than Argentina like Portugal or France.
@@awayfrom234........No. The level of competition also must be considered. 02 Brazil was better. Argentina shined but the era challenges are weak.
As someone who thinks that early 2010’s spain is easily the best national team of all time, if argentina go and win another world cup, there’s no debate that this argentina team is the best of all time.
Just getting out of the group stage in 2026 should put the team on top of Spain. No one talks about their ateocious performance in 2014 WC... they were trashed by Netherlands and Chile.
They’re already better. They lost back to back copa finals and also lost a World Cup final…..no other team has appeared in multiple World Cup finals asides France.
@@87crimsonno this Argentina team is decent but that Spanish team was different class
The competition was tough that time
@@87crimsonArgentina were very poor in the 2018 World Cup too tho
MESSI injured and with one leg, play better than 99% of the players. He was injured since the first game of copa america.
To be fair he’s been carrying a injury for most of the season with inter
And he was playing good in the first minutes against Colombia until the moment he injured himself and decide to continue with the pain.
2021 - Copa America
2022 - World Cup
2023 - Finalissima
2024 - Copa America
It's 4 years not 3
2021 - beat the champions at their home
2022 - by definition, beat the Euro champions
2023 - beat the World Champions
2024 - beat the team that was holding the longest undefeated run
If we're talking stats, of course...
And to Chakas's point, Spain played their best football in years on the pitches the world has to offer, while all south americans struggled in undergrown grass in poorly adapted, tight American Football pitches.
Argentina are one of the best teams in the world winning 2 Copas and a WC, fantastic achievement. But that Finallissima doesn’t count, that’s one match
@@erhhsdhh2099it’s a match between Euro & Alerica champions. It counts. It used to be the Federations Cup. Now shortened to the biggest continents. Only Europe & South America have won World Cups.
@@Patricio007x I see what you are saying, but if that counts, then so does the Nations League I believe. A lot of the diehard Messi fans will celebrate Filisima but will invalidate Ronaldo’s NL. Not saying you’re one of them by any means and there are plenty of toxic Ronaldo fans as well, but I think you have to count both in that case
@@erhhsdhh2099 I am counting both. Hence the clarification that Finalissima is the former NL.
Your generalization sounds like an excuse to play victim. CR fans can’t cope w Messi’s trophies. 45 in total.
CR fans:
1 Olympic Gold medal “doesn’t count”
2 WC U20 “doesn’t count”
3 WC final “choker”
4 Copa America Final 2015 “choker”
5 Copa America Final 2016 “choker”
“Messi needs Xavi & Iniesta”
6 Copa America Final 2021 “lucky”
7 Finalissima 2022 “made up trophy”
8 WC2022 “rigged”
9 Copa America 2024 “injured in final”
Funny thing, Ronaldo also out in Euro final for injury.
I admire both players. Don’t fall for the antagonistic media trap.
Messi however is the greatest. Creative player, insane dribbling w most trophies.
CR fans count goals. Ronaldo started earlier & played against Luxemburg, San Marino, Andorra, Faroe Islands etc.
@@Patricio007x Okay first of all, I’m not playing the victim at all, I’m simply stating that you have to count both trophies. And when I say ‘you’, I meant generally, not you personally. So chill. And your paragraph about CR fans, that’s definitely true, but Messi fans are just as bad- I see on social media that they bring Ronaldo all the time when he’s not mentioned. And your last point about Ronaldo playing weaker countries, Messi has definitely played weaker countries as well.
The Argentinian T-shirt...the most valuable nobodays
They're clearly up there with the best international teams ever. They may not play great attacking football, yet what makes them such a formidable side is their organisation, physicality, determination; along with an incredible spirit and belief. There's no better example of that belief than those games against the Netherlands and France at the World Cup. Most teams would have fallen apart after losing a 2-0 lead, yet Argentina were able to pull through and go on to win those games.
They've obviously also benefited from having Messi still be at a level where he's been able to help play a crucial role in the success they've had. This Copa was the only time where he wasn't their standout player. However, he still contributed to their success. The same goes for Di Maria, who obviously has been huge in Finals. Not to mention, Martinez, who is without doubt their greatest keeper ever.
