Mike Commodore Talks About His Hatred of Mike Babcock
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- Full episode here: • Mike Commodore Tells H... NHL defenseman Mike Commodore joined us for this weeks podcast! Commie talked to us about how much he hated Mike Babcock and a ton more!
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Nobody is laughing harder at Babs downfall than Commie is right now. And good for him.
You realize he’s the one who leaked that story to Biz right? That’s how it happened lol. Commie did this 😂
I think Mike Modano will want to have a laugh in it too.
@@chriz9959 100% - The laugh line is definitely long for this guy lol
Karma.😂.
Amen
The fact is the Red Wings, when Babcock was coach, had the best roster in the NHL. Had they had a coach who the players liked, they may have won 3-4 cups instead of just the one.
Facts
💯 as a pens fan that roster was a wagon! Hell probably would have beat us back to back.
@@xmohawkx985 probably the greatest roster assembled in the post salary cap era and they only have 1 cup to show for it. Given what we now know about Babcock, it’s pretty obvious.
Isnt it possible that Both are assholes? Thsi commodore seems like a real jerk too
I love the stories from players who are from The Middle or even players from the fringes. They are the best
Like the Chris KNUCKLES PODCAST Nilan
This is why I only listen to interviews of retired players. They give their honest opinion. Active players can't really say anything they actually think.
Dude was vindicated after being the only one with the courage enough to speak out against Babs for years lol
Chelios was the first actually after the Modano incident.
Got to know Commie in Vladivostok, where he arrived to play for a KHL team at twilight of his career. Absolutely hilarious dude, love him.
As an Aussie who fell in love with nhl during Covid lockdown and now can’t consume enough nhl content, subscribed to every pod like NK, Steve dangle, etc it’s amazing to me the unwritten lore around hockey. The usual teamsport stuff but the beyond expected stuff like the accountability, hockey being a family, the hockey-unique stuff around enforcing/fighting. That’s the positives. On the other side is the bizarre culture around refereeing and make-up calls, the league being a retirement village for the same old 50-odd faces, the incredulous idea that bowman or anyone else from the blackhawks could ever be in the league again, the witchcraft-like process of penalties/suspensions (cut a chicken open and go with what the entrails tell you), the darthlvader-like Bettman running this empire supporting moronic stuff like Arizona playing in a car park whilst Canadian markets are screaming for more. It shits me but I’m here for it. I love it. Thank you.
good summary
You've got the measure of it.
Walker is a legend here in Canada man 🇨🇦❤
Yes alot of tradition and lore and alot of batshit crazy stuff
Commodore was a great player in NCAA hockey at University of North Dakota, scored a key goal in the 2000 championship game against a loaded Boston College team that featured Brian Gionta, Brooks Orpik, and Mike Mottau. North Dakota won that game 4-2.
This is honestly one of the greatest sports stories I've ever heard.
Great but sad right?
@@ronthompson95 Really, really frustrating. I'm glad babcock is gone, people like him should never have any authority.
I was with some ex NHL players a few days before Babcock was fired from Toronto and they told me he was a huge reason we couldn’t get free agents to sign.
Way over rated
With the talent he had in Detroit he should have won at least another cup.
I'm sure Babs was the only reason lmfao. Not that the Leafs suck ass.
@@lockbars5456that’s debatable not necessarily
He tried to "rehab" on TV as a commentator, he looked in pain when trying to say some decently nice things. He destroyed Franzen psychologically in Detroit. Amazing he stuck around for so long.
There is nothing worse than a coach with an ego. You'll never reason with a person like that. Their way or the pine
One thing is worse. That's a hockey club with an effeminate name, getting welfare from the CBC, which is funded by taxpayers to the tune of a billion per year. And the six other teams get crumbs. Hell of a scam to make a faggot club rich.
@@rumplestiltskin7304 the Leaves by chance? 🤣
Nothing worse than a fringe player with a ego...
Ever heard of John torterella????????
That's what leaders do. Know your role. I mean it's ot like his methods had a track record of success or anything...
Commodore is the BEST interview you guys have ever had......
I had no idea that Babcock was so despised by so many players until that article came out a few years ago talking about the Mich Marner stuff in Toronto and how Nik Lidstrom hated Babcock's guts in Detroit. And right here you have Mike Commodore giving a first hand account of the shit he went through with Babcock.
I remember Commodore from his time in NJ. He was a big lad who just couldn't crack the still then outstanding world class NJ defensive corp.
Nice to see him have such a solid career.
I could listen to Commodore all day.
