Was Bobby Orr The Greatest Ever? Mike Milbury Joined Spittin' Chiclets To Discuss
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- Mike Milbury joined Spittin' Chiclets to discuss all things Bobby Orr.
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Bobby Clarke said at the '76 Canada Cup, everybody knew Bobby was at the end, knees totally shot, and barely practiced, couldn't move, just a wreck. Then he got on the ice for the games and was the best player on the ice by a mile. Truly, a once-in-a-generation talent.
NO ONCE IN A FEW LIFE TIMES
Not true--- Denis Potvin was actually the better player of that series but Bobby Orr was still very good.
@@TheHojirt potvin was good in that series as well so you could make that argument about who was better but in my opinion the best player overall was perreault i know he is a forward though
Dennis potvin;couldn't skate as well,shoot the puck as well or make people around him better.the only thing potvin did better was hurting smaller Swedish players with cheap shots
@@TheHojirtWrong. Watch the games. Stop lying.
He was very special in many ways even off the ice. He made all of Canada so proud.
Even habs fans?
He made the entire Boston area proud as well.
Orr was the definition of a complete hockey player. Simply the OG goat who changed the game of hockey forever ❤✊️
Had the puck on a string every time he stepped foot on the ice.
Mr. Hockey admitted that Bobby was the best player he ever seen.
They all said he didn't belong in the NHL bc he was too good!
Bobby Orr changed hockey like the Beatles changed the music. Habs fan since the 60s being québécois, I’ve seen a lot of hockey, I believe Bobby Orr was the best offensive defense ever. The way he played, his speed and his abilities, vision on ice as a defenseman changed the game. Larry Robinson would be with Orr on my #1 all-star dream defense pair. Hate the Bruins but love Bobby Orr.
Serge Savard said it best, "You have the NHL and Bobby Orr...He is a league of his own."
serge savard never said that einstein
He was absolutely right.
Clarkie #16 @@joebutcallmejoey8869
When Bobby was nearing the end of his career with knee issues, a teammate from team Canada said he was better on one leg than everyone else on two. True!! He could set the tone and pace of a game and made everyone around him better. GOAT.
And that teammate was Bobby Hull !
Bobby Orr revolutionized the game from behind as a defenseman like none before him, he invented the offensive defenseman category. He had many tools in his arsenal; scoring, assisting, body checking, puck control, killing penalty and quarterbacking power plays, fighting and minutes on the ice during crucial times of the game along with being one of the fastest and quickest skaters that ever played. He was a leader by example and by effort on very bad knees; he played with an unequaled courage not exhibited by many athletes in any sport.
I consider Orr the GOAT! He was just so dominant in his era! Too bad he had to retire at age 30.
And too bad he endorsed Trump.
Countless many 'too bads' have been uttered over the years some rational and others purely subjective. Your 'too bad' here is a rational 'too bad' - a properly good 'too bad'.
Yes for hockey fans it's too bad Orr's exceptionally superb carreer ended much too early especially above all for Orr himself. What wasn't too bad though were the years provided that fans did get to see too short that those years were.
Too bad he supports trump
@@genem9725Clint and creepy Joe are where you are at? lol
Think he was 28
Bobby Orr is the original goat
Not really?! Howe easily had a better career before Gretzky showed up! Most talented is one thing, the GOAT makes you high !!
Orr as a d-man yes
@@MrMac-zk5tv Every actual hockey player knows Orr is the GOAT
@@charlisantini3403 nope that’s Gretzky what he did and the numbers he put up was ridiculous and unheard of
@@JefferyKarros-ef2rs Just remember, during their primes Mario had a better PPG average, and was well on his way to destroying the single season point total until he left to battel cancer. Your entire notion that stats, and stats alone should determine who the best is, is destroyed by the fact that had Mario remained healthy (not to mention had he played his prime in the same high scoring era as Gretzky), would have owned every scoring record out there.
I remember a story about an opposing coach bringing an extra puck to a game so his players would have something to play with while Bobby Orr had the game puck.
i started going to bruins games as a young teenager when they were cellar dwellers and pre- bobby orr. we heard some new guy was coming up soon and then he hit town and the bruins made some good trades and it put boston hockey into the stratesphere. great old rime hockey, the big bad bruins and bobby orr had a great run. we enjoyed mike milbury and his era too.
