Sony A6600 VS Panasonic GH5 | Is Autofocus REALLY Worth it?!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Today we're comparing the Sony A6600 and the Panasonic GH5. These are two of my favorite camera brands of all time with two of their best cameras ever made.
But both have very different approaches to video specifications and different ways to make the cameras easier to use.
Which comes out on top?
Lets find out!
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These two cameras need to have a baby
I had a sony 6300 and than I changed for gh5. Oh man, its a different world. So much better!
Auto focus is a problem, but you can handle. Sony has advantage in iso, but the possibilities that you have in gh5, specially in 4k 10bits, makes the difference.
Great comparison- it’s amazing how long camera sensors go without much upgrades over years- I guess being used to new smart phone or cpu tech every year spoiled us!
Great cameras, both of them
They are both absolutely fantastic 🤯
Just found from another video: the A6600 body is
$918 for the A6600 on B@H with their EDU discount, *if* you're a student. The offer expires tomorrow, 2/2/2020. Unfortunately I'm about 30 years too late.
Panasonic camera camera from early 2017 versus Sony camera from late 2019 and Sony still has not caught up on video specs...
@ant billionz in a specific instance for low light shooting of course the bigger sensor helps. While budgeting constraints is a legit answer, why otherwise use an aps-c camera when you can go full frame for not much more at that point with either the A7iii or EOS R which will be significantly better for low light while still having the same great auto focus? End of the day of course, it is great you find a better camera for your specific need and it has helped you improve your work.
@ant billionz, we are currently looking to upgrade our old HC-V770 camcorder and, with a budget of~£1000, GH5, Sony A6500 or SonyA73 seem to be the main contenders. They GH5 and A6500 are both around £850, while A73 is £1200, so a big price difference.
The main use of the camera would be creating promo clips for a music business, band/vocalist performances at bars and other venues (often with poor lighting), an occasional music video and also family/hobby cinematography.
From what I gather, GH5 has way better stabilisaton and can film continuously longer without overheating, which are big benefits for videography?
ant billionz Hey, I have the A6500 with the 35mm os and the stabilization is terrible :/ The handheld footage is so bad. Do you use tripods or gimbals all the time? ✌️
@Kay I own 2 A7R3 and recently bought a GH5. In terms of videography the GH5 significantly outperforms Sony... It took me a few weeks to figure the correct settings for autofocus and now it can compete with Sony's. But half of the time I use manual focus to get the sweet spot.
I don't know what you are talking about regarding dynamic range. But in post processing I can grade my GH5 footage however I like and colors stay clear. With the a7r3 I got issues when grading too much. 4:2:2 in 4k is simply superior. And I don't know why the 4k 60fps stays unmentioned. It is such convenient having this ability. After all I am delivering 4k more often and with a Sony a7r3 or a7iii I can not do that because it has just 4k 30fps.
And all other aspects: IBIS, flip screen, more user friendly, better app...
After all I am waiting for the A7S4 but sony community as well as I have enough of their annoying delays. I would throw an eye on the Canon R5 which is better than Panasonic S1 and could be the next beast in videography (depending on its costs...).
@@donnik7064 They just won't understand. Full sensor 4k 60 fps, ability to even do 5K video, anamorphic support, 10 bit video for the grading experience... This is all is not worth giving up for autofocus. it's just not.
Both amazing cameras, it's stabilization/4K60 (GH5) vs. autofocus/lowlight (A6600).
Also for $200-300 less, G9 (which is 80% GH5 in terms of video specs) and the A6400 (A6600 minus IBIS which isn't that great) could be another option if you're a nonprofessional?
I love my GH5 if Panasonic could bring in a new focusing system that is as good as Sony's with the GH6 ill be one happy Ozzie.
I would pay a boat load of money for that 😭
I would pay a boat load of money for that 😭
@@TheEverydayDad More than the S1H price ?
I would pick the gh5 slightly smaller sensor but umm stabilization is a slaughter!
I just bought the a6600 and it's my favorite.
Great vid! Just bought the A6600, so am very curious on the capabilities in my own hands. Well am still a rook in this world, but looking forward in learning all about it. Your video's help, thanks. (BTW, nice sizing sticker on your T-shirt ;))
Yeah I literally just noticed that sticker 😅 that’s what happen when I wanted new shirts for the channel 🤣
I came into this video feeling torn between these two cameras. I came out of this video in two pieces.