This is my first time hearing anything from your show, as this video was listed under my recommended videos. If this is how your show is going to be, I’m all in fellas. You let the dude talk, you injected your story at the perfect time. Great work guys. You just gained a future loyal listener.
Just need to fix the audio. Guys mic is toooooo loud and distorted.
Exactly the same here
The fact Babs isn’t back in the league, all the stories add up
Yep. Look what he did to Spezza and how he treated Marner in Toronto... I was so happy when the Leafs fired his ass ✅
@Colin M i forgot about that. that was so classless. what he did to Marner was scummy too. and the stuff Franzen dealt with in Detroit. the book is out on Babs. just a bad person
@@MySundin13 Your Handle is Funny because Sundin and Kaberle are the Worse Hockey Players that have ever been on the Ice. They Played European Ice Soccer and were never in the Place they were Supposed to be. Remember all the Power Plays when Sundin stood beside kaberle on the left Defense, that's not Your Zone Soccer player, and that's why Sudin and kaby were the First ever PP Team to be Score on Short Handed Twice in One Game and then again in the Next Game, Totally Ice soccer Players. Those 2 cud go 60 PP without a Point and they wud get a Raise, WTF.
@@MySundin13 The worst thing he ever did was to Mike Madano. That was literally incomprehensible. Mike Madano played 1499 games, cause Babcock sat him at the end of the season to not give him 1500 games. Madano, who was so well respected among the hockey world and fans, and he pulled that stunt on him.
@@bingboone9474 dude totally. Like what message are you sending as a coach other than you’re a piece of shit dick head.
Love that this guy was part of the group that exposed Babcock for what he was. Ask Mike Madano about him. Or Johan Franzen. Or examine his playoff record with Detroit. Poison.
I can not understand why Holland kept bringing him back. Not one big name free agent wanted to come and play for that scum bag
Can you give me their numbers so I can ask?
@@walkerholiday9631 how about Babcock healthy scratching Mike Madano on game 1,499 of his career. Just do a little reading into how he treated Franzen post concussions.
Or Mitch Marner.
Or Chris chelios
Lmao will never tire of hearing Mike Commodore talking smack about Babcock.
You gotta love a guy who speaks his mind. I’d love to hang out with Mike. His stories are absolutely incredible!
Not sure why you’d wanna have a drink with Babcock after hearing all that, but okay.
@@larrydanadavid2435well don't ever accuse your mother of being a gossip because you boys take the cake. What little wimps...
No wonder why we have to import hockey players from Eastern Europe - there are no men in North america. Just little boys playing with their phones... Staring at p***. And that's why hockey players don't want to turn their phones over to coaches!
Duh?
I vaguely rememeber his Red Wing tenure ending prematurely in 2011, and never bothered to learn why. Finally got closure.
Babcock had coached for the University of Lethbridge back in the early 90’s. I do recall meeting him but I was no hockey player, he went on to coach Spokane in the WHL. I do remember 96-97 season he had coached the World Junior Hockey Championship for Team Canada, one of the guys he first cut from the team was Byron Ritchie (knew this because I went to school with him). At that point I was under the impression that as good as a coach Babcock was, there was this side to him that would be his downfall. When you hear how Babcock got run out of Toronto, and the way it happened I totally understand that the core group of The Maple Leafs thought of him as a liability for the team. I’m glad he’ll never get to coach in the NHL again.
Won the national championship with UofL
@@adrianj8041 He did, 1994 in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens. I knew a player from that team.
You spoke too soon
@@joshuabrownell3993 Well not really... he's never gonna coach in the NHL again, as of today. Blacklisted permanently since being "let go" from Columbus today. Terrible person, so can't be a good coach.
Well, he had one last shot, and after this stint in Columbus he's truly never going to coach again.
You could seriously write an entire book about Mike Babcock and all that he's done with all that's been said about him over the years.
I bet this happens way more then we think. A coach in any sport can ruin the enjoyment, trust, and any player if they want. Sounds like Babcock was one of those grudge holders and a buzz kill. Great story - fun listen.
Its not even sport. Had countless bosses like this
@@scoldingwhisper never crossed it over but ya, a ton of bosses who were complete control freaks and power mongers…
Bingo. Had a baseball coach at age 14 - Dick Dow - most abusive coach I even came across in playing 10+ sports. Jobless egomaniac whose entire life was half-assedly "coaching" young boys, mainly based on whose corruptible parents he was close to. After years as a .350+ hitter batting cleanup, he'd go out of his way to read the batting averages before every game - all skewed on his BS propaganda.