What I always find funny though is how people act like the Copa America isn't competitive. Anyone who claims that clearly has never watched it; which is why they clearly have no knowledge about the competition. It's the most physically demanding international tournament by a distance. The pace is frantic, while the majority of sides are so difficult to break down. Winning it is anything but easy.
Hislop is not qualified to talk about this Argentina team frankly.
Argentina will win WC 2026 as a tribute for Messi retirement, the perfect closure for GOAT.
the media really have u sheep thinking Argentina winning titles adds to messis goat status lmfao. Messi is 1 of the goats from his prime at barca not him 34yr+ old getting carried by argentina
@@BORGES1810 Thank you for sharing your opinion. But better to put it out there on your own. Don't hide as a reply under my comment.
@@dontgiveup7262 no I wanted to respond to ur comment specifically. Too many ppl acting like Messi’s recent Argentina performances r goat levels, they aren’t. He’s on a good team that gets a lot of help from the refs (most penalties ever at a wc) & very easy runs in copa(played Canada twice) sorry if the facts hurt ur feelings mate.
GOAT GOAT GOAT IN FOOTBALL WORLD
@@BORGES1810 Denying it doesn't add to his legacy is nonsensical. Pele is credited as the only player to win three World Cups, yet didn't play beyond the second game in 62. That isn't what's most remembered, it's the fact he was a key part of Brazil's success in 2 of those tournaments. The same applies to Messi for Argentina at the 2021 Copa and 2022 World Cup. Therefore, to say he was carried at 34 onwards is completely false. At that age he literally was the standout player for Argentina over the course of the tournament, with his 4 goals and 5 assists. The same goes for the World Cup a year later. You talk about pens, yet they are part of the game. The reality also is France were awarded two in the Final; so anyone claiming it was rigged for Argentina clearly isn't living in reality. Not to mention, even without pens Messi either scored or assisted in every KO game at that tournament.
As for now, he's 37 and was injured from the second game onwards. However, he still was able to contribute with his involvement in the goals against Canada and Chile in the group stage, Ecuador in the Quarter finals, and a goal in the Semi Finals. It wasn't a tournament where they depended on him, yet he played his part.
Enzo chant was not racist 🤷♀️
Is like when some pundits during World Cup cliticized Qatar for nationalizing many of its players for the tournament 🤷♀️
the problem isnt nationalizing, the problem is argentina only calling out the african players. many argentine players r also nationalized from europe but thats not a problem to them. only when its from africa its a problem. plus y r they singing about France? very insecure, they know they didnt deserve to win.
@@BORGES1810which player and defenitely not the entier team like France who to this day are still butthurt about Argentina owning them back then when they didn't even deserve to comeback with those 2 shady undeserved penalties after Argentina dominated them for 80 minutes Lol
@@zakariadjouzi660 what? France r butthurt? Isn’t the Argentina team the ones who started signing the song about France players mothers being from Africa after they won Copa? A tournament France isn’t even in? Seems like Argentina r very insecure about their micky mouse World Cup win😂😂😂
@@BORGES1810I don't understand WHY anyone right now is wasting their time roasting France!!! They're NOT THE TOP team in Europe anymore and they NEVER deserved to be top because their clubs and their league overall SUCKS!!!! 💀
@@sab-vl4jg u don’t need a reason w/ ignorant racists. Argentina have a very dark history & this should be no surprise, just disappointing. Wish fifa would follow through on punishments but we all know who’s their favorite🤷
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Massive Spain and Argentina fan here. Been watching the sport since 2006 and watching both teams since then. If we solely go by 2008-2012 Spain and 2021-2024 Argentina, Spain is clearly better but not WAY better. Their players were generally better on paper (all world class in their positions) and by play style. I also say this as I believe euros is generally harder to win and Spain’s World Cup knockout stage was slightly harder than Argentina’s too imo and they didn’t require penalty shootouts to win any of their knockouts.
But we are forgetting Brazil 2002-2007. They got 1 World Cup, 2 copas and 1 confederations cup which is definitely harder than finalissima since more games are played
Messi is GOAT. This version of Argentina is def tops.
Argentina has produced 3 of top 4 players in HISTORY. DiStefano/Maradona/Messi
Messi has won the most trophies in the history of the game (45). The undisputed Goat 💪 🐐
trophies r won by teams. 15 of those r copa del rey/spanish cups, anyone wins that many statpadding a single league on a prime barca whose core won 2 euros & a wc without messi. 5 copa finals 0 goals and 0 assits but you wont see espn cover that.