Or you can buy full frame lenses for the a6600 and use them to their full capabilities on a full-frame Sony. I think you missed the strength of low-light capabilities of the a6600 over the GH5.
the summary is Gh5 for videography but 6600 for vloggers..
Yes while your content tends toward not needing the autofocus. What would you actually take on a trip with the family? Does the 4K require an extra expense on the computer and memory card side that you wouldn’t have with a just recording in 1080p and framing all your shots properly?
Hey Dad, we miss you over here in camera land. But even though you went over to the dark side, your camera reviews are still watched and appreciated. I just ordered the GH5 M2, so there are still people who value the GH5, even after the launch of the GH6. I have Sony cameras in addition to MFT, but they frustrate me as I love the video features in Panasonic. I currently have the G9 and it will become the stills powerhouse it is designed to be and the GH5 M2 will take over video production. Looking forward to the extra GH5 video goodies that you have been enjoying for a few years now.
Thanks for this excellent comparison video.
Gary, would have never noticed the sticker if you hadn't mentioned it on the Twitter lol. Great shirt though!
Ha! Hopefully most people don’t notice it 🤣
The Everyday Dad it’s charming and relatable.
Like the 6600 and GH5 ;)
Love the videos as always. (GH5 novice here) I noticed that sticker on your super man T!
I am a Canon shooter looking to upgrade my camera for video purposes. For the past 3 weeks I rented the GH5s. I LOVE this camera! It really is amazing. I shot for 8 hours (off and on/small clips) and the battery NEVER DIED!! However, the lack of autofocus is enough for me to pass. It was the most infuriating thing to deal with during a shoot, especially when hooked up to a small rig or a gimbal. IMO there is not a perfect "1 size fits all camera" for both video and stills. I am getting my hands on a R5 in 2 weeks, the overheating should not affect how I shoot, but it is a concern. I also tried the EOS R and I wasn't a fan. Aside from the R5, I am going to give Sony a shot. Sorry Panasonic, your AF is TERRIBLE!!
Hi Scott, would you mind shooting a quick update here once you try the Sony as well? I'm assuming you are going to try the a6400 or a6600?
I would love getting another comparison, especially from someone who likes their auto focus good and running at all times. I have heard people saying they manage to get around that GH5 focus issue and make it good enough to compete with the Sony's, but honestly, I don't know if I want to do that manually all the time. I'm also a big time newbie btw and just looking to get my first camera(and have an easier learning curve).
I also always hear people praising the Canon EOS R. Why did you not like it?
@@DeanArviv The first few times you do manual focusing, it will be very stressful and difficult, but it gets better over time. If you need to shoot unscripted moving people (weddings, events), autofocus might be better, but I would still trust manual focus more. Never know when the focus might jump to another person. Even if it's a 1% chance of failure, it could be a hit to your business if a bride makes a huge issue cos you lost the shot.
If you need to do sports videos, manual focus only because no AF system can keep up with both sports movement and camera movement at the same time. EOS R is a huge fail because of the 1.7x crop in 4k. There is also no upgrade path because the R5 and R6 both overheat. So you're locked into a dead RF mount system, unless you buy their cinema cameras which cost like $5500 for the cheapest RF C70.
Most importantly, for any kind of videography job, buy a monitor. Andycine A6 Plus is a good one. Feelworld F6 Plus is the exact same, just different branding. You can always start with higher apertures like f/5.6 or f/4, and slowly work down as you get more confident. In some situations you don't even need f/2.8.
For easier learning curve and future-proofing, I would honestly still suggest the a6600 or a6400. Autofocus is still a great help, and it's better to have it. Just keep in mind Sony's codecs are horrible. Like utter crap. So make sure you white balance properly, and don't bother shooting in log.
Sony’s 4K rolling shutter is a deal breaker TBH And the IBIS on Sony isn’t really IBIS for video it’s more for photos in real world use.