I was hitting 9th and placed in RF, if allowed to play at all (despite solid at 1B, 2B & the hot corner playing against this sociopath for years). And I was the only dude on the roster who biked to the games (busy 7km each way), no drives from obsessed parents, who were at work, while an abusive coach would happily drive past with a sadistic grin in storms.
Meanwhile, as a freshman in high school the same year, was the only one to make the team, played 3rd base, batted early, even pitched! Amazing what happens when parents and politics are removed, the best actually are allowed to rise!
Bottom line, if you don't have at least one parent vouching for you in the 13-17 range, you don't have a hope in hell, as it's 99% politics. Sadly, with all the qouta BS, it's even worse today, I feel for the star kids today without parents to help their cause.
Commie is f*cking hilarious!
Babsocks never lost as clb headcoach!!what a legend!
Commie is a beauty! I could listen to him all day
The Alex Steen story had me cackling 10:15
I'm desperately looking for a clip that shift but can't find it in myself to pay a subscription to find it!
10:15
@@SpiritMatthiasyeah it would be hard to find I'd like to see it too lol.
@@SpiritMatthiasdid some research. The game was Nov 15 2011 vs st.loius
Yea I'm on top of that but I can't find the whole game anywhere. All I want to do is fast forward to watching Commie falling twice and then rx'ing a DoG penalty lol@@bingbong586
Talk to Chelios, Modano, Franzen about Babcock. The Red Wings despised this guy
Red Wing Nation hates Babcock.
Grew up watching Commodore play college in North Dakota. Still one of my faves from those years,
I liked commodore with Lidstrom. Babcock was wasting his time worrying about who he paired with Lidstrom
I was signed by a Junior team and the coach hated me (for many reasons.)
I never thought about it till now
I love Mike Commodore! He is a legend!
Hurricanes will always love him. One of my favorite Canes ever.
He's a bum. 1 full season in his 11 year career.
@@therantwithgrant4271 how many full seasons did you have?
@@islowthingsdown STUPID comment
@@therantwithgrant4271 better yet, how many cups do you have?
@joshua3630 you're a loser just like him.
Anybody who disagrees with Biz’s report needs to watch this video
I love this dude ...hes a legend
I don’t miss Babcock one bit but I do miss Mike Commodore’s old haircut.
The part I don’t understand is what the GM is thinking? He knows full well the animosity there, and he would have a pretty good idea that Mike wasn’t getting a chance. You would think he would be coming down hard on Babcock to not put his own agenda ahead of the team.
What a great storyteller and a very genuine guy.
I remember Datsyuk and Zetterberg couldn’t stand him either. Reason why the Wings let him go.
As a fan, we always wondered why Commodore was not playing.
I just checked hockey reference for the game log in St. Louis, Commie's story checks out! Hilarious
if Mike Commodore's bodyfat percentage was an issue for Babcock, I wonder how he would have dealt with Phil Kessel
Oh man came back to watch this video again and the timing is perfect lol
Put Commi back on after the latest Babcock BS
What a legendary storyteller
Had me laughing all the way
When I was about 13, Mike Commodore's Dad, Wayne, was playing A ball on a local team here in Edmonton. He could throw the ball from right field right to the plate. This was in the early 70's.
Took abit of research but i tried finding the game with the steen play. 11/15/2011 @ 15 :46 in the 3rd period Mike Commodore gets a delay of game for puck over glass lol. . Id like to find a clip of the play though.
Mike Commodore speaks perfect Canadian hockey player english.
Fluently lol
That 2003 finals was peak NHL.
Leafs fan here....I loved it when we fired his ass!!! Guy was the creepiest coach the Buds ever had. Treated players like trash
Creepiest coach but he’s no Harold Ballard
He was almost as creepy as 99% of leafs fans🤡
@@walkerholiday9631 Anytime you want to say that to our faces fdabg.
@@walkerholiday9631
😂😂😂😂😂
Best guy you had was Pat Burns
Why Mike didn't play with 64 as his number has always bothered me. I would have bought a Flames jersey with his name on it.
Miss him at Carolina…the robe and the red fro. Classic.
Commodore is awesome. Great story teller.
Commodore should be on everyones podcast. He is the most entertaining speaker. I love him. Great stories. Go "Commi"
Maybe it's the two or three scotch glasses I have under the nose right now that's talking, but MAN was that a good segment if I ever saw one!! For the record this is my very first time seeing the Nasty Knuckles Podcast, I might well be back just for that!!
In September 2023 Babcock continues to make Commie’s statements age better and better.
How difficult could it have been for Columbus management to search CZcams and watch videos like this?