@@BORGES1810stop crying Messi also won 4 UCL trophies and 10 La Liga titles next to 2 Trebles and 1 Sextuple and with Argentina he won 2 Copa America titles, 1 World Cup, 1 Intercontinental Cup and the Olympics just to name a few where he was very instrumental all around overall in pretty much all of them unlike Ronaldo who by the way never even scored or assisted a single goal at the World Cup KO Stages games despite playing 8 KO Stages games in 5 différent World Cups over 20 years of Career as a striker mainly for Portugal with their two golden générations but you won't ever see ESPN cover that.
@@zakariadjouzi660 🤣🤣🤣 someone tell this kid Ronaldo has the most ko goals all time & match winning goals EVER. All messi fans can do now is compare Argentinas trophies Messi won out his prime to Ronaldo & a small country like Portugal that only qualified for 3 WCs before his debut. Why? Cus Ronaldo beat Messi at club level dominating in England Italy & Spain where he won mvp, top scorer & league titles.Messi flopped in France couldn’t win mvp or top scorer, 1 league player💀 and at the peak of modern football the UCL Ronaldo is know as the unanimous GOAT. Keep coping kid🤣🤣🤣
@@BORGES1810 He has just 3 goals in 21 Euro and World Cup knockout games.😂 He's only had ONE standout international tournament in his career, where he was only able to score in 2 games out of 7, against the mighty Hungary and Wales. His side also won their hardest game without him in the final. The guy also has 0 World Cup knockout goals and assists. 🤦♂Outside of his fan base he will never be seen as the greatest. Cristiano's fans like to try and paint this picture that he's played for a weak footballing nation, which isn't true. His first international tournament was were he had the likes of Figo, Deco, Maniche, Rui Costa, Couto, etc. His side also were able to make a World Cup Semi final in 2006, with only one goal (a penalty) and 0 assists in 6 of the games he played. At the 2010 World Cup Portugal only narrowly to a prime Spain. The same goes for when they lots on pens in the Semi Final at Euro 2012. Ronaldo also cost them by not taking a penalty. The only fairly weak team he's played in was at the World Cup in 2014. Oh, and he's had a lot of quality around him at the last World Cup and two Euro's, yet didn't score or assist a knockout goal in that time. 🤦♂
Saying he won the battle against Messi at club level is an utter joke. Messi not only has more club trophies but has won 12 league titles to Ronaldo's 7. He won 6 European golden shoes to Ronaldo's 4. He outshone him in La Liga with more goals, assists, league titles and top scorer awards. Doing it in different league does not make him superior, considering the facts show he's achieved less overall. The only aspect where CR7 is ahead was the UCL. And in terms of his extra CL it's completely outshone by Messi's success at the World Cup. 👍
@@JuanSeba90 🤣this amount of yap should not be possible on here. But just needed to read last whole paragraph💀.
It’s common knowledge club football has surpassed international. They play, train much more & have all the best coaches &’players competing every year. It’s not the 1900s anymore & World Cup can’t compete in terms of quality. It is still the biggest tournament in the world but it’s not the peak of football. If u don’t understand this there’s no argument to be had. Ronaldo is the goat of the peak competition in modern football & no amount of past prime trophies Messi’s wins will change that. Individually winning wc with a record breaking amount of pens & winning copa like he did, 5 copa finals & 0 goals 0 assists, just seems irrelevant in comparison to all he achieved in his prime.
Touch grass kid & watch more football. U should be celebrating Argentinas win not coping about how Messi flopped🤣🤣🤣
2018 France team is not in any conversation for best International side 😂
because it's not that good in comparison
@@tallybanner exactly 🤷
They'd beat ANY side in the history of football, though.
@@omardevonlittle3817 would they? 🤷
They don't have the numbers to be in that conversation mate.
@@paulharrington2867Still better than Argentina 2022
This Argentina team don't have Xavi or Iniesta but they have Messi and that's all that's needed. They didn't dominate like Spain or Brazil but this team know how to suffer and get the win. They are all fighters and plays for the team. That is what was missing in the past and now it's solved and they won multiple tournaments. And ofcourse they have the GOAT. Everyone tries to prove themselves infront of Messi and they are ready to die for him and for the team. One Messi is enough to fight all those legendary teams from the past and the results prove that too.