I ordered my a6600, thanks for link bought from BHP for $918 thanks to that student discount, total came out to $1,005. Always wanted a sony a6000 series camera. So I'm glad I got this deal. Very excited to shoot with. I want to shoot video of cars and a bit of photography. Did my research and I considering to get the Sigma 16mm 1.4. But what do you guys think. Let me know. Thanks for the video without it I wouldn't of got the camera, thanks dad !
is the deal over already for students?
simpl3lang yeah it was over in Feb 2nd
@@ChvoLoco2 nvrmmd i found it. Its still there
simpl3lang Nice dude. Yeah mine arrives tomorrow I’m hyped
@@ChvoLoco2 How do you like it?
Keep them both as they compliment each other so well.
I'm so excited tom start saving up for a gh5 soon. A beautiful camera for sure.
I hate to say it I was kind of trying to root for the G5 but then I'm really thinking about this if you have amazing auto focus why do you need the flip out screen. . . You still have the option for the flip out screen but you will need to add extra stuff when using microphone on top man this is a hard for me !
👍 Great video but couldn't stop staring at your tag on your Superman Tshirt lol 😂🤣 Tfs though! 😉👍
Btw love your personality ❤
Hi everyday Dad, p[lease can you compare the Sony imaging app to the Panasonic image app on iOS. I've got the Panasonic but I'm clueless on how the Sony iOS app works.
Sony imaging app looks and feels outdated. It does not have almost no features that panasonic one has. Basically you can import files and thats it. You select files transfer on the camera! Not in the app! In 2020!
I say it is time for a GH6. just put PDAF in it and you have the "PERFECT CAMERA"!
I would pay so much money for that 🤯
Captain JC Rage if the GH6 has PDAF I would switch back to Panasonic no questions asked! They could change nothing besides that and it would hands down be the best camera on the market.
@@TheEverydayDad I know right?!!!!! I bought the GH5 and sold it because with what I do I need the PDAF. currently using EOS R for vlogging. it has all the advantages of the GH5 plus the PDAF and the 1.7 crop on 4k is still less than the 2x crop factor of the M43 system so no issue there.
🎵🎶"All I want is the perfect camera"....
@@PaulFeinberg I think we are all waiting for that. The GH5 is the perfect camera that was slightly flicked by the Canon crippled hammer. PANASONIC just put PDAF in it will you!!!!
"The everyday dude" fits the way better as a title for the channel 😎
Let me explain: I've already has a dad. I try to avoid any brands with parents in their names, since it does look like a trying to dominate for me. I'm non your dog or a kid, right?😅
Therefore, the sentence "You can figure it out with of without me. Let get some fun" might to fit as a slogan of the channel either.
It's my opinion, I'm not insist it's right. The over people could confirm my words. What I can see right now: the good content and a few views. It could be fixed
Gh5! Slighter smaller sensor but a beast with stabilization and the option to shoot 6k 🤷🏻♂️
Haha great minds think alike. I'm pretty invested into Panny stuff for video but been wanting a Sony for continuous autofocus so I can film clients walking past stuff and telling us how excited they are about this new project and so forth. : ) Currently experiencing a brief window of solvency so for once I can opt not to cheap out and work around everything. I like EOS-Ms too and they've jumped into dual pixel so I'm not entirely committed to Sony (suggestions on this welcome) but yeah, it's like you've got one near-perfect system and then the other to play shortstop for that one missing capability and you're golden. Nice vid, good information and judgments without a lot of filler, bravo.
ETA I have to say THANK YOU for even a quick evaluation of the audio pre-amps in these bodies. I'm a one-man band and if I can get decent audio with single system that's huge to me. It's amazing how variably noisy or quiet pre-amps can be within one camera family and you have to test them to know.
Thanks! Very good and honest video!!
hey man! @ 8:10 you showed footage of the a6600...which lens were you using??
No mention of sensor size and low light abilities?
the a6600 wipes the floor with many other cameras with their low light ability
Chase the Summit all pros on youtube say you shoul NEVER go above 6400 with the sony. I also saw a low light comparison son a6400 vs panasonic g9 (same sensors) and the result was that the sony is NOT much netter in low light it is noticable but not much. Another pro photographer on youtube said if he needds iso 5000 with a aony he would need 600+ with a mft sensor . So i guess your 300% better talk is crap. Even on a full frame sensor no one recommends going up to 12000 iso if you want your noise level low
@@castielvargastv7931 you need real world experience , which it appears you have little of
Charles Boston more experience is always a good thing. I film and shoot music festivals and i am perfectly fine with the results i got from my gh5
Gary, are you doing the review of GH6?