I am a Cambridge guy and grew up with the Big Bad Bruins and Orr was simply the best player I've ever seen. My dad used to play tennis with the late Ace Bailey who died on 9/11.
Oh my God is this actually a question? Of course he's the greatest ever there's no doubt about that at all.
That's how an old school doctor straightened my broken nose . He is right it makes you cry . Spent a week in the hospital after that because he cut open a blood vessel .
Gretzky is the greatest scorer of all time but Orr is the greatest hockey player of all time.
And along with Gordie Howe. Gretzky said so himself
Orr would probably be In the AHL if he played in todays game. Players are 10x better now. Gretzky was way better. Not even close.
@@JefferyKarros-ef2rs Funny. Is that you Felger?
@@JefferyKarros-ef2rs LOL. Gretzky would have never made it to the NHL if he didn't land on a stack Oilers team in a watered down NHL in the 80's.
@@charlisantini3403 lmao you’re on drugs
As a lifelong Blackhawks fan I gained my respect for Bobby as a Bruin. He never looked looked right in a Blackhawks sweater.
Best line I heard was from Don Cherry on radio. 5 Bobby Orrs against any other 5? 'Nuff said.
I remember one day my brother went to hockey practice-just another practice-and the coach said they had a special guest. It was Bobby Orr. On one play he picked my brother up and skated the length of the ice with him under his arm. What a class act. Bless his soul! Bobby, I mean. And my brother, of course...
I’ll always remember this being a great Chicago Blackhawk. I want to rile up to Bruins fans.
“Did everyone know how good Bobby was?” “I got in a fight…” 🤣🤣🤣
I saw IN PERSON
Gretzky Lemu Richard Hull Howe SORRY BOBBY OR WAS AND STILL IS THE GOAT
You sumed it up the best
my grandma baby sat bobby orr in parry sound a very long time ago
There are very few special players in the league Bobby Orr was one. Gretzky was another both lived in a different era I grew up watching all those special players. I’ll never forget them and will carry those memories to my grave
I'd vote for Bobby as the best, every time.
Didn't Don Cherry play almost all of his career in the American Hockey league. Tough guy
I started playing hockey when he won the cup . I’m still playing go knights and B s
Bobby Orr hands down, the G.O.A.T.
Elected to the NHL Hall of Fame at 31 years of age .. Pretty much says it all
For 7 years he averaged 33 goals per season. Legends like Bourque, Robinson, Murphy never even netted a 33 season. Coffey had the great 5 year run with Gretzky and Messier is the only thing close.
Howe and Scotty Bowman have said that Orr was the goat. One stat in his favor is that his plus/minus per game is the highest in hockey by far.
I like Milbury
Fell down skating out to center ice before an All-star game.
Bobby Orr is the GOAT no question imagine if he played on two Good knees
Imagine if 66 never got cancer or hurt his back.
only 1 player ever played with both Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky...Bobby Schmotz. I quote "Bobby was a target in every game Gretzky was protected". Players like Dave Semenko and Marty Mcsorley kept the flies off, whereas Bobby fought his own fights...47 fights in his career. Orr - the best!
Imagine having Negrodamus as your club president. Wild.
In one word yes he was the greatest and moat of his career he had bad knees
Yes he was!
Did he talk about Bobby Orr being the greatest ever? I thought that’s the subject of this. Yeah he said good things about him.
Orr would've looked great in a Canadians uniform.
no one is even close
How in the fuck did Biz end up with a bunch of Massholes?! :D
wait till my son hits the league
I know a lot of people think Howe was the greatest ever, maybe because I’m 43 so I don’t know a whole lot of people old enough to have seen him (Howe) play in his prime, but everyone I’ve ever spoken to thinks the greatest ever was Orr, Gretzky or Lemieux and though I know a lot of people who say “I’d like to see what Lemieux would have done if he didn’t have the back problems and the cancer”, I’ve only ever met one guy who said he felt Lemieux was the best, everyone else I’ve ever spoken to thinks it’s either Orr or Gretzky.
Very little about Bobby Orr in that answer 😅
YES !! 0:18
Bobby Orr was the greatest. Mike "the Policeman" Milbury was the most aggressive and hardest hitting defense man is NHL history.
No the defenseman who was the toughest physically would probably be Doug Harvey Mike Milbury was a stiff as a defenseman he was average at best
Nothing wrong with liking Milbury or being a fan, but come on. He's not the greatest at anything by a light year.