Nope. I don't see that much legendary team. One thing u said is right Argentinia team are well synced with Messi. They have creative control to Messi solving his weakness of pressing. Doubt if there was multiple great team Argentina would survive
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t they destroyed Netherlands and France. Only because they slack d off they'd why they came back.
They were definitely not boasting with the best team infact it was of a unknown players untill the copa. But they had a certain Messi.
@@itsreza I dont think Argentinia would survive if there was tough World Cup teams. Messi if not for penalties and advantages is average player under pressure. Then the big negative is if Messi plays bad or went under pressure all team go bad because they play around him adjusting Messi's strength. The team was great. Both Copa finals Messi did nothing they won. Messi was not the factor it was team and there strategy was to sync with Messi and play well exploiting his creativity. Also they went against French team with a poor Griezman,, that's a luck
Argentina has won 4 straight major international title, nobody plays as hard and chemistry like this squad , greatest of all time messi along with greatest international team ever assembled and that is 100% facts
how come noone is calling out the handball by colombia, that was not only clear and obvious but all potential for goal denying... that could have easily been called a lot more than the foul by McCallister.
True! It’s cheap propaganda to make Argentina look bad
This Argentina side just did what Spanish team did so
If you put That Spanish team first then kindly place Argentina team second
You can hate them but what they have done in the past few years speaks for itself
Makes me wonder that Messis international career what have been like had he played for Spain. 2 world cups maybe? 🤯
@@xrpedrosay it again
@@xrpedroSpain went out in the group stages and RO16 in every other WC post 2010. I don't Messi's international career would've been all that better had he chosen Spain.
@@tomasmaniago5832 it’s a hypothetical anyway.
copa américa is far easier no one takes it serious sadly so no france and spain are far better only argentinians take copa américa serious
It’s a real joy to see Argentina winning everything after fourteen years of watching them through a lot of heartache. It’s an amazing feeling as a fan.
I completely agree that Messi will leave the team when it’s the right time. That’s the kind of player he is.
I was cracking up At 7:38 when Herc said Cr7 was holding portugal hostage 😂
Herc picked Colombia over Argentina before the final and now he is picking Argentina over Spain. Good riddance lol
Argentina has always had an abundance of attacking talent. So I am inclined to say it is the stalwart defensive capability that makes this team so successful. But even that would not true, as the team with Zanetti, Ayala, Walter Samuel, Simeone, Cambiasso, Mascherano surely were no worse in terms of defensive talents. May be it is just the goalkeeper that makes a huge difference. Honestly without Emi Martinez's penalty shootout successes, they would not win any of these tournaments (and thus would not even have played the Finalissima).
Props to Argentina but I can’t rate them as high due to them being “the last” of the generation most of us grew up watching to win something. In other words most other great teams this generations players are either retired already, or aren’t in their peak anymore. There isn’t any competition nowadays because the greats are gone. Sure there are still lots of good players, but they are young and rising and Argentinas experience will always beat them.
2026 Argentina should still be very good, even though Messi will have a minimal impact by then. Their squad is both deep and not all that old.
Messi's power has already waned. They could have won this tourney without him. They're still going to be strong going forward.
What nonsense
Argentina! From Oceania with Love...
put them up there with Spain that went back to back to back
What are you talking about did you even watch Spain back then??? Spain played 1000 times better than Argentina now
But Spain despite dominating with their famous Tiki taka game they struggled to score goals.Their wins were mostly 1-0 narrow margin wins.
@@desmondachocky537 they beat Italy 4-0 without a striker you make 0 sense whatsoever
The GOAT and his 45th.
Most in history!
Why does the Finalissima seem to be getting more hype than the FIFA Confederations Cup used to?
Because until now, only South American and European teams have won WC. Finalisima is a match between South American and European Champions involving a Trophy.
@@labeebulshah8424 You're missing my point. The Confederations Cup had all the continental winners and the last WC winner.
If we consider the Confederations Cup then it hurts Spain's claim to be the greatest since they were eliminated in both of their runs. In the first Confederations Cup, Prime Spain got knocked out by the USA, 0-2.