How's the stabilization with the 6600 for Vlogging? If you would to have to go for one lense, which one would you chose?
the Sony's low light is way better! great video!
I've always heard that micro four thirds sensors are inferior to APS-C? thanks
It's so haaaaaard. I want the high bitrate, great colour, tap to focus and stability of the gh5 but I also want the continuous eye af.
I do music videos so both versions of focus are extremely important
The gh5 show grain in low light the a6600 is clear as day even when it’s super dark . I filmed a music video at night with only the city light and I got crystals clear footage. I couldn’t hardly see with my own eyes but when I looked on the lcd I seen the images well lit .
@@boomboombaby9140 What lens were you using?
@@DennisMeetsWorld sigma 16 mm 1.4 and 30 mm 1.4 .
@@boomboombaby9140 those sigma lenses are available for GH5 also though...
I've been looking to upgrade my panasonic g7 and g85 for a while. I'm sill trying to decide between the gh5 and a6600. The auto focus is leaning me towards sony for my gimbal shots at cosplay conventions. Damn maybe I need both!
I say wait a bit until GH6 rumors are cleared up with an announcement haha. Supposedly the GH6 is coming this year with a killer AF system.
@@crisvega7588 and nothing happened with GH6 😂
@@AkrilFarb lmao, I wasn't as wise 2 years ago.
🤣🤣🤣
@@crisvega7588 it's just a joke 😂 I'm understand that everyone expecting something else from GH6
@@AkrilFarb 😂😂😂
I miss comparable photos and videos taken with them!
I am new to photograph and have spent the last week trying to find the ideal camera for me, initial looking at the Nikon D5600 but this is not capable of 4k videos.
I will be mainly for pictures but will be nice to have 4k, i am planning on buying a mavic mini and gopro 7 black in a couple of months to give video making a go, would like to get some milky way shots.
Any suggestions for under $1000 that will still be relevant in a year or two years and minimum 20MP?
A6400, x-t30 and for some reason i am interested in the nikon D5600.
lee macdonald lumix g9 👍🏼
Came for the sticker. Stayed for the video.
May the sticker live in infamy 🤣
you don't have to buy crop sensor e mount glass , full frame glass works very well .
Downside is that it's more expensive, bigger, heavier, and typically slower aperatures compared to APS-C versions like the Sigma 16mm f1.4.
Never never never use the official Panasonic v log L to Rec 709 Lut as its designed for true V LOG from its cinema cameras and not the GH4/5/S/G9 V LOG L. From my own testing the best fit and forget solution is ground controls free v log to 709 Lut. Trust me it's so much better.
Does the GH5 have "unlimited" (13 hr) video duration? The A6600 does. That's one of the reasons I'm getting it. Plus, I already have a Sony A7 RII.
I used to be a Panasonic fan boy but they have made it clear that they don't care about reliable autofocus which has me looking at the new canon cameras.
Nice you were neutral in your opinion. Yes both are great cameras :)
Another fun video! I gave you a shout-out in my GoPro video too by the way. Thanks for all you do :-)
Is the size sticker still on your Superman shirt? I am almost positive i see it:). It is on the right side of the screen and on YOUR LEFT side, right next to the Superman:)
LOL..... Yes, you do still have your shirt size sticker on. Nice comparison. I think my wife would kill me if I bought a new camera and gave her my M50 as a hand me down. :)
About to make that purchase in 2021, GH5 got the win for me here so is it still worth it in 2021?
The Sony is the answer just because of the system, micro four thirds is dead it's very unlikely that any camera beyond a Lumix gh6 comes out (if that camera comes out) and that's the end of the system, while Sony and the E mount are here to stay
Andres Carrasco such a dumb comment. Mft is alive and well.
@@castielvargastv7931 really? How many Lumix cameras came out last year and how many lens?