@@stevej1910 Not true... no one could hit a spectator with his own shoe like Milbury could!
@@fleatactical7390 Point immediately conceeded. :D
@@stevej1910 LOL
Larry robinson in my opinion was the most complete defenseman of all time. Physical, offensive, defensive , leader etc. +722. All time highest
Robinson was great, but his plus minus of +722 was in 1384 games for a .5216 per game average. Orr was +582 in 657 games for a .8858 per game average. No one is even close to Orr in plus/minus per game average.
Also he beat up Dave Schultz.
Silly question.
1) it's impossible to factually answer that question.
2) he was an amazing player in numerous ways.
But what difference does it make if he was 'best' or not?
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If hockey is unimportant it doesn't make a difference. Does it make a difference if you have the best doctor in the world? The best accountant or dentist? The best poet or artist? If you like something it does matter.
@rickrick5041 Alright. Exactly what does it matter who was the best player?
How does it make someone's life measureably better?
And it is impossible to make such a determination.
It is a silly question.
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@@McRocket It may be impossible to say who is the best player ever but you may be able to say who is the best today. What chess player has the highest rating? What hockey player or baseball player has the best stats? It may be close but if one player is far ahead of all the rest that’s it. Does it matter? If you love hockey then yes.
so was Orr the best ever?
ORR=GOAT 🐐 Wayne who?...
I love Orr. He was the best ever except maybe ... Also, everyone forgets Doug Harvey.
What hurt Doug Harvey was his abrasive personality. Like, Terry Sawchuk, he was not easy to get along with.
@@roberteaston6413 He got along great with the players. He didn’t want to keep being coach because he missed going with the players to drink. From the internet: He was a controversial figure, not liked by hockey management as he was instrumental in the formation of the first players union. The Canadiens gladly let him go to the Rangers as player-coach in 1961, widely believed because of his unionization efforts. It’s obvious there was an issue, as the Habs did not retire his number until 1985, 12 years after he made it into the Hall of Fame. The Canadiens retired the jerseys of Jean Beliveau, Maurice Richard and Guy Lafleur the same years that they stopped playing.
@@rickrick5041 One man criticized him for dragging out his pro career. He played for the Saint Louis Blues when expansion came along. That was fair enough because other players did too. But then when he could no longer play in the NHL he played for the Blues farm team. Then he played senior hockey in Quebec. Some saw this as his love for hockey while others saw this as a sad spectacle. When he was told that he was going to the HHOF he said that he would not attend the ceremony but would probably go fishing. Later he was said to be wandering the streets of Montreal and sleeping in railway cars. A sad way to go.
@@roberteaston6413 He went fishing because he should have been inducted the previous year with other players. It was a huge insult. He was still great when he left Montreal.
He was very well liked. “Prior to the 1960-61 season Harvey was voted captain of the Canadiens by his teammates. This was not welcomed by team management, who were not happy with Harvey's actions on and off the ice.” (He and Lindsey formed a players union)
He won another Norris trophy after Montreal got rid of him.
Yeah he played in the minors too, Detroit sent him down for being 20 lb overweight and out of shape but for his last year he played a full season in the NHL when he was 44.
He had a drinking problem. He was always a great player and would be the best defenceman in the NHL even when sent to the minors. When Orr played in the expansion NHL many players would not have made the team when Harvey played. These were the best 2 defensemen ever. Harvey may be the GOAT.
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Yes. Take McDavid and Crosby and merge them with shitty skates shitty sticks and no conditioning. Orr was the greatest
Orr is the Best--Milbury is the Worst.
Orr was great, I have him above Gretzky, #1 is Mario. Both Gretzky and Orr started in a league with 6 NEW TEAMS IN THE DILUTED LEAGUE
Today every NHL game is on film. That was not true in the 1960's; especially in American cities that did not have a hockey tradition such as Los Angeles or Oakland. Sadly some of Orr's greatest plays are lost to us. Gretzky knew how to handle fame whereas Mario did not. He was a private person who did not love the game the way #99 did.
Seems to me that the fewer the teams, the less diluted the league is. Orr was in a 12 team league for a great deal of his career, Mario started in a league with 21 teams.
2nd best dman to ever do it!