You people only give credit to Messi. Do not forget Di Maria. One of the greatest wingers of all time. Incredible big-match player. If he had played the 2014 final, very likely Argentina would have been champions, no matter how sharp Higuain was on the day. Argentina will also be without Di Maria in 2026, which will make a huge difference.
Leo Messi single-handedly destroyed that prime Spain🇪🇸 in 2010/09/08👍
Friendly??
Messi played beautiful attacking football with Barcelona for years since his youth days. Messi became unstoppable under Pep with Tiki taka style.
But for Argentina he willing to throw his pride and change his style of play to help his team. He know Argentina is not Spain. He need to be the playmaker.
Other Argentina players sees that and that's why they willing to work hard to help Messi. When Messi injured they became more determined to win that game.
Unfortunately that's not the case for Ronaldo in Portugal.
7:37 Pendu got roasted...🤣🤣🤣🐪🐪🐪
We are making it to; 2 Copa Americas,2 finalissima trophies ,2 world cups,9th Ballon d'or. Just watch the GOAT doing what he does best❤
Anulo mufa
Messi has played 7 fanals with Argentina. The most in history
and only 1 goal from open play. 5 copa finals with 0 goals and 0 assits. messi cant stop breaking records
@@BORGES1810 Maradona never scored in an international final, yet apparently carried Argentina to a World Cup... He also never scored a single Copa America goal in 12 games. CR also is claimed to be the most clutch player ever by some, yet hasn't scored or assisted in an international final or a single World Cup KO game. The reality is Messi has scored 2 goals in a World Cup Final, which eclipses the importance of any goal CR has scored.
@@Gfresh844 🤣🤣🤣a tap in & penalty is what YOU use to compare to the great Maradona & Ronaldo💀 how can u compare Ronaldo who plays for Portugal? They’ve only been to 3 finals ever & Ronaldo has played all 3. That’s far more impressive than flopping in 7/8 finals for ur country like Messi. Prime Messi was at Barca, just like prime maradona was at Argentina. We don’t compare maradona from Barca to Messi at Barca. U compare the players at peak. Messi winning getting carried by penalties & playing Canada twice in copa just isn’t impressive kid
@@BORGES1810 That's such a ridiculous response... The fact is the World Cup Final is the biggest game in football, and Messi was able to score in that game. Not to mention, those type of goals have as much value as any other goal. If CR scored those goals (which are the kind of goals he's scored a number of times) there is no way you would diminish them. Also, there is no guarantee of scoring a penalty. Taking one under that kind of pressure is anything but simple. Lets not forget CR missed one against Slovenia at the Euro's.
And how is making less finals, while doing nothing in all 3 more impressive?? You say Messi flopped in 7 out of 8, yet CR flopped in all 3 by your logic. Making less finals means Ronaldo simply flopped at an earlier stage... Not to mention, Messi assisted 2 in one of those 8; so saying he flopped in 7 out of 8 isn't true.
Also, since when was this a comparison about just their primes?? You were the one who talked about Messi not scoring or assisting in 5 Copa America finals; when 3 of those finals were with him not in his prime. And the fact he was able to do what he did at the 2021 Copa and 2022 World Cup, at an age where he was no longer in his prime just adds to his legacy, whether you like it or not.
@@Gfresh844 holy yap. Ok, World Cup is the biggest event in the world due to its scope, tradition & history but it is not the highest level of football anymore. This should be common knowledge it isn’t the 1900s anymore. If you average the fifa rankings of teams needed to win euros, World Cup & copa they would be 13 euro, 21 World Cup & 33 copa. Ultimately my original point, winning copa & wc(most penalties ever) with Argentina, the most decorated nation, at 34yrs old+ isn’t impressive in comparison to prime Messi at Barca.
I agree with the Argentina 🇦🇷 team being tested ffs to cone out of that World Cup final as tge victor after being ripped off from their dreams by that absolute monster performance that Mbappe pulled and be strong mentally....this team is unfazed they get behind vs Ecuador or face array of attacks from Colombia ..it didn't faze them a bit ...they are mentality monsters ..imagine having paredes Dibu de paul licha and Cuti and otamendi they would go down swinging even if they do
I'd say back-to-back European Championships trumps back-to-back Copas. Also in a hypothetical match it's hard to say this Argentina side would beat the great Spain side. Spain would control the game and let's not forget the abundance of talent in their side.