Andres Carrasco how many lenses you need? Everything you need is already there. The newest one was the 10-25 1.7 and it is great. From superwide 7mm to to 300mm what else do you need?
Which camera is best in terms of ibis and AF both.
Dose the parrot teleprompter works with the sigma 16 ? Or you need to crop
Which would you recommend for landscape/nature videography where the operator has the camera in-hand i.e. can touch-set the focus point?
Gh5
If Panasonic would have good autofocus I wouldn't have two camera systems, or Sony would have 10bit with good ibis 😭
so i thought your daily driver was the GH5. How do you work around the autofocus when you use it? Manual Focus?
In vlogging situations gh5 af is not bad. I also use ththe app and the tap to focus feature a lot
As you know sony a 6600 problem whit shutter speed and buffer ...have you
any idea could be possible to fix this whit some update software?
NICE VDO THANKS !! ;)
What would you go for I’d someone want to shoot full hd only?
The Sony a6600 loses autofocus in 4k video?
Can i know what microphone you use in this videos?
Thanks, but at those prices, might as well go BlackMagic 4k.
Why
Great Vid
Thanks!
Why is the size tag still on ur tshirt 😜😜🤩
I want to buy a camera which one should i go for ?
Hello ...may I know which camera did you use to film this...?
How about the ibis of gh5...
Sony A6600 VS Panasonic GH5 | Is Autofocus REALLY Worth it? Yep. great AF is litteraly worth it weight in gold. Especialy when used in conjunction with the toggle MF/AF button. With a little practice you can get great results. HOWEVER in darker conditions you need to manual focus. I've not used an Auto Focus in any camera 'yet' that can focus 'reliably' in low light.
And speeking of low light, I'm sure the Sony does better in one other small but crucial area ... hummmm ... what could that be? 🤷♀️
Well what is it?
i want review about sony RX1R ii
To this cameras compare olimpus em1 mark iii. U will be shocked. And Sound 🔊 quality is even better with this body
Anyone notice the sticker on the shirt? Lol
What about low light video capabilities? I believe the bigger sensor on the A6600 would be better at low light video? Can you confirm or deny that estimation?
It doesn't differ by much. The dynamic range difference between APS-C and M43 is usually between half to 1 stop.
It is better yes. But not a game changer. If you need low light, just go full frame, don't even waste money on APS-C/M43.
Is leica 12-60mm f2.8-4 good for GH5?
I know it video is old now, but this is problem w e mouth ... it has to big lenses to APS-C system... Look of size fuji lenses. m4/3 has half of size of sony lenses and weight. It will only important if you have FF body, if not is more a problem than a solution.
To be honest... I could go for the Sony just because big the size... I wish Panasonic could make their cameras smaller and lighter
Isn't Vlog-L a paid upgrade on the GH5?
Yes
Coney Island changed alott..
try comparing with Fuji XT3
Better comparison would be between the X-T3 and the GH5... GH5 came out swinging for the fences all the way back in 2017! ... X-T3 came to the party in 2018...
nice
I would take Panasonic GH5S. because it got better sensor. I really don't care about autofocus or stabilization
Why 30fps instead if 24?
It’s me being stubborn 👍
Hi and thanks for this video. One question please. If you need to buy only 1 camera for doing sport videos (Bike), which would u prefer? THx
For any kind of sports/action, hands down only Sony. There exists no other camera system with a powerful enough autofocus for sports videography.
Canon is good, but overheats, so there's no reliable upgrade path, unless you buy their cinema cameras.
Nikon is behind the both of them. Probably good enough for photos, but videos I'm not sure about video.
Panasonic. Don't even think about it, unless you have mastered manual focusing.
@@professionalpotato4764 Thanks for your help. Then The Panasonic gh5 is good for vídeo but only for manual focus?
Then, if you was in my pants u buy a Sony. Then A6600 or A7 ii? What objetives?
I have low $$
@@professionalpotato4764 Thx for ur help. Ah! I am starting ay this. And I record myself.
@@deabrv You're welcome. GH5 is a purely manual focus camera when it comes to video. No matter how much Panasonic tries to improve it, the nature and design of the algorithm means it will never be as good as Sony/Canon/Nikon which all use Phase detect in some way.