😂ok bud
That’s why u a waterboy…
literally who
bait lol
gaaatoraaaaaade.
I wouldn't listen to Milbury talk about cow tipping, POS player, manager, and commentator! bye
What's there to discuss? Bobby Orr was the greatest player ever. Mike Milbury was the worst GM ever.
Funny, I don't think Orr is in the top ten ,defenseman scoring of all time but everyone knows he have to be the second greatest player of all time
He's the best, and if you knew something about hockey, you would understand why Orr isn't the top scorer. all time. Because he was on pace to be
but he has the highest point pee game by far of any D in history. There isn't a D even close.
Orr endorsed Trump for POTUS.
I grew up in a suburb of Boston and idolized #4. After his endorsement, I took him off my list of heroes.
Good for him Trump 2024 all aboard the Trump Train 🚆
Good for Orr and Trump, both great guys. Too bad for you.
Your egnorant
1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% A G R E E with you!!
Loser
as all around D man playing D physicality and playing offense denis potvin is the greatest D man of all time
Potvin best season 101 points Bobby Orr best season 135 points. Potvin won 3 Norris trophies Orr won 8 Norris trophies. Potvin played 15 seasons. Bobby Orr played 12 years. Over the course of Bobby Orr career he had 17 knee surgery.
even potvin said orr was the goat. you are nuts.
Gretzky is the greatest to ever do it. Still is for now.
Gretzky was good but Orr was better.
@@mckessa17 statistically no!
@@JefferyKarros-ef2rs Sad that you think hockey is all about stats. Orr is the best ever, followed by Mario, then Gordie.
@@charlisantini3403 Orr wouldn’t even be on a 4th line in todays game bro but whatever you say lmao
@@JefferyKarros-ef2rs LOL. Well, considering Orr is a defenceman, I will agree that he wouldn't be a 4th liner. He wouldn't be a starting goalie either. You are literally so ignorant, you don't even know what position Bobby Orr played
Nobody dominated their time like Gretzky
Four 200 point seasons
Who else did this ?
Nobody
The man was winning scoring titles by 60 points
Sorry you guys may not like it but this isn’t even a debate
Gretzky is the GOAT
In 1993, Mario Lemieux was on pace to crush the 200pts plateau, while playing in a much lower scoring ear.
Simple fact is, had Gretzky played in a different time, or on a different team, or got treated the same way other players were, you wouldn't know the difference in his point total then what his brother had. Easily the most over rated player ever. Less than 2 season after Gretzky ran away to LA, the Oilers won another Cup (they lost to Calgary the year before, who went on to win the Cup).
@@charlisantini3403
Yes the league changed so much in 3 seasons
Gretzky 215 in 85/86
Mario 199 in 88/89
Really so much harder to score in 93 why ? Did the rules change ? As far as I know they didn’t
Still if it was so much easier to score when Gretzky was in his prime why didn’t anyone come close to him
Dude you’re fooling yourself
Wow Oilers won a cup after he left really ?
The team was still loaded
Love Mario for me he’s #2 but staying healthy counts
@@rethink62 The fact that you think the league was the same in the mid 80's as it was in the late 80's to early 90's is proof you aren't knowledgeable enough to have this conversation. The Oilers were a championship team without Wayne Gretzky. That fact alone is proof he is overrated
@@charlisantini3403
Please tell me did they start calling interference more in the 90 ‘s like they did after the lockout ? Did any rules change ?
If they did let me know
Even if the game was different in the 80’s tell me again who was close to Gretzky in scoring
It was so easy somebody had to be close
Who ?
Dude you know shit but you are pretty dense
While he was winning the scoring title, did he ever win the best defenceman award? Did he ever win it 8 years in a row? And while demolishing scoring records? Gretzky was great...no question...but he was great one way. Not Bobby...
Bobby is is the greatest ever ON THE ICE, however i question his strong support for trump
Yes one of the greatest ever ON THE ICE, but once he took a full page ad in a major US newspaper endorsing donald trump he went from hero to zero
Best ever to lace skates no debate no great one no shit. In that era scoring 100 plus as defenseman the Gretzky etc didn’t play in the era. They would have never had the space. Back then they would have hammered them hard. Not like the you can’t touch me in a star era
BOBBY ORR IS THE GREATEST HOCKEY PLAYER OF ALL TIME
There is Bobby Orr and then there's the rest.