Lol right
No, Argantina 1986 WC team is the best Argantine international team of all time, won the copmetetion without losing a single match, won 6 and drawn 1, didn't score any penalty kick throwout the competition, didn't need extra time in any match, didn't win in penalty shootout wins in any game, won against all previous WC winners at that time with exception of Brazil, Maradona was on fire above any single player in history, scored goals in every way from open play, the whole team was imaginative and stylish.
Lol argentina had bttr teams in 78,82,94,98,02,06😅😅😅
Yet by your criteria that draw means they statistically weren't the best, given Brazil in 1970 were able to win 6 out of 6, while Brazil in 2002 were able to win 7 out of 7; with no extra time either. Also, you say Argentina didn't get a single penalty, yet Maradona scored a goal with his hand. Therefore, had that not happened then there's no way of knowing if they would have beat England. Not to mention, the true marker of greatness has to also include a certain amount of longevity, which they were unable to manage at the Copa America in 1987, where they were eliminated in the Semi's.
That 86 team would lose to any bottom of the table premier league team.The game has evolved.
Imo Spains 08-12 team is better than this Argentina time. Towards the end of this video they talk about lady luck and how you need it on your side to win games which is 100% true. That Spain team imo relied on Lady luck far less then most of the elite National teams that were mentioned in this video. They had a major called go against them with De Jong kicking Xabi Alonso straight in the chest in the WC final, which still blows my mind how it's not a red card. They dominated teams while playing good tiki taka.
I don't win by dominating the matches, I win by being solid and having the luck of a champion. He had several moments in which he could almost be eliminated but he had the necessary fortune. Against Paraguay, in the 2010 World Cup, they suffered a lot and were close to being eliminated, for example. Tiki taka was Barcelona, not Spain
This Argentina team is teaching us that commitment is paramount if you want to win a match. They don't have the names, but collectively, every team member of the squad, whether coming from the bench or in the starting lineup, is totally and fully ready to run and play his sweat and blood out with passion and, you can see they're addicted to winning now. Imagine going through an entire tournament without coinciding a single goal.
Brasil had an incredible run when they were 94 world cup champions , 98 world cup runner up,2002 world cup champions,2004 Copa America champions and 2007 Copa America champions.
I think that's the greatest run of all time.
I'm Argentinian but I have to be objective.
Come, even I know 94 brazil, 200 brazil and 2007 brazil are 3 totally different teams. And 2008-2012 Spain, 2021-2024 Argentina are roughly a same team, especially Argentina.
@@weihuatang171 I get your point. I know it was not the same team in 1994 that in 2004 or 2007. But Brazil dominated football for like 10 years. That was my point.
@@g.t.werber4476 Brazil is the biggest name in football everyone agrees, most super star, most world cup. But when it comes to a specific team, Spain and this Argentina should be part of the conversion.
@@weihuatang171 yeah . For sure
@@g.t.werber4476Brazil also won Copa America titles in 1997 and 1999.
In the last 20 years argentina played these finals
American cup 2004
Confederations cup 2005
American cup 2007
World cup 2014
American cup 2015
American cup 2016
American cup 2021
World cup 2022
American cup 2024
Argentina: 2014 runner up of World cup
2015 runner up of Copa America
2016 runner up of CA
2018 eliminated by Champion in WC
2019 eliminated by champion in CA
2021 champion of CA
2022 champion of finalissima against current champion of Europe
2022 champion of WC (final with the current champion and semifinal against the current vice champion)
2024 champion of CA (against 22 invictus game Colombia that defeated the european champion, Spain, a month before)
Seriously there are negative comments about argentina?
Is there any doubt about the quality of this team and argentine football in general?
the way argentina bounced back after the saudi loss... the way argentina held their nerve against france... the way argentina prevented brazil and colombia from scoring... i think in the battle of wits between scaloni and fuente, the argentine does a better display of homework....
The irony is these pundits have won nothing in their lifetime 😂😂
Right?😂😂😂 underachieved, jealous, mediocre player and now mediocre “pundits”.