Get the a6600. Sony's autofocus is only good after the a7iii was released (2018). So only the a7iii, a6400, and a6600 (under $2000) are reliable enough imo. Also, a6400/6600 has the latest autofocus tech which is actually better than the a7iii because it's the same one used in the a7r4 and a9ii, both of which are pro level cameras.
Older models like a7ii use contrast detect autofocus which is same as GH5 and is really bad.
If budget is your main concern, the a6400 is a good consideration. You don't get eye tracking in video, but the face tracking is good enough. Battery life is weak, but the 3rd party NPW50 batteries are cheap. You'll need about 6 for a full day of shooting.
To be honest, a6600 is getting close to full frame pricing. A7C is $1800, a6600 is $1400. I would rather pick the a6400 which is $900 personally, and slowly invest in full frame E-mount lenses. Maybe in 1-2 years upgrade to full frame.
@@professionalpotato4764 mmm... (talk spanish?) 🤔 So then... a6600 is The choice,no? Is it good option? U think that it’s good choice for begginers?
A6600 and E-mount Lena es? A6600 is light enough for ride with it on mountain bike and Road? What Lens should I choose? 😄😄
Great video. Lol at "cameradom" 😄
hi i live in france and just bought gh5 i want to knoy if the 179d is stil actual or we can use angle shutter at 180? best regards
If you have the firmware above 2.0, dont care for this
@@slm3501 i have the last firmware but i think mf is the best lool to random ta af
@@ShinTenshi I have force me to use mf because its bring much more control the situation, i use af in few cases only, when the subject is moving slowly or stay freeze and near
I would rather stablisation over AF - nothing worse than shaky footage - out of focus you can live with
I believe it's otherwise of what you wrote. If it's shaky you can stabilize on post, but if it's out of focus you're screwed
@@RaoBlackWellizedArman or just learn how to manually focus...
@@andrescarrasco1248 You are both half wrong. Out of focus - screwed, too shakey - try to stabilize it, fail, and have it look blurry as if it's out of focus anyways.
You just have to be a smart videographer using any of them. It won't do miracles.
I think most everyday dad's are at least an "L."
No camera on the market in this price segment has been able to catch up GH5 capabilities in the last 5 years... Not even close...
how about a6600 v fuji xt3?
I would rather see GH5 vs X-T3... both released in 2017 and 2018 cameras have features in photo, video, and hardware that eclipse Sony's APS-C line.
So looks like The Everyday Dad takes a size M T-shirt if anyone wants to send him any gear..
I use a6500 wish I would have gone for the 6400
Why?
Cool vid
Thanks!
Panasonic gh5 and G9 are the best for the money. I'm not an AF guy, strictly manual so I could care less for sony
a7c vs a6600 vs gh5
Sweet vid, I'm so tempted to buy the GH5, need more info on that auto focus though.
How would it be for recording 4k 60fps for stock video?
GH5 produces stunning images. However the autofocus is unuseable. It WILL ruin your footage. Consider the GH5 a manual focus camera for any serious work. 4K 60P looks amazing for stock video.
@Kay a beginner should not get this camera indeed. but for most types of shots where you are not talking into the camera and the camera is moving autofocus will also ruin most of your shots
T shirt size stickers
A6600 seems shaky in video mode!
Sony stabilization is the worst, almost nonexistent
... said it before, the Sony wins because with pancake lens it will easily fit in my cargo pants’ pocket. I can go on vacation and not lug my 50lb canon kit.
You could get a similar sized MFT kit, but I do agree that package kit lens is awesome 👍
The Everyday Dad true! ...But the problem (a great camera through) is the ‘prism’ on the Gh5 that makes the cargo pocket a no go and when I am in Hawaii or even strolling along in Florence I don’t want a shoulder strap bogging me down when I can get too notch video and stills from my pocket!
@@graphguy I think he meant smaller MFT cameras: GX9, GX85, those cute Olympus PEN things.
The low light performance, the Sony a6600 is better .
The a6500 and the a6600 literally have the exact same video performance lol
The screen design of sony 👎, for me that's the only reason why not.
First!!!
Wow paul with the lightning comment 🤯🤣
The Everyday Dad boom! Just like the GH5 and the A6600 it’s a banger!