11:33...."Now I have the fuckin' puck, which is the last thing I want".
🤣🤣🤣
He’s hilarious
It's telling that no one has re hired Babs and not one player in the league has backed him...
He’s back lmao
And about to be gone again.
You can only trust a coach to do what he thinks is best for him, or at least for his team. So, guys on the bubble, guys who fill those last few spots, have to be looking over their shoulders every day. Older guys have an even harder time because the young guys need ice time to develop. It's a sad story that many, even most, players end their careers with a bitter experience. But in the end, they got to play in the best league in the world. Many others fell before even getting the chance, because the same thing happens in junior.
Holy shit….. Mikie Commodore could take a spin on the Just For Laugh tour… most pro hockey players are funny guys. But he’s a bit of a step above…
As a Detroit Red wings fan, I'm glad we have Coach Derek now
I laughed so hard.. Commodore is the best. I remember when he played for the Ducks. Great pod..
All of Commie’s interviews about Babs have aged like a fine wine.
Somebody needs to make an animation of this Commie vs Babs story.
One day in Anaheim, the coach didn’t come to a peewee game so the parents asked one of the parents to stand on the bench to coach and that happened to be Babcock. The ref asked him for his youth hockey USA coaching ID which he failed to produce obviously and the game was forfeited.
Lol is this real
Great clip guys. It’s called narcissism and glad more narcissists like Babcock are being exposed and dealt with. Nice work.
You are boy gossips. Jealous of accomplished athletes and coaches doing things of which you could never imagine. You have no idea. You're nothing but wannabe jock gossips.
Absolutely no respect. No idea what you're talking about - nobody had to stay on his team's nor accept those awards
And you've made your conclusions from a henhouse full of boys?
And the whole story started with looking at photos on a phone? If you've ever hung around real hockey players, you'd know what they're hiding on their phones.
The same thing you stare at on yours!
You'd think a pervert could identify the other perverts.
That's why they didn't want to show Babcock their phones, they got porn all over- duh? They're wannabe hockey players ! They can't score goals, so that's how they have to get their excitement
Drive across the Canadian border with your phones and devices, cuz Canadian border takes them,goes through them all they want. There are no privacy rights in Canada - that's the culture under which Babcock lives.
It's very different living in Canada - have you left your Mama's basement?
Read the fine print of the player safety committees job description - it's to monitor players behavior both on and off ice.
George Parros is allowed to demand their cell phones anytime he wants? But a coach can't? And the players safety committee doesn't have to ask permission or tell us anything. When anyone squeaks about the player safety committee, they get fined
Boy gossips took down a triple gold coach - how proud!
🙄
But I bet you're proud of this guy's language -can't get three words without cursing. And that's okay? That's appropriate?
He doesn't deserve any respect nor credibility. He talks like a 12-year-old trying out curse words for the first time in front of his cool new friends.
What a classless bunch of boys.
What happens in the locker room stays in the locker room.
That rule applies only at players' convenience?
I hope Babcock writes a book and spills all the dirt on these little out of control, pill popping, alcoholic perverts he's coached all these decades
For what it’s worth if Babcock had it out for him he gave Babs a lot of ammunition with that first start with the Wings he described 😂
And thankfully Babcock is not back in the league. Hopefully never back.
Dude was a great coach though, one cant deny that.
@@torrey88 I’m pretty sure the kids on the shirt bus coulda coached those Red Wings teams to cups. Those were fucking all star teams.
Yes Toronto fired him because his team didn't like him. Now they have a coach that they like and look how well they're doing....... 😂.
@@DizzyDez613 those red wings teams weren’t that stacked. Plus Dave Lewis couldn’t lead them to success
@@davidkruse4030 you’re out of your mind. Not even trying to be bias as a Wings fan.
commodore is a beauty
He a great very funny individual, great story
It’s tough when you get 30 second shift a period to make an impact. Been there (in HS not the NHL lol)
Just be better. That’s 30 more than 0.
@Lazy Hack if you weren't a lazy hack, you'd have gotten more playing time. :)
Trust me no coach is giving you a 30 seconds shift unless you’re absolutely brutal. Get better to a point where you can make an impact.
@@walkerholiday9631 lol shut up.
great, fun interview !
I traded for Commodore at the trade deadline in NHL 04 to the Rangers. The Rangers had a ton of defensemen injuries. I put Commie in and he repeatedly shit the bed. We got knocked out of the 2nd round by the Islanders. I still haven't lived that shame down. Anaheim was trying to trade Carney to me but declined because of the contract. I should have taken that deal.