Jealousy can be so tragic 😂😂
if thats the case 99% of people in the world shouldn’t even say anything that isn’t positive because by that logic they/we aren’t authorized.
@@rouen1111 The point is its very difficult to be among that 1% and that 1% will never be bothered by the negative/positive opinions of the remaining 99%....in other words its easy to bark then to achieve something and be among that 1% 😊😊
As much as I love Messi and seeing him win these titles have been amazing. The best team OAT is either a Brazil or Spain team. This Argentina team will be remembered as Messi’s team whereas the others there was a host of great players.
We love Messi 🇦🇷🇧🇩
Ecuador was on the “easy side of the bracket” but did qualified to Qatar 2022. Colombia watched the WC on TV.
I think 2 things are true:
(I) Finalissima 2025 will be a great game.
(II) Argentina are the best team in the world right now according to rankings.
My favorite part? The story of Messi and Yamal will have its happy ending, if they play.
Not just the G.O.A.T.... THE G.O.A.T. BY MILES AHEAD THAN ANYONE. All the rest footballers can see Messi ONLY WITH BINOCULARS
Why are you not mentioning that Argentina also won the Finalissima vs Italy ???? That’s 4 major international titles 🇦🇷⭐️⭐️⭐️
Exactly to get to finalissima you have to concour Europe and South America to get there....
Imo if Messi does make it to the 2026 World Cup, he’ll most likely be a bench player that comes on if they need creativity or a deadly shot striker.
Messi isn’t afraid to come off the bench, or rest, he knows that if he can’t go on, he’ll get off, he’ll cry about not being able to help his team and help his country, but he’ll get off.
Argentina going into the 2026 World Cup will have an amazingly strong team all around, I mean it seems like their attack is in good hands, and in two years they could have even more players, their mid field is strong, and their defence is also strong, goal keeper is good.
They definitely won’t be the favourite (most likely Spain or France) but they easily could get to the final again. Two years is a long time in football, and who knows if they’ll get another dybala (who seemed to just pop out of nowhere back in 2015)
Their team is very strong, they have chemistry, and they have grit. They are more likely to make it to a final than the Netherlands or Belgium are even if Messi retires.
MESSI👑🐐♾️ is the Greatest Champion of the Universe 👽🌎🌍🌏⚽
👑⚽️🌍👑Pele 3 world cup ⭐⭐⭐🇧🇷👍
The Latino guy is an Argentina hater!!
Argentina has dominated world soccer for the last 10 years. 7 finals!!! 4 championship
Uncapable to give a solid compliment to Argentina, there's always another bigger international team...
You want to know which team is better, look at the shields of Argentina and Spain, who has more stars on their shield? Do you want to know who is better? Who had Kempes in '78, who had Maradona in '86, who had Messi in 2022?
Exactly, Argentina has played 6 world cup finals. Lost 3 and won 3. Spain has only played 1 final, the one they won 2010.
Why are discussing it? Messi has been the greatest of all time from a long time. There is no debate
Argentina is the greatest TEAM in the history beacause they have won four titels in a row.
The best TEAM in the history ONLY level is Spain TEAM 2008 to 2012.
Since 2014 how many finals Argentina reach? By my count it's 7. Which other team have been to that many finals in 10 years? They're the most successful team in the last ten years. Just reaching a final alone is a major achievement because many have never reach that far. Plus Argentina have a player who picked up so many awards in international tournaments
Messi is the greatest soccer player of all time. And when he will retire I don't think Argentina will have any problem because mastermind scaloni have some other plans
😂😂😂😂 everyone saying and complaining that Argentina was gifted all the cups is completely comedy 😂yes they went to penalties but it’s harder to win n penalties than it is scoring n regulation time most of everyone complaining is just straight out haters
Argentina x Messi is the greatest international team ever, 8 finals, u20, olympics, 2 copa america, 1 finalissma, 1 world cup…. Name international team x player that have achieved this
Best team in the world
Vamos Argentina 🇦🇷
The top four teams of the last 30 years has been Argentina, Brazil, Germany and France. These 4 teams have 3-4 world cup final appearances in the last 30 years. Germany has 3 Euro final appearances in the last 30 years and France has 2. Spain and Italy are tied for most Euro final appearances in the last 30 years with Spain winning 3 and Italy winning 1. Both do not have many world cup finals in the last 30 years or runner up finishes. Argentina has won 4 Copa America cups since 1990 and was runner up 4 other times. Brazil has won 5 Copa America cups since 1990 and has been runner up for 4 more. These are without doubt the greatest teams in the world for the last 30 years.
@@dariusp257 you've misunderstood the point here buddy
Yea, they're talking about a team with the same group of players...not a country's history.
Yeah, if you include the two World Cups they won before Messi, I'd say the entire 20 year Messi era makes Argentina the greatest international squad of all time. Simply because they were in so many finals. Even if they haven't WON all of them.
Copa final, i dont think people who knows take it as achievement??? Noway. WC 2 final and a victory yess
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t Of course it's an achievement, especially winning it as they did in 2021 on Brazilian soil. Also, beating Colombia at this tournament was obviously no easy task, given this was a side who were undefeated in 28 games.
@@Gfresh844 Winning is an achievement . Reaching final Not.
Save BANGLADESHI students 🇧🇩😢
Greatest international team of all time no doubt about it they have won it all🇦🇷🏆🇦🇷🏆🇦🇷🏆🇦🇷🏆
Brazil '58-'70 - 3/4 World Cups won
Spain '08-'12 - 1 World Cup and 2 Euros (3 titles in a row)
West Germany '70-'76 1 World Cup and 1 third place, 1 Euros win and runner-up
Brazil '94-'02 - 2 World Cups, 1 runner-up
@@dj71162 France 1998 - 2000 1 world cup and 1 euros.. 2 tournaments in a row.
Argentina 2020-2024 2 Copa America's and 1 World Cup.. Unbeaten for however many games
I think that's the full list. Pick your favourite from those 6
Argentina won 1 World Cup and 2 Euros
Equivalent to Spain’s run so they are definitely up there as one of the best NT
Plus they lost less match than they won trophies
@@JackSparrow-qm1lw No it's not they rigged both the WC in 2022 and Copa America 2024.
@@paulharrington2867 you should add 2014 2nd place in wc and 2015 and 2016 copa américa 2nd place to the list
Argentina best
ESPN seems to forget that Spain in the 2010 WC could have lost if Íker didn’t manage to block Robben’s shot. Enough with the what ifs
Same goes for Argentina had Dibu not saved the last kick
@@hairlikewool.1435Argentina was up 2-0 they should’ve never even gone there they dominated for 78 mins literally it was fluke comeback
Brasil 5,Germany4,Italy4,The rest is BS
Maybe most racist team off all time
??? What do you mean
@@renzo.2024I refuse to respond to these stupid comments, so should you. Don't add fuel to the stupidity.
He means that Argentina doesn't have any deep colour players @@renzo.2024
We call that "moving goalposts", folks. Always a different standard for Argentina so that it's never good enough. Just stop, show some respect for a level of success that you can only dream of for your teams.
Messi beat thst spain team he score 4
Who cares friendly. He beat them in WC???
@@user-bi5nw4vp6tI'm asking the same question 🤷
Brazil 90’s-2000’s,
Argentina are better!! More defensive! 2026 winners! (Messi was ff the bench, Martinez and Alvarez starting!!)
I think people are not watching the speed and energy in COPA AMERICA, EURO seems slow in comparison with copa america
Greatest International Teams of All Time (For Varouis Reasons: Winning Titles/Style of Play/ Reaching Finals/Back to Back Honours/Having a Mark in History/Etc..):
-Italy 1934-1938.
-Hungary 1950-1954.
-Brazil late 50's early 60's.
-England 1966-1970.
-Brazil 1970.
-West Germany 1972-1976.
-Holland 1974-1978.
-Poland 1974-1982.
-West Germany 1980-1986.
-Italy 1982.
-France 1982-1986.
-Denmark 1986.
-USSR 1982-1988.
-Argantina 1986-1990.
-Holland 1988.
-Denmark 1992.
-Italy 1990-2000.
-West Germany 1990-1996.
-France 1998-2006.
-Brazil 1994-2006.
-Greece 2004.
-Portugal 2000-2006.
-Spain 2008-2012.
-Germany 2010-2014.
-Portugal 2016.
-France 2016-2022.
-Argantina 2021-2024.