Huh
@@tom..193 if you don't know, you don't know. Don't bother asking
Didn't care to know. Just can't comprehend why someone would post such a gay irrelevant comment😂😂😂
@@tom..193 it's only irrelevant to you.
literally nobody likes or cared about your comment other than yourself. you're a loser dude
Mike Commodore is a riot , totally so funny ! Nice to see Riley Cote one of my favorite players . Bob M .
Haha remember him the most in Calgary. Wasn’t my favourite person in the NHL at the time (look who I cheer for) but always got a kick out of him. I always thought he was a decent player and who could not envy his hair?!
Truth be told, I don’t really much of him in Detroit. I knew he was there, but he got a criminal lack of ice time while he was there that I’m sure Red Wigs fans sometimes forgot he was there.
Babcock truly is a real piece of work. I’m almost ashamed to say that he’s from the same province as I am.
What a great run with the robe and all the Ronald mcdonald wigs in raleigh during our cup run.
Commie was one of my favs during that era .
@@rosariocannistraro3561 for me as well but a special team with 11, 12,13,14,17,26,and 2.......i rock my #13 home red 10 year anniversary sweater still
Great Stories. Made Me Laugh.
Hilarious! As a Wings fan I was excited when he signed. I always got a kick out of him wearing 64.
As a red wings fan I can’t believe he won one with him after everything I’ve heard!
Part 2 - Mike Commodore talks about his hatred of Mike Commodore
Detroit players hated him. F that guy.
lol at around 12 min he described one of the worst hockey shifts of all time
I liked commodore as a defenseman. As an islanders fan I would’ve loved to have him on the team
Man, I remember as a kid, being a huge red wings fan, Commodore said something publicly trashing Babcock while he played for Columbus.
Thought it was crazy hearing an NHLer talk about a sitting head coach like that while he was playing for a completely different team. I mean, stuff like that just didn't get published so I felt he just really have meant it.
It was only a year or two later he ends up signing with us and I was so confused why the hell he would ever play for Babcock again.
But during the off-season, it seemed like the biggest buzz was whether he'd wear #64 or not, and all the drama seemed to be gone. But as soon as the season started, you could see how he was (or wasn't) getting utilized and I felt sooo bad for him because it was obvious Babcock still had it in for him.
I was young and still thought Babcock was a great coach, but I always wondered what happened behind the scenes.
#fuckbabs
Mike Commodore is a warrior! I remember when he was with Carolina and they won the cup. My poor Sabres lost 4 starting defensemen and Tim Connolly and we still went to game 7 against them but they had those experienced guys.
Man, those were some funny stories. Did Mike say if they scored on the delay of game penalty??
He should have known it was BS when Babs told we need a right hand shot to play with Nik. Going from, I might get a call in August to we need someone to take shifts with Nik Lidstrom on the first day of FA is too good to be true. He should have listened to his gut, if it sounds to good to be true, to probably is.
I was researching NHL mental health today and saw interviews with Babcock about his mental health, then I found this podcast. Now I see why NHL players struggle with mental health.
Looked up on hockey reference, the game in St.Louis Commie was talking about was November 15th, 2011. Played a total of 6:40 that night..
I HAVE to see that last shift he talked about. 😂😅🤣 What a COMPLETE train wreck of a shift! 😂 Topped off by the delay of game!
Unfortunately that had to be such vindication for Babcock. Babs was probably laughin' his ass off at Commies ultimate fail. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️😅
I love stories like this.. Even though it involved Comms getting his ass handed to him (I always liked him except when he was in Calgary.. lol)
I am in Vancouver. 'Commie' was a rough hard hitting hard working D man
I love when guys just tell it how it is swearing and everything !
Great clip but geez guys. The host on the lefts mic is peaking like crazy and blowing up my speakers.
what is with the topknot...is that guy a samurai
better mics would help you guys so much, really good content oherwise
i've had one or two asshole coaches in my career. we had one who was a bit like babcock. we made a deal with the whole team to kick him out. that was in the junior team. so we pissed in his skates, or tied them in knots, or loosened the rivets, shot him here and there in the shins, or on the blades, until he complained and then the management always came to watch practice :))). at some point he was gone, thank god. i don't know why the teams don't do it that way.
House league antics don't count.
Great interview....but please watch your audio levels. Any noises you make boom over MC.
Holy christ can SOMEONE find a clip of this horrendous shift that Commodore told the story about? Nov 15 2011!
I always like.commodore one off my favorite player on the flames
I know a few players who had very bad experiences with the arrogant and narcissist Babcock. "God complex" may have been created from this guy. These types of people are sickening.